Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/October 7

Should I mention that I dispute the inclusion of a State Recall Election being on here? Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 03:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't like it that much either. Any replacements ? -- PFHLai 03:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * 1951 - David Ben-Gurion forms first Israeli government.
 * 1959 - Far side of the Moon seen for first time, compliments of U.S.S.R.'s Luna 3.
 * 1985 - The "Achille Lauro" is hijacked by Palestinian terrorists.
 * 2001 - The U.S. invasion of Afghanistan starts with an air assault and covert operations on the ground.
 * Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 04:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestions, Sherurcij. For 2007, I've just posted the 1959 item about Luna 3 and the far side of the Moon. The 2001 war in Afghanistan seems somewhat current, and, if choices are available, I'd suggest not having so many military-related items. (In retrospect, i should have used it for the 5th Anniversary. Too late now.) Achille Lauro is already there. And, I'd pass on the 1951 item because the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel is already featured on May 14th.  Thanks, again, for the suggestions. -- PFHLai 15:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Who is Erin born in 1991, and why does she(he?) merit inclusion on a list like this?

Hebrew Calendar-Epoch?
The Hebrew Calendar begins on Rosh Hashana (as indicated in the epoch article) and thus the anniversary of the epoch on the Gregorian Calendar changes every year. This year's anniversary was 3.5 weeks ago, on Thursday, September 13. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.104.174.245 (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion, I guess for next year: Oct. 7, patent granted for "the barcode". See. I think it meets any global significance criteria.Rhodesisland (talk) 01:30, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire defeat
''This discussion was moved from WP:ERRORS; nothing was settled before it went off the Main Page. Maybe continue discussion so next year it's better? --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)''

"The Ottoman Empire was decisively defeated by the Christian West for the first time" - Not true. The Ottomans suffered many defeats against the Hungarians under John Huyandi, and in particular the Siege of Belgrade in the late 15th century was surely a "decisive defeat" for the Ottomans.  Gabr-  el  05:06, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Please propose the new wording. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, Spain, Venice etc. are further west than the Hungarians. Art LaPella (talk) 13:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Alternative wording? With all due respect, its simple enough for you to see: The Ottoman Empire was decisively defeated by the Christian West. Perhaps on second thought this is better:

The Ottoman Empire was decisively defeated by the Holy League.  Gabr-  el  18:21, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

According to today's main page (October 7), the Ottoman Empire was decisively defeated at Lepanto 438 years ago, but actually that's wrong: it's now strongly believed, thanks to the studies of many historians, especially Fernand Braudel, that this battle was absolutely irrelevant; as a proof of this, in 1572 the Turkish navy defeated Venice ships. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.12.171.126 (talk) 21:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

(end text from WP:ERRORS)

"Most important since Actium"
The description of the battle of Lepanto was changed from the very factual statement about it being the last major galley battle in history (something which is entire uncontroversial and highly significant) to a text about a comparison with the entirely unrelated battle of Actium, a statement which not merely fraught with complications and over-simplifications (and is also unreferenced).

Could we please change it back to themore concrete and uncomplicated suggestion I made on 19 September?

Peter Isotalo 06:21, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I was trying to avoid two consecutive blurbs using the phrase "decisively defeated". I also think the fact of it being the last battle between galleys isn't catchy enough. Replaced with another nugget from the intro ("protected the Italian peninsula from an Ottoman invasion").  howcheng  {chat} 07:15, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This was at best the immediate strategic result of Lepanto, a mere geographic detail with little or no meaning to most readers (and quite speculative). I disagree quite strongly that the reference to the galley isn't "catchy" enough. We're talking about the end of an era for a type of warship that had been around since the very invention of naval warfare in the Mediterranean. In this context, Lepanto is likely the most significant single event ever since it marked the end of the galley era, and did so with a bang. In terms of number of participants, it was one of the largest battles ever fought until that time, even if we include land battles. From a wider historical perspective, it's second in importance only in that it was the first decisive defeat of the Ottoman Empire by the Western European powers.
 * Either way, the "Italy was saved"-statement is very speculative and too focused on short-term strategy to be appropriate. It's a mere geographic detail in this context.
 * Peter Isotalo 07:41, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The galley bit is interesting if you know ships, otherwise it's meaningless. Changed again to "the first major Ottoman loss to European powers".  howcheng  {chat} 15:53, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

2012 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 20:00, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * New articles (unused): 1916 Cumberland vs. Georgia Tech football game; Bombing of Banski dvori; Great Mississippi and Missouri Rivers Flood of 1993
 * Omitted: Battle of La Motta (1513); Battle of Lepanto; Cornell University; Air France; 2003 California gubernatorial recall election
 * Included: Battles of Saratoga (first appearance); Death of Edgar Allan Poe (3rd appearance, last in 2010); Sonderkommando (first appearance); Hua Guofeng (first appearance); Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (first appearance)

2013 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 07:07, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Santa Catalina Island, California; KLM
 * Omitted: Battles of Saratoga; Death of Edgar Allan Poe; Sonderkommando; Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya
 * Included: Battle of La Motta (1513) (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 400th anniversary); Royal Proclamation of 1763 (2nd appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible; 250th anniversary); Air France (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 80th anniversary); Great Flood of 1993 (first appearance; 20th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Hua Guofeng (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

