Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Adventure/Archive 2

Individual Engagement Grant proposal
After a long break due to the closure/reorganization of the Fellowships program, The Wikipedia Adventure is back under an Individual Engagement Grants proposal. Although old endorsements from the previous application are still relevant, should you want to re-endorse, review, or comment on the proposal you can do so at the bottom of the page here: M:Grants:IEG/The_Wikipedia_Adventure. Cheers! Ocaasit &#124; c 16:26, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

GuidedTour
I'm the lead developer on the GuidedTour extension, a tool the Editor Engagements Experiments team has developed to guide users through MediaWiki processes. Although The Wikipedia Adventure is also a game, it seems as though GuidedTour might be a good fit.

Take a look at the documentation, and let me know if I can clarify anything. Superm401 - Talk 22:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have read your proposal before commenting. I hope the above is still helpful though. Superm401 - Talk 22:44, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

This looks awesome! / Wikimania 2014

 * First of all, this looks amazing! This is a really great initiative, with all sorts of applications to lots of groups! I really hope this is a successful project!!


 * Secondly - I'm running a bid to hold Wikimania in London 2014; it'll be decided whether we win in a few weeks. We're planning a very substantial public PR push and public engagement tracks/workshops, and I'd love for this software to be a significant destination for this attention. Please let's stay in touch over your progress, and to see how we can integrate this into our event. EdSaperia (talk) 10:11, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Misc for deletion
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure, date August 1, 2013

MfD discussion lessons
I wonder if it's worth summarising the key points of the mfd discussion somewhere easily accessible? It'd be a good way to show good faith towards the valid concerns raised there, and provide a way to indicate when they're addressed and/or(if they already have been) how. I might be able to give some help on that Sjgknight (talk) 08:43, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The key concerns of the mfd discussion were that the game could potentially attract younger editors, and that its tone might attract non-serious or non-competent people. These are fears that we have no actual evidence for.  Its also possible--indeed it was designed--to attract editors we do want (but from different demographics than we already have), or from editors who are turned off by the many challenges and general tone of the new editor experience.  It might even attract some of the serious academics and professionals who still need an easy entry-point, even though the tone was not aimed at them explicitly (we aimed for college-aged men and women).  Also worth mentioning that this might not be the only version of such a tour.  Once could be designed to go after academics/specialists specifically.  I might make that, or someone else could adapt my code to do it.  In any case, the plan is to  a) finish building, b) test on a random, controlled sample.  Check out the plan at WP:The Wikipedia Adventure/Impact and feel free to add your thoughts.  A significant part of the analysis will be not only editor retention and activity, but number of warnings/blocks, and a quality-assessment by the machine-learning algorithm which runs the anti-vandal tool STiki.  For child protection, we'll certainly be mindful of any suspicious activity and report it appropriately.  In short, though, we can't make good decisions until we have good data, and the plan is to use the design we have so we can get it.  Also, if you want to add details from your reading of the mfd below here, that'd be great.  Thanks,  Sjg! Ocaasit &#124; c 18:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Category
Rather than falling under Category:Wikipedia games, The Wikipedia Adventure looks more along the lines of New admin school that we created in 2007. The Wikipedia Adventure might fit better in Category:Wikipedia Education Program than Wikipedia games. The Wikipedia Education Program category includes the "Wikipedia training for" series. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:30, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Potential minor problem
I tried the first mission and upon the final dialog ("Say hello to Wikipedia") the button didn't disappear after clicking it. Thinking I had misclicked, I pressed again yet still nothing happened; but I then checked my talk page and saw I had two messages (which I hadn't been notified of since it was my account doing the editing). What if editors repeatedly click on the button and subsequently spam their own talkpage? benzband ( talk ) 16:26, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * , I've suspected this may be an issue and am not sure how widespread the problem is. We've fixed the tour so that it doesn't break if people resend messages, and I have tried replicating this bug and for some reason even if I click 10 or 20 times it doesn't happen to me.  What browser are you using?  I will ask my code consultant expert if there's a way to error-proof this one so it can only send one message at a time.  Thanks for your close eye and for helping me catch the little remaining bugs! Ocaasit &#124; c 17:21, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm using Firefox 25.0.1 on Mac. After trying again I've realized that when I click the button, it posts a message to my talkpage without shutting the dialog, but when I click again it doesn't post a message. It only posts additional messages if I open a new page, with the dialog still open, and then click on the dialog again. (I'm not 100% sure though.) benzband  ( talk ) 17:33, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

My one bicnes
जय शिवराय Sairaj999 (talk) 15:45, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

This does not seem very good
As someone who has edited from an IP before, I have some idea what I'm doing. But I thought I'd try this "adventure" out. The first thing it did was make an unapproved edit to my talk page that appears to have come from me! Not a big deal, but tools should make sure the user knows an edit is being attributed to him or her. The next thing it did was try to get me to create a user page. Sorry, but I'm here to edit things, not immediately try to social network. I gave up at that point, and the overly cute interface didn't help either, since it felt condescending even from my brief interaction. XAilR (talk) 16:16, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey . Too bad you didn't like the game. There is a clear warning beneath the start screen and on the second step of the game that 'automatic messages are sent to your userpages'.  It's literally the second screen you see, with a bold header that says automatic edits.  Not sure I could make that any more clear.  It appears that this game is simply not for you, and that's ok!  There are lots of different ways to get involved on Wikipedia and the Wikipedia Adventure is just one of them.  Some people will like the social supportive welcoming and playful nature of the game, and some, like you, will not.  I hope you find other ways to get involved.  Best, Ocaasit &#124; c 16:59, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I guess my complaint there is still that it's not clear about attribution (I assumed those edits would be made by a bot), but maybe that's okay. Perhaps something like "These edits will show up in your personal contribution history" would help, but then again, a message like that might confuse a true newbie...and not being a true newbie, I imagine this isn't really targeted for me. Still, the first message (not the self-posted one) was something that did get automatically posted on my talk page, so if I was a completely new editor, I'd probably take it as an "official welcome" as sorts, likely not knowing better...so I'd worry about driving away some of those new editors who also just don't like the interface or whatever. XAilR (talk) 17:10, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

