Wikipedia talk:Requests for investigation/Archives/2006/04

Unregistered users

 * -- Seems to add his advertisement to absolutely _anything_ Guns N Roses related. Too much for me to handle, sorry. // JoachimK 23:07, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like they have all been reverted. I've added a warning. Report to WP:AIV if they persist. Petros471 17:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- I think this guy is link spamming wikipedia. An nslookup on his ip give "gw01.penton.com". The website penton.com is a food service thing and this person is editing websites related to baking. Maybe a block on this IP would be good. I reverted his/her edits twice and I only have one left before 3RR. Tony 19:08, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've given a spam warning, but they seem to have stopped for now. Report again if needed. Petros471 17:10, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- This guy keeps removing the section "Wikipedia" from the page, Marty Meehan. I don't want to violate the 3RR or get in an edit war. Can somebody come stop this guy. //  George Mon  e  y Talk   Contribs 03:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- changing heights and weights without citing any sources. They're all within the ballpark of plausibility, but unless the user is copying from a book or something, I'm wary. // Amcfreely 03:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Anon user at 66.228.245.85 had a similar pattern before being blocked as a vandal. Amcfreely 03:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to verify the information either way? Petros471 19:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- The article Music of Turkey is being vandalized by 82.145.231.194 with personal attacks and offensive language. // Metb82 13:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Watch for a while longer. Report to WP:AIV for block if needed. Petros471 14:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Blocked. Petros471 15:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- A long history of adding fake newscasts, and removing real ones on various local TV-related articles. Already warned many times. Requesting a ban for about a month. Good kitty 13:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by  Whomp (talk • contribs) 16:47, 11 Apr 2006  (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|15px]] User has never been blocked before, so a month is out of the question. --ZsinjTalk 13:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If they return with clear vandalism then please report to WP:AIV. Petros471 20:27, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- This is an Elsevier IP address that is being used to subtly change information in articles that may be considered critical of Elsevier. Given the size and importance of Elsevier and its relation to discussions of intellectual property law, I think this qualifies as extremely important and in need of some form of urgent, official response on the part of Wikipedia.  Elijahmeeks 23:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Warned them, watch more. Petros471 11:44, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Also which edited Citation index immediately following .241 on 28 March.  RIPE states that the entire 194.128.151.* range is registered to Elsevier, but I don't know of any easy way to check the contributions of all of them to see if there are any other active IP addresses in that range used for questionable edits.  I'd rather not do it manually, but I will in this case given the nature of things. Elijahmeeks 19:01, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

These are some of the articles
 * who is ]] Has been committing frequent acts of sneaky vandalism in numerous ww2 articles for a long period of time. The acts are removeing paragraphs of importans and altering of sourced figures without useing a source.

Battle of kursk He removes 300 thousand casulites for the german side wihtout useing any source which can be seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Kursk&diff=47294776&oldid=47142802

Winter war he alters the figures and removes 2 key paragraphs which are Finnish President Urho Kekkonen stated in September 1963, "When now, after more than 20 years, we put ourselves in the position of the Soviet Union, then in light of Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941, the concern that the USSR had, and should have had, in relation to its safety at the end of the 1930's becomes understandable." AND   It was recently confirmed in a study by Finnish historian Lasse Laaksonen that the Finnish army was on the verge of total collapse when the armistice was signed. It is speculated that since Stalin had practically wiped out his intelligence apparatus in Finland during the purges, he was not aware that continuing the war for only a week longer would have led to the inevitable and total defeat of the Finnish army. Despite the heroic resistance of the Finns, the Soviets would have inevitably won through attrition. This last part has been sourced and can easily be varified here        http://www.hs.fi/english/article/1101978837065

Battle of Berlin he alters sourced figures without stateing any source which can be seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Berlin&diff=47120722&oldid=46740056

