Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/March 4

This is terrible. 5 events, 4 of them are USA-centric!!! -- Kaihsu 09:01, 2004 Mar 4 (UTC)
 * Please feel free to search March 4 for items that have reasonably full articles and the possibility of pictures, and update at will. We try very hard to be non-Amerocentric, but sometimes the material Wikipedia makes available means that's impossible. Your assistance on the selected anniversaries project would be appreciated. jengod 09:07, Mar 4, 2004 (UTC)


 * I've already done that. Somebody needs to add non-US qualifying items to that page. --mav
 * No, Mav, honey, I know you have. I'm saying just that. If the pages aren't updated with non-American stuff, we don't have non-American stuff to update with period. It's not part of our gigantic bias for the U.S. :) jengod 19:13, Mar 4, 2004 (UTC)


 * How about the election in Zimbabwe Rhodesia, making Robert Mugabe the first PM of the soon-to-come-into-existense Republic of Zimbabwe ? I'll put that in later...-- PFHLai 21:37, 2005 Feb 27 (UTC) --(Correction) PFHLai 14:14, 2005 Feb 28 (UTC)

moved from Talk:Main Page
Forget some urban legend about the US Presidency. This should really be on the main page:


 * 1789 - In New York City, the first United States Congress meets, putting the Constitution of the United States into effect.

Thanks, Mdiamante (talk) 12:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The switch from Congress of the Confederation to United States Congress appears to be a boring paperwork procedure to me. For United States Constitution, I'd rather save this for Constitution Day (United States) on September 17. That's the day people remember these days. --PFHLai (talk) 17:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Re-iterating what I wrote last year.
 * 1681 – King Charles II of England granted Quaker William Penn a charter for the Pennsylvania Colony.
 * Is all well and good, but this is more important. And it's much more than "paperwork procedure", it's the difference between a failed government and one that turns 220 today. Without the new government, there'd be no Constitution, no President Washington, etc. The mind boggles.
 * So, please consider including. Best, Mdiamante (talk) 04:53, 4 March 2009 (UTC).


 * As stated on WP:OTD, "Ideally, any particular selected article should only be listed (be an emboldened entry) once in this queue". The United States Constitution article is already an emboldened entry on Selected anniversaries/September 17 because, as PFHLai stated, it coincides with Constitution Day (United States). Therefore do you know any alternative article to bold for that 1789 event? Also, as implied on the first question of the FAQ post above this talk page, we do not automatically fulfill requests to switch entries just because a user says that an event is "more important and significant" than all the others that are currently listed. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably we can bold United States Congress and/or Congress of the Confederation. I can probably list it in the hidden, backup list for now so it is available, especially when we need to "unhide one to balance the text of the Main Page". Cheers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe I've been trumpeting the wrong emphasis. How's this:
 * 1789- The First United States Congress opens in New York City, marking the start of the current government under the Constitution.
 * ? This gets the important event across without doubling the Constitution event. Cheers, Mdiamante (talk) 18:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

2012 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 00:50, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: History of Chicago (Chicago is POTD this year), David Rice Atchison (maintenance), Omar al-Bashir (maintenance)
 * Omitted: Adrian and Natalia of Nicomedia, Mahina Cyclone of 1899, 1918 flu pandemic, Robert Mugabe
 * Included: Orion Nebula (4th appearance, last in 2010), Swan Lake (3rd appearance, last in 2006), USS Cyclops (AC-4) (first appearance), Iran–Contra affair (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Jogaila (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

2013 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 20:06, 3 March 2013 (UTC) The Frances Perkins item should read "1933 – Frances Perkins (pictured) was appointed United States Secretary of Labor, making her the first female member of the Cabinet. Today is also the 100th anniversary of the Department's founding."
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Forth Bridge; Omar al-Bashir
 * New articles (unused): Battle of Longwoods
 * Omitted: Jogaila; Orion Nebula; Swan Lake; USS Cyclops (AC-4); Iran–Contra affair
 * Included: Saint Casimir (6th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); History of the United States Congress (first appearance); Cyclone Mahina (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Frances Perkins (first appearance; 80th anniversary); Robert Mugabe (6th appearance, last in 2011); Death of Charlotte Shaw (first appearance)

--evrik (talk) 19:09, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that doesn't work. Although we frequently have blurbs with multiple articles in bold, those are for when those articles are both related to the event in question (or in at least one case there were two battles in the same war on the same day). In this case, you actually want to put two different events for two different things that happened in two different years (Perkins' appointment in 1933, plus department's founding in 1913). There's no way to squeeze those two together without it being awkward. Furthermore, the United States Department of Labor article is tagged for expansion, so it's not eligible to be a bold article anyway. — howcheng  {chat} 21:52, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --evrik (talk) 15:43, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

2014 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 07:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Deleted: Microphone (date not in article, and blurb is also factually incorrect); Saxbe fix (too obscure)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Swan Lake (maintenance)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Chicago (blurb previously featured History of Chicago, which is currently ineligible); David Rice Atchison
 * Omitted: History of the United States Congress; Cyclone Mahina; Frances Perkins; Robert Mugabe; Death of Charlotte Shaw
 * Included: Władysław II Jagiełło (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Longwoods (first appearance; 200th anniversary); Forth Bridge (2nd appearance, last in 2009); Louis Buchalter (2nd appearance, last in 2004; rescued from Ineligible; 70th anniversary); Omar al-Bashir (2nd appearance, last in 2010)