"Logo" used for TWA
The logo used for "The Wikipedia Adventure" is bizarre (cf. File:TWA guide.svg). Is there some sort of previous discussion that led to its creation? Or some documentation about it? If it's meant to encapsulate Wikipedia, it does a fine job of portraying a monster. Killiondude (talk) 00:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Killiondude. I see you've met Phil O'Sophy, our gender neutral, race-neutral, possibly extraterrestrial galaxy guide avatar.  Despite the peculiar visual characteristics, Sophy is warm, smart, and kind, just the type of person you'd like to have around as you learn about our community.  Sophy is not 'representative of Wikipedia', so much as a nod to our vast mission and its universal importance.  Sophy fits nicely in space, is comfortable with newcomers, and has a twinkle inside its eyes.  We've gotten lots of different reactions to Sophy so far, but monster is a new one!  I assure you, Sophy is a friend and not a monster.  Ocaasit &#124; c 02:04, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I believe it's more of a "mascot" than a "logo." --MZMcBride (talk) 04:29, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Reference error
One to think about. See the history of User:Keerthi 340/TWA/Earth/2 - it looks odd to have four copies of the same text. The error message at the bottom led to [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_errors/Cite_error_refs_without_references&diff=586645330&oldid=585704836 a confused edit] to Help:Cite errors/Cite error refs without references. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:06, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the heads up. The repeated content is the only way Guided Tours can have people repeat the game, so that is a somewhat inelegant but best possible for now solution.  I'm confused why a cite error is showing up.  All the are closed and there are 4 { reflists } for each of the 4 page 'versions'.  Any idea why that error is showing?  Thanks again, Ocaasit &#124; c 15:35, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know why the parser gets confused in quite that way, but Help:MULTIREF shows how to fix it. On the other hand, we don't want to teach our new editors to write everywhere. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Welcome message
Substitution of TWA/Welcome does not work, includeonly tags are not removed. See it in my talk page. --Vriullop (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Question for talk page watchers, which placement is best? User:Ocaasi/sandbox
User:Ocaasi/sandbox Thoughts? Ocaasit &#124; c 18:10, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Sometimes I missed the first sentence above the image, so I prefer first sample with this sentence above the explanatory text, although with no preferences about placement of audio file. The link "Continue on the adventure" is better within as it is not really an external link, and it should have a relative url "//en.wikipedia...", sometimes I found " https://en... " and others " http://en... ". --Vriullop (talk) 21:02, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Bug with the "back" function
Hi,

By testing this tool, I used the rewind feature, then I returned to the stage where I was. Therefore, the tool has added twice the same text in one of my subpages: User: Automatik/TWA/Earth. It seems to be a bug; I was in the mission 3. Automatik (talk) 22:51, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the bug report. That's actually a known bug.  The back button in some cases returns to the prior step that has a URL, but because of the way Guided Tours works, sometimes the last step with a unique URL is actually a few dialog boxes back.  This does indeed result in a resending of messages and duplicated content.  At the moment, there's no way to fix it.  We can either have back buttons and a risk of duplicate messages, or no back buttons at all.  The game architecture is very simple and we opted for the current functionality despite the 'bug'.  Thanks for reporting it.  We'll look into a more sophisticated approach once we have new data on how effective the game is.  Cheers, Ocaasit &#124; c 17:59, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

WP:ADVENTURE
Should probably redirect here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:12, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Loop bug
When i did the wikipedia adventure some time ago (about 2 months) i happen to find one bug in one of the chapters. Somehow, i don't know the exactly reason, i got stuck in a kind of loop which asked me to input an "edit summary" text, redirecting me to the "Edit Source" page, but whenever i did it and pressed the "save the page" button, it would go back to the previous step asking me to go again to the "Edit Source" page and to re-input the "Edit summary" text, over and over again, as if i wasn't inputing anything.

