Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/November 18

Poorly sourced and low quality articles
diff link = Please do not remove high quality WP:GA rated or WP:FA rated materials and replace it with poor quality, inadequately sourced low rated pages. -- Cirt (talk) 17:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * diff link = Articles Time zone and 1929 Grand Banks earthquake have multiple problems and unaddressed issues. Please, do not add these poor quality pages back to this Selected anniversaries page. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 12:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * diff link = Battle of Berlin (air) and Push-button telephone = these articles are poor quality and have multiple problems, and should not be displayed on the Main Page in their present states. They were added replacing high quality pages, Calvin and Hobbes and Aggie Bonfire. For the 3rd time, high quality pages were removed and replaced with poor quality pages. Talk page discussion, here, would be appreciated. -- Cirt (talk) 17:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

See the bolded wording at page, Selected anniversaries/doc, which reads: "Please note that the events listed on the Main Page are chosen based more on relative article quality and to maintain a mix of topics, not based solely on how important or significant their subjects are.". (Bolding emphasis is in the original) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 17:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Poorly sourced entries have been added back, see diff link. These should not be added back to the page, hidden commented out or otherwise, until properly sourced. -- Cirt (talk) 13:29, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No no no, they should stay hidden at least. Look at any other day's page; there are usually a number of hidden items that are noted as needing better citations or whatever. Then next year, when someone comes around to update the page, they can always check those articles to see if they've improved. This makes it more convenient for this editor, even if it's yourself -- now you don't need to go and do the research anymore. If the article is still in poor quality, then you leave it hidden. If it's improved, it can be moved back into the pool. But if you remove it, you just make more work for the updating editor. Get it?  howcheng  {chat} 01:06, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Respectfully disagree, we do not want to allow for the possibility of someone carelessly adding back poorly sourced entries or articles with tagged issues for display on the Main Page. However, you appear to be determined to repeatedly add back the poorly sourced entries, so it is not worth getting into a tiffy over. Hopefully the poorly sourced entries will not be displayed in the future until all issues have been appropriately fixed. -- Cirt (talk) 02:46, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Steamboat Willie
Removed this one. Multiple unaddressed issues, including WP:NOR violations, WP:V violations, and completely unreferenced chunks. -- Cirt (talk) 17:46, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Steamboat Willie

King's Cross fire
Removed this entry, as there are multiple unaddressed issues with the page, including significant sourcing concerns throughout the entire article. -- Cirt (talk) 17:48, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * King's Cross fire

Unam sanctam
Removed this entry, due to multiple unaddressed issues, including sourcing concerns - over-usage of primary sources and under-usage of secondary references, as well as referencing issues throughout the article page. -- Cirt (talk) 17:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Unam sanctam

Haakon VII of Norway
Removed this entry, due to sourcing concerns. Multiple unaddressed issues with this article. Large portions are unsourced. Entire sections of this page on a person have no references whatsoever. The article fails core Wikipedia policies, including WP:V. -- Cirt (talk) 17:52, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Haakon VII of Norway

2012 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 13:38, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor; Steamboat Willie; Battle of Berlin (air); Jonestown/Leo Ryan; Aggie Bonfire
 * Included: Battle of Krasnoi (first appearance; 200th anniversary); The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County (first appearance); Susan B. Anthony (8th appearance, last in 2007; moved from November 5; rescued from Ineligible); King's Cross fire (3rd appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Vukovar (6th appearance, last in 2010)

2013 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 06:54, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Omitted: The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County; Susan B. Anthony; King's Cross fire; Battle of Vukovar
 * Included: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Berlin (RAF campaign) (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 70th anniversary); Push-button telephone (first appearance; 50th anniversary); Goodridge v. Department of Public Health (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Battle of Krasnoi (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

2014 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 08:00, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor; Battle of Berlin (RAF campaign); Push-button telephone; Goodridge v. Department of Public Health
 * Included: Susan B. Anthony (9th appearance, last in 2012); Steamboat Willie (3rd appearance, last in 2011); King's Cross fire (4th appearance, last in 2012)
 * Repeats: Battle of Vukovar (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

