Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 22

Truncated edit summaries
I have enabled the "Allow up to 50 more characters in each of your edit summaries" user interface gadget, but TW's dialog box doesn't seem to recognize this any more: I ramble on to the expected limit, but when saved the summary is truncated at the standard limit. It used to work. --Old Moonraker (talk) 05:29, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Using a development version of Twinkle (i.e. not the one most people use), a test edit summary got truncated at 250 characters. Once this development version becomes the norm (it'll happen soon...), this issue should go away, and edit summaries will be limited to 250 characters, whether you have the gadget on or not. — This, that, and the other (talk) 04:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 250 should be enough for anybody. --Old Moonraker (talk) 09:03, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Make bigger
The box I pick the warning from uses text that is too small. Can we make it bigger and also have it show all possibilities so I do not need to scroll? The one I wish to use most of the time is the welcome with what looks like possible vandalism. Thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * All the text in Twinkle ought to be made a bit bigger, in my view, but anyway... Which "box" specifically is causing you problems? — This, that, and the other (talk) 02:29, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes the text bigger as you said. Would be happy if the box was a bit bigger too. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 05:47, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, then: add the following code to the bottom of your skin file:

.simplewindow, .morebits-dialog { font: 90% sans-serif !important; }
 * Then bypass your cache. If you want to adjust the font size, you can change the percentage value accordingly. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:15, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes but should it not be changed for everyone? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 01:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I think users are accustomed to it as it is; you can always apply the custom CSS code above if you want to make the text bigger. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:30, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well let have an RfC and see what others think. I doubt I am the only one who has problem reading it. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 03:54, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Depends on what computer I'm on: mine = no problems, boyfriend's = teeny little squinty eyes for everything. I'm used to it so it's not that big of a deal for me. Call me neutral. Millahnna (talk) 06:26, 21 April 2011 (UTC) Is it also possible to make it show the whole thing? I have added the script above which is an improvement thanks. This is what I wish by default... Right now I get a thing that needs scrolling... Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You seem to have a huge monitor. I'm currently on a 1280x800 laptop; you're lucky to have such a big screen. Here's another snippet of code you can add to your skin file:

.simplewindow, .morebits-dialog-content { min-height: 750px !important; min-width: 800px !important; }
 * Change the number of pixels to something bigger if you want. This script snippet unfortunately means that you will not be able to resize Twinkle windows smaller than 750 pixels high and 800 pixels wide. (I haven't tested it, and I don't know if it works for sure - it might make Twinkle disgustingly deformed... if it doesn't work, you can always take it out of your skin file, and Twinkle will be happy again, though small.) — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:09, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Great that is a huge improvement. Nearly perfect. There is still one thing. When the box opens the bottom part is off the bottom of the screen and the top is part way down the screen. If the top just occurred a little farther up I could see the whole thing. I can send you a screen shot if you need. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:52, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Try this, should work:

.simplewindow, .morebits-dialog { top: 100px !important; }
 * The number of pixels here represents the distance from the top of the webpage to the top of the Twinkle box. You can change the number of pixels to whatever you want. Unfortunately, there is another tradeoff: this will mean that you now can't drag Twinkle windows vertically - they will only move horizontally. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:21, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks now perfect :-) Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 13:31, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Should the tag section included this?
Template:Image requested? Wilbysuffolk  talk  08:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I believe that's a talk page template, and the "tag" section is for top-of-the-article maintenance tags. In other words, I believe it's out of scope for that function.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 08:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Strange goings-on with Twinkle
I noticed recently that the "Tag" item on the Twinkle drop-down menu is usually missing. Also, sometimes the three rollback buttons are missing when I view the last diff to a page.

I'm running Aurora (Firefox 5.0a2) in Windows Vista. Is anybody else running it? Is anybody else experiencing these problems? — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:17, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Firefox has been having issues with loading user scripts in recent versions, for as yet unknown reasons. Since you don't seem to have any configuration set up in your monobook.js, you might like to try commenting out and/or deleting the Twinkle and Friendly lines from your monobook.js and enabling Twinkle and Friendly as gadgets instead. It might help. — This, that, and the other (talk) 05:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll give that a try and see if it helps. Thanks. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 05:32, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Merge tasks
Open-ended list, please add to it, do it, and tick off as inclined. Amalthea 10:41, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Change edit summary ads
 * ✅ Place tool links in same vector dropdown
 * ✅ Merge talk pages
 * Merge documentation
 * move completed, whoever merges the actual tools will have to edit parameter names, etc. &mdash; Train2104 (talk • contribs • count) 22:48, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge configuration, while keeping backwards compatibility
 * Notify a sysadmin to merge gadgets and users
 * move [welcome]-button to Twinkle (currently disappears when Friendly unchecked in prefs)
 * If someone explains what this means, I'll fix it; but at present it doesn't make sense. — This, that, and the other (talk) 04:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Screwing up undo
After last month's update, Twinkle, like all scripts, now loads last. This means that if you show a diff from the history page, that you see the usual MediaWiki stuff, and eventually the rollback links appear, shoving everything down one line. Specifically, the rollback links have appeared a fraction of a second after I've clicked on "undo", while the click is apparently still active, at least three times in the last 24 hours. Since the red "Rollback vandalism" link is on the same side as the plain old "undo" button, then it tries to tag it as vandalism rather than simply undoing the change. I managed to cancel two of them, but one person's edits were (very wrongly) marked as vandalism.

