Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Teratornis

Editing stats for at 03:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC):

General user info Username: Teratornis User groups: rollbacker First edit: Apr 28, 2006 06:08:34 Unique articles edited: 1,590 Average edits per page: 6.29 Total edits (including deleted): 10,001 Deleted edits: 112 Live edits: 9,889

Namespace totals Article	2003	20.25% Talk	616	6.23% User	1094	11.06% User talk	540	5.46% Wikipedia	4936	49.91% Wikipedia talk	248	2.51% File	2	0.02% MediaWiki talk	1	0.01% Template	355	3.59% Template talk	64	0.65% Help	1	0.01% Help talk	14	0.14% Category	10	0.10% Category talk	5	0.05%

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Top edited articles Article

* 54 - Wind_power * 36 - 2000s_energy_crisis * 32 - Wind_power_in_the_United_States * 29 - Unconventional_wind_turbines * 28 - Pickens_Plan * 27 - Wind_power_in_Ohio * 25 - Panicum_virgatum * 24 - Environmental_effects_of_wind_power * 22 - Web_mapping * 16 - Wind_power_in_Texas

Talk

* 78 - Wind_power * 74 - Peak_oil * 37 - Pickens_Plan * 16 - Solar_energy * 13 - 2000s_energy_crisis * 13 - Panicum_virgatum * 12 - Wind_power_in_the_United_Kingdom * 10 - Wind_turbine * 10 - Wind_power_in_the_United_States * 7 - Nadine_Gordimer

User

* 437 - Teratornis/Energy * 219 - Teratornis/Notes * 150 - Teratornis * 46 - Teratornis/Sandbox2 * 40 - Teratornis/Help_desk_notes * 26 - Teratornis/Tips_for_teachers * 22 - Teratornis/Barnstars * 15 - Teratornis/Sandbox * 15 - Teratornis/Sandbox4 * 14 - Teratornis/Theory_of_Wikipedia

User talk

* 221 - Teratornis * 27 - John_Broughton/Editor's_Index_to_Wikipedia * 25 - John_Broughton * 15 - Johnfos * 14 - Manors * 10 - SoilMan2007 * 9 - Marycontrary * 7 - YRUsoamazing * 5 - Smith609 * 5 - Shelton1234

Wikipedia

* 4353 - Help_desk * 128 - Editor's_index_to_Wikipedia * 61 - Village_pump_(technical) * 35 - Help_desk/How_to_answer * 31 - WikiProject_Cycling * 16 - Editor's_index_to_Wikipedia/About * 13 - Help_desk/How_to_ask * 12 - FAQ/Organizations * 12 - Requests_for_adminship/Teratornis * 8 - WikiProject_Energy

Wikipedia talk

* 60 - Help_desk * 31 - WikiProject_Cycling * 13 - Template_messages * 9 - Editor's_index_to_Wikipedia * 9 - Avoid_instruction_creep * 8 - Why_was_my_page_deleted? * 7 - Advertisements * 6 - FAQ_Index * 5 - Help_desk/How_to_answer * 5 - Namespace

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* 1 - Greenhouse_Gas_by_Sector.png * 1 - Tlkobshadowlands.jpg

MediaWiki talk

* 1 - Copyrightwarning2

Template

* 40 - Google_custom/doc * 26 - Peak_oil * 21 - Energy_templates * 21 - Electricity_generation * 16 - Wind_power * 13 - Bioenergy * 13 - Energy_in_the_USA * 10 - Peak_oil/doc * 8 - Google_images/doc * 8 - Google_scholar_cite/doc

Template talk

* 7 - Peak_oil * 6 - Shortcut * 6 - Google * 5 - Google_custom * 5 - Villagepump * 4 - Coord * 3 - Archive_box_collapsible * 3 - Google_images * 2 - WikiProject_Energy * 2 - Bioenergy

Help

* 1 - Editing_sections_of_included_templates

Help talk

* 11 - Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual * 3 - Merging_and_moving_pages

Category

* 2 - Help_desk_templates * 1 - Wind_farms_in_the_Netherlands * 1 - Offshore_wind_farms * 1 - WikiProject_Cycling_members * 1 - Energy_templates * 1 - WikiProject_Cycling * 1 - Wind_power_in_Austria * 1 - Wind_farms_in_the_United_States * 1 - Wind_turbines_on_public_display

Category talk

* 1 - WikiProject_Cycling * 1 - Cycling_at_the_Olympics * 1 - Cycling_magazines * 1 - Touring_cyclists * 1 - National_cartographic_agencies

Another Question from Ched
Given your involvement with WP:TMM, have you ever considered the possibility of a conflict of interest when you post these links with your help desk replies? I ask for several reasons: 1.) I admit that my knowledge of copyright, GNU, and our GFDL is rudimentary at best. 2.) I don't wholly understand the reason for "Copyright © 2008 John Broughton", when it's released under "GNU Free Documentation License". 3.) Often, pointing to that rather lengthy read as an attempt to clarify the answer to a help desk question gives the appearance, to me anyway, as a tad over the top with overkill.

Please note that I ask the question back here on the talk page in an attempt to avoid "poisoning the well" so to speak. I have great admiration for your writing skills, but if there is some agenda that I'm unaware of, I'd like to be clued in. Thanks — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 23:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * On the copyright, here on Wikipedia, each user actually retains copyright and also licenses the text for further distribution via the GNU FDL. It's a license with particular terms on distribution. Unless text is released to the public domain (which the GNU FDL is not), there is an owner of the copyright. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 02:53, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You ask a good question. By way of disclosure, I received a small one-time cash payment for having served as the technical reviewer for the book. Divided by the number of hours I spent reading the book and writing comments (not surprisingly, I was not brief), the effective hourly rate might have embarrassed a call center employee in Bangalore. I receive no royalties from sales of the paper copy. I have no idea of the deal that John received because he hasn't told me and I haven't asked him. Presumably there is no revenue generated for anyone when someone views the online copy that John donated to the Wikimedia Foundation. Before the free version came online, I occasionally recommended the paper copy. Now that the free version is available, I generally only recommend that. Since the online copy seems to be exactly like any other content on Wikipedia, and I cannot profit even indirectly when people view it, I can't think of a way that I have a conflict of interest. However, if there is consensus that I do, I will agree to stop mentioning the book. I recommend the book because I am familiar with its content and I believe it is likely to greatly benefit any new Wikipedia user who reads it and who wants to become a serious contributor here. All the same content is available in Wikipedia's online help pages, but not in the same orderly format with a logical sequential order for reading. The book would have helped me when I was new to Wikipedia. I haven't heard any negative feedback about the book at all yet, although I have not monitored every location where criticism might have occurred. At least one other similar book is available now, but I have not read it yet. I would recommend a competing book if I knew it to be better, either in general or about some particular topic. --Teratornis (talk) 03:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't wholly understand the reason for "Copyright © 2008 John Broughton" . And I don't either; I just posted what the lawyer at O'Reilly Media said to do.  I certainly hope that the intent is clear: to provide a way for less-experienced editors to learn the technical and community rules of Wikipedia more easily than finding and reading documentation.  (For those who are experienced enough to prefer the documentation, there is the Editor's index to Wikipedia, something which both Teratornis and I have played a large part in creating, expanding, and publicizing.)  And, for the record, no, I don't get any money from people reading H:TMM; O'Reilly Media doesn't get any money; no one gets any money.  -- John Broughton  (♫♫) 01:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)