Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/TFOWR

Username:	TFOWR User groups:	rollbacker First edit:	Feb 02, 2008 06:05:13 Unique pages edited:	3,826 Average edits per page:	3.91 Live edits:	14,546 Deleted edits:	402 Total edits (including deleted):	14,948

Namespace Totals

Article	7422	51.02% Talk	1910	13.13% User	212	1.46% User talk	3321	22.83% Wikipedia	1384	9.51% Wikipedia talk	87	0.60% File	9	0.06% MediaWiki talk	1	0.01% Template	178	1.22% Template talk	16	0.11% Category	3	0.02% Category talk	2	0.01% Portal	1	0.01%

Month counts

2008/02	43	2008/03	298	2008/04	89	2008/05	40	2008/06	81	2008/07	77	2008/08	126	2008/09	260	2008/10	486	2008/11	696	2008/12	411	2009/01	751	2009/02	1263	2009/03	1429	2009/04	866	2009/05	1686	2009/06	1438	2009/07	1219	2009/08	363	2009/09	573	2009/10	172	2009/11	0	2009/12	0	2010/01	0	2010/02	0	2010/03	0	2010/04	58	2010/05	1831	2010/06	290

Top edited pages

(hide)Article 176 - Leon_Jackson 171 - Scotland 99 - Leona_Lewis 99 - Right_Now_(Leon_Jackson_album) 93 - Eurovision_Song_Contest_2009 92 - European_Union 92 - Eurovision_Song_Contest_2010 87 - Dubai 87 - Eoghan_Quigg 84 - V_for_Vendetta

(hide)Talk 172 - Main_Page 151 - Scotland 149 - Gaza_flotilla_raid 92 - IB_Diploma_Programme 63 - European_Union 56 - Gordon_Brown 49 - Susan_Boyle 46 - Elizabeth_II 42 - David_Cameron 35 - International_Baccalaureate

(hide)User 49 - TFOWR 23 - TFOWR/Sandbox 17 - TFOWR/Kabul 10 - TFOWR/sandbox2 10 - Orangemike 6 - Clinehan/Sandbox 6 - TFOWR/Kabul/Ariana310 4 - Jac16888 4 - TFOWR's_left_sock 4 - Verbal

(hide)User talk 496 - TFOWR 45 - Truthkeeper88 38 - Off2riorob 24 - Baseball_Bugs/Snapshot100130 23 - HJ_Mitchell 16 - ObserverNY 16 - Bosonic_dressing 15 - Rightandright 14 - Jza84 12 - GoodDay

(hide)Wikipedia 433 - Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents 166 - Help_desk 84 - Suspected_sock_puppets/Nimbley6_(5th) 73 - Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism 54 - Sockpuppet_investigations/Nimbley6 54 - Requests_for_page_protection 47 - Administrators'_noticeboard 21 - Third_opinion 20 - Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Nimbley6 16 - Wikiquette_alerts

(hide)Wikipedia talk 14 - Requests_for_adminship 10 - Sockpuppet_investigations 6 - WikiProject_Geography 5 - WikiProject_Eurovision 4 - Non-free_content 4 - WikiProject_Spam 3 - Alternative_text_for_images 3 - Articles_for_deletion 3 - Requests_for_adminship/Baseball_Bugs 3 - Manual_of_Style

(hide)File 3 - Norsefire-flag-comic.png 1 - Andrewwet.jpeg 1 - Spirit-fm.png 1 - Ramba_comics.jpg 1 - DVader.jpeg 1 - NICARAGUAN_FARMING_BOY.jpg 1 - Frying_range.JPG

(hide)MediaWiki talk 1 - Spam-blacklist

(hide)Template 23 - Leon_Jackson 15 - Paolo_Nutini 13 - Michelle_McManus 12 - Britain's_Got_Talent 11 - Calvin_Harris 10 - Kelly_Clarkson 7 - Lulu 7 - Dannii_Minogue 7 - Sandi_Thom 6 - Texas_(band)

(hide)Template talk 6 - Infobox_country 3 - Britain's_Got_Talent 2 - Socialism_sidebar 2 - Infobox_comic_book_title 1 - Celtic_nations 1 - Infobox_officeholder 1 - Eleventhdoctorcompanions

(hide)Category 1 - Melbourne_gangland_killings 1 - Michelle_McManus_songs 1 - Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Axmann8

(hide)Category talk 1 - Films_about_organised_crime_in_Australia 1 - Organised_crime_in_Australia

(hide)Portal 1 - Mathematics/Featured_picture/2008_02

+1 support
I know I can't vote here yet, but I'm not aware of anything preventing me from a fake sort of "beating the nom" by posting to the talk page.

I shall certainly be supporting this user, having recently had cause to interact with him, and, being the person I am, treating that interaction as my cue to look at his contributions. All I can do is parrot the old "I can't believe he isn't one already" cliche, because that was the vibe I went away with. Begoon (talk) 23:43, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

!Voting at XfDs
Epeefleche asked a question about a particular AfD, which deserves a longer answer than an RfA easily permits (not least, when the candidate fails to read the question properly...)

I've tended to only !vote in XfDs when I have something to add - I wouldn't normally !vote keep if it's obvious that the XfD is going to be snow-closed keep anyway.

In this particular case the vast majority of the !Votes were keep; aside from the nom and one other !vote, mine was the only delete (I actually !voted to delete or merge). At the time many details of the event were still up in the air, including the exact location if I remember rightly, and I felt that a counter !vote had merit, even if I was likely to "lose".

Perhaps more importantly here is how I handled the closure (badly, IMHO). Closure is of obvious importance in RfAs, since an admin would be expected to close XfDs frequently. Clearly this was AfD was part of my learning curve - I learned something about non-admin closures! For the record, if I was required to close this particular AfD today (assuming, obviously, that I was uninvolved) I'd close with a snow keep.

Which leads me on to the difference between regular editing and admin actions. Another comment in the RfA addressed an answer I'd given at WP:ANI with respect to WP:RFPP. My suggestions as a regular editor may well differ from the actions I'd take if I had the mop. I'm very used to "punting" issues to various venues (RFPP, AIV, SPI, etc) and letting cooler heads deal with the issues. I'm also familiar with being a cooler head at those venues. As an editor I might suggest that someone request something that I might not be prepared to do as an admin. For example, I might suggest - as a regular editor - RFPP (and protection) as a possible solution. I'd expect an admin to consider less restrictive options to protection (blocking, for example). I believe the same applies at XfDs - I might well !vote with a minority; I certainly wouldn't close for the minority.

Cheers, TFOWRidle vapourings 09:55, 10 June 2010 (UTC)