If I paste everything from Twinkle/doc except this line:

into my .js file, will that stop the rollback links from suddenly appearing where the undo button was a few seconds ago? WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I had that happen. I thought it was my carelessness. It could have triggered a edit war (I reverted and apologized). Thanks for the explanation. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 21:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * If you don't want the rollback links at all, you can use the line

TwinkleConfig.showRollbackLinks = [ ];
 * Is that what you want? — This, that, and the other (talk) 00:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Now that I know what the problem is I don't think I'll have any reoccurrence. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 02:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I pasted that line into my vector.js file, and it seems to have worked. Thanks for the simple solution!  WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

AIV reporting not working well?
I can't report a user specifically for being a promotion-only account, but if I choose spambot (which it's not...) it worked. It reported the user to the AIV page, but it did not leave a message on the user's account. It's been so long since I've reported a user, that I don't recall if it's supposed to leave a message on his talk page or not. Either way, the promotion-only option didn't work. Not for me, at any rate, and on two sort-of different browsers (Safari and OmniWeb). –  Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 14:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not supposed to notify the user, only to list him at AIV. If you list a user there, you're typically past warnings. Amalthea  15:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And the AIV listing . Amalthea  15:24, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I couldn't remember if Twinkle alerted the user the fact that they'd been reported or not. As for the test, well, guess it was just me! Thanks : ) –  Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 00:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Twinkle outside Wikipedia
Does this tool will be available on Wikia? Many of Wikians haven't used this tool for three years. --Kungfu2187 (talk) 08:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Watchlist Code
I understand that there is code I can place in my vector file which will force Twinkle to stop adding anything I revert to my watchlist. Is that correct? Could the coding and the information be placed on the project page for Twinkle, because I am sure I am not the only person who doesn't like having to clean out my watchlist every day. Ryan Vesey (talk) 16:50, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You're dead right, you're not the only one. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * … which is why all the watchlist options are listed in the documentation. Amalthea  19:44, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Um, through using Wikipedia I have gotten some understanding of Javascript and other coding, but I am still completely unable to figure out how to make the change. The only part in the coding I found related to Twinkle/watchlist was about xfd and was already set to "no."  I can't even find my Twinkle preferences. Ryan Vesey (talk) 20:07, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * This is all in WP:TW/DOC, but I agree that it's not exactly written with ease-of-use in mind. All you have to do is place the following code in your common.js file.


 * See the watchRevertedPages entry below WP:TW/DOC for more info. Hope this helps. —DoRD (talk) 20:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * One final question, does it need to go into a common.js file? Or can I put it into my vector.js file?  I would prefer to only use one but I don't want to mess anything up. Ryan Vesey (talk) 22:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If you only intend to use Vector, then certainly, put it in vector.js. Or monobook.js, if that's your preference. Personally, I like to keep everything in one location so I can switch skins with ease. —DoRD (talk) 23:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Blacklisting
A vandalbot has recently used Twinkle to revert countless Cluebot edits. Therefore, if a blacklisting of every name that ended with "bot" could be done, such a problem can be prevented. "Whitelisting" could be done to bots which have a BRFA for using Twinkle. -- Σ ☭ ★  19:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Countless, as in 29? T. Canens (talk) 01:24, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Not to mention that it is not even using Twinkle. T. Canens (talk) 01:25, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

french
How about we make a version of twinkle in french? It would be for the french wikipedia. I think that we should have other places with twinkle. EBE123 talkContribs 12:20, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

hatnote and blacklisting
Two things, Twinkle does not appear to recognize as a hatnote, and tags above it instead of under it. And Twinkle doesn't give any error or indication the revert doesn't go trough when you're trying to revert an edit which restores a blacklisted website which was removed in one of the previous edits. It just pretends everything goes fine, but doesn't do anything. No indication the revert didn't happen, no indication there's a problem at all.  X  eworlebi (talk) 14:04, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hatnote problem will be fixed; thanks. The blacklist problem is . — This, that, and the other (talk) 12:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Redirects with possibilites
FYI, the Rcat R with possibilities has been altered to populate Category:Printworthy redirects in addition to the cat(s) it already populates. – Paine Ellsworth  (  C LIMAX  )  19:06, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. As long as usage doesn't change Twinkle won't be affected. Amalthea  22:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Pleasure! – Paine Ellsworth  (  C LIMAX  )  04:36, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

