Wikipedia talk:Suspected sock puppets/User:Hdayejr

Blocked or banned?
Is Hdayejr blocked or banned? User ChrisP2K5 was reverting all of the edits of a suspected sock of Hdayejr on the grounds that it was a user evading a ban, but it appears to me that he is only blocked (incidentally, Chris was very rude to me despite the fact that I was clearly acting in good faith, but that's beside the point). Based on what Chris has alleged -- and I see every reason to believe him -- it appears Hdayejr should be outright banned from the project...? --Jaysweet (talk) 19:36, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

If there's anyway to do so, I believe it should come to fort now, due to this recent exchange between he and I on alt.tv.game-shows (apologies in advance for the language I used):



--ChrisP2K5 (talk) 01:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

If I may offer an opinion, User:Hdayejr should be banned. I didn't realize he wasn't already banned, but his history of sockpuppetry, personal attacks, profanity, vendettas, outings, and assorted other brands of incivil conduct has no place here. He's shown an eagerness to make things personal very quickly, and to completely disregard any rules of wikipedia or common decency. A quick look at the sockpuppets he's created during his block will show that, and his everyday attacks through IP addresses should also be a dead giveaway.

I don't think it matters to him, since he's already shown he's thoroughly committed to disruption, but a ban is completely warranted. Dayewalker (talk) 03:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

How Do we ban this guy? How does a sysop ban him? Is an idef block on his ips possible at all? Is a rangerblock possible?—  Dæ dαlusContribs /Improve 04:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

There's gotta be a way. If he's made it a vendetta to get me off the encyclopedia, then there's no doubt what needs to be done. The question is how. --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 04:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what the way is. I remember Daedalus posting a question to the ANI board and they shot it down pretty quickly because of his IPs. That's one reason I was making sure to add each and every sockpuppet and IP address he vandalized from. I was hoping some admins would notice how determined he is to disrupt, and help us out. Any ideas? Dayewalker (talk) 05:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

What about a restraining order? He has one against another media organization (the Dayton Daily News, which includes their website)...--ChrisP2K5 (talk) 18:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Since I first asked about this, it's been made clear to me that an indef block of this sort is a de facto community ban. No need to file extra paperwork; Chris was right to revert the changes.  Man, it's been so long since Chris and I had that issue, I can't even remember the details, I jsut remember something about the reverts made me suspicious, but once it was explained who the heck Hdayejr was, it made sense to me.  heh... --Jaysweet (talk) 18:30, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just in case we need more evidence he won't stop, just today User:68.31.115.90 and User:Palmertroll have appeared. Dayewalker (talk) 19:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You gotta be kidding me... --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 19:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sadly, no. Here's another one from this afternoon User talk:99.205.213.99. Dayewalker (talk) 01:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Re:the inappropriate comment that Jaysweet removed: I think that making a comment based on a user's identity just makes you look guilty, no? --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 18:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep, from Friday, June 27, 2008, User:70.9.205.243 chimed in here talking about how he wasn't a sockpuppet with his second edit, even though his first contribution clearly marked him as such. Dayewalker (talk) 18:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Like I said, guys. Restraining order. Might help. --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 19:44, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hdayejr is nothing compared to some of our more prolific sockmasters. Check out  to see a sample of `s dirty work.  --Kralizec! (talk) 20:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

In other words, you're not gonna do anything. Let me ask you this: how much longer do you think it's going to take for Hdayejr to get to that level? He's well on his way. Get real. He's just as bad, if not worse, than the resident sockmasters. --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 03:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Who says we are not doing anything about it already? WP:DENY and especially WP:RBI appear to be appropriate here.  --Kralizec! (talk) 15:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that he's still doing it, perhaps? The fact that it's impossible to ignore? It's not going to stop. He doesn't care if you ignore him or deny him recognition. --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 19:33, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What would you recommend we do? The ready availability of rollback makes WP:RBI startlingly easy.   --Kralizec! (talk) 22:15, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and the fact that he's still doing it makes RBI worthless in this case. --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 02:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As I asked above, what do you feel we should do? --Kralizec! (talk) 13:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And as I said above, outright ban, restraining order...--ChrisP2K5 (talk) 20:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * A restraining order is not a very practical solution as the Foundation has better things to do with its money, and for our purposes there is no difference between an indefinitely blocked vs. banned editor. I fully appreciate your frustration with this permanently blocked editor, but do you have any realistic suggestions, or are you just venting?  --Kralizec! (talk) 21:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * A restraining order's not realistic? Banning outright isn't realistic? I'm starting to wonder, with the recent lawsuit pending against the Foundation by certain people in my home state, what the purpose of the foundation really is. --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 23:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not sure what you are meaning when you asked if an outright ban is or is not realistic. Since Hdayejr is already indefinitely blocked, I am not sure what a ban would gain us in this situation.  --Kralizec! (talk) 23:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It would gain us all a little time that we otherwise would've spent reverting and rolling back the edits that he and his sockpuppets and IP socks make, perhaps? It would keep him off this forum permanently. And did you or did you not notice the ATGS post I cited where he said he would make sure I was off Wikipedia? --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 00:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't have rollback yet, can I ask you for it, or should I make a request somewhere else? Thanks! Dayewalker (talk) 22:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:ROLLBACK. Using it, I have been able to revert about thirty vandalism/sock edits in under five minutes.  --Kralizec! (talk) 00:07, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

And the recent revert spree just proves my point. When will it end? --ChrisP2K5 (talk) 06:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)