Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/ITESM Campus Toluca/Los Boogeys

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We're so glad you're here! Cronholm144 10:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Reminder to Mentors and Students
Please remember to do all communication concerning work related to the course on this discussion page. It is the only page I can monitor and give students credit for doing their work. Thank you!!! Thelmadatter 14:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Mentor needed?
Hello, does this group still need a mentor? If so, reply here to let me know (your teacher has asked that all communication be here for you to get credit). I can't be available every hour of the day, of course, but I will try to answer any questions about editing you have. --Geniac 15:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, we need a mentor and for us, it would be a pleasure to have you as our mentor. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IsaacFE (talk • contribs) 18:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, ok then. :) Once you do these, let me know on this page. If you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time. --Geniac 18:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
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Answer
Thank you Geniac, we have already read the five pillars, but for the moment, we don't have doubts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IsaacFE (talk • contribs) 23:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you mean you don't have any questions at the moment? Please ask here if any of you do, and Johntex or I will answer as soon as we see it. How are you doing following the "Checklist for things to do in Wikipedia" on the Syllabus page? I saw you got a message on your talk page about signing posts. That message was posted by a bot which also automatically signed your above message. Signing posts is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. --Geniac 12:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply to question on my talk page

 * I am also to be your mentor, also. Please let me know how I can help.  Also, I am mentoring Los Pancakes, so you may want to also look at their page Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/ITESM Campus Toluca/Los Pancakes for tips I just gave them.  Best, Johntex\talk 22:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion for discussion
The three contributions that students need to do next partial (~October) is to significantly edit an article, create a stub and translate an article from English Wikipedia for Spanish Wikipedia. Mentors, if you would be so kind as to look over the WikiProject_Mexico, WikiProject_Mexico and Category:Mexico_stubs pages to help students discuss and select projects to do in October. For more information, see the School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Syllabus page. Thank you! Thelmadatter 14:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Question
My group is going to talk about translate and we don't know how to send a request for translate an article that we found.For example: If I found an article of spiders, How I can send a request for translate that article. I can't find how to do that in the wikipedia: translation/How to translate Can you help us please?, thank you. IsaacFE (talk • contribs) 23:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)--IsaacFE 23:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Translation is only for translations of articles in non-English Wikipedias into English. Is the article about spiders you found on a non-English Wikipedia, or is it a non-Wikipedia article you found on somebody's web page? --Geniac 13:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

100 word assignment
Diego, I saw that you posted this assignment to your teacher's talk page; that's good. When you post to a talk page, please sign your name by typing ~ ; our software automatically converts it to your username and the date. Do you have any questions at the moment? --Geniac 12:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Help with mentors
We need other mentor for our project if somebody is interested, please put the information at the project page. We will be very greatful with the help. Diego Callejas 23:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Geniac and Johntex
Hi mentors! we need another person who be interested in be our mentor. Do you know anyone?. And we need to find a wikipedian who is in a University right now. If you know someone please tell him/her that she could answer us in this disscusion. I request this because some wikipedians warned me that it is innapropiately send message to everyone even thought I was polite with them (sincerely I didn't understand why). They told me if I still do that they will be block me for editing. Thank you. --IsaacFE 22:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * For more mentors, see the Mentors page. I am currently in university right now. What type of questions did you have? See Canvassing. Although what you describe doesn't sound exactly like canvassing by the definition in the guideline, some people may consider sending messages to lots of people, even politely, a form of canvassing. --Geniac 22:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you please tell us in what university you are?--IsaacFE 23:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm currently attending Seton Hill University for Accounting. I'm due to graduate next May. --Geniac 23:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, guys! I'm Arknascar44, but you can call me Arky. I'd be glad to help mentor you [[Image:Face-grin.svg|25px]] I've added my name to the "Mentors" section on your team page, and if you have any questions, I'd be glad to help you. Cheers,  ARkY //  ¡HaBLaR!  02:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * For more mentors, I would suggest any of the following:
 * User:BQZip01, he attended Texas A&M University.
 * User:jareha, he currently attends University of Texas at Austin
 * User:Karanacs, she attended Texas A&M University
 * User:Nmajdan, he attended University of Oklahoma
 * User:Mecu - University of Colorado
 * I don't know if they will have time to help you, but you can ask. You can tell them that I recommended them as highly talented editors who are a joy to work with. Johntex\talk 01:39, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Work we are doing on the History section of the México (state) page
History