uw-npa1 tld
Just for info guys, uw-npa1 has been put up for deletion. Cheers Khu kri 05:51, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. FTR, is going to be kept. Amalthea  22:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Failed to find target
Why can't it find the target to list a TFD today? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 21:44, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Because the boilerplate text used as a marker . Amalthea  22:52, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Tweak RPP
Is there any way to make semi-protect: vandalism the default setting? Mine always defaults to full protection: dispute, despite me choosing the former 100% of the time. doom gaze  (talk)  00:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable. I can imagine that semi-protect for vandalism is the most commonly requested kind of protection. I'll do it in the development version, which should be rolled out very soon... — This, that, and the other (talk) 08:49, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! doom gaze   (talk)  13:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Deployment of new twinkle
At this moment I will deploy the new twinkle code. I hope there aint too many issues :) New bugs should be filed at https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle. If you need edit access there, contact me and I'll add you as collab. → Aza Toth 21:44, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Erm, where's it gone? Twinkle seems to have completely disappeared for me - all that's in the TW menu is "Tag" and the Rollback links have gone from diffs. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 23:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Its gone for me too. --Kumioko (talk) 00:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Same here. –CWenger ( ^  •  @  ) 00:01, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, I've got it back now - not sure what did it, but I removed the import from my vector.js and re-added it (I tried using the Preferences/Gadgets page, but that didn't give me anything at all). Problem now is that the Rollback links don't work - I get a "latest revision is by the same editor" message (or something like that - can't remember exactly, sorry) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 00:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds fairly serious. I'll look into this. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I like the new twinkle --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  03:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the positive feedback! — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Mine's working now. Great job--Kumioko (talk) 03:16, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Cannot tag article
I tried to add cleanup and unref tags to an article using Twinkle, but after I checked off the relevant boxes and clicked "Submit Query", I got an error dialogue saying "You must select at least one tag!" This just started today. I'm using Firefox 4 on Windows 7. ... disco spinster   talk  00:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There is a typo on line 916 of friendlytag.js: tags.length should be !tags.length. So in other words tagging is totally broken at the moment. — This, that, and the other (talk) 02:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Same issue but didn't see this report at first. - When trying to tag articles I keep receiving the error message "please select at least one tag" even if I have selected 2 or 3 of them. --Wintonian (talk) 07:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Seeing double
I'm seeing doubles on every page. I've tried removing Twinkle and reinstalling the import on vector.js but it doesn't change. It wasn't happening 8 hours ago. --AussieLegend (talk) 03:36, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks to a suggestion on my talk page, this has now been resolved. --AussieLegend (talk) 04:44, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed,   Chzz  ►  06:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Warning dropdown missing
On the warning tab there are two dropdowns... the warning level (which stills seems to work), and the warning type which seems dead. All I see is a blank list in Firefox 3.6.3. Looks like a bug in twinkle? Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I will confirm that this is happening. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * This is working fine for me... very mysterious. Could everyone experiencing this problem please say which browser version they are using, and whether any errors are appearing in their browser's JavaScript log (see WP:TW/DOC)? Thanks, — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * A billion little errors come up like (expected "important' but found 'ie' on line 1.) Or (unknown property 'border-bottom-right-radius' declaration dropped) line 1. Bunches of those errors that link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiepedia talk:Twinkle. These happen as soon as I enter at my talk page. When I click the "warn" tab two other entries come up.
 * Warning: Expected end of value but found '!'. Error in parsing value for 'background-image'.  Declaration dropped.
 * and one with a big red x -
 * Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Not enough arguments" nsresult: "0x80570001 (NS_ERROR_XPC_NOT_ENOUGH_ARGS)"  location: "JS frame :: http://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=ext!UserBuckets%7Cext!UserBuckets!AccountCreationUserBucket%7Cext!articleFeedback!startup%7Cext!gadget!Twinkle%7Cjquery!checkboxShiftClick%7Cjquery!clickTracking%7Cjquery!client%7Cjquery!cookie%7Cjquery!placeholder%7Cjquery!tipsy%7Cjquery!ui!button%7Cjquery!ui!core%7Cjquery!ui!dialog%7Cjquery!ui!draggable%7Cjquery!ui!mouse%7Cjquery!ui!position%7Cjquery!ui!resizable%7Cjquery!ui!widget%7Cmediawiki!action!view!rightClickEdit%7Cmediawiki!language%7Cmediawiki!legacy!ajax%7Cmediawiki!legacy!ajaxwatch%7Cmediawiki!legacy!mwsuggest%7Cmediawiki!legacy!wikibits%7Cmediawiki!util&skin=monobook&version=20110529T215156Z :: anonymous :: line 68"  data: no]
 * I hope this helps you out. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:25, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Firefox 3.6.17
 * Windows 7 SP 1 64 bit.
 * I go to User talk:Fyunck(click).
 * I open the Javascipt console.
 * I clear the log.
 * I click Warn.
 * Console displays this error first
 * JS error in console: Warning: Expected end of value but found '!'. Error in parsing value for 'background-image'.  Declaration dropped.
 * Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fyunck(click)
 * Line: 0
 * Then it throws
 * Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Not enough arguments" nsresult: "0x80570001 (NS_ERROR_XPC_NOT_ENOUGH_ARGS)"  location: "JS frame :: http://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/load.php?debug=false&lang=en-gb&modules=ext!UserBuckets%7Cext!UserBuckets!AccountCreationUserBucket%7Cext!articleFeedback!startup%7Cext!gadget!Twinkle%7Cjquery!checkboxShiftClick%7Cjquery!clickTracking%7Cjquery!client%7Cjquery!cookie%7Cjquery!placeholder%7Cjquery!tipsy%7Cjquery!ui!button%7Cjquery!ui!core%7Cjquery!ui!dialog%7Cjquery!ui!draggable%7Cjquery!ui!mouse%7Cjquery!ui!position%7Cjquery!ui!resizable%7Cjquery!ui!widget%7Cmediawiki!language%7Cmediawiki!legacy!ajax%7Cmediawiki!legacy!ajaxwatch%7Cmediawiki!legacy!mwsuggest%7Cmediawiki!legacy!wikibits%7Cmediawiki!util&skin=monobook&version=20110529T215156Z :: anonymous :: line 68"  data: no]
 * Hope that helps. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Why is the source file the page I'm trying to warn? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much to you both for the comprehensive info. The big red X is where the problem lies. I cannot figure out the exact cause of the problem right at the moment; in the meantime, however, I suggest you upgrade to Firefox 4 - it's much faster, etc., than Firefox 3.6. Twinkle was developed on Firefox 4, so we know it works there. We will endeavour to fix this problem on older Firefox versions as soon as we can figure out what the cause is. — This, that, and the other (talk) 07:44, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * On using Firefox 4.0.1 the warning tab has all the correct features. I haven't had to use it to check that it works as before but at least the menu choices are there. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:44, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ . Remember to bypass your cache. Amalthea 07:44, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Twinkle revert tools not showing up in 'User contributions'
Normally when I go to "User contributions" I get a red revert button. It's not there anymore. The rest of the standard Twinkle package is still there. Can someone help?  S ven M anguard  Wha?  07:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've selected this option on the prefs page, purged, emptied cache, etc., but it's still absent. I don't necessarily want to rollback self—I usually do that manually with an accompanying grovel—but it's very useful as a quick "since mine" check. --Old Moonraker (talk) 09:29, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Old Moonraker: What browser are you using? Could you follow the link to your Twinkle preferences  and bypass your browser cache there once? Wild guess, maybe some browsers don't extend the cache-bypass to resources requested by scripts. Amalthea  10:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's a fix. Thanks (as in the past) for your prompt intervention. It's FF 4.0.1. --Old Moonraker (talk) 10:29, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Odd, a standard bypass on any page with active Twinkle (i.e. not on the preferences or login page) should have worked in FF4. But as long as it's working now … Amalthea  10:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sven: On your own contributions, or that of others? Amalthea  10:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermnind for me. I didn't realize that it reset to non-default when the changeover happened. I fixed the issues I was having in my twinkleoptions.js page.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  19:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

