Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/ITESM Campus Toluca/LovelyGirls

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Hi, my name is Irene G. I'm 18 years old, and my major is on Digital Art and Animation. My interest are on Japanese culture, art and animation (lol, hence my major) and i love art expression in general. Hitoko 01:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)Hitoko

Hello, I'm Susy A. I also like this project, I hope is fun. I like contemporary art, poetry, parties, dancing. I could say that my hobby is searching abou women in history. Its my favourite topic because its what we have become. I'm glad that you contacted us. Im sure we will apreciate your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr3tTy 9rl (talk • contribs) 03:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Please remember to do all communication concerning work related to the course on this discussion page. It is the only page I can monitor and give students credit for doing their work. Thank you!!! Thelmadatter 13:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Mentorship
Hello, I'm Neranei, and I noticed that you girls were in need of a mentor. If you want me to, I'd be pleased to mentor you. Just drop me a note on my talk page! Ne ra n e i  (talk)  00:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I am pleased to be your mentor! Could you each introduce yourselves to me? I go by Neranei around here, and I am from the United States. I will post this message on each talk page that you are affiliated with, so you can get my message. Love, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  22:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Irene G. AKA Hitoko (I think I already told you this < <;;). I'm currently in collage studying a major on Digital Arts and Animation. I was born in Mexico City and have lived in several Mexican states. I'm quite enthusiast (although kind of nervous) about this new experience. Hitoko 03:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)Hitoko

hi, my name is mariana, im from mexico, im a marketing student, and i wanna thank you for your help. Hope to hear soon from you.

Hello Irene and Mariana! You're very welcome, I'm pleased to help you. How are your assignments going? Are you having trouble with anything? What would you like my help with? Love, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  02:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Right now we need to define the topic we will be working in. As you can read below, we are planing to write an article about women's history in Mexico; probably focusing on 1968. What do you think about this?: Hitoko 09:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that that is a good idea; perhaps only one article, though, titled something like History of women in Mexico. Tell me what you think! Ne ra n e i   (talk)  12:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, we like that idea. However we want to start by making a stub, do you think we should focus first in a more specified topic than going first for something big, or it isn't that important?--Hitoko 17:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)Hitoko
 * Well, the History of Women article will probably be a big project, so, yes, I would suggest writing a stub on a notable Mexican feminist (presuming that that is the topic you want to write about) or something of the like. Write about what you are interested in, it helps! Love, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  18:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hello. Thank you for contacting us. Yes, we are thinking about writing a new article basing ourselves in other articles. However we think we should start writing a stub about our topic(women in Mexico). Mary ann21 18:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Pr3TtY 9rl


 * I found a few stubs related to Mexican women whom I found interesting:


 * Maria de Lourdes Dieck-Assad
 * Karina Falcon
 * María de los Angeles Fromow
 * Flora Guerrero
 * Amalia Hernández
 * María Teresa Herrera
 * Marisa Canales
 * Olivia Trinidad Arias

I would suggest that you choose one that will have plenty of on-line research material to cite in your article. These could all potentially be expanded into more substantial articles. To create a stub, I would suggest looking at athletes who will be competing in the 2008 Olympics. Many of them probably don't have articles yet. Examples might be:


 * Carolina Valencia
 * Samantha Teran
 * The gymnastics team: Marisela Arizmendi Torres, Maricela Cantú Mata, Yesenia Estrada Martínez, Érika Mariene García Aguiñaga, Elsa García Rodríguez Blancas, and Yeny Ibarra Valdez.

Let me know what you're working on.--Appraiser 18:33, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for the links. I'll be looking through them during the weekend. However, I won’t probably report back until Monday. Hitoko 05:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)Hitoko


