Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/ITESM Campus Toluca/Appleteam

Hello Appleteam. If you would like, I can be your mentor. I have been around for over a year, and I have wanted to start helping others around here. I actually already have one adoptee, but I think I can handle a few more. Let me know if you'd like me to help.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 22:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Welcome! (We can't say that loudly enough!)
Hello, Appleteam, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay past the end of your project. Here are some pages you might find helpful:
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If you have any questions or problems, no matter what they are, leave me a message on my talk page. Or, please come to the Mentors page, where you can find many experienced Wikipedians that can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {&#123;helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.

We're so glad you're here! Rockpock e  t  17:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey guys! ¡Bienvenidos! ¿Necestan ayuda? Puedes hábleme Gracias, y buena suerte!  A r k y  ¡Hablar!  19:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, hey, this is the English Wikipedia! :)  J- stan  Talk Contribs 20:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello im one of the girls on Appleteam. I´ve already created my user page. User:Pinkapple4 17:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)pinkapple4 Hello im another girl on Appleteam. I´ve already created my user page. User:Blueapple23 18:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)blueapple23 Hello im a member of Appleteam. I´ve already created my user page. User:Greenapple18 18:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Greenapple18 Hello I'm another member of Appleteam. I´ve already created my user page.User:WhiteApple14 18:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)WhiteApple14

Links
Put links on your project page to your individual user pages. See Lirdoco's page as an example. Thanks! Thelmadatter 18:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Thelmadatter

Mentoring
Glad to be mentoring you. First of all, I'll need your usernames. Then we can get down to business.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 19:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Its not obvious but their usernames are above. Ladies... you need to move all this to your discussion page. Thelmadatter 20:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Thelmadatter
 * OK, then, let's get down to business. First of all, if you haven't done so yet, add this page to your watchlist. Just click the tab that says "watch", and it will automatically add it. Watchlists are a great way to check up on edits that are being made to certain pages. Now, please read the five pillars of Wikipedia. All policies, guidelines, and your edits follow these. They are the fundamental principles of Wikipedia. Next, in addition to the pages User:Rockpocket left in their welcome message, you might want to take a look at the simplified ruleset before delving into the individual policies and guidelines (note: there are also "essays", but there are too many of those, and they also aren't official rules to be followed). Once you do that, let me know on this page.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 02:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You mean you're watching this page :) Editing is pretty straightforward in itself: click "edit this page" at the top of the page and add content. But then there are rules, and you are reading them. If you want information on how to use talk pages, go to Talk page guidelines. That pretty much covers your comment on my page. Also, if you're already logged in, you don't need to type your username after the signature, as typing the four tildes adds your username and the current time. However, if you aren't logged in, you should probably log in before you edit. I noticed this in the 100 word essay on Thelmadatter's talk page. J- ſtan ! TalkContribs 00:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Mentoring
Hello Appleteam, I'm Neranei. I just wanted to let you know, that, if you want, I'd be happy to mentor you. Please tell me what you think! Love, Ne ra n e i   (talk) 23:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Reminder to Mentors and Students
Please remember to do all communication concerning work related to the course on this discussion page. It is the only page I can monitor and give students credit for doing their work. Thank you!!! Thelmadatter 13:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Topics that we are interested in
We are interested in writing about Mexicans states specifically in Cancun, Quintana Roo Mexico. We want to focus on the touristics places, beaches, enterteinment, sightseeings. We find this State is very important for Mexican economy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueapple23 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What you might want to do is google your subject, and you should find some travel guides. Write that info in your own words, and it should be ok. Some reading you might want to take a look at is Your first article, and also WP:NOT, so that you won't create something that could be deleted. J- ſtan ! TalkContribs 18:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Nav Bar
I assume this is appleteam's doing :) (please remember to sign in, guys). Well, it appears you already have a nav bar in your page. J- ſtan ! TalkContribs 22:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion for discussion
The three contributions that students need to do next partial (~October) is to significantly edit an article, create a stub and translate an article from English Wikipedia for Spanish Wikipedia. Mentors, if you would be so kind as to look over the WikiProject_Mexico, WikiProject_Mexico and Category:Mexico_stubs pages to help students discuss and select projects to do in October. For more information, see the School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Syllabus page. Thank you! Thelmadatter 13:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Does it have to be about mexico? because the students could take a look at CAT:STUB to find a subject that interests them and expand on it. J- ſtan ! TalkContribs 00:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Topics
Hello, well we think that the article has to be about Mexico, but we are not sure, we will ask our teacher. We will also chek the link that you gave us. It would be really helful.We were aswering your comments in your talk page, but we think that we have to do all kind of interaction in this group page for now on. Thank you!Blueapple23 00:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)Blueapple23