Pre-Hispanic

There were several codices about history, religion, tribute’s administration, cartography (maps) from XVI century. Also the codices were images. For example: Tlacotepec, codice de Xilotepec, codice de Tezcoco-Acampan. There were different ethnic groups like otomies, matlazincas, mazahuas, chichimecas, etc. Some of the more important emperors were Cuauhtitlan, Tezozomoc, Azcapotzalco, Tlalmanalco, Opochihuacan and Xaltocan. Toluca was conquered by the Mexicas. The Mexicas had to fight against Azcapotzalco.

Mexicas = Aztecas

Colonial Period.

In the first Spaniard’s incursions to the State of Mexico were leads by Andrés de Tapia. Who in 1520 destroyed the population of Malinalco. Later Gonzálo de Sandoval arrived to Toluca’s Valley and put down to the Matlazincas. Because the Matlazincas were allied with the Aztecs. After the fell of the Aztec empire some mazahuas were recluted to rebuild Tenochtitlán. Diego Callejas 00:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you want advice or help with anything? --Geniac 18:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes we need help and advices
Would you read our propose please, and check our spelling and grammar. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Den-dede (talk • contribs) 20:45, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Work about State of Mexico
History

Pre-Hispanic

There were several codices about history, religion, tribute’s administration, cartography (maps) from the 16th century. Also, the codices were images. For example, Tlacotepec, codice de Xilotepec, codice de Tezcoco-Acampan. (A., M., Ramón)

There were different ethnic groups including otomies, matlazincas, mazahuas and chichimecas. (A., M., Ramón)

Some of the more important emperors were Cuauhtitlan, Tezozomoc, Azcapotzalco, Tlalmanalco, Opochihuacan and Xaltocan. (H.,P., Carlos)

Toluca was conquered by the Mexicas. The Mexicas had to fight against Azcapotzalco. (H.,P., Carlos)

Mexicas = Aztecas

What nowadays is called Mexican State forms part of a cultural area called Mesoamerica characterized for having homogeneous cultural elements in spite of having different languages. People that first arrived to this territory came with………(not finished yet) (Civera, A.)

Colonial period

In the first Spaniard’s incursions to the State of Mexico were leads by Andrés de Tapia. In 1520, he destroyed the population of Malinalco. Later, Gonzálo de Sandoval arrived in Toluca’s Valley and defeated the Matlazincas because the Matlazincas were allied with the Aztecs. After the fall of the Aztec empire, some mazahuas were recruited to rebuild Tenochtitlán. The evangelization began at 1523 in Texcoco by the monk Pedro de Gante, who funded the Padua’s school. In 1524, came the first religion order formed by the franciscanos monks. (Zárate, B.) When Cortez arrived, the conditios of the political situation were on his side. The heirs of the Tetzcoco cown were having a conflict. Cortez took advantage of and conquered what is now the State of Mexico. The Colonial period was when the original inhabitants formed a new world. They established new values, structures and created what now is known as the State of Mexico. This period began with the creation of small villages, territory delimitation, and the most important characteristic: the establishment of the original authority. Since this period, religion was very important. The “dominicos” and “agustinos” left a very deep influence as important as the one the “franciscanos” left. Education was well organized until “Jesus Company” arrived. In the 17th century, the native communities’ culture started to fall apart. It had a strong social impact. In some cases, old sacred places were respected like in Metepec……….. (not finished yet) (Latapí, A)

In 1799, the town of Toluca was determined a city by Carlos V. (Aranda, J.)