 * You might also look at Chicana feminism and History of women in the United States. I know these are articles about the U.S. and not about Mexico but I am mentioning them to illustrate the point that there are no parallel articles about the Mexican counterparts.  There is no article titled Feminism in Mexico, Mexican feminists or History of women in Mexico.  Of course, the articles that do exist about feminism in the United States are disputed and you might expect the analogous articles about Mexico to be disputed as well.  Working on topics that are controversial can be frustrating because what you write is likely to be challenged, deleted and otherwise trampled upon.  Nonetheless, I think these are important articles that need to be written.  Are you game to take on this challenge?
 * --Richard 05:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I think that it is a good idea to write an article about the history of women in Mexico. We have plenty of informatión. For example the law. When did we gain vote or how did the laws were written. We can do it also from literature or with the things that women have done. For example in MEXICO 68 there were many women participating and defending their rights. There is a book called "Plaza de los sacrificios" that talks about that. As I said there is plenty of informatión. What kind of information do you recomend?Pr3tTy 9rl 01:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)Pr3tTy 9rl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pr3tTy 9rl (talk • contribs)

Suggestion for discussion
The three contributions that students need to do next partial (~October) is to significantly edit an article, create a stub and translate an article from English Wikipedia for Spanish Wikipedia. Mentors, if you would be so kind as to look over the WikiProject_Mexico, WikiProject_Mexico and Category:Mexico_stubs pages to help students discuss and select projects to do in October. For more information, see the School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Syllabus page. Thank you! Thelmadatter 14:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I think that it is a good idea to write an article about the history of women in Mexico. We have plenty of informatión. For example the law. When did we gain vote or how did the laws were written. We can do it also from literature or with the things that women have done. For example in MEXICO 68 there were many women participating and defending their rights. There is a book called "Plaza de los sacrificios" that talks about that. As I said there is plenty of informatión. What kind of information do you recomend?Pr3tTy 9rl 01:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)Pr3tTy 9rl


 * You could use History of women in the United States as a model. A shorter article with narrower scope is Women's suffrage in New Zealand.  --Richard 15:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the links, we will be looking at them really soon and probably start creating an outline to see what to research for. We will be contacting you soon.--Hitoko 17:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)Hitoko

Work we are doing on the Art and culture (museums) section of the Toluca page
Museums of Toluca.

Toluca, being the capital of the State of Mexico, is home to several important state museums. Some of them honor important Mexican artists such as José María Velasco Gómez, Felipe Santiago Gutiérrez, and Luis Nishizawa, among others. These museums are the following:

•	Museo de Bellas Artes (Museum of Fine Arts). Founded in 1945 by the ex-governor Isidro Fabela. It is the oldest museum of Toluca. It displays art by José Juarez, Cristobal de Villalpando, Miguel Cabrera, etc.

•	Museo de Ciencias Naturales (Museum of Natural Sciences). Located in Matlatzinca’s Park since 1971. Founded by the ex-governor Carlos Hank González. It presents expositions related to natural sciences. Also it holds Luis Camarena González’s collections of butterflies, insects, mammals and crustaceans.

•	Museo de la Estampa (Stamp museum). Dedicated since 1987 to graphic art. It exposes lithographic, xylographic, chalcographic, serigraphic, offset and neographic art from Manuel Manilla, José Guadalupe Posada, Carlos Alvarado Lang, Alfredo Zalce, Rufino Tamayo, etc. It has 7 display rooms and an embossing workshop.

•	Museo de la Acuarela (Watercolor museum). Founded in 1993. It has rooms dedicated to mexican watercolorists like Pastor Velázquez, Vicente Mendiola, Edgardo Coghlan, Ignacio Barrios and Ángel Mauro. It also has a Estado de México room which holds the national watercolor contest’s pieces.

•	Museo de la Numismática (Coin museum). Founded in 1987 by the states government in order to show Mexican history’s evolution through out coins. It is one of a kind in Latin America. The collection of bills is very important because of its antiquity.

•	Museo José María Velasco (José María Velasco museum). Founded in honor of the most famous plastic artist of the XIX century. At holds about 40 art pieces from José María Velasco as well as academic drawings oil paintings. It has a library and a central patio where cultural events are hold.

•	Museo Felipe Santiago Gutiérrez (Felipe Santiago Gutiérrez museum). This museum shares a room of Mexican paintings from the XIX century with José María Velasco’s museum. It has a set of 225 oil paintings, watercolor paintings and drawings which reflects Gutiérrez evolution as an artist.