All Twinkle functions disappeared
Since the upgrade I have lost all Twinkle functions, no vandalism rollback, no warning menu etc. I am on Firefox 4, Windows 7. --Saddhiyama (talk) 08:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, it was just a case of having to bypass the browser cache.--Saddhiyama (talk) 08:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice. Lots of new features. Looking forward to explore them all. --Saddhiyama (talk) 08:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Dialogs in Firefox 3
From the TW tab, if I choose XfD on an article, I get an AfD dialog, but it doesn't work. The "Deletion discussion venue" popup and the "Notify page creator if possible" checkbox are there, and both of those appear to respond. But below that there's a box labeled "Work area", but that doesn't respond - don't know what it's supposed to be, but it's just a blue rectangle. And the "Submit Query" button doesn't do anything - the whole thing just sits there when I click it. (Mac OS 10.6.7, Firefox 3.6.17) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * But if I use Safari (5.0.5) it works. I get a whole different dialog box - instead of an empty "Work area" box I get a box labeled "Articles for deletion" containing all the proper things - Wrap, Category, and Reason. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's similar with the PROD dialog. It works with Safari, but with Firefox (for Mac) I get the PROD/BLP PROD radio buttons and underneath that an empty "Work area" dialog, and the "Propose deletion" button doesn't work. But, if I toggle the radio buttons and back, I then get the proper "Parameters" box and it all works. Testing the XfD dialog a bit further, I can get that to work by toggling the venue and back - once I've flipped to, say, TfD and back, the "Work area" box has been replaced by the proper thing and it's fine (I don't know what language Twinkle is written in, but I'm a Java programmer and it's as if the subclass constructor is not happening - don't know if that makes any sense) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Just in case it got lost in my edit above, I can make the broken dialogs work in Firefox 3.6.17. They're apparently not being initialized properly, but if I toggle their purpose (eg AfD to TfD and back, PROD to BLP PROD and back) they get initialized properly and work - it works for AIV, CSD, PROD, XFD, and PP which, as far as I can see, are the ones affected -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Workaround...
 * PS: I'd also like to say how much I like the new look and feel and the new facilities (and the use of the API, which should hopefully bring great stability/compatibility improvements) - many thanks to those who have clearly put a lot of effort into this -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And yes, I'd agree this is low priority, especially as there appears to be an easy workaround for FF3 -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The workaround is poorly explained. I tried earlier in the day and could not understand what I had to do to make it work. I also have extensions that I use at home that don't work in FF 4 and so will not be able to upgrade soon. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * After you open e.g. the ARV dialog, change the report type from Vandalism to something else, and then back to Vandalism. The input form should be properly initialized after that. Amalthea  19:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ( I'd started so I'll finish )Take, say, XFD. If you choose XFD when you're on an article, you get an AfD dialog that doesn't work - there's a box that just says "Work area" and clicking the button does nothing. But if you change it to, say, FfD using the popup - that works. So then change it back to AfD and you're set to go. Similarly PROD gives you PROD/BLPROD options - change the option and then change it back, and it works. ARV - change the report type and back. PP (admin only) - change the Type of action and back. (CSD doesn't need it, sorry). That's the way it was early this morning, anyway - I've upgraded to Ff 4 now and didn't keep an old Ff 3. Regarding your inability to upgrade, I don't know what it's like on Windows, but on a Mac you can easily keep multiple versions and use different ones for different sites - might be worth seeing if you can do that? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:16, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * We shouldn't be needing  workarounds, we need tools that  work  after they  have first been tested and debugged. This new twinkle control  panel is full  of good ideas, and full  of new bugs too  many  to  ist  here, and all  tis comes after its problems with  the new Wiki  software upgrade, and the introduction  of Firefox 4. It's incredible that  to  use all  the tools and features on  Mac, I  have to  have four  browser windows open: Safari  in  in monobook  and vector, and Firefox in  monobook  and vector. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:56, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Isn't it easy to complain when you don't need to to the coding and testing yourself? → Aza Toth 10:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad to know the workaround works, since there is close to zero chance I will upgrade to FF4. I think that FF4 was one of the uninstalls  I have ever done, primarily because there was no longer a quick pulldown of the last 15 or so pages in your history. For me is an absolutely indispensable tool for editing Wikipedia (the ability to go back, in a single click, to a page I've recently accessed, in the same part of the page, is the only efficient way I can make sure I cover my entire watchlist).  Qwyrxian (talk) 02:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I go to User talk:Boing! said Zebedee. I click on the Warn tab that is added by Twinkle. The first combo box, severity, is populated. The second, warning type, is not. There are no buttons or links to "Work area". So is where's the workaround for this? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I was just coming to report the same thing: the workaround works for things like ARV and XfD, but not for the warnings dialogue; not sure what the difference is. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The same problem in Camino which uses the Firefox 3 Gecko engine. GcSwRhIc (talk) 03:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ . Remember to bypass your cache. Amalthea 07:44, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks as always, Amalthea! I was thinking it might have been getComputedStyle, but I (foolishly!) assumed that Firefox would gracefully handle too few arguments. Seems I was wrong. Sorry for all the inconvenience this has caused people. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:01, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No; I don't  have to  do  the coding  and testing, but  I  rack  up  around 2,000 edits a month doing  other housekeeping  tasks. Horses for courses ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Confirmed. Thanks for the fix. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Null tags
As far as I can tell does nothing, Twinkle adds this tag every time I tag an article. Any reason for this?  X  eworlebi (talk) 11:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Brokenness is the reason. Article tagging is holding together by a thread at the moment. I think there are probably some more typos in the code. I'll look at it when I get a spare moment. For the moment, know that null is intentionally designed to do nothing, so it is harmless (although completely unnecessary). — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

