Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/August 26

Concerning the entry about the second Battle of Bull Run: No, the battle did not begin today, August 26. It began on August 28, 1862, just like the wikipedia article on Second Bull Run says. L. Thomas W. (talk) 20:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC) L. Thomas W.

Donoghue_v_Stevenson
This case, as the article says quite clearly, was a Scots law case, not English law. However, as the House of Lords is the ultimate court for both Scottish and English civil law, the precedent extended to English law, also. Therefore, to be accurate, On this day should say launch one of the landmark civil action cases in British Common Law.--ML5 (talk) 13:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposal

 * 1810 - Juan José Castelli orders the execution (pictured) of Santiago de Liniers, during the Argentine War of Independence.

(bolded article is a good article) Cambalachero (talk) 22:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

2012 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 04:35, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Battle of Manzikert; First voyage of James Cook; SWAPO; Women's Strike for Equality; Charter of the French Language
 * Included: Battle of Crécy (7th appearance, last in 2010); Pennsylvania Ministerium (3rd appearance, last in 2008); Juan José Castelli/Santiago de Liniers, 1st Count of Buenos Aires (first appearance for both); 1883 eruption of Krakatoa (first appearance—?!?!); 1968 Democratic National Convention (3rd appearance, last in 2009)

2013 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 04:05, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Second Chechen War (maintenance)
 * Omitted: Battle of Crécy; Pennsylvania Ministerium; Juan José Castelli/Santiago de Liniers, 1st Count of Buenos Aires; 1968 Democratic National Convention; Charter of the French Language (ineligible—maintenance)
 * Included: Herero Day (first appearance); Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (7th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Donoghue v Stevenson (3rd appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Women's Strike for Equality (2nd appearance, last in 2011); International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia (first appearance; blurb last appeared in 2010 and previously featured Abkhazia and South Ossetia, but the former is currently ineligible)
 * Repeats: 1883 eruption of Krakatoa (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

Heroes' Day and Herero Day in Namibia
Just a note that this is an unusual case: Both are on the same day, August 26, and Heroes' Day commemorates an event (Battle at Omugulugwombashe) whose date was intentionally chosen to be the same anniversary that Herero Day celebrates. References are in the article. --Pgallert (talk) 08:05, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

2014 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 09:54, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen; 1883 eruption of Krakatoa; Donoghue v Stevenson; Women's Strike for Equality; International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia
 * Included: Heroes' Day (Namibia) (4th appearance, last in 2010); Battle of Manzikert (9th appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Crécy (8th appearance, last in 2012); First voyage of James Cook (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Juan José Castelli/Santiago de Liniers, 1st Count of Buenos Aires (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2012); SWAPO (2nd appearance, last in 2011)

2015 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 07:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Battle of Crécy; First voyage of James Cook; Juan José Castelli; SWAPO
 * Included: Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (8th appearance, last in 2013); 1883 eruption of Krakatoa (3rd appearance, last in 2013); 1968 Democratic National Convention (4th appearance, last in 2012); Charter of the French Language (3rd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible)
 * Repeats: Battle of Manzikert (2nd consecutive appearance, 10 total)

2016 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 08:17, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Battle of Manzikert; Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen; 1883 eruption of Krakatoa; 1968 Democratic National Convention; Charter of the French Language
 * Included: Pennsylvania Ministerium (4th appearance, last in 2012); Juan José Castelli/Santiago de Liniers, 1st Count of Buenos Aires (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2014); SWAPO (3rd appearance, last in 2014; 50th anniversary); Sigmund Jähn (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia (2nd appearance, last in 2013)

Requested edit
One of the anniversaries reads as follows:

It is needless to say that a country unilaterally recognized another country since the recognition of one state to another is an attribute of every sovereign state to decide it without any foreign interference and does not need to consult another country or other countries for this, hence no more sides or parties are needed to do so. If Abhazia had declared its independence unilaterally, that's a different tale, since international law provides in which situations a state may declare its independence, but it can not prohibit or ban if one country wants to recognize another country, because as I said before, it is an attribute of a sovereign state to decide whether it does or does not recognized any random nation.