•	Museo-Taller Luis Nishizawa (Luis Nishizawa workshop-museum). Founded in honor of the great plastic artist, Luis Nishizawa in 1992. It has 7 display rooms, a library specialized in art and an information center.

•	Museo de arte moderno (Museum of modern art). It holds a great collection of mexican paintings of the XX and XXI centuries. The pieces of art come from other museums like Bellas Artes as well as from artist and institution’s donations. Some of the artists are Gilberto Navarro, José Luis Cuevas, Siqueiros, Leopoldo Flores, etc.

•	Museo de culturas populares (Museum of popular cultures). It displays a wide/large collection of popular culture. For example it can be found wood, textiles, bones, regional candy, glass, seeds, etc. It also has a room of popular art where regional candies, traditional cuisine, popular toys, etc are exposed.

•	Museo de Antropología e Historia (Museum of Antropology and Histrory). It has a set of more than 1000 pieces, an introductory room, five archeological rooms, seven ethnographic rooms and one history room. Its theme is Mexican society’s presence through out historic and geographic evolution, as well as the geopolitical and strategic importance of the state of Mexico.

•	Museo universitario Leopoldo Flores (Leopoldo Flores museum)

What do you think now? is it better?

Pr3tTy 9rl 00:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)Pr3tTy 9rl

Pr3tTy 9rl 18:26, 4 October 2007 (UTC)Pr3tTy 9rl


 * Hello guys, it looks pretty good! I copyedited it for clarity, spelling, and grammar. Two things you will need to do before you post this: You need to find references, I will help you format them if you need it. The second thing is to wikilink the important things by putting square brackets around the articles you want to link to, like this . Hope this helps! Ne ra n e i   (talk)  19:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I have wikilinked the artists mentioned in the text. As you will note, there are several redlinks which means that Wikipedia does not have an article with that name.


 * --Richard 20:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Much better! Love, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  00:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Signing
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Stub
Hi, we already have the draft of our stub, could you please revise it and tell us your opinion? (the source will be posted a little bit later). It is about women's role in mexico at 1968.

Women played an important role in the Social Movement of Mexico 68. During this time IPN and UNAM’s students supported some socialist ideas. This pushed the government to repress the students in order to avoid any further retaliation. Another factor that lead to this repression was that the Olympic Games were going to take place in Mexico that year. The government wanted to give a good impression to the world and socialism was unacceptable to the powerful countries at that time. Before the repression, there were some student’s groups that gave women the opportunity to participate actively in this social movement. Because of this, feminist ideas started to arise and get stronger. During this time, the government believed in women’s inferiority. This is why on October 2nd, 1968 women were not repressed and sanctioned as men, giving women the chance to continue with the movement. One of the important feminist groups was “Las Panchas Pomposas”.

--Hitoko 02:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Um, a bit of work is needed in terms of organizing the flow of the article. I think it will take a bit of rethinking to figure out how to lay out all the points in a logical and coherent way.  Let's take some time to reflect on how best to do that. --Richard 04:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Let's see if this is any better.
 * Women played an important role in the Social Movement of Mexico 68. During this time, IPN and UNAM’s students supported some socialist ideas. This pushed the government to repress the students in order to avoid these ideas to spread into any more people, getting the situation out of control. Also, the Olympic Games were going to take place in Mexico that year. The government wanted to give a good impression to the world and socialism was unacceptable to the powerful countries at that time. Before the repression, there were already some student’s groups that gave women the opportunity to participate actively in this social movement. Because of this, feminist ideas started to sprout and grow stronger. During this time, the government officials tended to focus on men in the movement, discounting the significance of the role that woman played at that time. As a result of this prejudice, men became the target of the government during the crackdown of October 2nd, 1968, leaving women behind. This gave female members the opportunity to keep the movement ongoing, shaping its direction in the ensuing years.