In 1810, when the independence was starting, Miguel Hidalgo went to Mexico city. He passed through many towns of Toluca. The people of Toluca joined the movement. On October 24, 1810, Miguel Hidalgo fought against Agustin de Iturbe and won. On October 28, Hidalgo entered Toluca with his army and made the army of Torcuato Trujillo flee. (Gobierno del Estado de México)

From the Revolution to 1990

In this period, State of Mexico’s population increased considerably; to around 12 million inhabitants, and became the state with the largest population. In the State of Mexico's economic transformation during this period, it is important to mention that cohabitation of a dual society; an urban one and a rural one. One of this period’s consequences is the partition of land. The State of Mexico gained from this partition about 800,000 hectares. The first type of industrial investment was done during this period. The State of Mexico with a stock-breeder history, transformed itself into an industrial economic Mexican place. (Ramiréz, A.)--IsaacFE 23:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Mentors
Could you please check our text. Please check grammar and spelling. The Hole idea is right?. --IsaacFE 23:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've checked it for grammar and spelling and added some wikilinks. Hope this helps. One thing I noticed is your citation style. That style is fine for school papers but is not acceptable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia has a citation style guide that should be followed if you wish the text you add to be kept. --Geniac 13:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Ball in a cup
I assume you mean the Ball in a cup article? It is always helpful to wikilink articles you mention them to other users. For example, Ball in a cup produces Ball in a cup. Also, when you post to an article talk page or user talk page, don't forget to sign using four tildes ( ~ ). Den-dede, you asked about adding pictures. My first question is: are they pictures you took yourself? You asked if I had any other ideas. I looked at the article and I noticed there is no history section; how far back in time have people been playing with this type of toy? What were they made of back then? Was it always just a game, or were they used to settle tribal feuds or something? --Geniac 04:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Signing
Please remember that you sign your posts on talk pages, but never in articles. Thank you and happy editing! --Geniac 16:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Help Mentor
We are working in the ball in a cup page, tomorrow we would like to show you our work. In order to have you know recomendations please. Also wer are going to make a stub our topic is bosque de los arboles de navidad, is a forest in State of Mexico and is the biggest forest in Mexico also it does many things in order to help the environment. What do you think? We would like you to help us Den-dede 02:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I look forward to seeing your work on Ball in a cup and the biggest forest in Mexico certainly sounds important and interesting. --Geniac 04:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Translation
We have to translate an article from english to spanish is there some way to know wich articles need traslations? Thanks for your help132.254.101.49 16:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Could you explain what your assignment is further? By the way, don't forget to log in before editing. --Geniac 18:28, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi well we are trying of translate an articule of wikipedia (english to spanish). Our teacher tell us that has to be a short articule. So what kind of article can we translate?. Thanks for your help. Diego Callejas 01:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Just look up any article on any topic that interests you. If the length looks about what you are hoping for, then do that one.  If you want a really short article, look for a "stub".  A "stub" is what we call a really short article.  For instance, the category called Category:Texas stubs will have a lot of short articles on many topics related to Texas.  Category:Mexico stubs contains many short articles related to Mexico. Category:Science stubs has many short articles related to Science, etc.  Johntex\talk 04:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

California wildfires of October 2007
Would anyone hear like to add to California wildfires of October 2007 some information on the related fires in Baja California? Johntex\talk 04:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Work on Ball in a cup
I'm moving the following from my talk page. --Geniac 12:41, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

we would like to add this information

History

This game of skill is called in Castellan "bowling" and it is popularly known as "balero". The game has its origins in France in the sixteenth century. This game was loved by Enrique III, often this frivolous monarch was sawn playing in full public highway. At the death of Enrique III, the game went out of fashion. For 100 years the game was only remembered by some enthusiasts as the Marquis de Biévre, who was known for being so clever in this game.

The game had its golden age during the reign of Luis XV. The elegant people came out with their “bilboquet” made of ivory. Also the actors used to appear with the “bowling” in the scene. Then the game went out of fashion again at least in Europe. This is important because the “bowling” is known in many countries around the world.

Inside Brazil’s rain forest, the indigenous people used to utilize the turtle’s skull like the ball for the “balero”.

The game was reborn around 1910 in France.

