Wikipedia talk:Upload/Archive/2010

Deprecate upload of free images to Wikipedia
Unless someone heavily objects here, I am going to redesign the template to deprecate local uploads. There is really no reason for folks uploading free images here...--Kozuch (talk) 16:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it be better to suggest that at VP/proposals ? —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 17:13, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


 * There are reasons for free images to be uploaded here rather than Commons, the big one being images that are public-domain in the US, but not in the country of origin. --Carnildo (talk) 00:11, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure there are cases that cant go to Commons. I mean to depracate all we can, own works etc.--Kozuch (talk) 00:17, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I support Kozuch's idea. Whatever can go to Commons, must go to Commons. Not may, not should - must. It will save everyone a lot of confusion. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * If that's the proposal, then it's a wikipedia-wide proposal, not one specific to this special page, so it should be discussed at a forum with wider audience. The Village Pump has a topic for this, I will explain my point of view in there MBelgrano (talk) 13:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we need to do a compromise - the means push the upload to Commons as much as possible while leaving a back-door for people that do not want or might not be able to go for Commons. There are links to commons on various Wikipedia upload pages now, but those links must be much bigger, so that every single uploader can not ignore them. I mean like taking up half the text with a "Commons ad" or something like that.--Kozuch (talk) 16:36, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Let the upload go to commons automatically if: In other words, if a user chooses settings which comply with the commons rules, automatically upload there without asking (Or leave a by-default checked checkbox for the decision). Manish Earth Talk • Stalk 14:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It follows our stricter commons rules
 * it is not conflicting with another filename


 * Uploads can't go "automatically" to commons before the user has actually uploaded the file and detailed under which licence or non-free content rationale is he doing so. It's only with such information that it can be settled if the image can go to Commons or not.
 * By the way, filename conflicts should be avoided always possible, in both ways: no filenames in commons should conflict with files here, nor files here should conflict with ones in Commons (unless it's the same file, uploaded locally for some technical purpose). Uploading a file here with the same name of one in Commons make it difficult to use the file at commons, which may be useful for this project as well (or, even worse, articles with a legitimate image may suddenly have a completely unrelated non-free file lacking a rationale). For example, consider what would happen if File:Seattle Center puppeteer.jpg and File:Metallica - Master of Puppets.jpg were uploaded under the same name "Master of puppets.jpg" MBelgrano (talk) 16:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

For now I just added the links from Commons to the first part of the page while leaving the original Wikipedia upload links intact. Hopefully this will persuade users to give more attention to Commons while there still is a backdoor for local upload.--Kozuch (talk) 13:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Soft redirect
Why not soft redirect this page to commons:Commons:Upload? Or even better, replace the upload file link in the toolbox with a commons upload link. It is always better to upload to commons. There is nothing to be gained by uploading here. Manish Earth Talk • Stalk 01:26, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree in general that Commons should be used whenever possible. Sometimes it's not possible. Kozuch's suggestion above is more practical. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:57, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Upload errors
A couple of times recently I have used the upload form to upload logos of organizations, the most recent being File:DAASLogo.png. I selected the logo link from the page, filled in the details and selected "Logo" from the license drop down list. When the upload has completed, I see that the image has in fact been uploaded twice (or at least two uploads appear in the file history) but, more importantly, the license information is missing and I had to add it manually. Any idea what's up with that? Browser: Firefox 3.6. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 16:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Automatic timestamp
Several file upload options, including "image from a website", automatically add a timestamp to the "date" field. However, the date field is supposed to contain the date of creation or publication of the image, not the date of upload (which is, in any case, preserved in the revision history); see e.g., Template:Information/doc.

To avoid errors such as the one (made by me), I'd like to suggest removing the automatic timestamp. Again: the date of upload is already available in the page history and the presence of the timestamp is likely to introduce errors (or cause editors to forget to specify the date of creation/publication). -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Recently added templates do not appear in their own category
Recently, a few new items are added to MediaWiki:Licenses so that they will show up in Special:Upload page. These items however, do not appear in the Licensing list of th Upload page unless the link "Other" is selected in this page.

For example, if an uploader choose:
 * A screenshot taken of a movie, TV program, computer game, web site, computer program, music video, or other such source

... item "- Screenshot of a Microsoft product" won't appear in his list. If the uploader choose
 * The logo of an organization, brand, product, public facility, or other item

... items "Computer icon" or "Logos with only simple typefaces, individual words or geometric shapes" won't appear in the list.

Is there any way to fix this? Of course there is, but how?

Fleet Command (talk) 23:04, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

File:ShelleyMetzBaumannHawk Logo.jpg
For some reason the image is not showing up on the following page for preview User:Wendyfables/ShelleyMetzBaumannHawk. This article is still in the process of being edited for Wikipedia. Thank you Wendyfables (talk) 13:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

✅. In the future, ask technical questions at Village pump (technical) MBelgrano (talk) 17:41, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

This page
I seem to remember being able to click on the residual red link of a deleted image and access both the upload form and the deletion log immediately, but the interface seems rather less convenient now. Any ideas how to address this? ―cobaltcigs 03:01, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I also enjoyed this function. I first created a red link, then clicked on it to make sure I uploaded to the correct name. 117Avenue (talk) 04:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I propose merging any salient information and links from this page into Special:Upload and reverting the appropriate interface setting(s) such that red-links (such as the example at right) point directly to Special:Upload. ―cobaltcigs 20:02, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I believe this page continues to confuse new users, see. Please, can we revisit my suggestions above? ―cobaltcigs 06:06, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello? ―cobaltcigs 08:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't like confirmed users
Currently, it wants everyone to be autoconfirmed. This should be fixed so that confirmed users can upload. Frozen Wind want to be chilly?  12:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)