comments left on mentors userpages

 * Please copy whatever comments you left on your mentor's page over to this one so I can give you credit for the contact. Please make sure everything is in chronological order. Thelmadatter 18:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Userboxes
Adding userboxes to your user page is one of the easiest things to do! All you have to do is find a userbox you like. For example: Now, you click the "edit this page" button, and find the template (it should look like this:, where x is the name of the template). Just highlight it, hit CTRL+C to copy it (do not cut), and go back to the previous page. Sounds complicated, but it really takes about 5 seconds. J- ſtan ! TalkContribs 02:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou
Now we have userboxes!!!. Thank you J-stan. It was very easy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueapple23 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * (EC) You should really only put userboxen on your own userpage :) J- ſtan ! TalkContribs 17:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Anyone else
Is Blueapple23 the only active member? She seems to be the only one I see doing work. J- ſtan TalkContribs 15:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello again
Hi J-stan. We are in the most important part of our assignment in wikipedia, now that we are more familiar with it. We want to thank you for your support and we hope you continue helping us. For our next assignment we will have to make some changes in the "Toluca" article. We will let you know when its done so you can give us feedback. About your comment, we are working as a team but im the one who uploades the comments, but you´ll see more participation from the team members, i promise. Thank you again. Blueapple23 01:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)User:Blueapple23
 * No problem. I was just concerned because I didn't know if thelmadatter is giving out compromised accounts and just not publicizing it as much. I will review your edits when you are finished. J- ſtan TalkContribs 01:57, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi j-stan. We were wondering if you could help us find an article that needs some help. It has to be something about mexico because we live here so we have a certain knowledge and we could contribute to it. I found the article about tamale and about nochebuena(the flower) but i dont know if you have more suggestions. Thank you!Blueapple23 02:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)User:Blueapple23
 * Sure. Stubs are always a good place to start. They are described as articles "containing only a few sentences of text which is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject, but not so short as to provide no useful information." Find a stub (in your case, try Category:Mexico stubs) and expand it. Remember always to source your information, and avoid original research. J- ſtan TalkContribs 02:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi j-stan, thank you for the suggestion. We think we found a good article that needs improvements we think it is a stub also. Its the article about Francisco Gabilondo Soler. If you can please chek it out so you can let us know what you think.Blueapple23 02:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)User:Blueapple23


 * I like this article. It needs organization, citations and better information. Thelmadatter 13:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Work we are doing in the Economy section of the Toluca Article
Airport

Toluca has an International Airport called Adolfo Lopez Mateos. This Airport has started a development process impulse by the Federal and State Government, as well as the support of the private sector, with a private inversion that will reach into the next 2 years to 3,200 millions. This Airport has generated to the moment 4,500 direct jobs and has contributed to increase the commercial activity, also it has brought the attention of many clients who live in Mexico city that now prefer to come to Toluca Airport, which represents migration in potential consumers of 2.2 millions of passengers in 2007 expecting for 2008 5 millions, this will take Toluca Airport as the 4th most important in the country. The airport has a big road of 4200 m and it is located in the central part of Mexico, 15 km away from Toluca and 60 km away from the country’s capital serving as an airport of Mexico city. Sources: Secretaria of Comunication and Transportation, Direccion General de Aeronauticas (DGAC).