The only way i was able to complete this was starting everything from that chapter again (unfortunately, don't remember which exactly chapter was it.), resulting in a repeated text on my earth page > Link —Preceding undated comment added 05:58, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi yes, you need to go back and make an edit to the text not just an edit summary. So you need to make at least one change to the text and then save it.  That should fix it. Ocaasit &#124; c 12:12, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I post this to a new editor's talk page (if allowed)?
Hi everybody! I saw this game linked on the talk page of a new editor and found it very cool. Am I allowed to post it to other talk pages? If so, how? (I tried various template formats but nothing worked.) Anyway this game is a great initiative and a fun way to learn editing. Lots of thanks to the team that created it! Madalibi (talk) 03:16, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello . To invite someone to play, you can paste this   on their talk page.  We already have a bot running some invites so there's no need to message people en masse.  Instead, just invite those you think would especially benefit from playing it, like new users with whom you have interacted.  Let me know if you have any questions and cheers! Ocaasit &#124; c 05:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ! I was thinking of inviting a small class of 5-6 students from Rice University who have just started posting requests at WP China. Since they're college age and appear to be mostly beginners, I think they'd be perfect candidates for the game. Would that be all right? Madalibi (talk) 06:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * , that'd be great. If you get any feedback from them on the game it'd be neat to know what they think.  Best, Jake Ocaasit &#124; c 06:08, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jake, I'll do just that. And I see you're the game's main writer and creator, so double gratitude! All the best, Madalibi (talk) 06:44, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Adventure didn't work.
'Start the adventure' button doesn't activate when I try to click on it. Is it only for me or for other people too? Thank you in advance for your help. Db9023 (talk) 02:34, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It works for me, it links to and upon clicking takes me to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:TWA/1/Start?tour=twa1 . If the button is inactive for you, perhaps you are using a script-blocking plugin in your browser such as NoScript? In future reports of this type, it is helpful if you note what browser you are using. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:21, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Why are you inviting vandals to this "adventure"
Is it your normal practice to invite editors to this "adventure" who already have 2 vandalism warnings on their talk page ? As it turned out, all 4 of that editor's contributions to date have been vandalism. Voceditenore (talk) 12:02, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Voceditenore. We are using WP:Snuggle's desirability algorithm to invite likely good-faith editors.  This is only a heuristic however and it's not perfect.  (Editors with a score of .8 out of 1 or higher are invited).  Unfortunately, there may be some lag in the dataset where vandalism can happen.  This is the first time I've heard anything of it (out of 20,000 invites), so I'm hoping it's just a fluke.  I will keep looking for any more confirmation we need to rework something.  Also pinging User:Jtmorgan, User:Halfak (WMF) for some technical assistance on the details.  Best, Jake Ocaasit &#124; c 12:30, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It's possible the algorithm doesn't detect deliberate replacement of existing information with false information, e.g., because no "bad words", repeating characters, or blanking are involved, but actually the kind of stuff this editor did was far more damaging to Wikipedia than run-of-the-mill vandalism. I suspect, it happens a fair amount but doesn't get reported here because many editors just revert vandalism and don't bother to warn, or when they do, don't look at the rest of the miscreant's talk page. Voceditenore (talk) 12:43, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * As Ocaasi said, I think that we should expect a small proportion of error. As you observed, this vandalism was non-obvious from a text processing strategy (which is what the scores Snuggle users are based on).  Despite this mistaken invite, it's not clear to me that any harm was caused by extending an invitation to TWA to this user.  In fact, some of my research suggests that you can get vandals to stop vandalizing more quickly by being nice to them. --Halfak (WMF) (talk) 19:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Twinkle integration
I would support integration of a welcome template linking to this tutorial in WP:Twinkle. I use Twinkle and would invite people here if it were easier for me to do so. If someone here makes a proposal at Twinkle then let me know and I will support it. Thanks.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  14:15, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Awesome
This is great! Gareth E Kegg (talk) 23:31, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

The blue button doesn't work
Hey guys, I (User:Piotrus alt account) just tried this in Chrome and IE and the blue button "Start the adventure" doesn't work. There's something wrong here, my Chrome install is totally new (library computer) yet it's blocked? You are using some weird code here; can't you just do a regular link? --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 07:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Second comment: the small blue button with < symbol is too small. Make the < bigger; ut looks like a dot. --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 07:46, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Third comment: "This adventure always uses edit source". Sigh. Can we just acknowledge edit source scares people and redesign this to use the newbie-friendly and eventually default Visual Editor? --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 07:51, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Fourth comment: using Visual Editor closes the Adventure and forces people to restart it. That sucks.
 * Fifth comment: the box popups are often at the very bottom of the screen, forcing people to scroll and look for them. That's annoying. They should be floaters or at least have floating pointers to where they are. --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 07:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Sixth comment: in the Start Mission 2 box, remove the links to editor and formatter. Newbies can click on them, and arrive at a confusing Template page that doesn't tell them how to go back. --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Seventh comment: "Three quick things" comment about signature should introduce the signature button. --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 08:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Eight comment: "A solution" introducing the watchlist - it talks about the star, but... the message hides most of the stars. My newbies are confused as they don't know what star. --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 08:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Two months later - no developer cared enough to respond to my comments here? Disappointing :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:52, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry this got lost. I was understanding that the button doesn't render and instead shows up as just a link?  Is that incorrect and the button just does not work for you in Chrome and IE?  What version of IE are you using?  What operating system is your computer?  Would you try altering your screen zoom, because I suspect that one of the background images may be overlapping the button.  If you zoom to 100% or lower, it will help me understand if that's the problem, because at larger zooms (125%+) it's possible the background circles are just hovering over the button.


 * Weird that the button is showing so small for you. Could you send me a screenshot?


 * We can't integrate this with visual editor yet, for a few reasons. One, we don't want to introduce people to VE until it is default.  Otherwise editors won't have it enabled.  Two, there are some integration bugs between visual editor and guided tours that are still being patched.  It's on the roadmap to make a VE version of TWA, when VE is ready.


 * Unfortunately I can't make the game work with both VE and edit source, so yes using VE breaks the tour. The best I can do at this point is to instruct/warn people to always use edit source, as you noted it does.


 * The bottom-screen boxes should have autoscroll to their location so you don't have to look for them. Is that not happening for you?  Can you give me a specific step of the tour (look in the url for step= ) so I can make sure autoscroll is enabled?


 * Good point about the badge templates not having a return link. I will put that on my list of things to fix!  Great catch.


