Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Library/Archive 10

Fold3 issues
Is anyone having troubles accessing certain records on Fold3 (eg )? I've tried different browsers and incognito mode, but no luck. Connormah (talk) 15:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * At least using the link you've provided, I load up a grey screen. No errors, but no content. -- Zanimum (talk) 12:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you - it seems to be an issue isolated to this particular record set/collection. Connormah (talk) 15:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hathi Trust
We really need institutional accounts with them. They've digitized a large number of books and other resources, but will not provide access to any that are still within the copyright period, except to libraries, schools, etc. that have accounts with them. This is intensely frustrating, since they have have books that Google has scanned (for no apparent reason) but will provide no access to at all not even snippet view, and which Internet Archive does not have at all. Repeatedly now, I have had to outright buy books (due to the near-total demise of inter-library loan in the US except within the same state) that I need for, say, 5 minutes to verify one thing. (Note: As a "GFYs" to the publishers and coalitions thereof filing these lawsuits against Internet Archive, I only buy said books used, so the publishers get nothing. I make exception for niche publishers who are uninvolved in these anti-fair-use legal shenanigans.)  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  15:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


 * +me, there are lots of books on there that aren't easy to find elsewhere. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Phab ticket T252652 is open.  ——Serial Number 54129  17:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @Serial Number 54129, that ticket was closed "Declined" on 22 Mar this year. Hathi Trust had responded saying that by contract they cannot provide access. -- R. S. Shaw (talk) 23:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Rats.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  10:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Balls. Thanks, I obviously didn't scroll down far enough! 🙄   ——Serial Number 54129  12:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * A real shame, it's not often we get a hard 'no' :( Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Sam, hate to bug you on an unrelated matter but I was wondering if you can shed light onthe issue I raised above re accessing Haaretz from the Library ? I can't seem to do so and I have to assume I am not the only one. I posted that a while back to no avail. Coretheapple (talk) 14:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

SpringerLink access error
I'm getting an error from springerLink: "Page Not Found... Not logged in - 132.174.252.114 The Wikipedia Library Wikimedia Foundation (3004182381)"
 * 1) I log in, it appears successful, and so does a search starting from the url https://link-springer-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/
 * 2) When I click on a content item that I want to access (in this case, at https://link-springer-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-41463-3_9 ), it isn't displayed and I get the following error:

Usually if the library logs you out it prompts for a re-log in, but this is happening a few minutes after the initial log in with no prompt to enter credentials again.

Thanks (t &#183; c)  buidhe  01:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hmm. I'm seeing similar issues, including occasionally getting "We’re sorry, something doesn't seem to be working properly. Please try refreshing the page. If that doesn't work, please contact support so we can address the problem." messages everywhere. Downloading PDFs does seem to work between these errors (e.g. at https://link-springer-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/article/10.1007/s12207-023-09495-z). The 'Not Found' error seems to particularly be present on book chapter pages. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 06:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I tried it again just now and was able to download the chapter I wasn't able to access earlier. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  14:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Project Muse
Able to log in but the avaliablity seems to have lapsed. DMT Biscuit (talk) 00:00, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I experienced the same yesterday and it seems they fixed the issue. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 01:15, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Brill
There seems to be a problem with the subscription to Brill. E.g., I was able to access to this book a few weeks ago, now it is not accessable except for the OA front matter parts. Austronesier (talk) 10:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I tried to access several books and journals via https://brill-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/ and wasn't able to access any of them. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  15:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Same here. Note that on the main Brill site, there's a header with "We are experiencing access issues to a selection of our reference works. As we work to resolve these issues, please contact sales@brill.com if you are unable to access a specific reference work title.", so it might be related to that.  SnowFire (talk) 17:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Update since no one else has mentioned: access to Brill seems to have been fixed now. Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Cannot search
When you search, it takes you to ebscohost.com, but there it is saying  Help please if this is repeating issue with users. Exclusive Editor Notify Me! 17:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello ExclusiveEditor! I'm experiencing the exact same problem, with same error message as you. I've done some searching, which also turned this post up, & seen an old report of this same issue in the past. Seems like some kind of glitch at their end, I'm hoping it will be resolved soon. Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 18:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Me too. And see above. Doug Weller  talk 02:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm also experiencing this. But unlike what the Phabricator report says, it's not just Firefox for me, it doesn't work in Chrome either.  AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 03:14, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Me too. That message just appeared for the first time today. — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 04:03, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello AstonishingTunesAdmirer & others interested! Thanks for the the Phabricator link! I've now checked the multiple browsers I have installed; the latest version of Firefox (which is my normal browser) produces the error when trying to search the Wikipedia Library, Edge browser reacts the same as does Opera browser. However the ancient Waterfox Classic does not produce the error & works as normal! So seems like something has gotten broken with newer browsers very recently. Hope this is of help in someone solving the problem! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 08:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I was able to reproduce this issue and believe that we have it resolved; please let us know if it's working for you now! JSherman (WMF) (talk) 18:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! Working for me on Chrome. — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 19:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello JSherman! I can confirm it is now working again on Firefox. I also checked the other browsers where it had previously failed, Edge & Opera, & it is working again on those too. Thank-you kindly for fixing it! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 20:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it works, thank you.  Exclusive Editor  Notify Me! 14:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Haaretz English
I can't seem to access Haaretz English articles when accessing through the library. Apparently there's the same problem with the Hebrew site too via the library. Am I doing something wrong or is our access limited? I do seem to be able to see daily updates, but I believe the general public can as well by just going to the regular Haaretz site. Coretheapple (talk) 14:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Just to be a bit more specific: when I use the Wikilibrary link for Haaretz English, I am indeed able to obtain access to Haaretz English. However, I find that this does not give me full access to the articles on the site in most instances.

