Wikipedia talk:TWA/Portal





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More funky, or… …less funky.

Sit down, have a cup. While you're here something to muse on:
 * Think about what an awesome trip you're on,
 * How many millions of people benefit from Wikipedia every day,
 * How marvelous it is that people all over the world have collaborated to create this unique resource,
 * How important sharing knowledge is,
 * How people working together over time can do amazing things.

'''Hope that was an inspiring musing. 😎-😇''' all to help u guys!

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Need help with something in The Wikipedia Adventure?
 * You can drop by the Teahouse where friendly hosts will assist you
 * You can pop into live IRC chat to talk to someone
 * You can leave a question right here

Tips for feedback
Tell us what you liked about it, where we could improve, and what you learned
 * How you can help
 * Play the game all the way through. Do you get stuck anywhere?  Is anything unclear?
 * Finish the game if you only played a few missions: Give some attention to missions 5-7 (which have been tested much less)
 * Start over fresh with a new account: Like User:OcaasiTWA17 (these are legitimate alternate testing accounts and are not considered sockpuppets)
 * Try a different browser: If you used Safari, try Firefox (or Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera...)
 * Show the game to a friend or family member to see how they like it and if they get stuck anywhere


 * In your feedback, please include any of your thoughts on:
 * text instructions within the game
 * graphic placement
 * bugs in the tour mechanics
 * your web browser
 * your screen resolution
 * which step of the tour you were on if something didn't work (see the step= in the url)
 * what you liked
 * what you didn't like
 * what you think would work better
 * your thoughts on the design: the theme, the guide, the characters, the colors, the images, the sounds

Feedback
...EVERYTHING SO FUN I learned wiki editing so fun! thanks for making this
 * What I liked:

...honestly, nothing
 * What I didn't like:

...more missions!!!
 * What I wanted more of:

...nothing!
 * What was unnecessary:

...make more series!!
 * Any other thoughts you want to share:

--Preview83 (talk) 05:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Feedback
Hello, I'm not able to play TWA. I'm stuck on the "Login or create an account" popup, and when I press any button, it shows a blue outline but doesn't redirect me anywhere. Yyeeetlol (talk) 14:20, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I have the same problem. GoldRomean (talk) 03:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Me too I can't click on the blue button Neko UwU  she/her  23:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ocaasi sorry to disturb you, because you're probably really busy, but we can't play TWA. As Yyeeetlol described, I can't press any white buttons; they just show blue outlines. I really want to play this reportedly awesome Wikipedia-learning game! Personally, I've tried 2 browsers (Chrome and Edge), as well as 2 different computers. I've also refreshed and attempted to play on different days. The funny thing is, I tried to play when I first made my account, too, and it worked fine (I just quit). Friendly people at Wikipedia Live Chat pointed me here; but the original message hasn't received a response for almost a week, so I was wondering if you could help. Thank you. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 23:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I did indeed miss the original message, but I saw your first "I have the same problem" but didn't reply not thinking I could say anything useful. Anyway, this issue is known about and has been filed on Phabricator as T364062. Given the way Wikipedia's software deployment system works, it will not be addressed until at least next Thursday, more likely the Thursday after next. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, TYSM! I'll try again then. GoldRomean (talk) 00:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I've added a warning to the home page to make it clear that it's broken. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:25, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I can confirm this will indeed start working next Thursday (see WP:Bug reports and feature requests for why this happens on Thursdays). * Pppery * it has begun... 15:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This has now been fixed (sooner then I expected because someone decided to backport it rather than waiting for the standard deployment schedule). * Pppery * it has begun... 22:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Fix ping: * Pppery * it has begun...  22:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Royal Silver  00:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Pppery forgot to ping Royal Silver  00:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yay, I can play now! Tysm for your help. GoldRomean (talk) 17:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Edit request
In the notice make changes as follows:

Just a small grammar fix for admins to do. Pinging User:Pppery because you added the notice. thetechie@enwiki :  ~/talk/  $  02:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * If you reply, please ping me.  thetechie@enwiki  :  ~/talk/  $  02:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ * Pppery * it has begun... 03:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Blue start button not working properly
Not sure if this is happening with other people, but the Blue Start This Adventure button is acting weirdly for me. Not every part of the button is working. The left part of the button is clickable while the right part isn't.--Mrb Rafi (talk) 13:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Fixed. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