I propose to delete that word for the reasons given above, in order to read: "2008 – More than a week after a ceasefire was reached in the Russo-Georgian War, Russia recognized the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia." Nika de Hitch (talk) 10:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC)


 * ❌ Hi, you've used the edit request template incorrectly. This template is for users with a conflict of interest in editing the article and I've therefore removed the template as this isn't applicable in this case. As a side note, you could remove the word yourself as there have been no objections or further discussion since this edit request was made in August. st170e talk 14:03, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

2017 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 21:21, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Crécy (maintenance); First voyage of James Cook (maintenance); Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (maintenance); 1883 eruption of Krakatoa (maintenance); Charter of the French Language (maintenance)
 * Omitted: Pennsylvania Ministerium; SWAPO; Sigmund Jähn; International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia
 * Included: Battle of Manzikert (11th appearance, last in 2015); Togoland Campaign (first appearance); Hey Jude (2nd appearance, last in 2004); Harvey's Resort Hotel bombing (first appearance); Manuel Abad y Queipo (first appearance); Sue Bailey Thurman (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Juan José Castelli (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)


 * While Hey Jude appeared in 2017, please can it also appear in 2018, as it will be the 50th anniversary of its release. Thanks. Fish +Karate  11:19, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Harra incident
Hi Howcheng. Did you see my suggestion? Could I know why you removed it from the page? Regards. -- M h hossein   talk 12:56, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I just saw your comment on my talk page, thanks for your clarifications. -- M h hossein   talk 13:03, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

2018 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 17:30, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Women's Strike for Equality (maintenance); Sigmund Jähn (maintenance)
 * New articles (unused): Battle of Le Cateau; Murders of Alison Parker and Adam Ward
 * Omitted: Juan José Castelli (ineligible—date not in article); Togoland Campaign; Hey Jude; Manuel Abad y Queipo; Sue Bailey Thurman
 * Included: Donoghue v Stevenson (4th appearance, last in 2013; 90th anniversary); 1968 Democratic National Convention (4th appearance, last in 2013; 50th anniversary); International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 10th anniversary); Arnold Fothergill (first appearance); Katherine Johnson (first appearance; 100th birthday); Frederick Reines (first appearance; 20th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Battle of Manzikert (2nd consecutive appearance, 12 total); Harvey's Resort Hotel bombing (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

2019 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 15:56, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
 * New articles (unused): James Franck
 * Omitted: Battle of Manzikert; Donoghue v Stevenson; 1968 Democratic National Convention; Harvey's Resort Hotel bombing; International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia; Arnold Fothergill; Katherine Johnson; Frederick Reines
 * Included: Battle of Crécy (9th appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Pennsylvania Ministerium (5th appearance, last in 2016); Battle of Le Cateau (first appearance); Pather Panchali (first appearance); Murders of Alison Parker and Adam Ward (first appearance); Manuel Abad y Queipo (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Geraldine Ferraro (first appearance); Ralph Vaughan Williams (first appearance)

2020 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 18:39, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Deleted: Juan José Castelli (moved to October 12)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Sigmund Jähn
 * New articles (unused): Mildred Albert
 * Omitted: Battle of Crécy; Pennsylvania Ministerium; Battle of Le Cateau; Pather Panchali; Murders of Alison Parker and Adam Ward; Geraldine Ferraro; Ralph Vaughan Williams
 * Included: Battle of al-Harra (first appearance); Battle of Manzikert (13th appearance, last in 2018); Togoland Campaign (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Women's Strike for Equality (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 50th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); Harvey's Resort Hotel bombing (3rd appearance, last in 2018; 40th anniversary); James Franck (first appearance); Amelia Boynton Robinson (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Manuel Abad y Queipo (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