For instance. Going to the site through the library I can get full access to the article titled "Dancers Fleeing Fake Gunfire at Hamas' Nova Massacre Site? On the Set of Israel's Independence Day Music Video." Going to that through the public website I can only see an excerpt. In this instance the Wikipedia Library site is providing full access. That however is not usually the case.

For instance, if I try to access via the library "Analysis | Two Assassinations, Same Problem: Israel Didn't Think About the Consequences" I get the same limited excerpt I do through the regular public website. That is true for the vast majority of articles I attempt to access via the Wikipedia Library.

Is this a bug or is this simply Haaretz limiting access? Anyone know? Coretheapple (talk) 14:44, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Clicking on the Wikipedia Library link for the English Haaretz, the lead headline is "Report: Hamas Accepts Gaza Cease-fire Deal; Israeli Officials Reject Prospect of War Ending." But when you click on the article, you cannot access more than the first few paragraphs. Coretheapple (talk) 14:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I have the same problem using Haaretz English. But this does not seem to occur on Haaretz Hebrew, where I have been able to open every article I tried. That would suggest that the problem is technical, ratgher than a deliberate decision. For instance, I can read only the first few lines of the article By Shutting Down Al Jazeera, Israel Is Shooting Itself in the Foot, but I can access all of the equivalent article on Haaretz Hebrew, סגירת אל־ג'זירה לא תפגע בחמאס ולא תשנה את מעמדה של קטאר. RolandR (talk) 18:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I can't read Hebrew but I have had the same problem when I attempted to access the Hebrew edition.
 * If Haaretz is not going to give Wikipedia editors more access than is available to the general public, having it on Wikipedia Library is abusive, a form of advertising and it shouldn't be there at all. This problem should either be fixed or it should go. Also I want to express my disappointment at the utter indifference to this shown by the Wikipedia Library staff. I raised this issue over a month ago, and repeated it privately in an email. Not ONE response. Coretheapple (talk) 14:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Haaretz English should be removed from the Wikipedia Library bundle
See above. Haaretz does not offer Wikipedia editors ANY advantage, at least in its English edition. One gets the same access as is available to members of the general public who are not subscribers. Thus its being in the Wikipedia Library package is a form of advertising that needs to stop. I raised this issue over a month ago, have received no response from the Wikipedia Library so I have to assume that this is a feature, not a bug. Coretheapple (talk) 14:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Coretheapple It seems to be working now, I was able to load a couple of articles on English Haaretz. Isi96 (talk) 19:43, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I imagine what's available to the general public is available to Wikipedians through the Library. But to to the "Israel Gaza War" section and click on Israel's Mossad Admits for the First Time: We Were Surprised on October 7 and see what happens. No access. Coretheapple (talk) 20:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I checked that article just now, the whole thing is accessible. Isi96 (talk) 08:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It seems there might be a slight lag between it becoming accessible. The newest articles aren't loading for me, but all those that are a day or more old are. –  Iso chrone (talk) 10:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes I now can obtain that as well. However "Mark Rudd Led Antiwar Students at Columbia in 1968. He Says Gaza Protesters Are Repeating His Mistakes," also May 9, is not accessible however. Evidently they are blocking access to recent articles, and allowing at least some older articles to be accessed. While I guess we have to take what we can get, that is a shame as Haaretz is a fully acceptable source per WP:RS. Coretheapple (talk) 15:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * By the way I was remiss in not thanking you and for helping me to troubleshoot this. Coretheapple (talk) 18:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for the lack of response here - I somehow overlooked your initial post and then I was attending the Wikimedia Hackathon and having some vacation time from 2nd May, so I've only just seen your email and the rest of the messages here. It's possible that Haaretz are embargoing content for a day or two before providing us access, but if that's the case it hadn't been communicated to us before now. It's also possibly a technical issue that we can resolve. We've contacted Haaretz and I'll update here as soon as I know more. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:51, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks, appreciate your getting back to me on this. Haaretz is a valued resource on I/P articles, which are often updated fairly quickly, and is rare in that it is used by both "sides" of the controversy. If they have a quiet embargo on new articles it can discourage editors from using it entirely, as editors may react (as I did) that the resource is not available at all. I'm still not certain as to how many articles are withheld from use. Obviously we can rectify this by placing a caveat on the Haaretz/English/Hebrew entries at Wikipedia Library. Half a loaf is better than none. However, I think that such an embargo is unwise and significantly curbs use of Haaretz in Wikipedia articles. So I hope they rethink whatever embargo they have in place. Coretheapple (talk) 15:33, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Library offline?