Industrial Zone

Before 1944, so many industries settled in Toluca compared with other Mexican counties. In 1965, some industries took the risk to settle[d] on the industrial zone of Toluca-Lerma-Tianguistenco, that is located on the north side of [the] Mexico-Toluca highway and railroad. This city is an important industrial center because geographically it is located in the heart of                                            the economic activity of the center of the country. Industries and commerce of big infrastructure that produce drinks, food, textil[e]s, cars, electric products, etc are an example of what we can find in this city which is considered of one of the most develop of the country. Toluca [also] has a [large] infrastructure in highways that communicate the city with the main cities of the country, Toluca’s International Airport, Bus Station and a big center of industrial Parks like: •	Corredor Industrial Toluca. In which there are: Nestlé, Chrysler, Pfyzer, Mercedes Benz, Cervecería Cuauhtemoc Moctezuma, Coca Cola Femsa, etc. •	Parque Industrial Lerma: Mané, Abba, Corn products, Barcel, Leiner Davis, Warner jenkinson, etc. •	Parque Industrial El Coecillo: Bimbo, Nissan, Crisa, Optima, etc •	Parque Industrial Toluca 2000: General Electric, Morton, Alpla, Innopack, Bardahl, Chupa Chups, etc (you don't need to list these, maybe mention a few notable ones)
 * This is all very good. You've done your homework! Just remember your sources and external links. Content you add must be verifiable, otherwise it will be removed. Your edits don't need to be perfect, because Wikipedia allows others to correct factual or grammatical inaccuracies, but I made a few changes to them. J- ſtan TalkContribs 03:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Changes on industrial zone part of the Toluca Article
Before 1944, many industries settled in Toluca compared with other Mexican counties. In 1965, some industries settled on the industrial zone of Toluca-Lerma-Tianguistenco, that is located on the north side of Mexico-Toluca highway and railroad. This city is an important industrial center because geographically it is located in the heart of the economic activity of the center of the country. Industries and commerce of big infrastructure that produce drinks, food, textil[e]s, cars, electric products, etc are an example of what we can find is found in this city which is considered of one of the most develop of the country. (doesn't belong here, I'm sure it can be added to the intro or something) Toluca has a [large] infrastructure in of highways that communicate the city with the main cities of the country, Toluca’s International Airport, Bus Station and a big center of many industrial Parks, in which there are lots of important companies, such as Mercedes Benz, Coca Cola Femsa, Bimbo, Nissan, and Nestle. (Gobierno del Estado de Mexico) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueapple23 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent! I mad ejust a few grammatical changes, but definitely put this in. Just one thing about the source, make sure you have an actual link, don't just add the source in parentheses. J- ſtan TalkContribs 18:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Im having them do the citation this way for now. I will cover how to do Wikipedia citation style on Monday.  Thats part of the reason they are putting their drafts on their group pages. Thelmadatter 18:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but Wikipedia has citation standards, regardless of your curriculum. They shouldn't place the citations like that if they do add the info, but eventually they should cite it in line with guidelines if they want it to be kept. J- ſtan TalkContribs 19:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Changes
Airport Toluca has an International Airport called Adolfo Lopez Mateos. This Airport has started a development process impulse by the Federal and State Government, as well as the support of the private sector, with a private inversion that will reach into the next 2 years to 3,200 millions. This Airport has generated to the moment 4,500 direct jobs and has contributed to increase the commercial activity, also it has brought the attention of many clients who live in Mexico city that now prefer to come to Toluca Airport, which represents migration in potential consumers of 2.2 millions of passengers in 2007 expecting for 2008 5 millions, this will take Toluca Airport as the 4th most important in the country. The airport has a big road of 4200 m and it is located in the central part of Mexico, 15 km away from Toluca and 60 km away from the country’s capital serving as an airport of Mexico city. Industrial Zone Before 1944, many industries settled in Toluca compared with other Mexican counties. In 1965, some industries settled on the industrial zone of Toluca-Lerma-Tianguistenco, that is located on the north side of Mexico-Toluca highway and railroad. This city is an important industrial center because geographically it is located in the heart of the economic activity of the center of the country. Industries and commerce of big infrastructure that produce drinks, food, textiles, cars, electric products, etc are an example of what is found in this city Toluca has a [large] infrastructure of highways that connect the city with the main cities of the country, Toluca’s International Airport, Bus Station and many industrial Parks, in which there are many important companies, such as Mercedes Benz, Coca Cola Femsa, Bimbo, Nissan, and Nestle. Blueapple23 18:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)User:Blueapple23
 * Very nice job. Information is written well (although don't include the markups I made. I went ahead and took them out, correcting the mistakes), and sources are cited properly. Go ahead and add this. J- ſtan TalkContribs 18:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Stub
Hi J-stan, we havent heard from you lately, we hope you are ok. Now we are working on creating a stub. We want to make it about "Quimera", which is a local event that happens here in Toluca. Do you think its ok?. We hope you can give us suggestions. Thank youBlueapple23 23:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)User:Blueapple23
 * Hey yeah, I'm doing ok. I went on a self enforced wikibreak for a couple of days, but I'm back. So Quimera. It sounds familiar. You will need to back up the information with reliable sources. I think I may have given you this article, but check out WP:RS for guidelines. Also, make sure it lives up to our notability standards. you might want to send it to articles for creation, to preserve your chances of keeping it out of articles for deletion. If you don't have a sandbox, put it in my sandbox so that I can take a look at it. J- ſtan TalkContribs 03:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