He has done the same in many article if there is any doubt that this is sneaky vandalism then I can provide more articles where he has done the same thing, altered sourced figures without himself proveding any source. (Deng 09:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC))
 * Lack of citing sources and strong lack of discussion about topics. It looks like this IP would rather argue through edit summaries than use a Talk page. (See contribs and User Talk page.) It also appears that the editor is becoming frustrated with having to keep changing "500,000" German casualities to "200,000" without citing a source.
 * [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|15px]] Blockable offences:
 * 3RR on Battle of Kursk for these three edits:, , and.
 * The registered account was blocked for 3 hours on 4/6/06 by WoohooKitty for personal attacks and reckless editing. This block is also for 3RR on the 1st of April.
 * I am going to keep investigating and watching this IP and registered user for any other violations. Due to the age of some of the violations, a temporary block that would have been placed would already have expired. All future violations should be easy to prove and placed on WP:AIAV, otherwise placed here as a note to this investigation. --ZsinjTalk 16:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * He did it again on the Battle of Berlin http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Berlin&diff=47625819&oldid=47451264 and here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Cape_Spartivento&diff=47604463&oldid=46471746 (Deng 09:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC))
 * And again here Second Battle of El Alamein http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Battle_of_El_Alamein&diff=24902226&oldid=24323931 and again in the same article here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Second_Battle_of_El_Alamein&diff=35093349&oldid=35078784 This must stop, this is sneaky vandalism and it must stop (Deng 13:49, 9 April 2006 (UTC))
 * The IP seems to be contributing more constructively while the registered user has several people on him for his lack of citations. I suggest archiving this one.--ZsinjTalk 05:27, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- Over in Saw III, he keeps on false plot information with no sources to back it up. I revert it and tell him he needs to back up his sources. He says he IS the source and "I cant give you any wevsite sources because it has not been released onto the net, i work for the studio." I tell him that this violates the Original research rule, but he kept on doing and ignored me. When I told him that I reported him, he said "y r u such a rat, bum head?" and "they have never had to deal with tattle-tales like you mr. bum head!"// --CyberGhostface 12:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I didn't see this one down here at the bottom. I've commented on the Talk page and reverted his most recent addition of the uncited material from the article. If it continues, try to find a 3RR violation or a personal attack to block him for. --ZsinjTalk 14:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Gave a final warning on user talk page. Admin: Please block for continued vandalism if it continues past this timestamp. --ZsinjTalk 14:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Archived, no recent activity. Deliberately and verifiably falsifying information is vandalism, and personal attacks are not acceptable; see Administrator intervention against vandalism if they continue. // [ admin ] Pathoschild (talk/map) 08:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- This IP address engages in vandalism on an irregular basis (30+ times since October, 5 times this month). Every edit I checked randomly was vandalism. It appears to be from a school in Brookville, Pennsylvania. Several warnings have been left at the talk page by other users, but no block that I could find.// Ruhrfisch 02:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Replied on User talk:Ruhrfisch. Petros471 14:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Archived. This request is outside the scope of this process page; see Administrator intervention against vandalism instead. // [ admin ] Pathoschild (talk/map) 08:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * This IP's most recent "edit" at Fleur-de-lis includes: "(A warning (last chance) to the one who is in lack of knowlegde) dont chance this ! or your crown of life will be removed. ref: se the collection fleur de lys (external links). Best regards, Jesus..."  There is a history of an anon user with various IPs spending a lot of time making edits with a religious/mystical flavour. No recent responses from him/her on talk page.    Thanks for looking at this. --HJMG 12:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * warned. Watch for further edits. Petros471 15:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say this is a 3RR if it continues. --Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 17:45, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Archived. This request is outside the scope of this process page; see Administrator intervention against vandalism instead. // [ admin ] Pathoschild (talk/map) 08:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * has caused mischief on the page, When I Come Around. No one has caught him and everyone ignores him. He adds obscure swear words to articles such as penis or gay. This user has possibly been warned over 8 times, and no one blocks him. He is still being silly around Wikipedia. Anyway, thanks for looking at this if you are actually looking. One of his vandals was on this page. I will give the URL. Vandalism by this IP address. This page is an example. Click on the hyperlink and you shall see.]  Thanks. Weirdy 00:26, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Archived. This request is outside the scope of this process page; see Administrator intervention against vandalism instead. // [ admin ] Pathoschild (talk/map) 08:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * - a peculiar mix of legit edits and vandalism (usually simply blanking a comment or part of a page). Seems to be no regular pattern to it, except it's all in the last 36 hours. Have warned. PS - hope I've done this right - this page has got a hell of a lot more complicated recently! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  05:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Archived. I suspect that this is either a tactic to evade detection or administrator intervention, or a shared IP. Since this is an IP editing for the first time, I assume the latter. // [ admin ] Pathoschild (talk/map) 09:23, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Registered users