✅, bypass your cache to get the updated script. Amalthea 08:46, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Reversion error
Starting yesterday, Twinkle stopped working in Camino (2.1a2pre). Every attempt to revert would get the same error message:"Warning: Latest revision ######### doesn't equal our revision ######### Warning: Latest revision was made by ###.##.##.##. As we assume good faith, we stop reverting, as the problem might have been fixed." In Safari (5.05) it would work, but there would be a duplicate level of warnings. Now this morning I get the same error in Safari, Firefox (4.0.1) as in Camino. GcSwRhIc (talk) 12:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I am having the same issue (using Safari 5.0.5 on OS X 10.6.7). I am unable to perform AGF or normal rollback, but the vandalism option still works (although it displays the message about the revisions being different, it still completes the revert, instead of aborting). That said, I do love the new Twinkle and my thanks go to the developers. If this could be fixed then everything would be perfect. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 13:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm also getting this in Firefox and as far as I'm aware I'm using the most up to date version of both Firefox and Twinkle. Also I've noticed when I'm trying to warn people the drop down box is absolutely tiny now!  No idea if the two are connected?--5 albert square (talk) 13:08, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks. Remember to bypass your browser cache. Amalthea  13:27, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you.GcSwRhIc (talk) 13:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Help icon
I was wondering why there was a little diamond ring next to each label, then I discovered it was the help icon :) Wouldn't it make more sense to use a question mark rather than something that sort of looks like a light bulb? Kaldari (talk) 19:19, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought it was a light bulb, but now that I stare at it some more, it does look like an upside-down ring. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  02:53, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought it was a diamond ring too! LOL I definitely think a question mark would be more appropriate. Is anyone else seeing the font set about point size 4? It can't be just an isolated incident of which I am the recipient. Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?  Cind. amuse  03:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

CSD A7 for Animals is missing
For some reason CSD A7 for Animals is not included, is this done in purpose or what? Thanks!  JohnHWiki  talk  - 05:14, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It sure is omitted on purpose. How often do you really need it?? "Very rarely" is the answer. Hence, not worth including in Twinkle. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the clarification.  JohnHWiki  talk  - 12:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Twinkle gadgets description
It might be a good idea for the Twinkle gadget description to be updated, removing the browser-specific part (because IE works now), and adding the Friendly functionality. Currently it is "Twinkle, a set of tools for Firefox, Safari, and Opera that automates common tasks such as reporting vandalism, warning vandals, and requesting deletion." ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  08:14, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You're right. How about now:
 * Twinkle, a set of tools that automates common tasks such as reporting vandalism, warning vandals, requesting deletion, welcoming users, and tagging articles.
 * Amalthea 08:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Perfect! And congrats to everyone on the new Twinkle, it seems like most (all?) of the long-standing bugs got cleared up, while the interface and functionality improved. Thanks for keeping it running smoothly! ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  08:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Text size in dialogue box
When I attempt to use Twinkle, all text in the dialogue box for all issues is about point size four. Very tiny. Is anyone else experiencing this? I use Firefox 4 and have refreshed, bypassed, and cleared my cache. Any solutions to this issue? Thanks,  Cind. amuse  08:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What skin are you using? Amalthea  08:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If Modern, can you bypass your cahce and try again? Amalthea  09:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm using Modern and bypassed several times to no avail. That said, after taking a short break, it's now working. (You're good.)  Cind. amuse  09:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

There should now be a preference to make Twinkle text sizes bigger, for those with poorer eyesight. I don't know if it works, but we'll see... — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:45, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm, no, it doesn't seem to work. Sorry to disappoint. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:48, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that it's necessary anyway as long as the font size is not smaller than in articles. Amalthea  11:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm just curious...
But is this "vandalism" tag a Twinkle error or just a common occurrence of sorts? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * "[rollback (VANDAL)]" shows up on any latest edit to a page that can be reverted as vandalism. Is that what you're referring to? Logan Talk Contributions 00:01, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I got it. Apparently I have never viewed page differences in Twinkle in the few times that I have used it. Thanks! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, we've all got to learn somehow. Welcome to Twinkle!  SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:12, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcome section headings
Can someone explain what "This only works if headings are enabled." means from the "Insert a section heading before welcomes" part of the Twinkle setting panel? Where can headings be enabled? I'm using a custom welcome template and would like it under a ==Welcome== section header. Is there a way to do this? — Bility (talk) 20:52, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * That help tip appears next to the text box "Section heading to use for welcomes". It refers to the fact that the checkbox to which you refer has to be checked in order for the heading name to have any effect. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:46, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, well in that case, it's not inserting a heading before the welcome template. Firefox 4, Monobook skin. — Bility (talk) 11:19, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * If you use the pre-defined w-graphical from the "Welcoming committee templates" section instead of the one from your custom templates it will work. This is due to a deficiency that Friendly always had with custom templates: It won't let you define the required meta information for advanced features like headings. Amalthea  14:23, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Didn't see it was already in the list. Cheers, — Bility (talk) 15:25, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Month/Date localization for Bengali Wikipedia from twinklewarn.js
I am trying to TWINKLE localize for our Bengali wikipedia, I have a quaries one output. For warn in every warning staring with heading ==May 2011==, it may be return from code of twinklewarn.js

var headerRe = new RegExp( "^==+\\s*(?:" + date.getUTCMonthName + '|' + date.getUTCMonthNameAbbrev + ")\\s+" + date.getUTCFullYear + "\\s*==+", 'm' );

In our Bengali wikipedia it comes in English like "May 2011". Is there any possible it comes in our Bengali language "মে ২০১১"?