 * Signature button is a good idea, I will add an icon for that and say, "or use the signature button". Thanks!


 * Good point about the star. I will try to show it as an icon in the guider so it's more obvious and talk about its location so it is easier to see.  I'll also try to move the box so it doesn't block the star.  Thanks again!  Ocaasit &#124; c 18:22, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I am glad to hear from you, I was afraid this project was abandoned. Unfortunately, by know I forgot the details of the problem, and it will be a month and a half before I will be able to stop by the same lab we had our activities. I am glad some of the ideas from the feedback were useful. Next time I am using the Adventure with some students, I'll make sure to send more feedback. Cheers! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:36, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Invitation may not be appropriate for serious skilled contributors
While the "adventure" game may be just the job for many of our younger recruits, I have reservations about extending this invitation to top-grade contributors: those who make substantial, high-quality, serious contributions from the off. These are serious grown-up people, scholars or technical experts, probably with higher degrees. Probably they did loads on Wikipedia before they registered a username. And they are unlikely to be impressed by a cartoony invitation from their "robot friend" to play some game. They are only a small proportion but they're among the ones we most want to hold on to, remember? So I wonder if we could actually miss out those at the *top* end of your "desirability" scale, as well as the bottom end? Failing that, at least could we review the wording and appearance of the invitation, remembering that it's going to a very wide range of viewers? With all respect to your efforts at the Teahouse Noyster  (talk),  09:40, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for a very thoughtful, probing critique.  I could say a lot about what I think happens when people receive this invite, but I'll try to limit the speculation here.  So far we don't really have any anectdotal or descriptive data that these invites are turning people off.  Anectdotally, we don't have folks giving feedback that the game is stupid and beneath them.  Of course that feedback could be selected from those who played/like the game, so we could be missing it.  Statistically, we ran a beta test in January and we found consistent correlational increases in the number of edits from those who played the game, so in aggregate it seems to be working.  We did use two control groups for that analysis--editors who didn't receive an invite, and editors who received an invite but did not play. The 'player' group outperformed both of those.  Of course, that doesn't specifically address those who received an invite, were turned off, and didn't play the game.  And that analysis was fairly basic analysis and we didn't complete proper validation of the numbers to really zero in on impact.  In May we are going to run the numbers again, this time over a much larger time-frame (6 months) to see the long term impact of a) receiving an invite b) playing the game and c) finishing the game.  I will focus on the impact of receiving an invite and see if we can determine any negative effect from it.


 * As for specifics of the invite, do you have any suggestions? Perhaps we could run an A/B test using a very 'not-cartoony' invite against the current invite.


 * I really appreciate your feedback. Pinging  and  for some deeper statistical insight.  Cheers, Ocaasit &#124; c 14:08, 11 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Not sure I have too much "deep" insight to contribute, I'm afraid. I don't know of much previous research on the habits/characteristics of people who are "power IPs" and then register. Anything I could say would only be speculation :) As for A/B testing, it's certainly possible to do. Cheers, - J-Mo  Talk to Me   Email Me  00:57, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not really worried about this. If you're really a power IP who just registered, you're not going to quit over one funny message.  You already know that strange things happen on the English Wikipedia.
 * There are some cultural issues: Someone commented earlier that "space aliens" attracts males while repelling some females, and I think that's probably accurate.  "Cuteness" will attract Japanese people and "fun" will attract people who are hesitant to do anything for fear of making a mistake, while repelling people who want to feel like they're undertaking a terribly serious academic endeavor.  I don't believe that it's possible to have a design that is appealing to everyone.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Through this could be mostly addressed through skins. Doubt this would be high on the project road map, however... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:44, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Turning this into a Wikipedia app
As a lover of the old edutainment games of the 90's, i was thinking about how this project could be implemented in such a way as to be really engaging to potential editors. What if it was expanded to become a Wikipedia app that is structured int he same fashion as an edutainment game ala Carmen Sandiego, or a point and click?--Coin945 (talk) 11:07, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * That's an interesting idea, but for people who never played the game (like me), could you elaborate more on how you'd envision this looking and working? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:42, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Localization
Can someone help me in knowing whether this can be localised? If can be localised, how to do so? --Rahmanuddin Shaik (talk) 09:39, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You would certainly have to translate it into the local language (I assume that you're interested in Telugu?). You might also need to check that all of the content is the same, since some Wikipedias have different policies or tools for some details.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:25, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you WhatamIdoing, Most policies are similar for Wikipedia, as far as the topics covered in TWA. So, I would look at localising it into Telugu. Can I know which all templates are used? and their locations, in short, need all pages that combine to form this exciting game, Navigating through, I am more confused. --Rahmanuddin Shaik (talk) 18:04, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello, Rahmanuddin Shaik. On the project page in the introduction, there is a TOC with links to: Full script and Page index. Those might help with navigation for now. If you do localise TWA for Telugu, please let me know! Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Ocaasi, are you set up for translations at translatewiki.net, or do you have a different system in place? WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, WhatamIdoing, for asking about that. When TWA is set up on translatewiki.net, please let me know. I've been asked about this lately, and I want to make sure I can direct people to where exactly they need to go to help translate. :) Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm also interested in localizing this for ta.wikipedia.org, I see that there are a couple of localizations already in place out of which at least catala one seems to functional. It would be great if Ocaasi or someone replies here with a kind of tutorial for localization of this awesome creation. - ThamizhThambi (talk) 13:57, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed, ThamizhThambi. :) In the meantime, if you do localise TWA for Tamil, please let me know! Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