2015 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 08:34, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Susan B. Anthony; Steamboat Willie; King's Cross fire; Battle of Vukovar
 * Included: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor (3rd appearance, last in 2013); The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 150th anniversary); Battle of Berlin (RAF campaign) (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Calvin and Hobbes (4th appearance, last in 2010; 30th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Battle of Krasnoi (4th consecutive appearance, 4 total)
 * May I recommend the pictured one be changed to Calvin and Hobbes, seeing as it is its 30th anniversary and thus noteworthy? :-) Stolengood (talk) 02:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Alas, there are no public domain images of the comic strip. — howcheng  {chat} 07:19, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Damn. :-( Not even a free use? Stolengood (talk) 19:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

2016 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 07:33, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Battle of Krasnoi; The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County; Battle of Berlin (RAF campaign); Calvin and Hobbes
 * Included: Marie Selika Williams (first appearance); Steamboat Willie (4th appearance, last in 2014); We will bury you (first appearance; 60th anniversary); Battle of Vukovar (8th appearance, last in 2014; 25th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

2017 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 08:22, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Krasnoi (maintenance); Battle of Berlin (RAF campaign) (maintenance)
 * New articles: Ernest Augustus, King of Hanover; Margaret Atwood; Wilma Mankiller; Chloë Sevigny
 * Omitted: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor (ineligible—maintenance); Marie Selika Williams; Steamboat Willie (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Vukovar
 * Included: Action of 18 November 1809 (first appearance); Susan B. Anthony (10th appearance, last in 2014); King's Cross fire (5th appearance, last in 2014; 30th anniversary); Pope Tawadros II of Alexandria (first appearance); Thomas of Bayeux (first appearance); Asa Gray (first appearance); Maribel Domínguez (first appearance)
 * Repeats: We will bury you (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

2018 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 02:17, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Margaret Atwood (maintenance)
 * New articles (unused): 2007 Zasyadko mine disaster; 2014 Jerusalem synagogue attack; Cyclone Numa; Wilma Mankiller (just appeared in DYK)
 * Omitted: Susan B. Anthony; King's Cross fire; Pope Tawadros II of Alexandria; Asa Gray; Maribel Domínguez
 * Included: The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Jonestown/Leo Ryan (Jonestown: 7th appearance; Ryan: 5th appearance; both last in 2011); Flag of Uzbekistan (first appearance); Chloë Sevigny (first appearance); Conn Smythe (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Action of 18 November 1809 (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); We will bury you (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Thomas of Bayeux (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

2019 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 17:05, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Action of 18 November 1809; The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County; We will bury you; Jonestown/Leo Ryan; Flag of Uzbekistan; Thomas of Bayeux; Chloë Sevigny; Conn Smythe
 * Included: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor (5th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); King's Cross fire (6th appearance, last in 2017); 1999 Aggie Bonfire collapse (first appearance; blurb previously featured Aggie Bonfire and is making its 4th appearance, last in 2011; 20th anniversary); Cyclone Numa (first appearance); Philibert Commerson (first appearance); Rose Philippine Duchesne (first appearance); Wilma Mankiller (first appearance)

2020 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 05:08, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Marie Selika Williams (date uncertain); Push-button telephone (maintenance); Calvin and Hobbes (maintenance); 2007 Zasyadko mine disaster (maintenance); Pope Tawadros II of Alexandria (maintenance)
 * New articles (unused): Dorothy Dix
 * Omitted: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor; King's Cross fire; 1999 Aggie Bonfire collapse; Cyclone Numa; Philibert Commerson; Rose Philippine Duchesne
 * Included: Action of 18 November 1809 (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Susan B. Anthony (11th appearance, last in 2017); We will bury you (4th appearance, last in 2018); Jonestown/Leo Ryan (Jonestown: 8th appearance; Ryan: 6th; both last in 2018); Itzam Kʼan Ahk II (first appearance); Adam Weishaupt (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Wilma Mankiller (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 75th birthday)

2021 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 17:31, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Calvin and Hobbes
 * Omitted: Action of 18 November 1809; Susan B. Anthony; Jonestown/Leo Ryan; Itzam Kʼan Ahk II; Adam Weishaupt; Wilma Mankiller
 * Included: Otto IV, Holy Roman Emperor (6th appearance, last in 2019); The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County (4th appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Vukovar (9th appearance, last in 2016; 30th anniversary); 2014 Jerusalem synagogue attack (first appearance); Thomas Burgess (bishop of Salisbury) (first appearance); Dorothy Dix (first appearance); Tara Singh Hayer (first appearance)
 * Repeats: We will bury you (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)