--- Jayanta Nath (Talk 16:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Is there any quarries about this issue? - Jayanta Nath (Talk 18:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The user's browser provides these language names, which appear to be always in English. The only way around this would be to use a switch statement:

— This, that, and the other (talk) 07:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

CSD logging
There seems to be a checkbox missing in Twinkle/Preferences, for "Keep the CSD userspace log at this user subpage"? Ie, no checkbox to enable/disable that feature. (Compare to PROD)

---Aside: I'm really pleased that CSD and PROD has been integrated with the new version - I requested this, some time ago. Great stuff.  Chzz  ► 23:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's there, hiding up above the last CSD criteria list. — This, that, and the other (talk) 02:05, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooh, so it is, thanks.
 * Thus, this request becomes;
 * Please could the checkbox for "Keep the CSD userspace log at this user subpage" be moved so that it is directly above "Keep the CSD userspace log at this user subpage"? Thanks,  Chzz  ► 02:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I already made this change on my laptop, and I'll update it on-wiki as soon as I can. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * All the logging capabilities are gone. Tested to see if they worked and they do not. --Ebe123 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * FTR, see . Amalthea  12:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This change was uploaded a long time ago. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Can't delete CSD F4....
First off, I love the new Twinkle. But, there seems to be a problem deleting files for CSD F4, F5 and so on. (Forgive me for not posting at the link you gave—I can't figure that site out)

So when I click "CSD" tag on a file I wish to delete, the list shows up as usual. A few are missing and there is a note "Tagging for CSD F4 (no license), F5 (orphaned fair use), F6 (no fair use rationale), and F11 (no permission) can be done using Twinkle's "DI" tab." at the bottom. But, when I click the "DI" tab, it doesn't delete the page, it just tags it. Could someone work on this?

Thanks, — G FOLEY   F OUR  — 01:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Good catch! F4/5/6/11 need to be re-added to the CSD dialog for admins. Sorry about that. I'll fix it soon. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! — G FOLEY   F OUR  — 03:02, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * This was fixed a while ago. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Rollback fails
I am trying to use the standard middle "Rollback" link on the article Daniel 2 with two revisions by. It fails with the following error:
 * Warning: Latest revision 431571411 doesn't equal our revision 431571411
 * Notice: Latest revision was made by Lindnermedia, but we will stop reverting anyway.
 * Action: completed

Rollback (AGF) also fails with the same error. Elizium23 (talk) 01:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes and the welcome and warn templates have moved a long way down the list which is a pain. Where was the consensus for this? Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 01:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Consensus? It's a gadget for pete's sake. — G FOLEY   F OUR  — 01:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes and it would be nice if they moved back up. -- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Consensus SERIOUSLY ? —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 06:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The order is deletion-related, then namespace-specific, then misc (unlink/last). I'm not emotionally attached to any particular order, personally; if a few people say they want the order changed, we'll probably do it. — This, that, and the other (talk) 02:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I seem to be having the same issue with rollback. --Wintonian (talk) 03:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't rollback or AGF, and yes, consensus or at least explain why the change was made. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Same problem here - can't rollback, Latest revision doesn't equal our revision. --Muhandes (talk) 07:57, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Rollback, thanks. Remember to bypass your browser cache. Amalthea  13:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

The order of Twinkle tabs/menu items has been changed. Do people like it as it stands? (You might need to bypass your browser cache to see the re-ordering.) — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:08, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

ARV
I'm unable to report a username to ARV using twinkle, as it is constantly telling me that there is an edit conflict (when there isn't) - Happysailor  (Talk) 12:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I can confirm that. Am looking into it … Amalthea  12:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, this is annoying, I could reproduce it at first, but when I started debugging it the behavior disappeared, and it's now working for me as designed. Happysailor, can you try again please? Amalthea  12:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Works now -  Happysailor  (Talk) 12:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I'm sure this one will be back. :\ Amalthea  13:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * clearly an Heisenbug :) → Aza Toth 13:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's back - can't report to ARV again due to edit conflict - Happysailor  (Talk) 10:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Works for me. :/ Amalthea  11:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Still not able to report both UAA & AIV - Happysailor  (Talk) 19:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I can do AIV, not UAA. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 02:57, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * AIV works but UAA is not possible.Marcus Qwertyus   01:36, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ditto, EBE123  talkContribs 18:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ARV not working for me. :(   Orange Marlin  Talk• Contributions 01:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Glitchy, as above. Meph <font color="silver" face="Verdana">talk 17:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Happened for me as well attempting to report this IP. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  23:07, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

TTO thinks he has identified the underlying problem with the API. If this is still happening to anyone, please let us know. Amalthea 09:37, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've not had any problems this morning. thanks  Teapot  george <sup style="color:blue;">Talk  09:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Problems with AIV were probably already fixed since yesterday, bigger question is whether UAA is good now, too. Amalthea  09:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just reported a username to UAA with no problems. It appears to be working now. —Bruce1eetalk 10:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, seems to be working just fine for me too now -  Happysailor  (Talk) 08:51, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Processing AIV request: Failed to save edit: Edit conflict detected
Attempting to report an IP for vandalism after 4th warning. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:47, 3 June 2011 (UTC) If it matters, I was seeing this using Firefox 4 in Windows 7 32 bit. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:37, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Also had a AIV request failure using Camino. Message was "Processing AIV request: Could not resolve redirects for: Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism." Worked fine with Safari. GcSwRhIc (talk) 02:01, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I get the same error message when reporting user names.  Teapot  george <sup style="color:blue;">Talk  10:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm also getting edit conflict errors when trying to report a user name (UAA), and I've tried several times (FF 4.01 on Win7 32-bit). —Bruce1eetalk 12:52, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I also got this when trying to report a username with google chrome. --CutOffTies (talk) 13:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

