Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Atabek

User:Hajji Piruz response to User:Atabek summary

 * He claims I expressed my intentions of getting him banned here: Nowhere did I ever say such a thing, here is the entire quote:


 * Tariq, his false accusations are personal attacks right? Cant you do anything based on what you've seen here? I will definetly go to mediation though. Tariq, you should also know that Atabek was initially supposed to be blocked for a period of 1 year according to the arbcom, but for some reason the administrators changed their mind at the last minute (I think because of lobbying by another user involved in the Arbcom on Atabek's side).


 * I merely pointed out the fact that Atabek was previously proposed for a 1 year block. Atabek completely distorts the description to win sympathy.


 * He claims I attacked him several times on the Safavids article, citing these two diffs: and


 * Where are the personal attacks in those? There are none, simple as that. Atabek against distorts his description to gain sympathy. A) I did not call his edit vandalism, I said it "could be considered vandalism", and even if I had called his edit vandalism, that would not have been considered a personal attack as per Wikipedia rules and policies. B) Last I checked, calling someone somebody else's body wasnt a personal attack.


 * This user doesnt know what canvassing is evidently, as he claims that he was not canvassing...need I really say anything regarding that? I clearly showed his canvassing on the project page.


 * This user also apparently isnt familiar with what edit warring is. He claims I am edit warring on this article simply because I asked him not to change the format.Hajji Piruz 01:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Response to Atabek's friends
Where is your evidence? Thats all I got to say. All I see are the same accusations Atabek makes, and just like him, there isnt a shred of evidence.Hajji Piruz 03:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Atabek will flood this RFC
Atabek will flood this RFC as his friends will come to his aid. Note that User:Elsanaturk, a person who has not been active since June 5th, made commenting on this article his third edit. Interesting. Other users I expect that will come here to support Atabek's summary of events are User:Grandmaster, User:Dacy69, and possibly User:Parishan & User:Zondi. Also for the record, most of these users all sound the same, which make one wonder if they arent communicating via e-mail and telling each other what to say. Notice how Eslanaturks comments are almost identical to what Atabek says, in appearance and in content and in the way facts (or should I say lack of facts) are presented.

The reason I make this comment is so that when it happens, users know that I knew it was going to happen (as it has happened on so many reports in the past) and so that it becomes evident to everyone whats going on.Hajji Piruz 01:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * As I predicted, Atabek is already going to his friends in an attempt to flood the article with people who support him. Look at this diff where he asks Dacy69 and Gramdaster to make a comment here: and


 * Just like I had told you this would happen. Atabek is trying to sabotage this RFC. This is ridiculous!Hajji Piruz 01:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * In all fairness, and because the admin I talked to apparently didnt think this was a big deal, I will also notify some users.Hajji Piruz 03:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:CANVAS...  Sala Skan  12:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully my only and last comment on this page
Hajji Piruz, if you're so confident about the purpose and scope of this RfC, why are you so "afraid" that other users (which you call "my friends" again without any kind of WP:AGF) will or do post their comments? Actually, I wrote to Ali Doostzadeh as well, perhaps, he is my friend as well, since we edited and achieved consensus on Safavid dynasty :) Good luck to you with your smear campaign against myself. Atabek 10:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not afraid. The only way we can settle this is if third party neutral users look at the evidence and comment. We'll never get anywhere if you get all the Azerbaijan users to support you and I get all the Iranian users to support me. Why do you think I didnt tell any of the Iranian users? Because I wanted to settle this once and for all. You wanted to sabotage this RFC. I'm afraid an arbcom between you and I may be the only solution, where admin's look at all the evidence and make a final decision. If you continue making the false accusations like you just did above, and attempt to use my own comments on your own behalf, we will definetly go to arbcom, as you obviously havent learned anything from all of this.Hajji Piruz 14:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)