Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Archive 12

Userboxen
Why is this page called Userboxen? Surely it should be Userboxes? --Gilderien (talk) 20:46, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Where is it called Userboxen? It looks like Userboxes to me. That said, if you do see someone use the term boxen, know that it is Unix humor.  Feezo   (send a signal  |  watch the sky )   02:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

What is this?
Sorry, but I saw this in many user pages. Each time I pressed it sent me in a different article. What is it?--79.103.2.10 (talk) 11:34, 2 September 2011 (UTC)


 * It is a random button that takes you to an article that lacks proper references, thus requires "YOUR" assistance if you can help! Moxy (talk) 02:20, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

How to add an image.
Simply add "id = " to your userbox code in order to add an image. (Minus the slash)

Maybe I'm blind but I could NOT find that information on this page. I spent several, unnecessary, minutes attempting to figure it out. Eventually I just looked at the code on this page. Maybe adding a category on how to add images to userboxes would be useful? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Druid126 (talk • contribs) 03:16, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Placing Userboxes BELOW infoboxes?
How would I go about doing this? They just end up to the left no matter where I place the code.Hg3300 (talk) 16:11, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

I was able to align the userboxes, but I can't get them to stay in line with the text. Either the text is first or the userboxes are first.Hg3300 (talk) 00:53, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Comment
These user boxes are surely the idea of Wikipedia creativity. I've only managed to create some so far, yet I have yet to upload them to the Wikipedia project page. Abhijay  Let's have a chat, my friend.  01:09, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Typo in article?
Hi, I'm a noob, so sorry if I'm being an idiot. In this article the Combining tables and the boxboxtop template section reads: ''“Yet another method of grouping boxes is done by combining Examples 2 and 4 together. Example 2 breaks interoperability...”''. Shouldn't this read “...combining Example 3 and 4 together.” and “Example 3 breaks interoperability...”? I'm using Firefox and can testify that Example 3 does render incorrectly (My yellow userboxes collapsible frame, when expanded, leaves the header of the My purple userboxes unmoved, obscuring the first userbox; the My purple userboxes collapsible frame works fine though). This agrees with the text next to Example 3, which reads: “Right now, this method should not be used because it only works properly in Internet Explorer (although works to a degree in other browsers), and makes the boxes inaccessible to users with ECMAScript (jScript/JavaScript) disabled!”. This seems to point to a typo in the Combining tables and the boxboxtop template section, where "Example 2" should actually read "Example 3". As I'm new, I didn't want to fix/alter this without checking first. Annoyamouse (talk) 23:09, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Image suitability
The licensing of the image is unclear: there are two license tags that seem to be contradicting each other. Is this image okay for use in userboxes, or not? --  Skysmurf   (Talk)  22:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This is an image from Commons. I would recommend making an inquiry at the Commons Help Desk. Best regards,  Cind.   amuse  (Cindy) 15:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * --  Skysmurf   (Talk)  17:54, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Category links within userbox text
What is the purpose of category links within userbox text? For example:  Thanks, -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)


 * That's the highly undesirable practice that users who transclude such a userbox are automagically added to that category. --  Skysmurf   (Talk)  22:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, it's even a step beyond that. The auto-categorization of users at least does something – good or bad, YMMV from case-to-case – whereas this just pipe-links a certain word of phrase to a category. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Padding on only one side?
If I want to edit the padding on the info section of the userbox, is there a way to do that? I'm looking for the analogue to the CSS padding-left property. I tried "info-p-left" and "info-pl". Perhaps I need to put the property in "info-op" for other parameters - if so, how would I do that? I appreciate any help! CaseyPenk (talk) 10:40, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Create our own userbox
Is there a way where we can create our own userbox? GARNERshiqian (talk) 12:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can create your own userbox templates. I've just updated the instructions.  I hope they are less confusing: Template:Userbox-2, Template:Userbox, or Template:Userbox-r.  I also updated the Main Project template WP:UBS with a How To section.Prapsnot 2.0 (talk) 09:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Userboxtop/bottom templates seem to screw up my user page
It seems when I try to use the (inserted userboxes)  templates to group my userboxes on the right of my user page, it takes the entire contents of my user page and forces it into the userbox grouping on the right and leaves the rest of the page as white space. Please help. --ColonelHenry (talk) 20:16, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