I *love* TWA and am excited to see it translated into more languages. There's been interest recently in localising TWA for education programs around the world. I am here to support that process however I can. Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Leader of the free world
Hi! While I was playing, I chose one of the joke answers. "All information on Wikipedia should be written by someone who swears that the information is true." The reply was this. "Even a priest, a judge, a doctor, an eye-witness, a teacher, or a bread-maker could swear something is true, and if that doesn't happen in a published source which records their experience, in a publication with a record for fact-checking and accuracy, it doesn't matter who says something is true. You can tell the leader of the free world, "It's not that I don't trust you, but please show me your reliable published source." Who is this leader of the free world? I know that Americans often call the President of the United states the "leader of the free world", but this seems rather biased. I wouldn't have minded something like this on a patriotic website or anything of the sort, but I am slightly annoyed at seeing this right after being told about the "NPOV". I'm sure this wasn't intended to be offensive or anything. I really love everything else in this adventure so far though! JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talk) 17:33, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. I think that it could refer to anyone you want, although you're right that Leader of the free world was commonly used to refer specifically to the US President.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Redundant badges?
Does TWA check if the same editor got a given badge and gets it again? Or is it a feature that if you complete the same mission again, you get two badges of the same kind?

Cheers, Soni (talk) (Previously TheOriginalSoni) 12:41, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, TWA is not smart enough to know what you've completed before. So, it is possible to receive a duplicate badge.  The only way to fix this is manually.  In some hypothetical third round of the grant I could imagine trying to build logic for this scenario, but since the only consequence is an extra piece of harmless text on a userpage, we didn't prioritize it.  Thanks for your question! Ocaasit &#124; c 17:01, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Welcoming: proposal
Hello Adventurers, thought I should maybe draw attention to this proposal at Village Pump Noyster  (talk),  07:21, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Mysterious page
I found User talk:Art LaPella/TWA/Earth in my userspace. It relates to this project, so I presume it appeared long ago when I clicked some of your Great Adventure links out of mild curiosity. I only discovered the page by accident, so it couldn't have served any useful purpose; it must be some kind of bug. Art LaPella (talk) 15:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Too easy to cheat
I was observing a group of students doing this, and they quickly figured out they can get the badges without either 1) doing any edits and 2) even reading the boxes. As such, from the educational / assessment perspective, the adventure is not very helpful, as I cannot assign it to my students and use badges as assessment tool; I still have to check if they made individual edits or not. Plus, this devalues the badges, if one can get them doing nothing. Can acquiring the badges be tied to actually making edits, instead of just clicking through pop up boxes? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:02, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Is a more serious / simpler language version on the roadmap?
As I am teaching ESL students, I also realized the language of the adventure is too difficult for them. They have enough trouble with regular English without having to deal with the jargon present here. And, to be frank, the Planet Earth "bub" style makes me unlikely to recommend this tool for my professional collegues (other professors, etc.). Too many of them wouldn't take it seriously and would be put off by the childish aspect of it. Now, I am not saying gamification is bad; I am just saying that IMHO the adventure as it stands is over the top for two big audiences out there - ESLs and middle age/senior groups. Hopefully redesigning the adventure wouldn't be too difficult; there's even no need to loose the graphics and such - just make the language of interactions more... normal. On the final note, I also think that making the interactions/language more normal would make this entire adventure more useful; editors are unlikely to ever encounter another editor who tries to roleplay some sf scenario... I am even willing to volunteer to help with rewrite if there would be will to code an alt "more serious" version of the adventure. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:09, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

At first login (edited)
Can we trigger TWA popup to appear at first time login after signup for a new user? Does this already happen on English wikipedia? I would like to know, if this TWA can be triggered as a popup in overlay, whenever a new registered user logs in for the first time. --Rahmanuddin Shaik (talk) 21:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Graphics
Hi, where can I find the graphics [badges, icons, sets, et al] for this project? Are they present on the Commons? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Rsrikanth05. Take a look at WP:TWA/Index.  Yes, all of the images are on Commons but I think it's easiest to find them by looking through the Index.  Let me know if you have questions.  Cheers, Jake Ocaasit &#124; c 17:19, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot Jake. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:54, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

What happened?
Invites don't seem to be being sent out to any new users at present. Why has this process stopped? Will the Adventure return? It could be very valuable if presented as one among a number of options for new editors to find their way into Wikipedia Noyster  (talk),  09:28, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Noyster! We discovered a number of critical bugs that arose with the new version of guided tours and some other code changes.  While we have been fixing them (just finished this week), we turned off invites to maximize the chance people would have a good experience when they played.  Pinging Jtmorgan for a bot update.  Thanks and cheers, Ocaasit &#124; c 10:53, 20 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi y'all. HostBot TWA invites have been turned off for over six months, and there is no immediate plan to re-start them. It's a matter of time and priorities. Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me  18:04, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

ADHD
This is lovely:   Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 13:49, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Add the ability to suppress automated edits to user page/talk page
Mostly a thing if any autoconfirmed users try to take TWA, or if someone already has a talk page with actual discussion on it.

Not too much a problem if you are a new user, but for this reason I recommend any Wikipedian that is autoconfirmed to consider that before going to TWA.

For the record, it's good and all, but I'm not satisfied. James1011R (talk, contribs)

Mission 5 - riddle.
I was going trough the index of pages in TWA and the start of mission 5 stuck me as being odd. For some context, in the end of mission 4 the user is given a riddle and the beginning of mission five covers trying to find an answer to it. At the start of mission 5, the user is given instructions to ask in TWA's version of the Teahouse, is given the text (s)he should post and there is even a "post it!" button that links to TWA/Teahouse/1 in the fourth step.