 * -- The article Iranian Turks was drastically changed back to many revisions earlier by this user since he did not like one or two points. A brief look at his talk page, he seems to be complained about. I have put a protected sign in the article and reverted his edits back. 59.167.0.169 14:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Please see dispute resolution. Please see the note I left on the article talk page re:protection. Petros471 21:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * has crossed the line from a mere content dispute to breaking the rules by deleting without cause my comments to a talk page. Additionally, Merecat is lying about this, and other things, using veiled ad hominems, is gaming the system. Merecat is apparently willing to do whatever it takes to obstruct progress on the rationale to impeach article, including break the rules and hope to slip by. This brazen rule breaking leads me to believe that merecat has been getting away with murder for some time now, and I request that merecat at least be recused from that article, and that whatever the process is to determine whether or not a user should be banned start. Nobody should have to quit adding comments or working on a project because as far as they know, anything they do ill just be deleted without cause. (and obviously and only for the purpose and obviously and only because those comments were inconvenient to merecats case, not because there was any good reason to delete.) Prometheuspan 17:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Merecat
 * The request for comment is receiving quite a lot of attention. If you need a block it would probably be best to post to WP:AN/I (as a block could be controversial) unless you can point to specific edits that are vandalism. Petros471 19:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- I suspect this user is part of the multiple IP vandalism efforts from IP space 80.47.*.* that is vandalizing the Scientology related articles. The two images uploaded by this user are both recently used by the persistent vandals from 80.47.*.* to vandalize the Scientology and David Miscavige articles among many others.  Please check out the edit histories of those two articles.  Note this user has only made one other edit, which was also vandalism to a Scientology-related article // Vivaldi (talk) 18:50, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Tagged the image in question for speedy deletion. Also, it might help to semi-protect Tom Cruise to deter the amount of vandalism that article experiences. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 17:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Archived with no further action at this stage, please re-report any further issues. Petros471 09:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Overloads pages with random strings. . This can only be generated through vandal bot or some other external program. Either way someones first edit being this kind of vandalism prompts indefinate block. This person may be a sockpuppet of MARMOT as he is known to run vandalism bots. Cat chi? 18:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Blocked. Petros471 18:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- The user has made midely disparate (and almost random seeming) vandalism across a number of subjects. As of now, 7 different, unconnected, users have attempted to get him to acknowledge the issue and stop the bad edits, but he has not responded at all (see user's talk page). // Kickstart70 &middot; Talk 16:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
 * He has now attempted to remove the issues on his talk page rather than deal with them. -- Kickstart70 &middot; Talk 02:09, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * A couple more points about this editor: 1) I believe it probable that he's a sockpuppet of a nameblocked user, because on his third day after registration he complained here on Jimbo's talk page about Curp's blocking usenames with "shit" in them. (2) he's edited some pretty fraught areas (espcially around Lolicon and the image deleted by Sam Korn in a really unhelpful way, e.g. "Ya, remove child porn is censorship" (sentiment and illiteracy typical) (3) this diff (both sides) and this block log indicate he's also likely nameblocked user "Child p0rnographer" (which in turn is one of many similar variations on that username, all blocked, used by one person) Herostratus
 * Indef Blocked. Petros471 15:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


 * claims that Rudolf Virchow was a Freemason, spreads and pushes this with with emphasis.