New template
It is very well not an userbox, but where do I place this template, so that other users can use it? Wikipedians one edit a time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Extra999 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Creating talk page parts
You know what would be nice? Something that displays *all* existing userboxen, with e.g. radiobuttons for those that take parametres (like the level of language skills) – of course, changing one of the radiobuttons would immediately be reflected in the box shown – and a checkbox for each (parametrised) box, plus a submit button, which will produce wiki markup that you can then paste into your user talk page. (Maybe add a checkbox for substitution, too.) Please don’t use ECMAscript that doesn’t work with old browsers though… ☺ mirabilos (talk) 20:34, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata Userboxes
Can we make a section with Wikidata related Userboxes. I created two userboxes for two task forces and would like to store them somewhere here, so one doesn't need to copy paste the whole code: --Tobias1984 (talk) 13:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

A new addition?
Another type of userbox format plenty of editors use is the scrolling userbox format. Should we add that to Userboxes? See my user page for the code. Happy edits Wikipedians.  W T 101  (Chat • Count) 12:26, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Got an idea for a user box
I think there should be a userbox saying "This user likes Yuzo Koshiro's music". Thanks. --DrDevilFX (talk) 10:27, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Then make one! Face-smile.svg That’s the beauty of userboxes, and wikis in general. —Frungi (talk) 06:58, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Userbox Google Translate?
Is there a userbox for Google Translate users? I don't know how to search for it here. sentausa (talk) 17:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you scroll down to #Gallery, there’s a search box to the side. And no, there’s no Google Translate userbox, at least not one that’s listed here; but there is a userbox for translators at Translation. I feel like it has to be said, though, that machine translation like Google Translate is notoriously unreliable. —Frungi (talk) 17:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Question About How To Promote New Userboxes....
I am in the process of created a few new Userboxes and I would like to know what is the best way to promote then for other Wikipedians to use? TYIA. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 05:17, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Userbox convention
I propose that we start up an userbox convention. It's an online convention where users can show off their custom userboxes. Not only will people can become more aware of the WikiProject, it'll strengthen the unity of editors, both member or non-member. If you have any question related to this convention, please respond on my talkpage. Secret Saturdays (talk to me) —Preceding undated comment added 05:18, 26 August 2009

Almost Naked Animals userbox
i made this userbox and i want to share it without messing up... Nintendo! IT&#39;S A CEREAL WOW! Nintendo! SUPER MARIO JUMPS! (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:42, 27 November 2012

Adding to the gallery
Can anybody add their custom boxes to the gallery? Nathan121212 (talk) 20:09, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup. Add them to Wikipedia talk:userboxes/new userboxes for community comment. If nobody comments, at least I assume nobody has any complaint and thus add them to the appropriate spot in the gallery. Eman 235 (talk) 05:36, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
 * aw dang, the links are case-sensitive. Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/New Userboxes Eman 235 (talk) 02:12, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Double-bordering (for lack of a better term)
 This is an existing userbox. I'd like to know if it's possible to put an outset blue border, an inset white border, then the content. I can't figure it out, even after an extensive search. TIA. &mdash; ATinySliver /  ATalkPage  03:34, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You can do it with the id-op and info-op parameters like so:


 * Hope that is what you are looking for. Happy editing! — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 15:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * 'tis, with one exception: can the border between id and info be removed? I tried and failed&mdash;again. Thank you! :D &mdash; ATinySliver /  ATalkPage  00:49, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey, whaddyaknow, I figured it out! xD &mdash; ATinySliver /  ATalkPage  09:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, i am new to SVG. I could help you if it was a raster, but you figured it out. ~cccp3, 12:45 (utc) 12 march 2014

Guidelines for moving userboxes from subpage of the user who created it, to template-space
As I could infer, the useboxes (after creation by some user on their subpage) need to be moved to template-space begining with 'User'. All the text put on Wikipedia is open sourced and hence the does not belong to the creator per se. So I think that there should be no issues with the move, although the notification to the creator of the userbox indeed should be provided. But some users like User:Purplebackpack89 finds it objectionable as in context to my move of User:Purplebackpack89/userboxes/Height to Template:User height as per his discussion on Template talk:User height. But apart from this particular incident, I think that the guidelines needs to be defined more concretely based on consensus. Opinions invited.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 18:23, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Due to the fact that there could be (an often are) multiple different style userboxes for a specific topic, userboxes should generally not be moved from userspace to template space. The community has spoken very clearly about this many times in the past and a little digging should produce enough of those conversations to be clear.  Happy hunting! — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (t • e • c) 18:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Userboxes
Warning! This Project page is watched by very few users, any questions or suggestions posted here may be left unanswered for long periods of time. Consider bringing up any suggestions at the Village pump for proposals, make sure that the proposal hasn't already been suggested at Wikipedia:Perennial proposals. Abaut　--shiroikabe 23:15, 8 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiroikabe (talk • contribs)

