Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 12

Tagging instances
Every time I tag an image, "Tagging instances" always stop at 50%. Why? Project FMF (talk) 01:58, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It did that for me too. And then it started working. Now it only works sometimes. Save-Me-Oprah (talk)  00:31, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Images for pseudo speedy deletion
This tab is not working properly for me, nothing will happen when I try to submit, any help? Cirt (talk) 17:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I was going to post this. So yeah, its also not working for me. Last used it successfully on Jan. 30.  « ₣M₣ »  21:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You mean it's also not working for you? Cirt (talk) 21:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed (yes).  « ₣M₣ »  21:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Still not working, I try to click on "submit" - and nothing happens. Cirt (talk) 21:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you guys try going to Special:Preferences and then choose "Gadgets" and then enable the option "Javascript Standard Library" ? This element was removed from the standard Twinkle options around that date, and perhaps something went wrong with that. 2nd, you could take a look at the "Error Console" that Firefox has. There should be Javascript errors that might help track the issue down. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 23:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That was the first thing I tried, here's the message from the Error Console.  « ₣M₣ »  00:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hehe, fixed that one :) → Aza Toth 00:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, this issue is on the buglist, and when AzaToth is aware of it, he'll implement the fix i trust. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Editted the settings and now Twinkle stops showing
I editted my moonbook yesterday to turn off page watching and now twinkle isn't showing up. Using Opera 9.21.


 * I too have gotten this, and I'm fairly sure that my [monobook] is set up right (there's not much room for error there). Using Opera 9.23 - although I'm unable to get it working in my FF2.0 backup browser either.  Lankiveil (complaints 13:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC).


 * Never mind, fixed it using the Javascript Library gadget as outlined above. Lankiveil (complaints 13:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC).

Custom edit summaries for Rollback
Would those active on this page be able to help out here? Specifically, does TWINKLE have the option for custom edit summaries for rollbackers yet? Carcharoth (talk) 01:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Commented. Thanks for the pointer! Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 10:35, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Does this work with the Modern skin?
I don't use the Monobook skin. I use Modern. Will Twinkle work for me? MilesAgain (talk) 17:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Try it out; let us know. It will work on monobook-derived skin; I forget whether Modern is monobook-derived (I think so). – Mike . lifeguard  &#124; @en.wb 23:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "Modern" is a new skin (just added recently). A lot of scripts (including Twinkle, I'm almost sure) will not work with this new skin. However, a new gadget was just added that tries to make Monobook-dependant scripts work with new skin. You could try Twinkle with that gadget enabled ∴ AlexSm 03:33, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've confirmed that it does work with the gadget. It does not work without the gadget (though the issues were surprisingly few - a couple errors thrown from twinklefluff and some suspicious calls in twinklediff. Installation should go to Special:mypage/modern.js instead of monobook.js if you are using the modern skin. —Random832 10:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If you never hear from me again it's because something went wrong (or I died :). MilesAgain (talk) 13:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Excuse me for interjecting, but what is this "Modern" skin of which thou speakest? I saw a news report a couple days ago that said Wikipedia is getting a new look. Is Modern going to become the new default at some point? Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 05:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Preferences / Skins / Modern. I have no idea. I decided to go through the preferences and there it was. MilesAgain (talk) 13:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, found it in there earlier today. I wasn't expecting to, though, because the article I read said the skin wasn't available in preferences. Though things do tend to move fast in the wiki world. Perhaps it's just a new skin for the next MW release. Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 13:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, it isn't working for me using the Modern skin (with the gadget enabled and after a cache bypass). Something strange about the way my Monobook.js is set up? Avruch talk 15:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See comment #4 above by Random832. Your User:Avruch/modern.js is red as of this moment, so ... ∴ AlexSm 16:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Random832 replied to my talkpage and mentioned modern.js, I guess that should have occurred to me ;) Avruch talk 16:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Race condition with importScript and addOnloadHook
On Firefox (and, I'm told, IE7), scripts loaded with importScript may not run until after runOnloadHook is called. For anyone else who has this problem, there is a fix with a hacked version of addOnloadHook at the top of my modern.js. —Random832 10:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You mean the bottom. MilesAgain (talk) 13:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've never seen this in Firefox (at least 1.5 or 2), but I just found that Safari 3/Win does it all the time: it gets to the bottom of the page, executes runOnloadHook, and only then runs imported scripts. For those interested, I also copied the solution below ∴ AlexSm 18:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

addOnloadHook = function(hookFunct) { if(doneOnloadHook) hookFunct else onloadFuncts[onloadFuncts.length] = hookFunct }


 * Oh man, this again proves that JS is just not a programming language. Stuff like this is just too vaguely defined among the various browsers. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Rollback stopped working
For some reason, the rollback and rollback vandal functions stopped working tonite. They still confirm, and the user to be warned talk page still pops up ready to edit, but the page never actually rolls back, either with the rollback or rollback vandal function. - super &beta;&epsilon;&epsilon; cat 09:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Everything seems to work for me... have you made any changes to your monobook.js lately? SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:47, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, just stopped. - super &beta;&epsilon;&epsilon; cat 19:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ROLLBACK ISSUE UPDATE: This is an issue with the latest firefox update. Try getting the latest firefox to see the rollback issue. TW works fine in the new firefox 3 beta, however. - super &beta;&epsilon;&epsilon; cat 05:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggested new wordings for speedy-delete templates
Mainly for the purpose of bringing the templates more in line with the actual speedy criteria, Moonriddengirl and I have developed suggested template wordings. We suggest that discussion of the specific wordings of each template be in four subpages we've created for general, articles, images and other (redirects, categories, userpages, templates, portals), and that general discussion about it be at WT:CSD. --Coppertwig (talk) 22:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Traverse for CAT:SPEEDY
This traverse thing for the images is great, but can't the same be set up for the articles listed at CAT:SPEEDY? This has probably already been asked but I can't find it. SGGH speak! 11:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle causes big slowdowns
Whenever I have Twinkle enabled and working, my browser slows down _a lot_. I've tried in latest Opera and Firefox. If there's a wikipedia page open, every other page suddenly slows loading by a lot and the browser uses lots of memory. Firefox becomes unsuable by around the 30 tab mark. Is there anything I can do? (I've tried disabling all my other monobook scripts, helps a little but not much) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tombomp (talk • contribs) 19:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