He uses ambiguous sources and although I asked him several times not to do so:
 * Talk:Catholicism and Freemasonry history of the article
 * Talk:Rudolf_Virchow history

Again another claim in an article:
 * Kulturkampf:

He confesses that "that indicates (points to) Virchow being a Freemason" but indication is speculation. He still pushes these unproven claims:

He claims, that I have to proove that these ambiguous sources are not reliable and blames me that I cannot read:

I would be glad if Virchow was a Freemason, but I cannot see a credible proove nor the relevance for these articles. Normally you should be able to mention at least the Lodge where a Mason was initiated. I am from Germany and I have lots of sources to check if somebody was a Freemason in Germany, but although Virchow was mentioned as the creator of the word Kulturkampf and as a friend of some individual Freemasons, he is not listed as a Freemason. There was not even a speculation eg. in contrast to Beethoven or Schiller where we still have no proof. As a Freemason, I have neither the time nor the interest in an edit war so I will no longer revert those non-encyclopedic claims and leave this case to you. But I hope you will be interested in quality like me.

I have the same account in the German Wikipedia with lots of edits and even got an award for my support recently: "Aktion Winterspeck" so I think I should be quite unsuspicious to be unreliable. Perhaps he's even another sockpuppet since JASpencer is a single purpose account and spreads his conspiracy theories against freemasonry like the other accounts? These socks seem to reincarnate faster than they can be blocked. --SGOvD webmaster (talk) 21:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * First I've heard of this. Needless to say that there has been no dispute resolution tried on what is essentially a content dispute as to whether an assertion is properly and reliably sourced.  As for being a sock or a single purpose account, as I have been around since 2003 so the allegations surprise me.  Please let me know of the outcome.  This user has been trying to throw dirt at me because of a series of content disputes.  JASpencer 12:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Could this please be removed as (1) I was not warned and (2) this is a content dispute and there has been no RFC done on this. JASpencer 19:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Archived, per reasons given by JASpencer, which certainly does not appear to be a sockpuppet account. Possibly links for future reference: WP:RFCU and WP:DR. Petros471 20:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- blanked my talk page, reverted the Brand X article with incorrect information, and reverted articles about Brand X albums with patently incorrect and nonsensical information as follows:, , , and . (By the way, it's vandalism if I blank my talk page, so why isn't it vandalism if he blanks my talk page?)   E lkman - (talk) 20:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|16px]] Blocked by Samual Blanning for 24 hours for posting hoaxes in the 22:00 hour of 4/4/06. Vandalous edits have stopped since. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 17:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Xino User Xino has, in essence taken over the Shadow the Hedgehog page, if anyone makes any edit, especially to the Super Shadow section of the page, he reverts the edits and starts either insulting people or threatens to get admin action to ban them. I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, but in my opinion Xino's behavior works against Wiki's ideals. --Zikar 02:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I copyedited and cleaned up the section of that page (Super Shadow) in question, however some of it is unnecessary, such as the list of proof it's really-super-not-hyper-because-i-made-it-a-list. Based upon the result of my actions, I hope a resolution can be found to this conflict. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 08:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I have not seen any edits by Xino since this report. Archiving in 24 hours. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 17:20, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- After an extensive (informal) attempt at dispute resolution (see Talk:Coca tea), created a sockpuppet,  and attempted to re-introduce advertising content (identified by CheckUser). Based on the edits made, this user appears to be yet another sockpuppet of Joestieg. Joestieg has been warned repeatedly under both of the first two identities and should probably be banned. // Choess 04:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I would like to add to what Choess said that the attempt to insert advertising content began with . All accounts/ips have in common the insertion of links to "perutea.com". // Veyklevar 05:29, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I would like to add that since Choess reported this, Jake Scorpio has twice altered or deleted comments from the Coca tea talk page mentioned above. And also, since this is such a convoluted situation with multiple sockpuppets, my notes on what happened might prove helpful. -- Veyklevar 14:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This needs an admin with the power to issue blocks to take a look at this. Petros471 20:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Veyklevar started this edit war and constantly deletes useful information that users are adding to the coca tea page. Despite warnings and a discussion, he responds with personal attacks and more vandalism. He also violated the three-revert rule (please see history page of coca tea) Thanks for your attention to this matter.-- Ukiemob 14:26, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Now one of the known sockpuppets, namely, seems to be going through my contributions and gratuitously reverting random copy-edits and spelling fixes that I've made. See Pahang, Airport Core Programme, and Zhang_Guotao. -- Veyklevar 04:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Is this still an issue? If so, this belongs on WP:AN/I. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 21:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * This may be a dead issue. I can't speak for Choess, but I personally haven't witnessed any suspicious activity for days. —Veyklevar 23:16, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Archived. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 17:34, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * ( repeatedly blanking comments at Talk:Dennis Brown and on Dennis Brown relating to (now passed away) Brown's cocaine addiction. Has been warned by 2 separate users, SqueakBox 12:45, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|16px]] A very clear 3RR. I was about to move it over to the 3RR board, but opted against it. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 08:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * He's done it again, blanking sections of the article and talk page. It is getting very tiring reverting all the time...Reggaedelgado 21:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] I've given him a final warning. If he continues to add nonsense to the article, a post should be made on WP:AN/I. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 17:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Article was semi-protected for two days after this user made one of his usual edits on 4/9. Also created a sockpuppet for abusive purposes which has been blocked indefinately. If this continues, find an instance of 3RR and block. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 14:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * User was blocked for 24 hours on April 9th and has been contributing to discussion on the article's talk page ever since. Looks like our work here is done. Archived. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 17:38, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- Keeps adding a link to a looney conspiracy theory to Antony and Cleopatra despite multiple people removing it. 68.166.50.142 13:06, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * This report is concerning matters no less than 10 days old. Please unarchive this if it continues. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 14:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * There is a complex pattern of vandalism going on at the Dalip Singh page (history) -- a good number of IP addresses are showing up and inserting (among other things) the text "HE KILLED A GUY!" These IP addresses have been warned repeatedly, and, once warned, the text starts coming from another IP. The IPs involved so far (from most recent to least recent):
 * -- AOL IP
 * -- [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|15px]] Blocked for 48 hours.
 * -- AOL IP
 * -- [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|15px]] Blocked for 48 hours.
 * -- [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|15px]] Blocked for 48 hours.
 * -- [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|15px]] Blocked for 48 hours.