2014 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 08:32, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: KLM (maintenance)
 * Omitted: Battle of La Motta (1513); Royal Proclamation of 1763; Air France; Hua Guofeng; Great Flood of 1993
 * Included: Battle of Lepanto (9th appearance, last in 2011); Robert Surcouf (first appearance); Cornell University (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Sonderkommando (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Iskander Mirza (6th appearance, last in 2008; rescued from Ineligible)

2015 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 08:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Omitted: Battle of Lepanto; Robert Surcouf; Cornell University; Sonderkommando; Iskander Mirza
 * Included: Santa Catalina Island, California (4th appearance, last in 2010); Royal Proclamation of 1763 (3rd appearance, last in 2013); KLM (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Hua Guofeng (3rd appearance, last in 2013); War in Afghanistan (2001–present) (3rd appearance, last in 2005; rescued from Ineligible)

2016 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 16:55, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Sonderkommando (maintenance)
 * New articles (unused): Highland Park Ford Plant
 * Omitted: Santa Catalina Island, California; Royal Proclamation of 1763; KLM; War in Afghanistan (2001–2014) (ineligible—maintenance)
 * Included: Robert Surcouf (2nd appearance, last in 2014); 1916 Cumberland vs. Georgia Tech football game (first appearance; 100th anniversary); Bombing of Banski dvori (first appearance; 25th anniversary); Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 10th anniversary)
 * Repeats: Hua Guofeng (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 40th anniversary)

2017 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 02:50, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: KLM (maintenance); Air France (maintenance); Great Flood of 1993 (maintenance)
 * Omitted: 1916 Cumberland vs. Georgia Tech football game; Hua Guofeng (ineligible—maintenance); Bombing of Banski dvori; Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya
 * Included: Battle of La Motta (1513) (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Battle of Kings Mountain (3rd appearance, last in 2010); Iskander Mirza (7th appearance, last in 2014); 1985 Puerto Rico floods (first appearance); Stanisław Żółkiewski (first appearance); Niels Bohr (first appearance); Marie Lloyd (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Robert Surcouf (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

2018 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 15:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Lepanto (maintenance)
 * Omitted: Battle of Kings Mountain; Iskander Mirza (ineligible—maintenance); 1985 Puerto Rico floods; Stanisław Żółkiewski; Niels Bohr; Marie Lloyd
 * Included: Cornell University (4th appearance, last in 2014; 150th anniversary); Operation Breakthrough (first appearance; 30th anniversary); 2008 TC3 (first appearance; 10th anniversary); Guru Gobind Singh (first appearance); Charles XIII of Sweden (first appearance); Beatrice Hutton (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Battle of La Motta (1513) (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Robert Surcouf (3rd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

2019 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 16:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Death of Edgar Allan Poe (Poe is POTD for 2019)
 * New articles (ineligible): Charles the Simple (maintenance)
 * New articles (unused): Mariano Gagnon; Helmut Lent
 * Omitted: Battle of La Motta (1513); Robert Surcouf; Cornell University; Operation Breakthrough; 2008 TC3; Guru Gobind Singh; Charles XIII of Sweden; Beatrice Hutton
 * Included: Santa Catalina Island (California) (5th appearance, last in 2015); Highland Park Ford Plant (first appearance); Sonderkommando (3rd appearance, last in 2014; 75th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); Anna Politkovskaya/Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (Anna: first appearance; Assassination: 3rd appearance, last in 2016); Stanisław Żółkiewski (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Harold Geiger (first appearance); Charlotte Perrelli (first appearance)

2020 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 04:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Death of Edgar Allan Poe; KLM
 * Omitted: Santa Catalina Island (California); Highland Park Ford Plant; Sonderkommando; Anna Politkovskaya/Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya; Harold Geiger; Charlotte Perrelli
 * Included: Royal Proclamation of 1763 (4th appearance, last in 2015); Robert Surcouf (5th appearance, last in 2018); 1985 Puerto Rico floods (2nd appearance, last in 2017); 2008 TC3 (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Mariano Gagnon (first appearance); Helmut Lent (first appearance)
 * Repeats: Stanisław Żółkiewski (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 400th anniversary)

2021 notes
— howcheng  {chat} 01:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: KLM (maintenance); Niels Bohr (POTD for 2021)
 * Omitted: Royal Proclamation of 1763; Robert Surcouf; 1985 Puerto Rico floods; 2008 TC3; Stanisław Żółkiewski; Mariano Gagnon; Helmut Lent
 * Included: Battle of La Motta (1513) (5th appearance, last in 2018); Death of Edgar Allan Poe (4th appearance, last in 2012); Sonderkommando (4th appearance, last in 2019); Bombing of Banski dvori (2nd appearance, last in 2016; 30th anniversary); Pierre Le Muet (first appearance); Uncle Dave Macon (first appearance); Michelle Alexander (first appearance)

2022 notes
 Heart  (talk) 04:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Moved to Ineligible: Death of Edgar Allan Poe (used recently)
 * New articles (unused): Masumi Mitsui
 * Omitted: Battle of La Motta (1513); Sonderkommando; Bombing of Banski dvori; Pierre Le Muet; Uncle Dave Macon; Michelle Alexander
 * Included: Robert Surcouf (6th appearance, last in 2020); Satake clan (first appearance); Death and state funeral of Mindon Min (first appearance); Japanese Micronesians; Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (4th appearance, last in 2019); Guru Gobind Singh (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Marie Lloyd (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Helmut Lent (2nd appearance, last in 2020)