Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Nosleep

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General user info Username: Nosleep User groups: rollbacker First edit: May 07, 2007 10:36:57 Unique articles edited: 1,557 Average edits per page: 4.09 Total edits (including deleted): 6,371 Deleted edits: 316 Live edits: 6,055 Namespace totals Article	4185	69.12% Talk	513	8.47% User	230	3.80% User talk	345	5.70% Wikipedia	306	5.05% Wikipedia talk	207	3.42% File	20	0.33% Template	211	3.48% Template talk	17	0.28% Category	12	0.20% Portal	7	0.12% Graph Month counts 2007/05	122	2007/06	94	2007/07	310	2007/08	38	2007/09	85	2007/10	128	2007/11	0	2007/12	0	2008/01	0	2008/02	0	2008/03	0	2008/04	0	2008/05	0	2008/06	0	2008/07	387	2008/08	826	2008/09	559	2008/10	38	2008/11	3	2008/12	24	2009/01	729	2009/02	483	2009/03	172	2009/04	229	2009/05	1228	2009/06	320	2009/07	278	Logs Pages moved: 81 Pages patrolled: 118 Files uploaded: 1 Top edited articles Article

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NOTNEWS
I had a feeling someone might invoke bring up WP:NOTNEWS as a counter to my edits on the NFL page. I think that while Wikipedia is not news, there's really no reason for it to not have as up-to-date information as possible on events of surely encyclopedic significance. We have articles on every NFL postseason tournament, so I think that qualifies as surely encyclopedic. Nosleep break my slumber 02:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Wiki beliefs
I don't know who, if anyone, to frame these as response to, so I'll just post here. I urge you all not to think my "wiki-beliefs" as rules I live by. I would like every new article to be of a certain length - that doesn't at all mean I'd go around deleting shorter ones. It means I would dislike them and, at absolute most, encourage chronic authors of superstubs to write "beefier" first drafts. Those chronic authors would be free to take that advice or leave it. Same with IP's - I don't like them, I find it hard to trust them, but I don't automatically think they're out for ruin. I don't automatically think anything of anyone - it's just been, in my experience, a lot easier to earn trust of someone whose name I actually know (even when it's not really a real name, such as here or any online community). Think of it this way - if you don't support, say, marijuana decriminilization (or *insert divisive issue here*), you might not vote for a state Senate candidate who does. Your opposition should not, however, come from a fear that marijuana will instantly be smoked on every street corner in the world if that candidate is elected. If you think my generalized distrust of anons and preference for longer first drafts will by itself make me likely to misuse the admin tools, then you should...hell, you have a responsibility to oppose. But please, please, please don't oppose because you think I'd be IP-blocking every anon who looked at me funny or instantly deleting every 400 byte article I find while new page patrolling. I offer my sincerest word that that will never happen. I'm not gonna violate a consensus I disagree with just because I disagree with it - never have, never will. Nosleep break my slumber 02:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * As I said in my support this should be about whether we trust you to administer current policy, not whether we agree with you as to how that policy should change. Thats why I'm supporting you despite disagreeing with you on two fronts; however may I suggest you take the IP redlink challenge? Go to Special:RecentChanges, hide registered users, hide bots and spend half an hour looking at edits by IPs with redlinked talkpages, you never know it might just change your mind about IP editors.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  12:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Writing for the opposition
Response to User:Nick mallory (I initially had this under his comment, but it disturbed the numbering): Stubs are allowed on Wikipedia and IPs are allowed to edit. Indeed they are. Nothing I ever do will change that. And consensus is at the core of the reason why. I can believe one thing and abide by consensus to the contrary. I've even proactively implemented consensus with which I did not agree - here's the consensus, and here's my implementation of it. not want him to have the power to delete swathes of perfectly legitimate articles he didn't consider worthy of inclusion merely on the basis of their current size. That's never going to happen. I'll never delete anything except that which fits under obvious, established CSD criteria without a discussion taking place first. Nosleep break my slumber 03:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hang in there, these things can get pretty vicious. Show the community you are strong and can stand up to the criticism, it will go a long way. TharsHammar Bits andPieces 00:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yet you've said, in this RfA, that where discussion happens it's up to 'keep' to demonstrate the need for the keep. Combine that with the diff (also in this RfA) of you sending stuff to AfD because you didn't think it was notable (despite other editors easily finding notability/verifiable refs and you can see that people opposing might have concerns about hasty deletion.  Maybe if you had diffs showing where you had rescued articles from AfD by sourcing and referencing them it'd be different?  But also, what TharsHammer says: RfA is brutal.  Please don't get dispirited about this process. NotAnIP83:149:66:11 (talk) 11:07, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Didn't realize people were actually using this talk page. I can't think of any time I've nom'd anything for deletion where it was "easily" improved except the Cytowic book, and the sources for that article are all print sources - is it really my fault that I didn't find them? If my preference for beefier articles ever does lend itself to deletion, a case that extreme might be the only time; that article spent four years as a single sentence. To me, this says maybe it's not an article that can possibly be improved, and as such, maybe it's not an article we need. Is the concern that I would have just deleted it immediately if I had the power to? That's a little silly - the book didn't fall under any CSD criteria, so a discussion was necessary.
 * This process was actually about a thousand percent less brutal than I thought it would be. I thought I'd be laughed out of the building. Not surprised I won't pass, but I'm not disheartened at all. Nosleep  break my slumber 23:36, 31 July 2009 (UTC)