See above  -  Happysailor  (Talk) 14:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm still having the same problem with edit conflict errors when reporting user names.  Teapot  george  <sup style="color:blue;">Talk  15:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Twinkle menu -- dropdown vs. tabs in Vector
I'm talking about Twinkle/doc here. I vastly prefer tabs over the dropdown menu. The doc say to tell you if I want it fixed, and I want it fixed. What are the chances of getting this to work again? jcgoble3 (talk) 02:43, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I want the Twinkle menu back in the single dropdown with the "move", etc. links. How do I do that? / ƒETCH COMMS  /  02:57, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The reason I didn't bother to fix this is because it's a puzzle to fix. My suggestion is to install Twinkle in your vector.js, rather than using the gadget. Of course, you need to leave the TwinkleConfig.portlet... stuff there. Does that work for you? — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * A puzzle how? What preferences to expose? Amalthea  11:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Because of loading sequence issues. We have to ensure that the TwinkleConfig prefs are set before morebits.js is loaded and modules begin to add their tabs/menu items to the page. Gadgets are loaded before the skin JS file is, hence why I am recommending to include Twinkle using importScript if you want to move your tabs around. (By the way, is this feature of Twinkle working for anybody as it stands? It ought to...) — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I see. With all Twinkle modules and initializations centralized it should be enough to make sure the user prefs are loaded before <tt>Twinkle.load</tt> is called though, right? Amalthea  12:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately not. See the bottom of MediaWiki:Gadget-morebits.js. If you have a better suggestion, I'll be pleased to hear it... — This, that, and the other (talk) 12:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * … if all the Twinkle-specific stuff (including twAddPortlet) is moved from morebits to Twinkle.js? Amalthea  12:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I might be possible of moving the inclusion of morebits via resourceloader, i.e. ext.gadgets.morebits. → Aza Toth 19:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * (reply to first comment from This, that and the other) Yes, that works. Thanks! jcgoble3 (talk) 20:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

FYI: portlet configuration has now been moved to the new twinkleoptions.js. If you need help moving your settings, feel free to ask. Jcgoble3, I moved your settings already. :) Amalthea  21:23, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was about to ask why Twinkle was again showing up in the dropdown menu, but I fixed that by simply bypassing my cache. Looks good now. Thanks again! jcgoble3 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:09, 11 June 2011 (UTC).

User:name/twinkleoptions.js
Is it nececesary to make this page first in order to save the twinkle options? Does it need to go in some particular part of user preferences.? Whether I make it or not, twinkle options does not work for me (Safari), I have been bypassing the cache.  DGG ( talk ) 12:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It will generate twinkleoptions.js for you, so there's no need to manually make it. But have you still got old twinkle options in your vector.js or monobook.js? If so, you'll need to remove those for the new ones to work properly -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, you'll need to remove old Friendly settings too -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * How does it fail you? If you visit WP:TW/PREFS, go to the very bottom, and click "Save", what happens? Amalthea  06:55, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if it's related, but for me on Safari the preferences fail to write because "Saving preferences to User:Uncle Milty/twinkleoptions.js: Could not resolve redirects for: User Uncle Milty/twinkleoptions.js". The page with this error goes by so fast that I had to screen capture it to get it. You can see a cropped version here: . As an experiment, I went ahead and created that subpage in my userspace, but that doesn't solve the problem. -- <font color="#ffffff">&#124; <font color="#000051">Uncle Milty &#124; <font color="#005c00">talk  <font color="#ffffff">&#124; 16:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't know if it is resolved for everyone, but it now works for me. Thanks all. -- <font color="#ffffff">&#124; <font color="#000051">Uncle Milty &#124; <font color="#005c00">talk  <font color="#ffffff">&#124; 12:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

CSD-F2
Image tagging of files on Wikimedia Commons is broken. <font color="#21421" >Marcus <font color="#CC7722" >Qwertyus   17:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks. Next time, please give a description of the exact function you tried to use that didn't work. In this case: "Tagging the image File:Sunny Leone 3 2009.jpg with the CSD function, tag 'F2: Unneeded file description page', does not work". Amalthea  06:40, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Wrong link on user talk
I nominated Eaiea for AfD. Twinkle correctly identified that it needed to create a second nomination. But it linked to the old discussion when notifying the author. &mdash; RHaworth 09:44, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed. This is due to the merge of the old AFDWarning to the new AfD-notice. T. Canens (talk) 19:11, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Notify if Possible is always notyfing
I believe the "Notify if Possible" checkbox is not working, as I uncheck it (to avoid repeated notifications) and it still post to user talk page. --<span class="I_STALK_DAMIENS">damiens.rf 19:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It works for me. Has it fixed itself since? — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:53, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work for FfDs. This should have fixed it. T. Canens (talk) 14:19, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Applied to repository. Amalthea  14:32, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletions
Is there a way to turn off the dialogue asking if I want to modify the deletion summary? For most of the deletions I do with this tool, this is a extra window I must click through, and some of the reasons would never need to be modified (broken redirects, orphaned talk pages, author request, etc.) Courcelles 20:18, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Will do. I'll make it criterion-based if you like, or a single checkbox if you want. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this is working now. See the preference "Allow editing of deletion summary when deleting under these criteria" in the CSD section of WP:TWPREFS. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Courcelles 18:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Notifying myself of tagging my pages
I just noticed that the default is to notify the user of CSDs, even when I am tagging my own Userspace page for deletion. This certainly isn't going to break anything, I'm just pointing it out. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  05:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You can turn off the "Notify if possible" checkbox in these instances. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Bug with F2
I recently tagged a few files with F2: "unneeded description for file hosted in commons..." The articles were tagged correctly. However, the uploader was tagged with faulty notification templates:, , ,. Singularity42 (talk) 12:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That's because Twinkle is trying to use db-fpcfail-notice, which doesn't actually exist. I don't have time right now to create it. Perhaps someone else could. — This, that, and the other (talk) 12:23, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirected to Template:Db-noimage-notice, thanks for the report. Amalthea  13:49, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Rollback on own edits
When I used the rollback feature on my edits I was presented with my talkpage afterwards. Tempted to give myself a warning template! It's a useful function normally, but unnecessary in this example. doom gaze  (talk)  14:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done. Amalthea  15:08, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Error with PUF nominations
I used TW to list File:Pictures-of-knights-2.jpg as a possibly unfree file. TW notified the uploader, but did not put a template up at PUF, I had to do that manually.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  07:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * There was a mistake in the code. in the repo. — This, that, and the other (talk)  10:30, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Minor word change on list of welcome msgs
Template:Welcome-COI says "I notice that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest". However, in the welcome msg options, it says it is for a user who recently created an article with a COI. I wasn't using it for edits to an existing article until I realized it actually can be used in that situation.

