Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines

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Baguio Midland Courier
In light of the regional weekly publication ceasing their operations next month, I created a draft article so that other contributors can make the relevant improvements and hopefully move it to mainspace before the release of its final article on July 21. -Ian Lopez @ 08:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * To those who heeded the call to make relevant improvements to the said page, thank you. I'll be submitting the draft for review. -Ian Lopez @ 15:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

No article and scientific name for dalandan
Currently, there is no article specific to dalandan on the English Wikipedia.

The closest there is to one is a redirect that currently points to Orange (fruit). However, in the interest of having an article specific to dalandan on the English Wikipedia, I tried to determine if there are any existing articles on dalandan in other languages. Confusingly, there are also conflicting sources on what exact orange species dalandan even is.

Varying sources on Google say that dalandan is Citrus sinensis while others say it is Citrus aurantium. Neither Wikipedia articles on the two species mention dalandan as a local name or the Philippines. On other Wikipedias including the Tagalog Wikipedia specifically, it is claimed to be Citrus sinensis and points toward the translations of the Citrus sinensis article.

Can someone help and figure out which of the two species is really dalandan? Or maybe its a hybrid of a certain species or a completely different species? Ganmatthew (talk • contribs) 16:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Have you tried looking for sources on the Department of Agriculture? Borgenland (talk) 17:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Found this paper from the FDA. Borgenland (talk) 17:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This is pretty helpful. The DA considers calamansi to be Citrus microcarpa var. Bunge while dalandan is Citrus aurantium aka bitter orange.
 * But I'm a bit confused with the scope and with Annex A. Is the DA using calamansi to refer to all limes and dalandan to refer to all oranges? Annex A's table of variations feels like a stretch because it's considering every orange as dalandan as well as pineapple and watermelon for some reason.
 * Also, I think I've heard often that dalandan supposedly doesn't turn orange, so calling it an orange is weird. Ganmatthew (talk • contribs) 09:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I'm also just as confused with what the hell a King and a Hamlin is. Borgenland (talk) 13:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The redirect history shows it was a previous article than had been redirected to Orange (fruit). There might be useful information there. In them meantime, I added to the redirect R with possibilities and R to article without mention. Sanglahi86 (talk) 15:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Need background on a possible incident I might be involved with
Hello! I am currently involved in an investigation regarding a WP:NEWSPAPER and WP:COPYVIO case of a user who is not a member of Tambayan but is also engaged in editing Philippine articles. For transparency, I am not the one under the spotlight but now I am confused since the said other user is alleged to be the sock of an old banned user under the name JudgeFloro or something similar to that. Can anyone enlighten me as to what happened before that? Borgenland (talk) 14:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * was a prolific photo uploader who was blocked for sockpuppetry. Per WP:DENY, this isn't really something I'd discuss further here. For further action on socks, follow the WP:SPI process. For further action on on-wiki copyright violations, follow the WP:CCI/WP:CPN process, whichever applicable. Chlod (say hi!) 14:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Borgenland are you referring to me (the other user who is not a member of Tambayan)? I just mentioned a concern by Commons/enwiki admin when they posted the possible Valenzuela400 sockpuppetry on my talk page. Of course, their concern should not be ignored. Also note that I earlier posted this concern on Just Step Sideways' talk page (he was once critical of Judgefloro's uploads (read here); Just Step Sideways' former username was Beeblebrox). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.)  03:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the other user (who is also not in this project). Borgenland (talk) 03:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Borgenland speaking of WP:NEWSPAPER, would Valenzuela400's contribution at SMNI (edit) be a breach of it? It was made in May. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, the details are concise enough. But I think the title should be shortened into Lawsuit/Libel lawsuit and a lot of common terms need to be delinked. Borgenland (talk) 08:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ making the edit. No need to link Rodrigo Duterte as the link already exists two times in sections above. Still, cyberlibel needs to be linked as it is a term not used outside the Philippines (a Philippine English-exclusive invention). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

UAAP season 61
Calling for an admin to revert the move, back to UAAP Season 61. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Anyone? Howard the Duck (talk) 10:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Bagong Silang
The law splitting the brgy was signed on April 5, with a plebiscite expected to have been held before earlier this month? Any updates? Borgenland (talk) 09:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Per COMELEC's announcement on June 20, the plebiscite for Bagong Silang, Caloocan will be held on August 31, 2024. -Ian Lopez @ 09:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Buendia station (PNR) § Merge with Dela Rosa station
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Buendia station (PNR) § Merge with Dela Rosa station, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. 360kong (talk) 09:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Online RS
I notice that our wikiproject doesn't have a Online RS list to discuss to if pinoymountaineer.com is a WP:RS or not?

On that topic, should we create one? Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support. Borgenland (talk) 14:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support -- Lenticel ( talk ) 00:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Actually, there is an existing proposal for a RS list that was started by @Ianlopez1115 and can be found here. We can build off the list of sources there, which are already quite plenty. Ganmatthew (talk • contribs) 04:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support expanding 's list. HueMan1 (talk) 05:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support expanding 's list; query: how to add the Northern Dispatch (a Northern Luzon / Cordillera focused online news website) to the list? - MistahPeemayer (talk) 06:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Support: Vouching for Ian's list, though some partisan sources e.g. SMNI could be questionable at best especially given Quiboloy's recent legal troubles. A number of scholarly sources have deemed SMNI to exhibit far-right bias, not to mention that they use it to sing praises of their leader Kim dynasty style. Blake Gripling (talk) 07:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Per the responses above, I moved the proposal for a RS list from my sandbox to a subpage. As for the Northern Dispatch entry, I added it to the list under "Local and regional". -Ian Lopez @ 09:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * With the list created by @Ianlopez1115 now formalized, I think we can now close this discussion. Anyway, excellent list that can be a supplement to WP:RSPSOURCES for Philippine-originated references. The question is, where will the discussions and/or consensus-reaching regarding the reliability of sources take place? JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:51, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the subpage's talk page itself --> Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Sources Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 10:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * , I envision that discussions about reliable sources be centralized to the reliable sources noticeboard; however I wouldn't mind if relevant discussions are held at the talk page (this is also done at WikiProject Video games' RS list). -Ian Lopez @ 10:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Taking a few more steps back from this particular tree to get a wider view of the forest, it occurs to me to wonder whether some sources often cited in articles related to the Philippines ought to have entries at WP:RSP. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, Rappler is already listed there. —seav (talk) 08:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

New task force
Do you think there should be a task force for Philippine Infrastructure? I don't know the name of the task force (if supported) but I'm just reaching out to see your thoughts on this.

Thanks,  13:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Is this strictly limited to transport or will it include government institutions? Borgenland (talk) 13:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant for economy, meaning for Transoprt, Government Institutions, Buildings, Structures, and everything like that.  11:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Philippines's at-large senatorial district
We have had Senatorial districts of the Philippines, but we don't have the "at-large" district that is currently used. I've thought through several ways to present this, with the idea that the presenation should not be markedly different with articles such as Philippines's 1st senatorial district. I've made a mock-up at User:Howard the Duck/sandbox7. There are two versions to this: One includes the term of office in the cell along with the name and party, while the second one has a separate columns of terms of office. If you have other ideas on how to do this, just let me know. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:26, 20 July 2024 (UTC)