Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Rangerdude

What's the violation?
user:Rangerdude has assembled a detailed list of what he perceives to be the harms that I have done to him. Yet throughout the long list I don't see where I have violated any Wikipedia policies or guidelines. I certainly admit to getting a fact wrong here or there. But none of the items on Rangerdude's list justifies personal attacks, a practice which is prohibited. If I have broken a rule then please specify which one. Thanks, -Willmcw 08:23, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)


 * Once again, Will, wikipedia policies and guidelines generally require common etiquette, civility, and assumption of good faith. It also requires as a general rule that all edits should have a positive and constructive contribution to wikipedia. It is my complaint that:
 * 1. You have engaged in poor etiquette by unduly singling me out for the object of your edits in a manner that I strongly consider to be harassing, and which I have informed you of many times.
 * 2. You have breached civility towards me by persisting in this practice despite my standing and vocal objections to it.
 * 3. You have not assumed good faith, as wikipedia requires, toward my edits in general and instead subject them to undue scrutiny and standards of proof that you do not follow for edits of your own and that are above and beyond anything officially required by wikipedia.
 * 4. You have not assumed good faith, as wikipedia requires, toward the content of my edits as demonstrated by recurring attempts to dismantle and deconstruct them pending demands that I reach standards of "proof" imposed arbitrarily by yourself.
 * 5. The majority of your major revisions to my edits have contributed little to no positive new material to wikipedia and instead have focused upon minimizing or removing my contributions (including in several places where doing so is completely without justification), deconstructing my edits, agitating existing disputes and fueling existing disagreements in which I am involved, and conducting yourself in a manner that fosters undue hostility and a deconstructive treatment of articles in general - all activities that conflict with wikipedia's directive to make edits that are positive and constructive.
 * These are brief summaries of my complaints, will, and the evidence includes that which I've provided. If mediation or some other form of discussion can resolve them, I suggest we take it up there. Rangerdude 17:44, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * There is no rule against editing the same articles as you do. I don't believe that I have never been uncivil in my editing encounters with you, and if I have I apologize. I'm sorry that you don't think my edits have contributed to the encyclopedia. I am always trying to improve. Deconstruction was my bain in college - my professor would be amazed to discover that I am now a practitioner (in fact, I'm amazed too). Wikilove, -21:14, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * There are rules for etiquette, civility, and assuming good faith though. As noted, the aforementioned incivility is not in your tone but rather your actions. The other cases have already been detailed. Also, please refrain from semiotic misconstructions of the signifier-signifant relationship in places where a different relationship than what you snidely purport to be responding to is plainly indicated and exhibited in the original text. They bring us no closer to resolving the dispute and give the appearance of being intentionally uncooperative. Rangerdude 21:49, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Whole hunk of text cut from RFM
I would like to expand my pending case against User:Willmcw for wiki-stalking and personal harassment to include User:SlimVirgin. This action has become necessary over the past several weeks as SlimVirgin is now actively aiding and abetting Willmcw's personal harassment of myself and employing her administrative powers to do so. Earlier today SlimVirgin became actively involved in promoting a disruptive WP:POINT attack on my userpage by Willmcw that was intended to disrupt the development of a new wikipedia guideline proposal I have been working on (please see Willmcw's announcement of this intent to disrupt by filing the allegation here). SlimVirgin is now actively promoting this disruption and assisting Willmcw in making it as the previous diff indicates. Earlier today she also employed her administrative powers to control access to my personal userpage for the purpose of promoting this disruptive attack and did not release the page from protection until after I posted a complaint against her for doing so on both the Administrator noticeboard and the Page Protection noticeboard. SlimVirgin has also exhibited extreme personal belligerency towards me in her comments and has repeatedly made bad faith insinuations against my edits, including in a recent case where she accused me of vandalizing other people's posts when a programming glitch deleted one. SlimVirgin has also attacked me through multiple rude, belittling, and hostile personal comments, and this in spite of a standing Arbcom caution against her against making personal attacks. Repeated attempts to direct her to these policies and deflect her hostility as well as repeated requests that she not use her administrative powers to assist either herself or Willmcw in the current dispute have been met with only further hostility by her. Reason also exists to conclude that she and Willmcw are in active off-site communication regarding the dispute between him and myself, and that the two have made/promoted the aforementioned WP:POINT disruption against me in coordination.

Given this situation I would like to formally extend my previous harassment complaint against Willmcw to SlimVirgin, who is now an active participant in assisting him in the same pattern of behavior that prompted original complaint. I will also ask for the assistance of any neutral mediator, and request that the current mediation involving myself and Willmcw be extended to SlimVirgin as well and be conducted on a public wikipedia mediation page until resolved. Your help is needed in resolving this dispute, which has already gone on for far too long. Thank you. Rangerdude 19:14, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Update - In the time I was posting this request, User:Willmcw deleted a message I posted to the incident board stating my complaints against himself and SlimVirgin for harassment and abuse of administrator powers and informing the latter of my decision to extend the case against Willmcw to her as well. This deletion may be found here. Rangerdude 19:24, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


 * In response, I won't participate in mediation with Rangerdude. I'm not involved in a dispute with him, though I acknowledge he's doing his best to drag me into one. SlimVirgin (talk) 19:25, August 18, 2005 (UTC)


 * Very well then. In light of SlimVirgin's refusal to participate in dispute resolution regarding her behavior, I will be seeking arbitration against her for repeated harassment and repeated violations of Wikipedia protocol on good faith assumption and no personal attacks. Is there an arbitrator who will help with this matter? Rangerdude 19:40, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Rangerdude has never filed a harassment complaint against me and instead has been building an "attack file" on a user page since June. He repeatedly talks about my supposed harassment, and his supposed evidence, to others in a variety of contexts but these charges have never been presented or reviewed. I call on Rangerdude to "put up or shut up": either file an RfC or RfA on the matter or delete the attack page and stop making allegations. Thus far he has refused to participate in mediation under standard procedures, so I no longer think it is worth waiting for that to happen. -Willmcw


 * The above statement is yet another a falsehood by Willmcw. I filed an incident report against Willmcw on June 15th located here for harassment and wikistalking against me. In retaliation to the incident report, Willmcw initiated an RfC against me for accusing him of wiki-stalking. Mediation was suggested in response to my incident report, to which both myself and Willmcw agreed at the time. User:Andrevan agreed at this time to mediate. I have from that time until the present maintained the file of Willmcw's harassment and stalking that I started when first filing the report . It is accessible to any user who wishes to review the evidence. Rangerdude 22:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


 * RD, you don't need an arbitrator to "help with this matter," whatever that means. You file an RfAr the same as everyone else. Instructions are on the page. See you in court. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:14, August 18, 2005 (UTC)


 * Too early for Mediation. Please create a Request For Comment first, showing how you and at least one other contributor have tried (and failed) to resolve this matter. User:Ed Poor, Mediation Committee 00:48, August 19, 2005 (UTC)


 * Too early, or too late. Rangerdude has filed an RfAr regarding SlimVirgin and me, and I have filed one regarding his behavior. -Willmcw 20:41, August 23, 2005 (UTC)