Others include Wikipedia users ( Indefinitely blocked) and. And that's just in the last two hours! The page history shows that this has apparently been going on since 2138 UTC on 7 April 2006. Yansa 04:59, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I suspect the person may be using open proxies to make these edits. I have copied these IPs to WP:OP for further investigation. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 07:01, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Proxy scans came back negative. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 14:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- He keeps on posting nonsense information to the Saw III article. He has been reverted a number of times and has been warned by other people yet he keeps on persisting. // CyberGhostface 10:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * [[Image:symbol oppose vote.svg|15px]] Recieved a block on 4/6 for 3RR on another movie's article. If this continues like it is, find an instance of 3RR and he can be blocked for that. --<b style="color:#22AA00;">Zsinj</b><sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 14:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Following are all probably related (sockpuppets) to the 3RR ban of User:The Psycho here: -- Kickstart70 - T - C 23:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Adding a new [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Gay Nigger Association of America (12th nomination)|GNAA VfD] (keep it short)
 * as well as:


 * , continuing where AncorZonr left off after the page was sprotected
 * possibly, an aol ip, but no checkuser has been done --He:ah? 23:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Moved from AIV by JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:45, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * There seems to be some computer hopping by a vandal at Malvern Preparatory School]. The IPs seem all in a series:

They seem to insert and delete nonsense text. The IPs are from Wake Forest University. It could be one guy in the library or a group of them in the dorms. Bucketsofg 12:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * -- This user repeatedly removes a certain category from the subcategory . After several attempts to explain that user shouldn't impose political POVs failed, and since the user has at least one 3RR violation record, an admin has protected the category but not in its original state (mistakenly?). User's reason is that the subcategory remained several months until a user added the category, in addition to other comments in the talk page. - Eagletalk 14:54, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Now on WP:RFAr. In the meantime in another third party wants to take a look at Category talk:Egyptian Americans and help reach a consensus... Petros471 16:39, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Arbitration was rejected. I've unprotected the category for now, as it has been a while with no discussion. Petros471 10:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)