Wikipedia talk:Unreviewed featured articles/Archive 3

General notes
To see if they help any, at WP Tropical cyclones and at WP Birds. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:06, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Stats
Are wrong. We started out with 316, Cynna was removed followed by Chola dynasty and Schaibir Shaik trial, but we have 314 in the lists. I can't see where the glitches occurred, and am not willing to search. I'd prefer to remove the footnotes, adjust all the stats to match with the 314 we currently have and leave it at that. DrKiernan (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * did you check my old footnote? I audited it years ago.  If you can't find it, I can look.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 18:24, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * What I meant was: this edit introduced an extra article that wasn't there before. That is why there were 314 articles in the unreviewed to June 2006 lists instead of 313. I have removed Indian Standard Time from the lists/tables. DrKiernan (talk) 19:48, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry to be obtuse, but the stats still aren't working. From this version: Sandy Georgia (Talk) 11:42, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) The chart says there are 84 unreviewed articles, but there are only 82 listed (17 2005, 65 are listed at 2006, but the number says 66 incorrectly).
 * Related to this? Sandy Georgia (Talk) 12:07, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) The chart says 61 were kept, but the list has 63 (which month were they kept).
 * Found that: one in December, one in January.
 * 1) 82 + 168 + 63= 313.
 * So the 313 is now correct, since the Cirt error was corrected? Sandy Georgia (Talk) 12:07, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

OK, updated through December, think it's good now. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 12:19, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Missing
Curious that saffron is not on this list, when it is at this list. Anyway, I am notifying talk now at Saffron. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 16:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's in the status retained list as "Reviewed on talk, November 2008". Must have been moved down without FAR. DrKiernan (talk) 17:23, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

FAs by date since last FAC or FAR (December 2014)

 * See also Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/archive63. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 12:52, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Copied from WT:FAC Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 15:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Quatermass and the Pit (August 2004)
 * Source review & copyedit underway Dec 2014 by Angmering and Eric Corbett.
 * , where does this stand? Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 14:53, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it's good now. Everything is cited and updated with the latest sources. Eric   Corbett  15:07, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

* Inactive users
 * 1) John Millington Synge (October 2004)  *
 * 2) Geology of the Death Valley area (May 2005) *
 * Overhauled by Mav in 2010.
 * Still has uncited text. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:07, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * History of the Grand Canyon area (May 2005) *
 * At FAR March 2015
 * Defeatured.
 * 1) Myxobolus cerebralis (May 2005)  *
 * Chagas disease (July 2005) *
 * Tim Vickers and I (SG) overhauled this in about 2008, and is watching it, seems fine
 * Had an external peer review in 2010
 * Looks fairly decent still, but I am leaving it on the list, and pinging as I see some dated text (eg: It results in about 12,500 deaths a year as of 2006 ... ) Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:07, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I updated the lead in Feb of 2014. This is not a very intensively studied disease. Thus a 2010 Lancet review gives the most recent data about mortality. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 17:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Doc ... I am striking this from the list, but I encourage others to doublecheck and revert me if needed, as I worked on the article years ago. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:18, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) USS Missouri (BB-63) (July 2005)  *
 * PR by Maralia in 2008
 * Gas metal arc welding (July 2005) *
 * At FAR Jan 2015
 * Kept Jan 2015
 * 1) Restoration spectacular (August 2005)
 * 2) Astrophysics Data System (August 2005)  *
 * Marine shrimp farming (August 2005)
 * At FAR Jan 2015
 * Delisted Jan 2015
 * Cerebellum (August 2005) *
 * At FAR Jan 2015
 * Kept Mar 2015
 * 1) Flag of Belarus (September 2005)
 * 2) Multiple sclerosis (October 2005)
 * Major rewrite/update in Sep 2008 and Dec 2009 by Garrondo, with copyedit from Maralia.
 * Source review in July 2013
 * watches this
 * 1) Sicilian Baroque (October 2005)
 * 2) War of the League of Cambrai (November 2005)
 * 3) Yarralumla, Australian Capital Territory (November 2005)  *
 * Planetary habitability (November 2005)  *
 * At Far Mar 2015
 * Defeatured.
 * 1) Early life of Joseph Smith (December 2005)
 * 2) Australian green tree frog (December 2005)  *
 * At FAR Apr 2015
 * 1) Dinosaur (December 2005)  *
 * 2) Short-beaked echidna (December 2005)  *
 * See note below, overhauled 2010
 * 1) Economy of the Iroquois (December 2005)
 * 2) Gas tungsten arc welding (December 2005)  *
 * 3) Saffron (December 2005)
 * 4) KaDee Strickland (December 2005)