 * One of the most important feminist groups was “Las Panchas Pomposas”.--Hitoko 15:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Or what about this one?
 * Women played an important role in the Social Movement of Mexico 68. During this time, IPN and UNAM’s students supported some socialist ideas. Also, the Olympic Games were going to take place in Mexico that year. The government wanted to give a good impression to the world and socialism was unacceptable to the powerful countries at that time. This pushed the government to repress the students in order to avoid these ideas to spread into any more people, getting the situation out of control. Before the repression, there were already some student’s groups that gave women the opportunity to participate actively in this social movement. Because of this, feminist ideas started to sprout and grow stronger. During this time, the government officials tended to focus on men in the movement, discounting the significance of the role that woman played at that time. As a result of this prejudice, men became the target of the government during the crackdown of October 2nd, 1968, leaving women behind. This gave female members the opportunity to keep the movement ongoing, shaping its direction in the ensuing years.


 * One of the most important feminist groups was “Las Panchas Pomposas”.--Hitoko 15:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Retaliation

 * In the meantime, let me ask what you meant by "This pushed the government to repress the students in order to avoid any further retaliation." What do you mean by "retaliation"?  This doesn't make any sense to me.  Perhaps you could write in Spanish what you meant to say and we can suggest a better way to express it in English.  --Richard 04:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "El gobierno se vio obligado a reprimir este movimiento para evitar que las ideas socialista fuesen a llegar a más gente, haciendo que la situación se saliera de control."--Hitoko 15:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Arise and get stronger
I feel that "arise and get stronger" is somehow not colloquial. "take root and sprout" or "take hold and grow stronger" are perhaps more colloquial ways of saying this. Just out of curiousity, how would you have written this in Spanish? --Richard 05:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * In Spanish we would have written something like: "Por lo que las ideas feministas empezaron a surgir y a tomar fuerza".

--Hitoko 15:17, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Women' inferiority
There is something that doesn't feel quite right about the phrasing of the sentence "the government believed in women’s inferiority". I would write "government officials tended to focus on the men in the movement and, as a result, discounted the significance of the women in the movement".

Then I would continue by saying something like "As a result of this prejudice, the male members of the movement were targeted more than the female members were during the government crackdown of October 2nd, 1968. Thus, the male members tended to be the ones who were rounded up leaving the female members behind.  This gave the female members the opportunity to rise in the leadership of the movement and shape its direction in the ensuing years." I have made some educated guesses here and so what I wrote may not be quite correct. Obviously, you know the subject matter and I don't, so feel free to correct what I wrote if it is not accurate.

--Richard 05:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Article improvement
For the article's improvement, we will focus on the article of Metepec by creating a subsection about its history. We have the following information, shall we include more, or like this is fine?


 * History
 * The Matlatzincan group settled themselves in the territory of Metepec during the splendor of the Teotihuacan culture, reaching its best in 1120 and 1450. In 1470, the Aztecan Empire repressed the Matlatzincan lords, giving the actual name of Metepec to the territory. However, it was not until 1526, that the ceremonies and the rites were obliterated by the Spanish friars who arrived to Metepec that year. Hence, the catholic foundation took place that year as well, giving the name of “San Juan Bautista Metepec” to Metepec. Finally in 1821 the municipality of Metepec was created, however this title was not approved until 1827. --Hitoko 16:34, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) "splendor of the Teotihuacan culture" is a peacock phrase.  I would suggest "peak", "height" or "apex" instead of "splendor".
 * 2) Use Aztec Empire instead of Aztecan Empire; don't ask me why, it's just more colloquial.
 * 3) Use "arrived in" or "arrived at", not "arrived to". Use "in" for a region or country as in "arrived in the United States".  Use "at" for a specific location as in "arrived at the Great Pyramid of Tenochtitlan".  For a city like Metepec, it's unclear which is better.  I think I would prefer "arrived at" but "arrived in" could work also.
 * 4) I don't quite know what you mean to say by "catholic foundation". Perhaps the "establishment of the Catholic religion"?
 * 5) I also don't quite know what you mean by "this title was not approved". Approved by whom?  The King of Spain?  The Viceroy?  There is almost certainly a legal term for what you are describing.  Can you provide the Spanish equivalent so I can better offer an English translation?
 * This "approved by whom" question highlights the reason why use of the passive voice (e.g. "was approved") is discouraged. When people use the passive voice, there is a tendency to omit who did it.  Also, passive voice sentences are weaker in assertion than active voice.  If you can, try to write something like "It was not until 1827 that the Viceroy of New Spain recognized Metepec".  (assuming that is what happened)

