Wikipedia talk:Requests for checkuser/Case/His excellency

4th Checkuser

 * Edits looks like H.E. also. - Merzbow 19:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * H.E has a distinct style of writing and expression, which i don't see in Ibn Shah's contributions. as for removing Ali Sina from a list (rightly so, he doesn't have his own article and seems to be non-notable), i believe this is what numerous users have done, including myself. ITAQALLAH  19:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, Ibn Shah sounds very similar to H.E. in diction and grammar and in the way he continually revises his talk edits, except with the incivility toned down a bunch. But the punch line is that we know he's MomoShomo, who was significantly more incivil, marking good-faith edits as rvv exactly like H.E. did, etc. - Merzbow 00:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? The only edit that I did that in was here and even then I had copied the edit summary from the previous editor. Ibn Shah 00:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Because Arrow740 (a long-term editor and no vandal) incorrectly reverted your edit with "rvv" didn't give you license to revert back with the same. - Merzbow 01:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I was indeed reverting vandalism. The editor inserted nonsense into the article on the book, then removed sourced, totally topical content from the Islam and children article, citing his additions to the article on the book as the authority. Arrow740 23:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)'
 * My apologies then. - Merzbow 23:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That is a lie. It was not "my material" and had been in the article for quite some time before Matt57 removed it, so that is why I assumed it was reliable. Ibn Shah 23:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Whether or not you put it in first, you did put it in, so I assumed it was you who had done it first. If it was not you then I apologize for that. Arrow740 23:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You cannot ask me to extend respect to those who cannot return it. But anyway, according to your edit summary logic, Arrow is also the same person as His Excellency. Ibn Shah 01:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Your grasp of logic is stunning. Anyways, I'm not the one you need to convince, it's Tom Harrison, who was MomoShomo's blocking admin. Good luck. - Merzbow 01:41, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ibn Shah, if you are User:MomoShomo, but not User:His excellency, why didn't you say anything when MomoShomo was indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet of His excellency?Proabivouac 19:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I tried to post on the talk page of the admin who blocked me but I couldn't edit his page, or any page for that matter. I also wasn't aware of any procedure like checkuser that could clear my name. I ask that the checkuser people compare my IP's with the confirmed sockpuppets below, i.e. User:Habibz, USer:Gridges, and User:Yorkuz so we can move on. Ibn Shah 00:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Ibn Shah is to Habibz, Gridges, or Yorkuz. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 05:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Based on editing style, Ibn Shah, MomoShomo, and His excellency are the same. Compare this confirmed sockpuppet of His excellency with these by MomoShomo and Ibn Shah. Also see . Tom Harrison Talk 08:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I am also struck by the similarities in diffs from Ibn Shah (the one you referenced and another from this page) and one from an alleged His excellency sockpuppet from last year, User:Shams2006:
 * "'There are other people out there that may have the same opinion…'Seasoned Editor'? I've been reading discussions here for two months. Understanding how this place operates is really not that hard.'"
 * "'If this person and I feel the same way on the same issues we are the same person?...I dont know what is so complicated about editing that you make a big deal that I edit like an experienced user. It just takes a few minutes to learn how to edit.'"
 * "'But anyway, according to your edit summary logic, Arrow is also the same person as His Excellency.'"
 * "'Using this method if you search enough you can 'prove' I am many other people too. Your user page says you eat cheese. I eat cheese too! That must make me Merzbow too then.'"
 * In a precisely analogous situation, the arguments are precisely the same. Whatever the (self-requested) CU results, it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that a single individual is behind these posts.
 * Another conspicuous fact: at no point (yet) has Ibn Shah actually denied being His excellency, but only stated there was no evidence, and now very curiously asked after CU results to see where he stands. Earlier, he denied any knowledge of the situation of which he can only have been acutely aware, as his sockpuppet User:MomoShomo (why this sock was opened to begin with is yet another question) had already been indef blocked as a sock of His excellency. His explanation above that he was not able to respond to this allegation ignores that 1) MomoShomo would still have been able to respond on MomoShomo's own talk page and 2) user had already been posting as User:Ibn Shah, which was never blocked. And how did he find this page, of which he was supposedly unaware?Proabivouac 09:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Proabivouac, when people are faced with the same accusations, they are likely to make the same counterarguments. How was I supposed to know that I was still able to respond on my talk page? Did anyone inform me? No. How did I find this page? I looked at Matt57's contributions. The checkuser person has said that I have no relation to the previous sockpuppets and His Excellency has seemed to appear in this discussion two times, so anyone can compare my IP with these accounts as well. Now please stop bothering me with frivolous accusations. I did not join Wikipedia to waste my time with such things. Ibn Shah 16:22, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Any ideas on how User:Hisexcellencyreturns knew to join this discussion?Proabivouac 00:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Maybe he checks this page or the contributions of people who have posted here. Checking the history it doesn't seem to be his first time joining these discussions. Ibn Shah 02:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

