Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/International Churches of Christ/Evidence

Interpret / translation
Given the stated lack of fluency from one the the participants, an admin on the Hungarian WP (User:Nyenyec) has graciously offered to provide guidance and help. If there appears to be a linguistic issue during the case, bringing it to his attention may be worthwhile. &mdash; Coren (talk) for the Arbitration Committee 14:11, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't participate in this because, my english is very poor. Even native language neither isn't easy in the similar situation like this. This is too difficult for me, without superlative english.--TransylvanianKarl (talk) 07:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * TransylvanianKarl, if you drop me an email (nyenyec at gmail dot com), I'll give you my instant messaging contacts. Or you can find me, and other Hungarian wikipedians on IRC: hu:WP:IRC.
 * We can help you translate in both directions and also explain about the process.
 * Cheers, nyenyec &#9742; 15:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, az emailcímedet így ne értem, de megnéztem ezt az IRC-t tök jó, nem is tudtam, hogy van ilyen. Ma beléptem anonként, épp nem voltál. --TransylvanianKarl (talk) 13:36, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, nyenyec for volunteering to help. As you can see from the wording of the case, the proposed ruling (which I support) does not have severe sanctions; rather they are proposals requiring TransylvanianKarl to learn our core policies and follow them. If you could help explain our core policies to him, that would be a big help also. After he understands the policies and our ruling, then we can much more fairly deal with any of his future policy violations (if any) through regular administrators or more Arbitration Committee sanctions (if we re-open the case.) FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 15:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

We had a lengthy discussion with TransylvanianKarl. I tried to explain how I see his ArbCom case, encouraged him to use the talk page instead of reverting what seems to be a version supported by consensus.

Most of the important English policies have Hungarian translations he can read. These are usually pretty close to the originals.

I also advised him to seek help on the Hungarian IRC channel if needed. We usually have several English-speaking experienced Wikipedians over there.

I explicitly asked if he needs any further help with translation and he said that it's not the case at the moment. I expect him to contact either me, or other HuWikipedians if he needs any further assistance.

-- nyenyec &#9742; 13:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 14:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

My evidence
Apologies on the lateness of getting my evidence in place. I hadn't yet noticed the proposed decision (expecting something to appear in /Workshop first), and it also took me a while before I thought of some aspects I could contribute beyond Xiaphias's already exhaustive evidence. Powers T 12:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Thank you for taking the time to give the evidence. I'll take a look. FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 13:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you also for posting the evidence. The reasons that I bypassed the workshop page in this instance and moved straight to /proposed decision should hopefully be clear from the proposed decision itself. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)