Some academies were created in order to teach how to play “balero”. The game became more modern. The shape and the size were boring, so they decided to improve both characteristics. Some of the new forms were “the cup”, “the cube”, “the bottle”, “the hat’s mold”, “the bicycle’s guide”, “feather duster”, etc. The names of the shapes made reference to the object used as the ball.

Also, the sizes were varied. These were from the “horror”, which ball was as big as a watermelon and has a weight of 5kg, to the “Bibí” one, its ball was as little as a cherry and the “costaud” it was made by a little pearl and a handle smaller than a match. It was so easy playing with the “horror” but it was so tiring. As the toy was smaller, it was more difficult playing.

Ball in a cup The ball in a cup (balero) is a ball of 7 centimetres. It is usually made of wood (cedro, sauce, álamo). In the middle of the ball is a hole. The hole can be 4 centimetres deep. The sphere is connected to a large stick by a string of 35 to 40 centimetres. The size of the ball in a cup can change.

Popular culture The ball in a cup is commonly a toy of Latin American countries. The name can change in many countries. In Argentina, Ecuador, Colombia and Mexico, it is called "balero"; in Spain is "boliche"; and in Chile could be "boliche" or "emboque". But in Venezuela is where the game has more names such as "boliche", "perinola" and "juego de la coca".

Gameplay Playing ball in a cup seems to be very easy, but it isn’t. You have to take the stick and let the ball fall. Then you have to toss the ball upward by jerking the arm holding the toy. The main goal of the game is to put the ball in the cup. This game can be played in different ways such as “la simple”, “la doble”, “la vertical”, “la mariquita”, “la puñalada”, “la porteña”. Some tricks that you can do are “capirucho”, “por atrás”, and “media vuelta”.

Also I would like to add a photo of the other type of ball in a cup. The photo is mine. Which is the process i need to follow? Den-dede 01:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I did some minor word and wikilink fixes; more needs done. Regarding pictures, I'm copying the following step-by-step instructions by arky that he posted to the ZYANYA06 team talk page: On Wikipedia, there are a couple rules you must follow in order to add pictures to a page, and rules about what you put on the image's page. These instructions below are for pictures that you have taken yourself.


 * 1) Go to Upload
 * 2) Click the link on the page that says "It is entirely my own work".
 * 3) Scroll down on the page that the link takes you to. In the box that says "Source filename", type the place on your computer the image is at (for example, C://Documents and settings/My documents/My pictures/name of picture). You can click the "browse" button to do this automagically :)
 * 4) The "Destination filename" box should fill up when you have done this.
 * 5) In the large box that says "Summary", type a short description of what the image is.
 * 6) Then, in the drop-down box below, select "GFDL (self made- for things that are entirely your own work"
 * 7) Finally, click "Upload file"
 * I think this answers your question, but if you are uploading an image that you didn't create yourself, just tell me, as the process is completely different for this. --Geniac 13:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Stub
We are los boogeys and our stub is almost ready. We would like to know which is the process to add the stub to wikipedia. Thanks for your helpDen-dede 06:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * To create a new article, type the name you want it to be into the search box in the left column and click "Go". If the search result page says "No page with that title exists. You can create this page or request it", go ahead and click on "create this page" and an editing screen will come up where you can start your new article. Hope this helps. If something doesn't work out, let me know. --Geniac 14:11, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

How to put a reference
Hi we do not know how to put a reference. Anybody can help us?. Thanks.Diego Callejas 02:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * See Help:Footnotes for help on adding references with ref tags. If anything there is not clear, please let me know. --Geniac 12:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

2007 Tabasco flood
Hello, I started 2007 Tabasco flood today. There is a much longer article in Spanish at Inundación de Tabasco y Chiapas de 2007. If anyone wishes to translate/contribute information into the English article it would be appreciated. Johntex\talk 18:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Final Project
Hello mentors we are los boogeys. We are working on the Cosmovitral page. We would like you to take a look to it because we want to know if the format and everything is ok in the page. Thaks for your time Den-dede 19:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Final Article
We think that our article is almost finished Cosmovitral. We would like you to look at it. How does it look? Thanks for your time and for your help.Den-dede 02:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary
Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Geniac (talk) 17:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)