New version incoming
I've mostly finished a rewrite of the Wikipedia adventure to fix a bunch of bugs. Major changes include: Code is at MediaWiki:Guidedtour-tour-twa1sandbox.js through MediaWiki:Guidedtour-tour-twa7sandbox.js, but unfortunately it's difficult to test since internal links and such hardcode the name of the tour. What I did was add logic at User:Pppery (alt)/common.js to auto-load the sandbox version, but that workaround itself sometimes causes stray guiders to appear that shouldn't.
 * 1) Support both VisualEditor and the source editor.
 * 2) Send replies using DiscussionTools rather than the source editor.
 * 3) Don't send duplicate badges or talk messages - if a mission expects a page to not exist then overwrite its entire content if it does, otherwise append content only if it doesn't already exist, staying in the same frame.
 * 4) Messages now have proper timestamps and don't spew unused code (this part's already been deployed)
 * 5) Some general cleanup of wording etc.

A few things are dependent on upstream patches to the GuidedTour code (i.e the "I'm logged in" screen should be auto-skipped but isn't pending 1031109, it generates a redundant back button for most steps pending 1031113, etc.), so it isn't ready to be deployed for a week or two.

It's also a known issue that when using VisualEditor the boxes occasionally appear in awkward places - VisualEditor's Javascript scrolling and GuidedTour don't always mix perfectly. I tried to put it in a reasonable place all the time, but I may have missed some. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I decided to stop waiting for WMF's broken code review process to happen and instead work around the upstream issues. I intend to deploy this in a few days. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:22, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This is now live. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Feedback
I liked how TWA covered most of Wikipedia's main points like NPOV and BEBOLD. It's a pretty simple tutorial for new editors.
 * What I liked:

Many of the images I had to add to the Earth article didn't seem like images that would be on such an article on the real Wikipedia. This could be misleading. The whole game was also glitchy (for example, on many pages the "talk" "page history" etc. buttons were invisible, so I had to randomly click near the top to access it. Also, I know your progress "saves" after each "level" but I forgot what level I was on so had to start near the beginning.
 * What I didn't like:

You couldn't actually analyze the citations and had to guess their reliability by their titles. Also, the game provided the actual citation for you. I wanted to learn how to do that formatting myself.
 * What I wanted more of:

The cool "space" design on every page, since it feels different than real Wikipedia.
 * What was unnecessary:

It's a nice game. Thanks for making it. It's very glitchy, though. There were a few grammar errors.
 * Any other thoughts you want to share:

--GoldRomean (talk) 19:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I've updated the images to ones more relevant to the specific sections they're in, which are either used on the real Earth article or a related one. The rewrite discussed above will teach you how to use an automatic tool to generate citations. I'm not sure what you mean re "talk" "page history" etc. buttons - I don't think you're ever told to click on such a button. This game has no concept of progress per se - very little will break if you skip missions entirely other than leaving you confused.  If you can point to specific places where the grammar is awkward I would be happy to reword them. And thank you for playing, and sorry that it had so many rough edges. * Pppery * it has begun...  00:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Feedback
...The simplicity
 * What I liked:

...The UI
 * What I didn't like:

...More visual
 * What I wanted more of:

...Nothing
 * What was unnecessary:

...Excellent way to start
 * Any other thoughts you want to share:

--Tblocks (talk) 11:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Feedback
It was straightforward and easy to understand.
 * What I liked:

It was a bit too simple to be honest, a lot of it felt like a children's game. But I guess there are Wikipedia editors of all ages so that's alright. It broke in some sections so I had to go back to where I started for some missions. Also the page for my Earth didn't show up properly I think.
 * What I didn't like:

More missions.
 * What I wanted more of:

I think it would be better for us to find a page we are actually interested in and get guidance there.
 * What was unnecessary:

...
 * Any other thoughts you want to share:

--Quote Veteran (talk) 09:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)