2021 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 07:18, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): First voyage of James Cook; Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen
 * New articles (unused): Barbara Toomer
 * Omitted: Battle of al-Harra; Togoland Campaign; Women's Strike for Equality; Harvey's Resort Hotel bombing; Manuel Abad y Queipo; James Franck; Amelia Boynton Robinson
 * Included: Pennsylvania Ministerium (6th appearance, last in 2019); Hey Jude (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Sigmund Jähn (3rd appearance, last in 2016); International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia (4th appearance, last in 2018); Humilis of Bisignano (first appearance); Arnold Fothergill (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Mildred Albert (first appearance; 30th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Battle of Manzikert (2nd consecutive appearance, 14 total; 950th anniversary)

2022 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 17:49, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Herero Day (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Manzikert; Pennsylvania Ministerium; Hey Jude; Sigmund Jähn; International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia; Humilis of Bisignano; Arnold Fothergill; Mildred Albert
 * Included: Battle of al-Harra (2nd appearance, last in 2020); Battle of Crécy (10th appearance, last in 2019); Donoghue v Stevenson (5th appearance, last in 2018); Pather Panchali (2nd appearance, last in 2019); South African Border War (first appearance); James Franck (2nd appearance, last in 2020); Katherine Johnson (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Ralph Vaughan Williams (2nd appearance, last in 2019)

2023 notes
There was a discussion at WP:ERRORS about the "Hey Jude" item, copied below. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:59, 27 August 2023 (UTC)


 * 1968 – The Beatles released "Hey Jude", which became the then-longest single to top the UK charts.
 * Here we go again. Is this the UK Wikipedia? According to our "Hey Jude" article:
 * "Hey Jude" was a number-one hit in many countries around the world and became the year's top-selling single in the UK, the US, Australia and Canada. Its nine-week run at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 tied the all-time record in 1968 for the longest run at the top of the US charts, a record it held for nine years.
 * Suggest we include at least the U.S., along with UK, as the two largest relevant markets, and possibly also other English-speaking countries. – Sca (talk) 12:56, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If it's true that it was the longest single to top the US charts, I'd consider adding that, but the article only mentions the UK charts. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:23, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * How about describing it as a global hit, so drawing the international aspect out of the narrower national one?  SN54129  13:49, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm neutral on that. If others like it, I'm ok with anyone making the switch. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:33, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * For our audience, U.S. and UK seem more relevant -- possibly with the addition "and in many other countries" or words to that effect. (It was also popular in some non-Anglosphere countries, such as [West] Germany, France, the Netherlands, etc.) -- Sca (talk) 16:04, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * So, six hours later, we're still saying it was a hit only in the UK. Rule Britannia? Good grief! – Sca (talk) 19:24, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't say it was only a hit in the UK. It does say it became the then-longest single to top the UK charts, where "longest" refers to its seven-minute length. That's more interesting than simply being a "hit". The blurb reflects the article, which only mentions (and references) the length record for the UK charts. I don't see what the problem is. Bazza (talk) 19:38, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The problem is this: About 62 percent of the world's speakers of English as a first language reside in the U.S., where Hey Jude also was a huge hit. I myself remember it very well. The present blurb doesn't say "only," but it certainly implies it by not mentioning any other relevant English-speaking audiences, notably the largest one. English Wiki is not his Britannic Majesty's Wikipedia, it's Wikipedia for speakers of the English language, of which this I am one. As my 'Babel' user box says, "This user is a native speaker of the English language." -- Sca (talk) 19:56, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I was sure the complaint about this set was going to be that it was Americentric, given there are two US hooks plus a US bio and holiday. But no, we get Anglocentric! ERRORS, man. Vaticidalprophet 20:00, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Baloney. -- Sca (talk) 20:09, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Are there sources to say that the song set the same record in other countries? Can they be added to the article? Until that's done, this is a non-starter. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:03, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Excuses, excuses. But there's no editorial excuse for the blatant one-sidedness of the existing blurb. Unfair and disappointing. -- Sca (talk) 20:07, 26 August 2023 (UTC)