IE problem
When I try to log on to WP on Internet Explorer, nothing happens after I attempt it; when the top of the screen says "Login successful," and the status bar "Error on page," the screen turns to white and the browser stops working altogether. I'm not sure, but may I report this as some kind of bug?

The culprit of that problem is my monobook.js, which contains the IE-incompatible Twinkle. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 21:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the only solution is to either get rid of Twinkle or not use IE. --Closedmouth (talk) 03:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Simple check for IE in monobook.js, like  should fix this. Although one would expect TWINKLE to check for IE itself. —AlexSm 05:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Having a little problem
Hi. I'm new to Wikipedia and I thought I'd use your tool to help revert vandalism. Anyway, I copied the text to my monobook.js and refreshed the page using Shift, CTRL, R (I use Firefox) and the tabs don't appear. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance! -- On the  other side  Contribs 02:38, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Try restarting your browser. --Closedmouth (talk) 03:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Tried it and no such luck. Any other suggestions? -- On the  other side  Contribs 19:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Using Twinkle on other wikis
I wish to use Twinkle on Simple English Wikipedia. However, the usual line of code to import the script doesn't work. What should I insert in my monobook.js instead? Chenzw (talk · contribs) 13:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle issues
Hiya. I've noticed that TWINKLE is deleting some segments on peoples' talk pages. I think that's a sort of over-run or under-run if the pages are sufficiently large. Perhaps a bugfix might eliminate that issue? RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 20:35, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It might be helpful if you can provide some links as an example.--Sunny910910 (talk 01:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Bug 13. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure. Here are some links for ya to consider:, , . RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 00:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Which browser are you using? Might be specific to one version of a certain browser. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The behaviour is consistent in Mozilla Firefox (v2.0.0.12) and in Opera (v9.26). RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 04:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

What the...
is going on here? The image... &mdash;αlεx•mullεr 16:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * No clue. It works fine for me. Is it still malfunctioning for you? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I just did another and it was fine - still, that has to be either a bug or easter egg in Twinkle &mdash;αlεx•mullεr 16:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I looked through your monobook.js - nothing would have caused that problem, checked twiklewarn, that has not been changed and can not see anything (using Ctrl+F) that would add spongebob square pants! Very weird. Tiddly  -  Tom  17:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Weird, but it made me smile. :) --Fabrictramp (talk) 18:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Someone had vandalized the warning template itself, and Twinkle just subst:'s the templates, in this case . --JayHenry (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah yep, I see now – wonder how many got done in the four minutes that was changed... &mdash;αlεx•mullεr 22:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Forgot to check that ;) Tiddly  -  Tom  06:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Too bad that it's a fair use image, because I think that spongebob in the warning template would probably warm the hearts of the vandals, perhaps even prompting their immediate reform. --JayHenry (talk) 07:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Question about IE browsing
Hi y'all, I'd like to use Twinkle for anti-vandalism/RC patrolling, but I currently use IE for editing on Wikipedia, as well other internet browsing in general. At the moment, I don't have any other browser installed, like Firefox for instance, that would be compatible with Twinkle. My question is, if I did install Firefox and install Twinkle through that browser, would it negatively affect my IE editing on Wikipedia, or would I simply not be able to use Twinkle through that browser? Would there be any negative affect on wiki editing, or Internet browsing in general, if I installed Twinkle on my monobook, but still used IE for Internet/wiki browsing (not to use Twinkle, but other edits)? Any info would appreciated! -- Jamie  S93   18:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Twinkle gracefully degrades: I haven't noticed any problems when logging in from IE.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 19:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info, SarekOfVulcan. I installed Twinkle on my monobook.js, and it works well on Firefox and IE doesn't utilize it (of course), but there's no interference with it. I do have one more question. I suppose I should put this under a new section, but it should be pretty quick: how do you customize signatures with Twinkle when warning a user? I haven't been able to find this info, and of course adding the customized signature in the "More" area produces two signatures. Is there some kind of preferences area that I'm missing? Thanks again! -- Jamie  S93   17:59, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * When you warn someone, it uses what ever is in your preferences. Hope this is what you were looking for ;) Tiddly  -  Tom  07:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Tom. :) I've got it all sorted out now. I was having a problem with my signature markup not being accepted with the "invalid signature" notice in my preferences when chosing the "Raw signature" option. Now I've altered the formatting and it works with the prefs (thanks to analyzing signatures like Milk's Favorite Cookie and yours). If you compare this comment to my previous ones above, you can see how the formatting I used for my sig has changed. Thanks for the assistance! ☺  -- Jamie  S93  22:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Meta?
I've been thinking of getting active on meta, and I was wondering what would need to be changed in order to use it there.  Jus tin  (Gmail?)(u) 22:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

"unlink" feature removing articles from my watchlist
I dunno if this is supposed to happen, but this is really annoying. Comments ? - Master Bigode from SRK.o// (Talk) (Contribs) 02:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

No Adv tab
I have

Project page Discussion Edit this page + History Move Watch csd last rpp xfd unlink

Shouldn't I have 'adv'?--Dougweller (talk) 15:22, 29 February 2008 (UTC)