It is quite clear to me that the user would expect that he should edit the teahouse page and add the question there. That however, will not work because Wikipedia:TWA/Teahouse/1 is fully protected. In addition to that, the user is not given an answer to his question, neither on the page nor in the guidedTour. Sure, the tour does cover verifiability next, which is the answer, but the tour jumps right into that without mentioning the answer.

The expected behaviour would be one of the following:

A) That the user is given a chance to edit twa´s version of the teahouse and then one of the characters of TWA would then answer the question. I do realise that is a pain maintainance wise, but it is surely better than what is in place now.

B) Instead of the current impletion, the following should be done: --Snaevar (talk) 17:05, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia:TWA/Teahouse/1 should have an answer to the question.
 * Step 2: Let the button "Drink some tea" go to twa's teahouse (Wikipedia:TWA/Teahouse/1), no text changes.
 * Step 3: Mention something like "It so happens that another user has asked this question and gotten an answer."
 * Step 4: Provide additional context to the answer and give some sort of context with the verifiability questions that come next.

Help project
Hello guys I am from the help project...Just FYI after a few emails ...we have had a few people ask what all the info is on this page. I guess its confusing to have the Goals and Impact sections here on the main page. Perhaps best to have all that info on a project page other then this page....basicly people are nopt doing the adventure because they dont understand the page. -- Moxy (talk) 21:39, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. See WP:TWA/Story.  Thanks for passing on the feedback! Jake Ocaasit &#124; c 21:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Adventure nominated for deletion
Hi, I'm notifying you of a discussion where I mentioned you because you have been involved with The Wikipedia Adventure. You can comment here: Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure_(2nd_nomination). Cheers, Jake Ocaasit &#124; c 15:52, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

TWA is used in and recommended by the WMF's Global Education Program
In response to Ocaasi's post above about the second MfD, I wanted to note here for the record that TWA is both used in the Wikimedia Foundation's Wikipedia Education Program and recommended by the Global Education team in our outreach to program participants. In fact, it is the first training that we link to at Education/Trainings. There is also a separate description page about The Wikipedia Adventure on Outreach wiki here. The number of translations of the game already is a good sign for its future. I'm personally tracking and encouraging additional localisations. I'm posting this here now in the hope of discouraging future attempts to delete this content. We use it. We need it. And we love it. Thank you. Anna Koval (WMF) (talk) 11:33, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I added our adult intros to the page... Contributing to Wikipedia and/or Tutorial, That said why would people not like to attract the next generation. Odd deletion proposal. -- Moxy (talk) 15:18, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Update: at TWA/Portal - added WP:TIPS info
Greetings, At Wikipedia_talk:TWA/Portal I added a line for WP Tips library. Over the last several months, I've been working on improvements to Tips & thought it might be helpful here as well. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 02:34, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

What an inviting way to say hello and welcome
Hi, don't know who created this wonderful page, but it is awesome. Would it be an option to have a template made to add to the infoboxes on the userpages? Something like User Wikipedia Adventurer Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 14:46, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Ocaasi built it. :) Ijon (talk) 04:34, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Concerns about Mission 1
Hi. For the watchers of this page who maintain TWA, a new user expressed some frustration here that TWA's Mission 1 encouraged them to create a user page with whatever content they wanted, and then it was subsequently speedied as spam. I tried to go through a bit of TWA to see what exactly the wording is in relation to creation of a userpage, but I wasn't willing to let it make that many edits on my behalf. If someone more familiar with TWA would like to reply to this user, that might be best. Cheers, Nick&#8288;—&#8288;Contact/Contribs 16:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Nick, thanks for catching this. It was a) misunderstanding that the username page is real b) clearly promotional text.  I responded to SotoWriters on their talk page. Best, Jake Ocaasit &#124; c 16:43, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Is The Wikipedia Adventure really Biased?
In the Wikipedia Adventure it says, "Articles must not take sides, but should explain the sides, fairly and without bias. This applies to both what you say and how you say it." (Earth Article mission 4), but in the following part of the adventure it says, "Science shows that Earth formed around 4.5 billion years ago..." (Earth Article third paragraph) But that is Evolution biased. I'm a Christian, so I believe that the world was made between 4-10 thousand years ago. I just think that is Wikipedia is going to be non-biased this NEEDS to change. Not remove just change to some thing like, Evolution shows that the Earth is around 4.5 billion years old. But Christianity shows that the Earth is 4-10 Thousand years old. etc. This Needs to change in Wikipedia is going to be a biased-free Website. M1grand (talk) 23:05, 20 August 2015 (UTC)M1grand


