Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/August 29

Suggested edit:


 * 1786 - Disgruntled farmers started Shays' Rebellion in Western Massachusetts to protest disenfranchisement and high tax burdens.

Dunkelza 19:57 August 23, 2005 (EDT)


 * Okay. But I'd mention the taxes first. -- PFHLai 01:19, 2005 August 24 (UTC)
 * I changed it again. The verb 'to protest' doesn't seem to fit a rebellion. BTW, where should the apostrophe be ? -- PFHLai 01:24, 2005 August 24 (UTC)
 * Where you have it is fine. That's the place it is most commonly located.  There was some debate by a Strunk & White fan on the Talk page that led to us dropping it altogether from the article's main title.  I'll fix this entry to match the article title ("the Shays Rebellion"). Dunkelza 12:24 August 24, 2005 (EDT)
 * Need help moving the article ? -- PFHLai 18:42, 2005 August 24 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I think we're best off leaving it as is, just for the sake of encyclopedic consistency. I appreciate the offer, though.  Dunkelza 17:30 August 25, 2005 (EDT)
 * You are welcome. :-) -- PFHLai 02:28, 2005 August 26 (UTC)

Hurricane Katrina anniversary
This disaster should be on the MainPage, but I suggest a rewrite to focus on what happened on August 29th. The damages were done over a number of days. How about mentioning the hurricane making landfall near Buras-Triumph, Louisiana or the levees getting breached in New Orleans ? -- PFHLai 19:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Military-Heavy?
We have four military events: an invasion, a battle and two rebellions, and only one non-military event. While these are all certainly notable, couldn't we replace a couple of them with other events so as to avoid a heavy military focus? —Cuivi é nen 01:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've replaced Shay's Rebellion with Michael Faraday's discovery of electromagnetic induction. Science rarely gets a spot in "On This Day", the discovery is very important to science, and it reduces the number of rebellions in this "On this Day" to one. —Cuivi é nen 01:56, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's military-heavy. I ain't happy with it, but Michael Faraday's discovery of electromagnetic induction cannot be used yet. That date is not confirmed and cannot be found in either article. -- PFHLai 15:28, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * When the date of this discovery is confirmed and added to the relevant articles, please consider replacing the 1907 item with this. The collapse of the Quebec Bridge is not that significant. It's added there to "dilute the military-centrism" on the template for now. Thanks. -- PFHLai 16:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Quebec Bridge Text Change
I want to suggest a change to the second last point, the one about the Quebec bridge. It currently reads:


 * 1907 – The Quebec Bridge, currently the longest cantilever bridge span in the world at 549 m (1800 ft) connecting Quebec City and Lévis, Quebec, Canada across the St. Lawrence River, collapsed during construction, killing 75 workers.


 * and I think it would be better if it read (with change in bold):


 * 1907 – The Quebec Bridge, currently the longest cantilever bridge span in the world at 549 m (1800 ft) connecting Quebec City and Lévis, Quebec, Canada across the St. Lawrence River, collapsed during construction of its first design, killing 75 workers.


 * or something similar (without the bolding in the final, of course), to reflect the fact that the current bridge is not the same design as the one that collapsed.

JQF • Talk • Contribs 15:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Hong Kong in Treaty of Nanking
The "Hong Kong" ceded in the Treaty of Nanking is Hong Kong Island, not the entire city we call Hong Kong today, need to change the link in the hypertext. 222.153.225.96 (talk) 12:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

On the same topic, I've put unequal treaty in quotes. On Talk:Unequal treaty, people have repeatedly brought up issues relating to using that term with no qualifiers across various article. Basically, it's a loaded political term pertaining to Chinese nationalist or historical narratives. Now, the term unequal treaty is also used in an academic context, not just in a nationalistic sense, but even then it's often put in quotes, italics, prefixed with "so-called", or otherwise given some kind of proper context. So to comply with WP:NPOV, we have a couple of options:

1/ Give it some kind of qualifier as I just mentioned. This is what I've done by adding quotes.

2/ Replace it with the more neutral term peace treaty. Only problem with this is it doesn't give the larger imperial context on the various treaties signed and/or imposed on China during this period.

So it's perfectly neutral to say China views a certain treaty as an unequal treaty, but then you'd have to sacrifice brevity in the entry. But at the very least, to use that term without any qualifiers or context as if it's a universally accepted matter-of-fact category of treaty definitely violates NPOV. Spellcast (talk) 13:27, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Louis II
Louis II was not killed by the Ottoman army. He fell into a river and drowned while trying to leave the battlefield. The Spy Who Came in from the Cold (talk) 10:30, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Atahualpa, not the last emperor
Atahualpa was not the last emperor of the Incas as the Spanish established a series of puppet emperors prior to completing their conquest. The Incas would continue their imperial line until Tupac Amaru I. The appropiate thing to write would be that Atahualpa was the last Inca Emperor prior to the Spanish conquest of Peru. Best regards.-- MarshalN20 | T a l k 22:07, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Also note that an editor commented at WP:ERRORS that Atahualpa died July 26, but was buried August 29. If this fact is used in 2012, this should be looked into; I'm not sure which is correct. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:31, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

2012 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 07:26, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Treaty of Nanking (maintenance)
 * New articles (unused): Ishi
 * Omitted: Atahualpa; Daimler Reitwagen; St Kilda, Scotland; 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack; Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801
 * Included: Shays' Rebellion (6th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible; moved back from February 3); Faraday's law of induction (first appearance; blurb rescued from Ineligible); Jones Law (Philippines) (first appearance); RDS-1 (first appearance); Libero Grassi (first appearance)