We are glad, you are back!!. We have already put our stub proposal in you sandbox. Please let us know what you think. Thank you.Blueapple23 00:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)User:Blueapple23
 * That's a good start. You have some good points. Now just rework it into article form, and let me see what comes of it. J- ſtan TalkContribs 02:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Signing
Please remember that you sign your posts on talk pages, but never in articles. Thank you and happy editing! --Geniac 18:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Final Project
Hello!!. For our final project we have to create a new article. We chose to write about Raul Velasco. Please, mentor and any other wikipedian who want to help us, would be great ! Thank you ! Blueapple23 18:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC)User:Blueapple23
 * Raúl Velasco already exists. You may have to choose something else. --Geniac 19:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Dang! Guys... check Category:Mexico stubs to find a topic!Thelmadatter 00:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Your teacher asked you in the section above to find a different topic because Raúl Velasco already exists. --Geniac 14:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The thing about Raul Velasco, is a Stub. Our teacher approve it.Blueapple23 19:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)User:blueapple23
 * Ok, thanks for letting me know. --Geniac 19:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Draft about the article of Raúl Velasco
Raúl Velasco

Biography
Raúl Velasco Ramirez was born in Celaya, Mexico on April 24 1933. Originating from a low resources family, Velasco started working at an early age. He worked first at his family store, called La Violeta, a small grocery. He also worked as messenger, tractor operator (agriculture machinery), and driver.

When he was very young, he got married to Hortensia Ruiz. They had three children; Raul, Claudia and Arturo. Some years later, he divorced from Ruiz and got married with Dorle Klokow. In this second marriage with Dorle, Karina and Diego were born.

When he was twenty years old, he fulfilled one of his dreams, to move to Mexico City. He started to working as accountant for the National Bank of Mexico. At the same time, his writer spirit began to get influence. He wrote many sport articles then he started writing in a magazine called Novelas de la radio. Furthermore, he wrote for Cine Universal, Cine Novelas and Cine Álbum.

Velasco could place strongly at the spectacle world, when he was recognized as head of the spectacles section of the El heraldo de Mexico newspaper. He also participated in a radio station Radio Variedades. In addition, he started working on the Independent Television of Mexico (TIM) as conductor, first with the program La reseña cinematografica de Acapulco, and then he participated in some open TV programs like Confrontación 68, Media Noche and Domingos espectaculares.

After hard work, on December 13 1969, Siempre en Domingo was born. This program was one of the most popular TV musical programs in history. It was broadcast in the United States, Central and South America, Europe and Asia. It was a program of TELEVISA Company.

With the pass of the time, Velasco had become an international artistic icon. He created some TV shows too. Some of them were Estrellas de los ochenta, Juguemos a cantar, Festival OTI and Galardón a los grandes.