 * While you're welcome to believe whatever you want about the age of the earth, as our article on that subject points out in quite some detail, science does indeed indicate that the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old. This has nothing to do with evolution, however; Earth predates life by quite a bit. Huon (talk) 00:16, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Fine but it is still biased, it still takes one side over the other. The reason that I have a problem with this is the fact the 4.5 billion years comes from Evolution, because Evolution(science) thinks that billions and billions of years are needed for life to exist. Christians think that life started in one week. Evolution dis-agrees with Christianity, so it is biased because it takes Evolution's side over Christianity's side. Wikipedia says that ALL articles MUST be unbiased. Also as a side note, there are two types of scientist, Evolution(4.5 billion years) and Christian (1-10 thousand years). Even if you don't belief either side, you more then likely belief one of those thought lines. I'm not trying to start a argument between Evolution(science) and Christianity(Bible), I'm trying to get some thing changed. M1grand (talk) 00:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)M1grand
 * The age of the Earth comes from science, as do electricity, phones, computers, medicine, planes, and everything that actually works. See WP:FRINGE. Johnuniq (talk) 01:38, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm NOT debating the age of the Earth Johnuniq, I'm said that the page is biased because it takes one side over the other. Not Whether I'm right about the Earth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M1grand (talk • contribs) 01:52, 21 August 2015
 * I'm not trying to debate the issue either. My list of items resulting from science was merely to provide some insight on why Wikipedia is the way it is—someone visiting an article on, say, phones would want to see what is known about the topic. WP:FRINGE provides the standard response. Johnuniq (talk) 02:09, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Right they would want to see what is known about the topic. So Show them both sides of the coin. If you want info on my side of the coin read this: Link. Also I'm not interested in continuing this argument, we could go on like this forever. So please just change it or don't change. M1grand (talk) 02:19, 21 August 2015 (UTC)M1grand

Possible Issue
Hello, I just started here on Wikipedia and completed the adventure. First off, I would like to say that I appreciate this tutorial very much, more so especially after having to attempt to make sense of two other tutorials that were confusing and boring. But in the adventure I noticed a possible issue. One of the fake users in the game had the username WillKomen. Quickly reading this I thought it said KillWomanand I am sure that others might too. I personally don't care much and don't know if a maker of the tutorial intentionally made the username like that but someone later on might think that the username is intentionally offensive and might be deterred from editing here, especially if they are a woman. Just a tidbit that you might want to investigate, I don't know how hard it would be to change but I suggest it. Also, I don't know if it is just me that finds this potentially offensive so I would appreciate some input from some other users. Also if any other users have tips for me starting out here, I will listen. Tortle (talk) 01:27, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * just noticed your comment. IMO, WillKomen is not offensive. To me, it looks as if a user wants to say "welcome" in English, German and Dutch at the same time. A bit like the image I added to make you feel welcome. Lotje (talk) 07:13, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Possible bug?
A user just reported to me that they experienced a bug when using the Wikipedia Adventure. When they clicked on the "Hello World" button, it posted to their talk page but then returned them to the exact same dialogue box, requesting that they again click "Hello World", ad infinitum. I tried it myself and got the exact same error. (I do have JS enabled, in case it's relevant.) Is this a bug in the Adventure, or could it be because both Elenktik and I have already added content to our User pages? Thanks, /wia   /tlk  16:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * We've logged this bug and are working to fix it: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118823 Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 22:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * THE BUG IS FIXED!!! Ocaasit &#124; c 23:00, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Is all ok?
We have had some complaints in the past 24 hours that the adventure is not working well....All ok? latest post is at Teahouse/Questions -- Moxy (talk) 16:33, 10 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Still a problem I guess as there is still people asking why this is not working Teahouse/Questions. Anyone here? Perhaps we should unlink this all over till its fixed.-- Moxy (talk) 17:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)]]


 * Reported at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia today. Will wait another day or so & if no response may need to take this issue to Village Pump-Technical. Cheers! JoeHebda (talk) 19:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Strange, whilst trying to find out what's wrong, I noticed it already needs fixing here Lotje (talk) 15:15, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * We've logged this bug and are working to fix it: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118823 Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 22:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * THE BUG IS FIXED!!! Ocaasit &#124; c 23:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Help me please!
Hi there!

I have already taken this adventure a while ago, but want to go through it quickly to find information for the article The Wikipedia Adventure. Now I am getting TWA-related popups on pages that are not TWA-related. Can anyone please help me?

Thanks so much! &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 03:06, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Some Gadget Geek. Your browser thinks you're still in the tour.  Just click the [x] to close it.  If that doesn't work, reload the page, or restart your browser.  It will go away.  Think of it as just trying to be a little toooo helpful and not knowing when to stop (it's a bug, but we can't really fix it).  Thanks, best, sorry.  Jake Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Isn't there be a way to disable TWA popups once you've taken the adventure? Or at least ask users who have already completed TWA whether they want to play again? &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk)

Wikipedia:TWA/Userbox45
Hi,. I could not find a standardized userbox for The Wikipedia Adventure so I created one:

Installing the above template (including the four curly braces) on your user page will render this:

I hope I have not duplicated efforts, and that you approve. I named it "45" because the box is the standard 45-pixels high. Maybe you can pass it out at the end of the Adventure. If you do not approve, please delete this cybercom. LOL. Cheers! 06:21, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 5 May 2016
Isdmaira (talk) 18:56, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Qed237&#160;(talk)</b></i> 19:02, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 27 June 2016
Ojust4today (talk) 04:16, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
 * There is not enough information to process this request. Please state exactly what you want changed, then change "answered=yes" to "answered=no". —  xaosflux  Talk 04:22, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Hidden titles
Is there some reason why The Wikipedia Adventure-related pages tend to have hidden titles? P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y <big style="position:relative;top:5px">(talk) 17:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Awesome
Hello. I loved the game. I have completed it, and it was very easy and informational. Thanks for making it User: Ocaasi (WMF)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhantomMeep (talk • contribs) 17:36, 8 February 2016‎ (UTC)

Easy for you to say Whistle knvfhnvssdyu (talk) 15:42, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Indentation
The indentation used in creating messages like the one seen here is problematic, for accessibility reasons.