I have been receiving error message for 30 minutes Hmmm… can't reach this page (any site name) refused to connect. Is the server down? DMBanks1 (talk) 17:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Same here, can't access anything. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Me, too. Login to Library page works, but not the links I typically use: no JSTOR, EBSCO, ProQuest, or newspapers.com. — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ditto. Been trying for 2 hours. Can log in, but trying to access any collection returns "An error occurred during a connection to wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org." SusunW (talk) 17:50, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Pinging . SusunW (talk) 17:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pinging Sam in; weirdly, OCLC's website loads, so it's not their entire domain that's down. -- Zanimum (talk) 20:10, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Are there any indications when the service will be restored? DMBanks1 (talk) 21:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Came to ask the same question. I just tried to accesss Oxford Academic with no luck. Wiley also seems to be down. Note: similar comments at meta:Talk:The Wikipedia Library XabqEfdg (talk) 00:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I have created a Phabricator task for this. Best, --Sandro Halank (WMDE) (talk) 06:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. (Also can't connect to server. Changed browsers, same issue.) ash (talk) 06:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Every collection link fails when I try to access through Firefox. Chrome still works fine. Jasavina (talk) 16:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reports - I've contacted OCLC support to see if we can get this resolved, unfortunately it seems to be an issue with an externally hosted service that I believe we don't have direct control over. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This issue should now be resolved - I appear to be able to access content again, please let me know if you're seeing any different. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:41, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update. It's working for me now. SusunW (talk) 12:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, seems to be working! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It went down again 5 minutes ago. DMBanks1 (talk) 14:22, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Running again. DMBanks1 (talk) 14:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Working again! Yay! Many thanks, . — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 15:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It is now working for me too! Thanks! XabqEfdg (talk) 19:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Samwalton9 (WMF) down again, slightly different issue: . Mackensen (talk) 15:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Same on desktop Firefox. It worked, then I went to log in into newspapers.com, and when I returned to TWL it started throwing this error. I was worried it's just me, because it actually works fine in mobile Chrome.  AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 15:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I am getting the same error. S0091 (talk) 15:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * We had about another 30 minutes of downtime earlier, apparently while they fixed something with our service. Another user reported that clearing cookies for oclc.org may fix the SEC_ERROR_REUSED_ISSUER_AND_SERIAL error, or using another browser. I'm continuing the OCLC support thread to see if this is the best fix. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * How to clear cookies of one website? ...And I don't know who User:REUSED_ISSUER is, but SERIAL is annoyed :)    ——Serial Number 54129  15:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Click the icon on the left side of your address bar. In Firefox it's the lock icon → Clear cookies and site data. In Chrome it's the settings icon → Cookies and site data → Manage on-device site data → click the garbage bin icon next to the site name. FWIW, it didn't help me.  AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 16:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I cleared all my cookies and still get the error. S0091 (talk) 16:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm really sorry it didn't work for either of you :(  But as it happens, it did for me, so regardless, I appreciate your help and hope you manage to negotiate the metaphorical minefield sometime soon!   ——Serial Number 54129  16:22, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Interestingly enough, now that you said that, I tried it again and it worked!  AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 16:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * And it's dead again. Clearing cookies doesn't help this time. Edit: didn't do anything and it fixed itself 15 minutes later.  AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 16:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @AstonishingTunesAdmirer and @Serial Number 54129 it's working for me now. Maybe User:REUSED_ISSUER just needed a nap. :) S0091 (talk) 17:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