2015 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 08:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Władysław II Jagiełło; Battle of Longwoods; Forth Bridge; Louis Buchalter; Omar al-Bashir
 * Included: Adrian and Natalia of Nicomedia (2nd appearance, last in 2011); William Penn (4th appearance, last in 2007); Cyclone Mahina (3rd appearance, last in 2013); 1918 flu pandemic (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Robert Mugabe (7th appearance, last in 2013)

2016 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 07:47, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Deleted: David Rice Atchison (blurb fact is not really true)
 * Omitted: William Penn; Cyclone Mahina; 1918 flu pandemic; Robert Mugabe
 * Included: Edward IV of England (7th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Orion Nebula (5th appearance, last in 2012); Operation Claymore (first appearance; 75th anniversary); Omar al-Bashir (3rd appearance, last in 2014)
 * Repeats: Adrian and Natalia of Nicomedia (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

Inclusion of bios in birth/death section
TRM and I seem to differ on the criteria for including biographies in the birth/death slot. I think it's anyone who has a WP article and hence added Bobbi Brown, however TRM has removed this twice on the grounds that she hasn't achieved anything, isn't encyclopedic and doesn't do anything for women. Can we have a discussion about this as this sets a precedent for other biographies to be excluded on similar grounds. Or do the guidelines need to be adapted to include TRM's criteria, in which case every nomination is going to be up for subjective discussion. Why can't we include all 3 biographies nominated for this day? MurielMary (talk)

2017 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 06:56, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: History of the United States Congress (maintenance)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Castle Hill convict rebellion
 * Omitted: Adrian and Natalia of Nicomedia; Edward IV of England (ineligible—maintenance); Orion Nebula; Operation Claymore; Omar al-Bashir
 * Included: Władysław II Jagiełło (4th appearance, last in 2014); Forth Bridge (3rd appearance, last in 2014); 1918 flu pandemic (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Iran–Contra affair (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 30th anniversary); Death of Charlotte Shaw (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 10th anniversary); Miriam Makeba (first appearance); Bobbi Kristina Brown (first appearance); Saladin (3rd appearance, last in 2014; shouldn't have been included as article already appears on March 26)

2018 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 01:42, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Chicago (maintenance)
 * New articles (unused): John Flamsteed
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Royal National Lifeboat Institution
 * Omitted: Saint Casimir (ineligible—maintenance); Władysław II Jagiełło; Forth Bridge; Iran–Contra affair; Death of Charlotte Shaw; Saladin (deleted; normally appears on March 26); Miriam Makeba; Bobbi Kristina Brown
 * Included: Adrian and Natalia of Nicomedia (4th appearance, last in 2016); Castle Hill convict rebellion (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Self-elimination of the Austrian Parliament (first appearance); Brazzaville arms dump blasts (first appearance); Hindal Mirza (first appearance); Mariano Moreno (first appearance); Harold Barrowclough (first appearance)
 * Repeats: 1918 flu pandemic (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total; 100th anniversary)

2019 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 17:30, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Chicago
 * Omitted: Adrian and Natalia of Nicomedia; Castle Hill convict rebellion; 1918 flu pandemic; Self-elimination of the Austrian Parliament; Brazzaville arms dump blasts; Mariano Moreno; Harold Barrowclough
 * Included: Trpimir I of Croatia (first appearance); Orion Nebula (6th appearance, last in 2016; 250th anniversary); Cyclone Mahina (4th appearance, last in 2015); Louis Buchalter (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Omar al-Bashir (4th appearance, last in 2016); Edwards Pierrepont (first appearance); Izaak Kolthoff (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Hindal Mirza (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 500th birthday)

2020 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 16:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Deleted: Robert Mugabe (moved to April 18)
 * Omitted: Trpimir I of Croatia; Orion Nebula (deleted—not a good date for this); Cyclone Mahina; Lepke Buchalter; Omar al-Bashir; Hindal Mirza; Edwards Pierrepont; Izaak Kolthoff
 * Included: Saint Casimir (rescued from Ineligible); Edward IV of England (8th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Forth Bridge (4th appearance, last in 2017); More popular than Jesus (first appearance); Hank Gathers (first appearance); Hans von Aachen (first appearance); Paul Lacôme (first appearance); Gary Gygax (first appearance)

2021 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 18:37, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * New articles (ineligible): Rosalind Pitt-Rivers (POTD for 2021-02-16)
 * New articles (unused): Ernest Titterton
 * Omitted: Edward IV of England; Forth Bridge; More popular than Jesus; Hank Gathers; Hans von Aachen; Paul Lacôme; Gary Gygax
 * Included: Władysław II Jagiełło (5th appearance, last in 2017); Fortification of Dorchester Heights (first appearance); Spanish flu (5th appearance, last in 2018); Operation Claymore (2nd appearance, last in 2016; 80th anniversary); Omar al-Bashir (5th appearance, last in 2019); Stephen III of Hungary (first appearance); Robert Emden (first appearance); Jane Fawcett (first appearance; 100th birthday)

2022 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 19:45, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Rosalind Pitt-Rivers
 * Omitted: Władysław II Jagiełło; Fortification of Dorchester Heights; Spanish flu; Operation Claymore; Omar al-Bashir; Robert Emden; Jane Fawcett
 * Included: John Flamsteed (first appearance); Castle Hill convict rebellion (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Chicago (first appearance); The Holocaust in Bulgarian-occupied Greece (first appearance); Brazzaville arms dump blasts (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 10th anniversary); Miriam Makeba (3rd appearance, last in 2021; also appeared on November 9, her death anniversary; 90th birthday); Harold Barrowclough (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 50th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Stephen III of Hungary (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 850th anniversary)