--Richard 17:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, I made some changes to the article:
 * The Matlatzincan group settled themselves in the territory of Metepec during the peak of the Teotihuacan culture, reaching its best in 1120 and 1450. In 1470, the Aztec Empire repressed the Matlatzincan lords, giving the actual name of Metepec to the territory. However, it was not until 1526, that the ceremonies and the rites were obliterated by the Spanish friars who arrived in Metepec that year. Hence, the establishment of the Catholic religion in the region took place that year as well, giving the name of “San Juan Bautista Metepec” to Metepec. Finally in 1821 the municipality of Metepec was created, however this title was not approved by the state’s government until 1827.


 * The spanish equivalent of "in 1821 the municipality of Metepec was created, however this title was not approved by the state’s government until 1827" is: "En 1821 se crea el Municipio de Metepec, categoría política que es ratificada en 1827".

--Hitoko 21:38, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * "categoría política", eh? Well, I learned something today.  However, the problem is that there isn't an obvious translation for the phrase.  The literal translation is "political category" but there isn't a smooth, idiomatic translation for it in English.  If I absolutely had to translate it, I would try something like "governmental classification" but that's so vague that it's almost meaningless.


 * Instead, I would suggest "The municipality of Metepec was created in 1821 although this was not ratified by the government of the state of X until 1827."


 * Also, I don't much care for the phrase "reaching its best". "reaching its apex" might be better.  and say "between 1120 and 1450" rather than "in 1120 and 1450".  "between 1120 and 1450" translates to "desde 1120 hasta 1450" whereas "in 1120 and 1450" translates to "en 1120 y en 1450".


 * --Richard 01:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * All right, thank you very much for the suggestions. And about the stub, is it better like my last example or you think I should still reorganize the ideas? --Hitoko 02:01, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Pr3tTy 9rl 05:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Article
I know that we told you that we were going to make an article about women in Mexico, specifically during Mexico 68. However, while we were investigating we decided to expand our research to the Social Movement of Mexico 68, including information about women as a subheading. We just wanted you to know, in order for you to stay current on our progress. In a couple of days we will probably upload our draft, we hope you could take a look at it by then. --Hitoko 00:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi here is owr draft about Mexico 68. Could you chek it please?

Context The world During this time, the Cold War caused an ideological revolution around the world. Society was going to tolerate injustice no more. With the introduction of The Pill, a sexual liberation aroused giving place to feminism. Also, the hippie movement gave place to a “peace and love” ideology; adapted by students world wide, who tried to expand it into society. These were some of the reasons why around the globe many student’s movements, took place, showing their dissatisfaction against the social situation.

Mexico Social There was an ideological clash between adults and young adults, caused by the different generations to which they belonged. The new generations were open minded to innovation and believed in a bright future; while the previous generations found themselves unprepared to accept all this new ideas. Because of this ideological clash, the new generations were repressed by the previous one. This gave place all these young adults’ movements.

Political There was a freedom restriction and a constant abuse of power. Mexico, like the rest of the world, was in the presence of two clashing ideologies: socialism and capitalism; which gave place to internal conflicts.

Economic There was a quick urbanization and industrialization, mostly in Mexico City and Guadalajara. Olympic Games In this year, the Olympic Games took place in Mexico, becoming the first developing country to host this event. This represented an important income to the country because of the tourists who came to the Olympic Games. Also, giving a good impression to the world could lead to the introduction of international stakeholders. However, the students were against these ideals. They did not want Mexico to be recognized world wide; they rather preferred a revolution, giving place to the reformation of their country: “No queremos Olimpiadas, queremos revolución.”

The movement Purpose With all these repressions and constant injustices going on in the country and in the world in general, the newest generations decided to take justices by hand. They did no longer were going to let themselves get oppressed and started to react. Adults decided to reject everything that was beyond their scope, classifying it as prohibited, incorrect and unmoral. Young adults, especially collage students, became attracted to all these prohibitions making them want to break these rules. Many of these student’s movements had the purpose to show their dissatisfaction with their society, trying to create a world or a place to call home. Also, this discomfort was transmitted to music, in which many young adults could find themselves identified.

