Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/Brian K Horton

The Naming of Names
Hi /. This may seem like a distinction without a difference but some socks were recently (re?)identified as and others as. Wikinger is globally banned, MickMacNee is globally locked, and at least one definite sock of Brian K Horton,, is also globally locked. and got moved to Wikinger, after a bit of to-and-fro, but most versions of BorkNein appear to be identified as Brian K Horton. I presume this was a joe-job, as says. Or are the BorkNein accounts all the same?

As far as I understand it, there are two LTAs here: Is that correct?
 * (aka, etc)
 * (aka, etc)

And is the negative finding re also a definite negative for MickMacNee and socks? Also should this casepage be merged with MickMacNee? I'm just trying to understand what name I should use to identify future socks, because it's 100% certain that neither of them is going away any time soon. Guy (help! - typo?) 12:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * In terms of Wikinger, yes there have only been those two accounts. Wikinger does do other stuff, and I've deliberately withheld from Wikinger's SPI some other unrelated things they've been up to recently. This may not be the last we'll see of Wikinger. But at this time it's only those two. As for the rest, we have a clear line of checkuser evidence for everyone going back to Brian K Horton - except, as far as I know, one inconclusive result from me about Jack B Williamson (and here Bradv is welcome to correct me to clear up any confusion). The relationship to MickMacNee is as far as I know unproven. From what I've seen it is possible, but technically we're probably not going to get any more than that. (And Knowledge Contributor0 is still unrelated to everyone) -- zzuuzz (talk) 12:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Can we somehow fix things so that I never go to a sockmaster's case page and see (either on the case page or the user pages) a template that says that the sockmaster is a sockpuppet of some other sockmaster? I find it annoying, and I am sure that new users find it to be confusing. Perhaps replacing the generic template with a simple sentence explaining how they are linked? --Guy Macon (talk) 12:54, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Is Special:Diff/983134946 better? Unfortunately, I can't directly link to anything off-wiki. was the first Brian K Horton account to have disrupted Meta (m:Special:Contributions/Jack B Williamson), which qualified all of these accounts for global locks. There is an open request for CheckUser on Meta at . —  Newslinger   talk   13:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That's much clearer. Now anyone reading the page will be able to easily figure out what the rewlation between the names is. Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 13:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * And, if you were able to link off-wiki, which Wikipedia accounts would you be linking together? -- zzuuzz (talk) 13:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I would link together, , , , , and all of the accounts in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Brian K Horton. For many years, the individual behind these accounts has been giving very detailed commentary on their Wikipedia activities in multiple off-wiki forums in the same writing style that they employ on-wiki. You can enter the rabbit hole at . —  Newslinger  talk   13:38, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , ugh. I redirected the talk page. It's still in the history if anyone cares to look. Guy (help! - typo?) 22:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , perfect, thanks. Guy (help! - typo?) 14:31, 12 October 2020 (UTC)