2013 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 05:11, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Atahualpa; Daniel Shays/Shays' Rebellion; Michael Faraday/Faraday's law of induction; Jones Law (Philippines); RDS-1; Libero Grassi
 * Included: Treaty of Picquigny (first appearance); Hong Kong (5th appearance, last in 2007; previously appeared on August 23); Russian battleship Slava (first appearance); Ishi (first appearance); 2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident (first appearance)

2014 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 06:34, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Atahualpa (maintenance)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Hurricane Katrina
 * Omitted: Treaty of Picquigny; Hong Kong; Russian battleship Slava; Ishi; 2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident
 * Included: Battle of Mohács (6th appearance, last in 2010); Michael Faraday/Faraday's law of induction (Faraday: first appearance; Law: 2nd appearance, last in 2012); Daimler Reitwagen; St Kilda, Scotland (2nd appearance, last in 2011); 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 30th anniversary)

2015 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 10:55, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Deleted: Atahualpa (moved to July 26)
 * Omitted: Battle of Mohács; Michael Faraday/Faraday's law of induction; Daimler Reitwagen; St Kilda, Scotland; 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack
 * Included: Treaty of Picquigny (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Hong Kong (6th appearance, last in 2013); RDS-1 (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Libero Grassi (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Hurricane Katrina (5th appearance, last in 2010; 10th anniversary)

2016 notes
— howcheng  {chat}
 * Omitted: Treaty of Picquigny; Hong Kong; RDS-1; Hurricane Katrina
 * Included: Michael Faraday/Faraday's law of induction (Faraday: 2nd appearance; Law: 3rd appearance, last in 2014); Daimler Reitwagen (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Jones Law (Philippines) (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 100th anniversary); Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801 (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 20th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Libero Grassi (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 25th anniversary)

2017 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 03:12, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Mohács (maintenance); Ishi (maintenance); Hurricane Katrina (maintenance)
 * Omitted: Beheading of St. John the Baptist (ineligible—maintenance); Daimler Reitwagen; Jones Law (Philippines); Libero Grassi; Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801
 * Included: Hong Kong (7th appearance, last in 2015; 175th anniversary); Russian battleship Slava (2nd appearance, last in 2013); St Kilda, Scotland (3rd appearance, last in 2014); 2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 100th anniversary); Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres (first appearance); Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr. (first appearance); Lale Andersen (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Michael Faraday/Faraday's law of induction (both: 2nd consecutive appearance; Faraday: 3 total; Law: 4 total)

2018 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 15:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Michael Faraday; Russian battleship Slava; St Kilda, Scotland; 2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident; Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres; Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.; Lale Andersen
 * Included: Battle of Winchelsea (first appearance); Daniel Shays/Shays' Rebellion (Shays: first appearance; Rebellion: 7th appearance, last in 2012); RDS-1 (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Libero Grassi (4th appearance, last in 2016); Basil I (first appearance); Juan Bautista Alberdi (first appearance); Ingrid Bergman (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Treaty of Nanking/Hong Kong (Treaty: first appearance; HK: 2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

2019 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 22:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * New articles (unused): Eystein I of Norway
 * Omitted: Battle of Winchelsea; Daniel Shays/Shays' Rebellion; Treaty of Nanking/Hong Kong; Libero Grassi; Basil I; Juan Bautista Alberdi; Ingrid Bergman
 * Included: Treaty of Picquigny (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Daimler Reitwagen (4th appearance, last in 2016); Jones Law (Philippines) (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801 (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Abu Taghlib (first appearance); Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr. (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Michael Jackson (first appearance)
 * Repeats: RDS-1 (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 70th anniversary)

2020 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 21:35, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * New articles (unused): Henry Bergh; Vivien Thomas
 * Omitted: Treaty of Picquigny; Daimler Reitwagen; Jones Law (Philippines); RDS-1; Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801; Abu Taghlib; Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr.; Michael Jackson
 * Included: Battle of Winchelsea (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Michael Faraday/Faraday's law of induction (Faraday: 4th appearance; Law: 5th; both last in 2017); Russian battleship Slava (3rd appearance, last in 2017); St Kilda, Scotland (4th appearance, last in 2017; 90th anniversary); Casbah Coffee Club (first appearance); Eystein I of Norway (first appearance); Hamida Banu Begum (first appearance); Otis Boykin (first appearance; 100th birthday)

2021 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 07:56, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Battle of Winchelsea; Michael Faraday/his law of induction; Russian battleship Slava; St Kilda, Scotland; Casbah Coffee Club; Eystein I of Norway; Hamida Banu Begum; Otis Boykin
 * Included: Daniel Shays/Shays' Rebellion (Shays: 2nd appearance; Rebellion: 8th; both last in 2018); Daimler Reitwagen (5th appearance, last in 2019); RDS-1 (5th appearance, last in 2019); Libero Grassi (5th appearance, last in 2018; 30th anniversary); Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801 (4th appearance, last in 2019; 25th anniversary); Charles of Taranto (first appearance); Edmond Hoyle (first appearance); Vivien Thomas (first appearance)

2022 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 18:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Ishi
 * Omitted: Daniel Shays/Shays' Rebellion; Daimler Reitwagen; RDS-1; Libero Grassi; Charles of Taranto; Edmond Hoyle; Vivien Thomas
 * Included: Beheading of John the Baptist (rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Winchelsea (3rd appearance, last in 2020); Hong Kong (8th appearance, last in 2018); Russian battleship Slava (4th appearance, last in 2020); 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr. (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Lale Andersen (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 50th anniversary); Ingrid Bergman (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 40th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Vnukovo Airlines Flight 2801 (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)