Career
His career started with his first contact with periodism in a sports magazine that was published in Celaya, Guanajato where he wrote articles about frontenis the sport he practiced. At the age of 20, Velasco traveled to Mexico City to work for the magazine Novelas de la radio. After that, he collaborated with Cine Universal, Cine Novelas and Cine Álbum. From these publications, other newspapers came through like Novedades and then El Heraldo, where he was the boss of the entertainment and show section.

Then he entered Televisa, which is one of the biggest and popular companies in Mexico in December 13 of 1969 with the famous program Siempre en Domingo. In 1998, he was fired by Televisa even though his show maintained a high audience because of some differences with his co-workers. Even with the bad relationship with Televisa, the popularity of the conductor make that many important artists make him a tribute for his brilliant career, and also for entering during almost 30 years to all the Mexican homes.

He started as conductor in independent television of Mexico (TIM) with some programs like Medianoche, Domingos espectaculares, Reseña cinematográfica de Acapulco, Confrontación 68 and El tigre.

In 2002, he presented his first book, Reflexiones, para vivir mejor. It is about stories, tales and reflections where the author makes reference to topics of ethics, and essential elements of spiritual life. This book is dedicated to all the people that want to search in their souls all the feelings and values that we have hidden since childhood.

Siempre en domingo
On September 13 1969, a new musical TV show came out, becoming the most popular and traditional in Mexico: Siempre en Domingo (Always on Sunday). This TV show reached fame in USA, Latinoamerica, Asia and Europe.

Siempre en Domingo was a TV show where many artists performed and debuted.

In the beginning, most of the artists performing in Siempre en Domingo were from Spain, Central and South America. However, the TV show was becoming more and more popular that many Mexican singers wanted to performed in Siempre en Domingo.

Velasco, the announcer, encouraged many singers such as Lucía Méndez, Chayanne, Lucero, Emmanuel, Mijares, Gloria Trevi, Timbiriche and more. Moreover, Velasco inspired foreign artists such as Julio Iglesias, Raphael, Miguel Bose and Ricky Martin. Furthermore, he encouraged announcers, commentators, producers, reporters, writers and such. Some of these artists became famous around the world. Many festivals such as OTI, Valores Juveniles (Juvenile’s values), Juguemos a Cantar (Let’s play singing) were promoted.

Later, Siempre en Domingo became the most popular TV show in Latin America. Velasco´s most popular phrase, "patada de la suerte" (lucky kick), sponsored many artists that every Sunday performed in his popular TV show.

Siempre en Domingo had about 420 million television viewers around the world. The roots of the TV show are on the singers, choreographers, recording companies and fans. Thank to Siempre en Domingo the show business throve. When it comes to forming and encouraging singers, Velasco has been fundamental in the singer’s careers. All good things come to and end and Siempre en Domingo closed a chapter in musical history of Spanish-speaking.

Siempre en Domingo was on air until 1998 when Velasco was diagnosed with Hepatitis C.

Some years later, in 2003, the announcer Marco Antonio Regil planned to direct a new TV show similar to Siempre en Domingo, keeping those familiar values and originality. This new musical TV show expected to have popular things and not so popular things in order to maintain happy and satisfied people.

Death and family
Velasco, had developed several heart and liver problems. He had been in the hospital several times, but this last time, he decided to be taken care at home.

On November 26 2006, Velasco died of natural causes at 7:15 am. He was 73 years old. He died surrounded by his family in his house located in Polanco, Mexico City. Velasco´s funeral was a national event. His body was buried in the Panteon Frances, where many fans, artists, and press congregated to give Velasco the last goodbye.

His death impacted not only Mexico, but also Central America and the Caribbean. People from Guatemala, Salvador and Costa Rica showed their concern about the death of the TV host.

Velasco was survived by 3 sons and 2 daughters: Arturo, Claudia, Raul Diego and Karina, who is following his father steps by being a TV host herself. At the time of his death, he had one granddaughter.

Raúl Velasco draft comments
I've corrected some formatting and wording. I added blank lines between paragraphs to space them out a bit. I disabled the refs further up on this talk page when you were working on the Toluca article so they don't appear along with the refs for this most recent work on the Raúl Velasco article. When this text is added to the Raúl Velasco article, please be careful not to overwrite any existing useful text already there. --Geniac 18:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)