Thanks. --CutOffTies (talk) 13:29, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling us. on repo. (BTW, the tooltips in that welcome dialog are very confusing. I'll see if I can clean them up.) — This, that, and the other (talk)  04:08, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Wording of edit summary on histmerge
This request appears to have been lost when the "Bugs and feature requests" were migrated, so I'll ask again here. Selecting "G6: History merge" from the CSD menu leaves an edit summary of "Requesting speedy deletion". The tag was recently changed to remove all mention of the word "delete", so I wonder if it would be prudent to change the automatically generated edit summary to something along the lines of "Requesting history merge". &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 16:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reporting this. on repo. — This, that, and the other (talk)  04:07, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Blacklist
Upon seeing a current ANI thread, I was reminded to ask this: Now that this complete overhaul has taken place, where is the blacklist located ? —DoRD (talk) 23:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * A bit of searching around turned up this, apparently the blacklist may have been removed as a result of that. - Kingpin13 (talk) 00:58, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Just as well. If I were faced with someone who is disrupting Wikipedia with Twinkle, I'd reach for the full ban-hammer and block them outright before I'd consider revoking Twinkle access, because it's more of a behavioral issue than a tool issue.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps so. The current issue seems to be a case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. I haven't (yet) read the full discussion linked above, but it seems to me that a variable could be added to <tt>twinkleprefs.js</tt>, something like <tt>disable = true</tt>, so that admins could disable an individual user's Twinkle and then full-protect the page. Then again, I don't know what it would take to implement that. Thanks —DoRD (talk) 01:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Check out the discussion, because otherwise, we'll end up retreading that discussion, and it's pretty thorough. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:01, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the shove; I've scanned enough of the prior discussion to drop my suggestion. You're right: If, after proper warnings, someone willfully misuses the tool, a block is warranted. Cheers —DoRD (talk) 02:13, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. I didn't know, but I understand now. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:40, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Added link to Twinkle preferences panel as a hatnote
Seems we didn't have a quick hit-on-sight link for people just wanting to tinker with their Twinkle preferences. After enough times having to *look* for the link for the Twinkle preferences page, I have added it as a hatnote, putting it at the top, for the sake of convenience. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * How to disable it? It sometimes can really annoy me.  Like, who would want that you are not tring to find it, you are just editing a js file and that hatnote comes in.   EBE123  talkContribs 21:47, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ebe123, you're referring to something different than to Twinkle.  The notice at the top of your JS files is located in the Twinkle code (find "twinkle-config-headerbox" on the page). Logan Talk Contributions 21:59, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Twinkle no longer showing up?
I was using it earlier, but now it isn't showing up. I've tried bypassing the cache and restarting firefox - Happysailor  (Talk) 21:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It just started happening to me too. Paper Luigi  T • C 21:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Three. Ol Yeller  '''<font style="color:#827839;">Talktome 21:28, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Same here using Firefox browser on an iMac twinkle has disappeared I've also tried bypassing the cache and restarting firefox without success  Teapot  george  <sup style="color:blue;">Talk  21:29, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * (e/c)Four. --Saddhiyama (talk) 21:30, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Not just me going insane then It's amazing how much you end up relying on something... -  Happysailor  (Talk) 21:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Now it's back... Paper Luigi  T • C 21:35, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep back for me too Yay  Teapot  george <sup style="color:blue;">Talk  21:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Me as well. --Saddhiyama (talk) 21:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Odd, I don't see that I broke anything, and it was still working fine here for me when your posts came up. I reverted some changes from 45 minutes ago nonetheless, and was starting to see problems afterwards (without anything in the log, but for some reason "Twinkle.load" wasn't defined anymore, so the script wasn't loaded at all apparently). Everythings's back to normal now for me, but I can't say whether there really was an issue with my changes (which as I said were working well for me) or whether that was e.g. a glitch in the resource loader. I'll try again tomorrow. <tt>o_O</tt> Amalthea  21:41, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I presume people here are referring to the fact that Twinkle no longer shows up next to the standard rollback button on watchlists and list of contributions? I was confused at first, but of course, the Twinkle buttons have simply moved to the page diffs. This, in my opinion, is much better. Twinkle buttons all over the watchlist and contribs-list were untidy and hard on the eye. It's much better now :) <font color="Blue">Orphan <font color="Tiffany Blue">Wiki 10:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No, the complaint was about all Twinkle features having completely vanished, including the Twinkle-menu and page diff-options, so comparable to not having Twinkle installed at all. However, as can be seen above, they did return after a few minutes. --Saddhiyama (talk) 11:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. <font color="Blue">Orphan <font color="Tiffany Blue">Wiki 10:55, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Remove tag
Should twinkle have a remove tag function? Wilbysuffolk  talk  08:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I really don't mind either way, because I can see such a tool being handy, but also, I don't know if it will do much better than just removing the tag via conventional editing, depending on how it's implemented. SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Let me ask you this before any further discussion: how were you envisioning such a thing being implemented? SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I could imagine an extra "Untag" tab, providing a list of tags in the article, with checkboxes to uncheck in order to remove them. It would probably also need the ability to provide a custom edit summary. Rd232 talk 03:29, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a very good idea, which can go on the to-do list. I personally don't have time to write this, for the moment at least; anyone interested in writing new bits for Twinkle should check out the github repo, or contact me or . — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

tweak of Template:Uw-attack
See Wikipedia talk:Template messages/User talk namespace. Not sure if Twinkle will need to be tweaked in some way in order to work without the article name parameter. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Twinkle doesn't use that template (see testing example) but the point made at the above talkpage would seem to make sense for Twinkle as well. —DoRD (talk) 21:30, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Remove attack page name from warning
Per the above and the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Template messages/User talk namespace, perhaps Twinkle shouldn't note the page name in the heading of the warning, either. I don't know enough about the structure of Twinkle to even find where speedy warnings are issued, though. —DoRD (talk) 21:30, 19 May 2011 (UTC)