Wikipedia talk:Suspected sock puppets/Kdbuffalo


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 * I am most certainly not associated with this person. This is nothing more than another desperate intimidation tactic in a long line of the same used by Orangemarlin in an attempt to silence legitimate, sourced, good faith edits made by myself which run contrary to his POV edits.  When I am cleared of this accusation (just as I was cleared of all of his attempts to accuse me of vandalism), I intend to seek sanctions against Orangemarlin for his continual bad faith, uncivil accusations. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 14:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you this user Jinxmchue? You took it upon yourself to remove sockpuppet evidence from his page |here.  And it seems you share the first five digits of his other IP accounts. Aunt Entropy (talk) 17:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's me. I retired the username and stopped regularly editing on WP. I do not (can't, actually) log in anymore and my IP changes from time to time completely out of my control.  As to why I made that edit, I wanted to see if the smear-mongers were still stalking me. Obviously, you are. In any case, that "evidence" and accusation are several months old and nothing has ever come of it, so was there really any harm in removing it? The sockpuppet accusation is based upon one instance of an admitted error on my part due to confusion over time stamps.  Of course, the smear-mongers seized upon that minor and isolated error, blew it out of proportion into a false accusation of my using accounts abusively and have fervently and unfairly used it against me ever since. I strongly suspect that history will repeat itself now. Let the smearing begin. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 19:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep. I was right. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 19:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter, different sock, same behavior problems. Withdraw this thing.  He'll be blocked one way or another.   Orange Marlin  Talk• Contributions 20:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering if Orangemarlin will take the time to actually back up his accusation with substantive and non-erroneous evidence. I mean, it's a pretty basic and easily disproved error when my IP address tracks back to St. Cloud, Minnesota, not Minneapolis. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 03:30, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I just read Orangemarlin's reply to Yechiel's request here to answer questions on this page. This very explicitly proves his belligerence to reasonable requests and all around bad attitude as well as the complete lack of merit regarding this accusation. His "whatever" should be responded to in kind in the ultimate conclusion of this case. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 17:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Questions for OrangeMarlin: Do you have any evidence to back up your assertion? It's generally very difficult to link any current user to a past user who was banned many months ago. From my experience, these can be the most difficult cases to review. Without a single diff of evidence to look at, how can I evaluate your allegation? Also, you accuse the anonymous user of "Tendentious editing to a large number of Intelligent design related articles." Some users have accused you of exactly the same thing. How can you suggest blocking an anonymous user who has edited for more than a month when you are clearly involved in a conflict with this user? How do you know that Kdbuffalo and the anon are not just two different users who share an opinion, if that? Yechiel (Shalom) 15:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Questions for the anonymous user: Do you or have you ever used a Wikipedia user account? In what city do you live? (If it's a small city that might invade your privacy to reveal, give a county or area code instead.) Yechiel (Shalom) 15:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have used a user account, yes, but I retired it a while ago and do not edit regularly anymore. I live in the 320 area code, which is most assuredly not Minneapolis. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 16:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed the anonymous user was blocked on May 31 for edit warring. Still, I need evidence of a more recent problem. Yechiel (Shalom) 15:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The only problem is a certain group of people pushing a POV agenda on articles about ID, Creationism and evolution. The issue that brought about this particular attempt to intimidate me into silence involved a phony quote. It wasn't "misattributed."  It was an outright falsehood that has been spread around to smear the person to whom it is attributed.  (And I seem to recall reading something about blatant falsehoods being okay to delete with prejudice and without discussion.)  Wikipedia should not be a haven for such falsehoods and the people that promote them.  Yet it is such a haven because a small group of POV pushers (including a couple of admins) defend each others edits to get around the 3RR and threaten and intimidate anyone and everyone who opposes their POV.  If I had not addressed the phony quote and had not involved editors outside the group mentioned, it would still be on WP as gospel truth. 67.135.49.116 (talk) 16:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)