discussion has been added from the main page below. --ST47 Talk 11:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You have not commented on if I have any relation to His Excellency. Ibn Shah 18:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Someone else gets to do the edit analyses; I'm just reporting on the IP usage. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 18:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand that but you have not said what the IP usage of His Excellency shows in relation to me. Ibn Shah 18:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * His Excellency is stale; no comment regarding his IP usage. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 18:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

...I ask that the checkuser people compare my IP's with the confirmed sockpuppets below, i.e. User:Habibz, USer:Gridges, and User:Yorkuz so we can move on. Ibn Shah 00:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you please stop wasting other people's time HE? What makes you think it's alright for you to do all this? Arrow740 22:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There ya go, His Excellency. Ibn Shah = His Excellency. I knew it was something fishy. Its sad when someone has to resort to sock puppeting in order to get their point of view heard. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 14:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

5th Checkuser

 * His Excellency has never edited the latter article according to its history. Error1010 04:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You admitted one of them: . Arrow740 06:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added, same edit to Battle of Khaybar as User:Evenpaint.Proabivouac 20:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Just added User:Benizer; I'm not completely sure he is a sock, but I suspect he is.-- Sef rin gle Talk 22:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * User:Benizer's recent comments to WP:3RR support this identification.Proabivouac 00:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added User:Tonysop; continued edit-war after Benizer was blocked.Proabivouac 17:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I must say this checkuser request is taking a long time.-- Sef rin gle Talk 20:51, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added Vice regent, clearly a sock. Beit Or 21:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Having reviewed contribs, I see no reason to think Vice Regent the same individual as His excellency. I suggest removing him/her from the queue.Proabivouac 23:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The checkuser (if it ever is completed) will determine for us whether or not he is or is not a sock. We just shouldn't treat his edits as if he is until we know for sure, but lets leave the reqeest in just to be sure.-- Sef rin gle Talk 03:59, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added User:Frebruddy, who has picked up where User:Benizer and User:Tonysop left off.Proabivouac 19:06, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added User:Ezag, a number of Bangladesh-related edits consistent with contribs of admitted sock User:Amibidhrohi and self id'd background, followed by a string of relatively reasonable edits to Muhammad and Talk:Muhammad centered around the depictions debate. However, this edit sounds quite a bit like the individual behind the User:His excellency socks, and he/she scurried away after I'd asked him/her about it. I don't necessarily ask that this username be blocked, as there is not yet any substantial disruption, but its inclusion in the mix might bring to light other socks.Proabivouac 09:29, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added User:Chestinput, another SPA on Islam in the United States.Proabivouac 09:35, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Added User:Msarkar and User:Lekociv as both are wikistalking User:Matt57, a common action of User:His excellency. Also, they both seem to be familiar with how to edit wikipedia dispite it being their first edit.-- Sef rin gle Talk 20:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It is especially concerning that appears to be impersonating the real-life Edina Lekovic. - Merzbow 20:34, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Can a checkuser be preformed on User:Jayran? I suspect he may also be His excellency. -- Sef rin gle Talk 19:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ezag is still active. Arrow740 20:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I just want to respond to this by asking, how can I prove that I am not a sockpuppet? I have no idea why sefringle is insistent that I can not delete a warning on my talk page despite wikipedia policy saying that I can. It is rather troublesome that someone can try to block me just because I deleted a part of an article that had information that even a person that had the most cursory of studies in the subject would know is false. Oh, and for what it is worth, I'm not a Muslim but a barely practicing Catholic. Jayran 21:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * He doesn't look like an H.E. sock (I don't think H.E. ever edited anything to do with French culture). We need to be careful here. - Merzbow 21:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I see no particular similarity.Proabivouac 21:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree, this is hardly His excellency. Beit Or 21:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)