October 2nd During mid-1968, students’ movements started to arise and become stronger and more violent, up to the point where the government had to step in. However, these meetings were usually under control, up until October 2nd, 1968. At 5 o’clock in the Plaza de las Tres Culturas in Santiago Tlatelolco, almost 10 thousand men, women and children were standing, waiting for the meeting to start. However, when the leaders of the several students’ organizations and movements arrived, the policemen, the army and the firemen, sent by president Diaz Ordaz and commanded by Luis Echeverria, decided to dissolve the meeting. A student claims that at about 6:10 a helicopter dropped three flashlights over the plaza, giving place to the first gunshots. People succumbed into panic, and everyone started running to save their lives. However, no one came to their rescue. The rest of the city decided to either not care or pretend indifference towards these students; after all they were just ‘ignorant kids who thought the city belonged to them’. The intense fire lasted for about 30 minutes, diminishing afterwards, however, it did not conclude.

The next day, the newspapers tried to diminish the real intensity of the facts, picturing the students as the culprits of the massacre. Most of the information was about the military men and how many became hurt trying to ‘save’ their country from these ‘irrational’ adolescences. Only two newspapers could include some information about students, however, all this information was being controlled, in order to pretend everything was actually alright with the country. It was not until about 30 years later that the spectators and survivors could talk “freely” about these facts.

Marcha del Silencio After all the deaths and the capture of some leaders of the movement, the students got themselves together in the Museo Nacional de Antropología. In September 13th of this same year, members from the CNH and relatives from the late students who died at that time, leaded a manifestation against the measures taken by the government. Through out the whole trajectory, the conglomeration of people behaved themselves in the most organized manner. All of this people brought cartels and carried out the manifestation in the best possible way. This ‘marcha del silencio’ was the representation of the real internal strength of the movement of ‘Mexico 68’.

The Women in the Movement

All the female participants in the movement of Mexico 68 lived an intense social experience and a sudden expansion of their expectations as citizens and as women. Many of them awakened to the political and social commitment made for life. Before the repression, there were already some students’ groups that gave women the opportunity to participate actively in this social movement. Because of this, feminist ideas started to spread out and grow stronger. During this time, the government’s officials tended to focus on men in the movement, discounting the significance of the role that woman played at that time. As a result of this discrimination, men became the target of the government during the crackdown of October 2nd, 1968, leaving women behind. This gave female members the opportunity to keep the movement alive, pointing its direction into the ensuing years.

Marta Lamas, one of the most lucid representatives of the Mexican feminism, gave an opportunity to the active participation of women in Mexican movements. In the early years of the next decade, the Liberation of Women Movement, Women in Action Association and the National Women's Movement, among other organizations were created.

Consequences

This social movement brought unavoidable consequence which changed permanently the future outcome of Mexico.

Political The mayor change caused by this movement came at this level. The new citizens had the opportunity to live a new democracy in which their opinion could actually make a change in society. No longer men and women will live completely under the conscious control of their government, nor will tolerate it anymore.

Social Several social changes gave places after this year. No longer would people have to live under strict and unbreakable rules. Because of this, there was more freedom of action upon the law as well as freedom of expressing themselves without the same restrictions. Also new ideas took place and transform their lives. Feminism was one of them. This new ideology allowed women to fight for her rights, increasing the social participation of women in a significant percentage. Women were not only the ones who were to take care of the house and children, but could also become a business woman.

Pr3tTy 9rl 05:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)Pr3tTy 9rl

Mexico 68

Mexico 68 was a students’ movement caused by an ideological clash between generations. Socialism and Capitalism also influenced the students and the government at that time. October 2nd and the Silence March are the most important parts of the movement. Students from the IPN, UNAM and other schools forgot their differences and acted as one to achieve their goals. The Olympic Games of 1968 played an important role on the way the government acted. Both the government and the students acted according to their generational ideologies. This movement was influenced by the world’s movements at that time, like the Hippie movement. The movement influenced the Mexican feminism and women played an important role in it.

Pr3tTy 9rl 05:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)Pr3tTt 9rl