Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Octavian history

Request for appeal: Octavian history
List of any users involved or directly affected, and confirmation that all are aware of the request:
 * (initiator, SPA)

Statement by Octavian history
I am writing this for User:Octavian history because his account was blocked by an admin who is abusing his powers. Here is what he wrote:

"Dear Wikipedia admins, I am a major contributor to Wikipedia and have been blocked for no reason. Wanted to ask for your help. As a scholar and historian I have tried very hard to improve Wikipedia and make it a better place. User Gyrofrog (real name [redacted]) is an admin who is abusing his powers and has blocked my account (Octavian history) indefinitely for absolutely no reason. I can prove he has stalked my every move and has lead a terror campaign against me from the minute I started on wiki! He is absolutely obsessed with my every move and is a very unjust individual. He claims he blocked me because I am a "sock puppet", but that is absolutely not true. A few people do use this computer at the office and I did not know they can't write about the same subject. Gyro claims I have a million sock puppets, but that claim is 100% false. I have asked the two individuals at my office to never write about the same subject again, so it does not any confusion. Wiki rule says "Blocks are used to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, not to punish users". I have never damaged Wikipedia and only helped construct over 1200 edits. I have not done anything wrong, but have made over a 1200 constructive edits and created many new topics of great interest with factual citations. I started and convinced the scientific community on wiki to correct and change the name of Charles Darwin's book On the Origin of Species. I have not only made over a thousand constructive edits, but I have also created dozens of important pages such as: Beverly Hills Police Department

Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Union speech

Jack Clemmons

Marina Oswald Porter (Lee Harvey Oswald's wife, the assasin of President Kennedy) Please restore my account and please tell me how to stop gyrofrog from harassing and stalking me. Thank you very much for your time!!! Sincerely, Octavian history"--Wiki-user3728 (talk) 12:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Originally posted by User:Wiki-user3728 at Requests for arbitration/Octavian history on February 19, 2008. Original has since been oversighted -- see above redaction. FT2 (Talk 19:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Statement by Thatcher (Checkuser)
I have rechecked the findings at Requests for checkuser/Case/Johnyajohn. It is clear that the following accounts have been operated from the same computer and the same internet connection: ; ; ; ;
 * ; ; . Other listed accounts are too old to check.  Detailed records will be made available to the Arbitrators on request.  Sadly, checkuser is not enabled with a time-travelling reverse web-cam, so claims of family/friends/etc editing will have to evaluated on behavioral as well as technical grounds.  However, one particular series of edits on 19 January may shed light on this request.
 * 19:32 Octavian history comments on Articles for deletion/Hajj Amin Elahi
 * 19:43 Octavian history signs a comment on the AfD
 * 19:47 someone at this computer connects to Wikipedia through AOL and creates
 * 19:49 Hasan075 votes in the AfD
 * 19:52 Hasan075 makes an edit to Kurdish music
 * 21:33 Hasan075 is indefinitely blocked by Gyrofrog
 * 21:44 Octavian history is blocked for 24 hours by Gyrofrog for abusing multiple accounts

Note that and  are also coming from the same connection and computer. Thatcher 05:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Statement by Gyrofrog (blocking admin)
As I am specifically named in Wiki-user3728's request, and as I am the blocking admin, I am directly involved. As such, the requester should have (but did not) notify me, as per step 4 in the instructions at the top of this section. I am compelled to point out that the requester has moved on to impugning my name ("sick individuals like Gyrofrog"). Over the course of our interactions I have never addressed Octavian_history in such a manner (nor, for that matter, anyone else on Wikipedia). Whatever the ultimate outcome, I am asking that Wiki-user3728, Octavian_history, et al be further enjoined from making personal attacks against me, including accusations of stalking, obsession, etc. (e.g. this series of edits). As for Octavian_history's block, I think the checkuser results speak for themselves (particularly the edits made four minutes apart from 2 accounts), but also that (at least in hindsight) the conflict of interest described at User_talk:Johnyajohn was and is sufficient. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Update (2008-07-18): See also the subsequent entries to the RFCU on 2008-03-19, 2008-05-13, and 2008-07-07, along with the repercussions from having blocked User:Joe1p1p. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Arbitrator views and discussion

 * See evidence of large scale sock use at Requests for checkuser/Case/Johnyajohn, on more than one occasion. I do not agree that Gyrofrog's block can be construed as "harassing" or "stalking". His role as an administrator is to prevent abuse of editing privileges. A request for checkuser review concluded there was disruptive sockpuppetry and the account was indeed a sockpuppet.

I also note that this request is itself not without problems. The bringer of this request, User:Wiki-user3728, who states "I am writing this for User:Octavian history because his account was blocked", is actually (and unsurprisingly), almost certainly not "writing for" someone, but is almost certainly Octavian History himself. As a second aside he seems to have used his login on Feb 19 to create a second account, used as an undisclosed new sockpuppet, namely. FT2 (Talk 19:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Update, comment received: "Dear sir, I am not him, but a family member. If you look at his history you will notice he has not done a single vandalism or unconstructive edit. He has also fought against vandals. There are thousands of people who attack wiki every minute with vandalism. I truly can't believe that you would not side with someone who has tried hard to create and improve so many articles. Two of the puppets were friends and family members, not the 100 that have been named. Also, we did not know that friends and family cannot agree about the same subject. I can easily never work on any article that he does from now on if that helps" . Submitted for RFCU review, again at Requests for checkuser/Case/Johnyajohn. FT2 (Talk 20:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * In light of the long history of abuse, the checkuser findings, the personal attacks against the blocking administrator, and the fact that the request is from a sockpuppet of a blocked/banned user, no action is warranted on this appeal. The proper procedure for banned users who would like their bans removed is via e-mail to the committee. In light of the history here, I would prefer to see at least 6 months elapse without further socking or abuse before I would entertain such an appeal. Newyorkbrad (talk) 12:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)