The last is the only BLP, and the only one where the date is of its FAR (its FAC was in September 2005). The others never had FARs. Only two are more than 10 years old. Over 2,000 FACs are over five years old. Some FACs are older than these but are not listed because they have more recent FARs. For example, Batman was promoted in December 2003, but had a FAR in June 2006. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:13, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Short-beaked echidna got an overhaul and much-improved referencing in early 2010 by who had suggested it may need to go to FAR in 2009. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:23, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * So, we should agree on a list methodology and add them to a sub-page before we start listing good or bad of each :) Multiple sclerosis is not up to snuff ... based on ancient sources.  But no need to comment on each of them here, since we need to decide how deep to go into "old".  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 13:10, 30 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hawkeye7, when you say over 2,000 FAs are over five years old, does that mean without a FAR? Are you able to generate a list of every FA whose most recent entry in ArticleHistory is, for example, 2009 or older?  That is, if there has been a FAR since 2010, they would not show up.  Are you able to calculate how many articles that would be ?  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 13:10, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 2,373 to be exact. The most recent of these is Flag of Singapore (December 2009). This is based on the date of the most recent FAC or FAR. Some articles have had many FACs and FARs. I have a full list. If we review one per diem, we can knock the whole list off in just 6½ years.  Hawkeye7 (talk) 18:27, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Time for new list
I was hoping someone else would do this, but I'm game. The articles left on the URFA page at this stage do not represent the most deficient FAs, so I submit that it's time to generate an updated list. , if you can put in a sandbox page an alphabetical (I find that easier to deal with than by date of last FAR) list of every article without a FAR through and including 2008 (that is, more than 1,500 articles), including their nominators, I will consolidate with a) the current URFA page, b) the list above, c) the Colonel Henry list on WT:FAR, and d) the ultra-long FAs that have grown since promotion or are BLPs. Then I will go through and delete any that we know are maintained by still-active nominators, we can all discuss/remove those we know are still up to snuff (Dweller's list and other sources), and see where we are. Once we get a good list, we can close out the current stats at URFA, with a footnote that we're migrating to an updated list. Would you have time to sandbox the alphabetical list at Unreviewed featured articles/sandbox? Sandy Georgia (Talk) 00:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ... me again. The page is in need of a new outdated list for processing :)  Perhaps the 2008 list is too much work?  If so, if you are able to send me a spreadsheet, for example of those missing FARs through 2007,  I could prune the list down by incorporating Dweller's reviews and removing those from known still-active editors, and put up a preliminary list for us to prune.  I am hoping you are still interested in producing these lists.  If not, could you please let me know, and we will have to find someone else.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 19:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I've been away. I will produce it this weekend. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:23, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ... once you have a start, it will need a lot of consolidation work (bring in other lists and prune known active FA writers who are maintaining their FAs).  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 20:26, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Posted. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, ... what a task, and I so appreciate the work!  It will take me some time to massage it into a replacement for this page (see all the steps outlined in the old discussion at WT:FAR).  I will keep this page posted on progress, with the aim of consolidating and replacing the current list of URFA with a new list.  Bst, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 13:52, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Three per week
DrK and Maralia, I've been kind of hogging the three-per-week rule ... tomorrow, two more can go up ... do either of you have something you want to put up, or should I go ahead down the list? Sandy Georgia (Talk) 16:16, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * For my part, I'm happy for you to go ahead this week or any other. DrKiernan (talk) 18:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't mind. If I come across anything particularly egregious that ought to be put up soon, I'll make sure everyone knows. Maralia (talk) 17:58, 14 March 2015 (UTC)