NewspaperArchive
When I try to access NewspaperArchive through the Wikipedia Library, I get redirected to the page "https://access-newspaperarchive-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/Unauthorized", which reads, in part, If you are seeing this page after clicking a link from your library or institution then there was a problem with the authentication. Is anyone else having this issue? XabqEfdg (talk) 07:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Yes. Red bar says "Authentication failed" and the message is: "If you are seeing this page after clicking a link from your library or institution then there was a problem with the authentication. You can check with your host library or institution to confirm they have an active service. You can also email clientsupport@worldarchives.com to report the library or institution you are attempting to access through." — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 08:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Just got the same issue too. Dan Carkner (talk) 02:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It works now. Thanks! XabqEfdg (talk) 02:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

OED
Apologies if this is old news, but I seem to remember it was discussed here... do we have access or not? Can't remember. Or find it if so! Cheers,  ——Serial Number 54129  16:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * There is a section on Meta here. Unfortunately, there are no replies yet. XabqEfdg (talk) 20:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * No, but it's been suggested - see T347866. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Remind me: Which partner recently left WP:Library's roster?
Used to list 80 platforms for months; at this writing, we're seeing 79 instead. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If I remember, UK Who's Who was a partner until about April this year, but no longer (or for what reason, I don't know).  ——Serial Number 54129  12:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Mohr Siebeck
Is Mohr Siebeck access up for others? Books that were definitely available not that long ago don't appear to be available now. SnowFire (talk) 01:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's still down, so I've filed T367233. SnowFire (talk) 19:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

JSTOR search
Am I the only one having problems with the JSTOR search, getting a blank page with only headers (not an empty list). Викидим (talk) 01:06, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Sorry that's happening to you. JSTOR is working ok for me. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * When that has happened to me, it's fixed by clearing cache. I know that's the most boring answer, but it worked for me. Penny Richards (talk) 01:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you all! --Викидим (talk) 04:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

SEC_ERROR_OCSP_UNAUTHORIZED_REQUEST error when accessing collection
When clicking 'access collection' this error occurs, the website doesn't allow one to disable https either. The issue is at the domain https://wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org Traumnovelle (talk) 04:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Disabling security.OSCP.enabled in my browser fixes the issue, although I don't believe this is an ideal solution. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Bookmarklet
Hi all! I've been using this on my own computer for almost a year now, but it just occurred to me to share this bookmarklet with fellow TWL users. Create a bookmark in your browser, and change the URL to be the following:. Now if you are on the webpage of a journal article, you can click the bookmark, and if the library subscribes to the content, you will be redirected through the library and will receive access to the publication. Please let me know if you have any questions! BhamBoi (talk) 05:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have been doing the same for some time. This generally, but not always, works. RolandR (talk) 09:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this, ! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 21:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Exact Editions
Can we get access to Exact Editions please? TrottieTrue (talk) 22:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestion. Can you please add this to the suggest page here - https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/. VSj (WMF) (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Cannot access Newspapers.com clipping
My clippings redirect me to "This page is not available. This page is pending publication, has been removed or moved to a new location." SL93 (talk) 22:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know why it's happening all of a sudden, but it's fixed on an individual basis if you remove the "-newspapers-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org" from the url and replace it with ".newspapers.com", which you should be doing anyways if you're using the clipping on Wikipedia, because the former isn't accessible by anyone else without a Newspapers.com account, while the latter url formatting can be seen by everyone. Silver  seren C 22:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok. I have been just changing it to that once I actually get to the adding the links to the article. Thank you. SL93 (talk) 22:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I assume the page is not available issue is some Wikipedia Library account access problem (which we've seemingly been having in various forms for a while based on sections above), considering it goes away by changing the URL. Hopefully someone manages to isolate what's going on. Silver  seren C 22:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I just had the same issue creating a clip. It's easily cured, but encountering it for the first time is unpleasant. It seems to be a new bug. Coretheapple (talk) 17:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Springer access errors
Getting errors HTTP Status 400 – bad request errors, when trying to access Springer and Nature. Zenomonoz (talk) 07:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reporting this. I am unable to re-produce this issue. Could you clear cookies for oclc.org and try again? I would also suggest opening this page in another browser to see if it works.
 * If this issue persists, it would be great if you can send us an email with the URL, and a screenshot or a screen recording of the error you're facing. Thanks VSj (WMF) (talk) 11:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I cleared cookies for OCLC and Springer, and it worked. Zenomonoz (talk) 03:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

De Gruyter access error
I'm trying to access the following page: https://www-degruyter-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/database/ABJ/entry/abj.9172/html

It repeatedly reloads then gives me the following error: "Max challenge attempts exceeded. Please refresh the page to try again!"

I'm getting the same error with other De Gruyter entries/chapters that I was trying to access, across 2 different web browsers and extended confirmed accounts. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:41, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I can repoduce the error with database entries (or rather, anything under .../database/). Books and journals that are in the folder .../documents/ work fine for me. –Austronesier (talk) 10:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)