The code used is:

But should be something like;

if additional indentation is required, the whole thing should be wrapped in a and styled.

Can this be fixed, please? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:55, 16 September 2016 (UTC)


 * . Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:57, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 20 September 2016
WVUChe2018 (talk) 04:30, 20 September 2016 (UTC) Added more reliable, neutral info about Earth's history from the talk page
 * I am not answering this, btw this is a game to teach you many things including neutrality so if it is itself neutral it can't teach you!  Varun  FEB2003    13:17, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. -- samtar talk or stalk 13:33, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect statement about reflists in mission 6
Contrary to what is said in that mission, which is that To make the reference show up, add a REFLIST, references will appear at the bottom of the page even if there is no reflist template since 2014. P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y 02:27, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Wording
In TWA/4/Rephrase: "Earth has many places that are suitable for humans to live, although some areas of the planet can be dangerous for humans or uninhabitable." I feel the end of the sentence isn't good (reads like "humans or uninhabitable" relates to "dangerous"), so maybe something like "can be dangerous for humans, or even uninhabitable", or even drop the "humans", "can be dangerous or uninhabitable". Then again, all three the sentences are kind of odd, and improving just this one could make the difference between them more than just NPOV related.--Yeryry (talk) 11:33, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Adventurers posting at Help talk:Edit summary
The history of Help talk:Edit summary is littered with edit requests from "Adventurers" who have lost their way. This edit is typical. Is there some wording within the Adventure somewhere that could be tightened up to give better guidance? -- John of Reading (talk) 12:29, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know where that one is coming from, but I've added a number of protection notices that override MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext (and the edit request) button. — Andy W. ( talk ) 19:51, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that may help. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

(More) Loads more misguided adventurers today! I've added a message to Template:Editnotices/Page/Help talk:Edit summary. Unfortunately the standard edit notices displayed by "Submit an edit request" make this extra one hard to spot. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:44, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

It's a simulation
Can it be made clear somewhere that this is completely simulated? For some reason, I've seen quite a few questions recently (for example, at WP:THQ) about why so-and-so didn't get their barnstar (the one given in the Adventure). It apparently needs to be made clearer that this is completely simulated.  — Gestrid  ( talk ) 18:27, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Gestrid. While the edits in the game take place in a user talk subpage, the game does indeed send real badges to the userpage and a real barnstar to the user talk page.  Editors are told this up front in the game.  Which means, that there may just be a bug or people having difficulty completing the missions.  Can you point me to an example post where someone has had this problem?  Cheers, Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 23:55, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * There are a couple posts over at WP:THQ about the problem, but I'm on mobile right now and don't want to go through the trouble of finding them.  — Gestrid  ( talk ) 00:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * here's two Teahouse/Questions and Teahouse/Questions Nthep (talk) 15:11, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the warning should be moved to the top of the page (or better yet into the game) and include a statement about disabling your visual editor in case they have it enabled. See: Teahouse. Thank you for your time. Endercase (talk) 22:51, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

How do you quit?
I recently started WP:TWA and wish to quit; it is becoming noise. How would I do that? 00:02, 22 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiMaster111 (talk • contribs)

"type type type" ?
Why does this page say "type type type" in the middle of it? — Hugh 01:52, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Someone made a test edit at TWA/Background/1. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:07, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

TWA Question at the Teahouse
Perhaps someone here more familiar may be able to help out with this thread about TWA. Timothy Joseph Wood 15:08, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Adventure - Mission 1 stops
I am working through The Wikipedia Adventure with some of my students, and noticed that in Mission 1, there is a part of it - Your turn - that seems to stop working. I got to the pop-up when it asks me to us Edit source (I do not have an option for Create source as it asks) and click it, but then nothing happens. It does not progress or ask me to do anything else next.

Can you please help or give me direction for things to try?

This is the message where it stalls:

---

Your turn!

Creating your userpage on Wikipedia is as simple as editing it.

Click CREATE SOURCE or EDIT SOURCE above.

(This adventure always uses the SOURCE editor).

---

Thank you. FULBERT (talk) 21:17, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Help me
Please someone guide me how to use wikipedia Sadia Shakoor (talk) 15:04, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Well Sadia Shakoor, Oshwah replied to your post and gave you some advice, and I have put a welcome message on your own talk page with some links that should help you get started. Like all of us, you are going to have to make a little effort yourself to read and learn about how to contribute to Wikipedia. I hope you will succeed in this and become a valuable member of our editing team <b style="color:seagreen">Noyster</b> (talk),  18:19, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

What is the template to add this to a user's talkpage?
What is the template to add this to a user's talkpage? Softlavender (talk) 23:58, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Softlavender, it's  – wbm1058 (talk) 00:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * You don't see the title on the page TWA/Portal because it transcludes Hidden title – wbm1058 (talk) 00:20, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It's been a while since I've played with this, so I'm still refreshing myself on the details. I don't think you're supposed to transclude this because it blanks out the title of the user's talk page. You could just give them the link to it: TWA/Portal but I think there was a fancier-looking welcome template that did that part. Let me hunt around a bit and see if I can find it again. wbm1058 (talk) 00:36, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Found it:
 * Click through to the template TWA/Invite for the documentation including parameters for personalizing it. wbm1058 (talk) 00:47, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

<div style="background-color: #040023; border-radius:10px; color: #E9E9F0; font-family: 'futura', arial, sans serif; padding: 2em 1em 1em 1em"> The Adventure


 * Thanks, that's much better. Softlavender (talk) 02:17, 19 August 2018 (UTC)