Political userboxes
Is there a specific criteria somewhere which outlines when a userbox just causes trouble? This userbox causes me some concern, as this user is apparently calling the majority of climate scientists left-wing liars. This gets a bit divisive and is overly hateful the way I see it. Dustin ( talk ) 15:46, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * See Userboxes. "...knows that.." is specifically listed. - jc37 17:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * There might or might not be several criteriA. Did you want ONE specific criteriON? Uporządnicki (talk) 19:44, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

How far is too far when it comes to a user specifically targeting a country? A user has been adding User:Heuh0/Userboxes/American terrorism to several userbox list pages, and I have to question to what extent these should be allowable (to be linked) in project (Wikipedia:) space. The reason is that this goes beyond science and social issues but goes so far as to make outstanding claims of terrorism on the part of the Unied States, and regardless of whether these should be allowable in general, again, should there be a limit to which userboxes may be linked in Wikipedia namespace? These kinds of userboxes can do nothing other than cause trouble the way I see it, but I would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this issue. Thank you. Dustin ( talk ) 00:48, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * At first glance, I also found this userbox to be somewhat offensive, but I recognize that I have a US-centric view. So the question is: Does the rest of the world see us (or U.S.) this way?  If so, what can be done to fix the perception?   Etamni &#124;  &#9993;  07:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

@Dustin, I personally also think the userbox about global warming is very silly in that it is denying what is accepted by most scientists worldwide and is sort of aiming to provoke, though I don't know if that warrants a removal as after all it is simply a different POV. As for the one on US terrorism, I do not see any problem with it. It specifically mentions the US as a "terrorist state" without making any mention of America as a nation, plus it does not use a provocative tone unlike the previous userbox. In fact, the word "terrorism" actually originates from the actions of a government. @Etamni, I think people from many countries around the world - especially in the Middle East - may view the US as a frequent perpetrator of state terrorism and I am inclined to agree. Just like Russia or China, the USA is a powerful neo-empire that constantly intervenes in other places, including starting affairs not only in poorer & politically unstable countries but in Europe also. This doesn't mean that the American people should be condemned for it (I dislike the US as a nation state, yet at the same time I know and like many Americans). Actually, if Americans condemned their government a lot more for ruining other countries militarily or economically then I'm sure many people around the world would be much happier. Anyway, as I stated earlier, I'm quite sure that Heuh0's userbox targets the US government and not its people. --Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 00:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Noted. I'm not sure that citizens in the US are aware of any state terrorism instigated in modern times by the US government, but many of the government's actions might seem to be terrorism by those who live in certain parts of the world.  Of course, sometimes actions of others are attributed to the US for propaganda reasons, and it is often difficult to determine who is responsible for what. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 01:06, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Just FYI, but while I have a problem with the anti-U.S. userbox, I care more about the userbox denying global warming and calling everyone who acknowledges it left-wing liars, so that should be priority number one with the U.S. one as priority 2. Dustin ( talk ) 01:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)


 * This could be listed at WP:MFD. Eman 235 / talk  20:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I think that both examples violate WP:CIVILITY and would support a deletion nomination on this basis. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 07:36, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Alternatively, the global warming userbox could be edited to simply state that the user does not believe in global warming; an edit for the other box would be more problematic, but certainly there must be a diplomatic way to express concern with US government actions, without trying to offend US citizens. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 07:41, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I think it only right to ping and, the creators of the userboxes in question.  Eman 235 / talk  18:23, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The latter of the two was already notified in an earlier post and apparently does not care to contribute to this discussion. Dustin  ( talk ) 20:02, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

I apologize for my absence, I have been away from wikipedia for a while. To weigh in, on a more general note, whether a party argues for the removal of user box because such usebrox has zero merit, or whether the user box offends said party is irrelevant. For example, I am personally offended when I see users proudly displaying "I am a neo-nazi" user boxes, but said person has every right to display such a user box, to oppose would be censorship and go against everything wikipedia stands for. In regards to merit, the example of climate change denial has already been brought up.

I am unsure if I am supposed to be giving reasons behind my user box, as detailed above, I shouldn't have to, but I will anyway, although hope to refrain in entering any long political discussion. To take the definition of terrorism from the US Department of Defense "The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, economic, religious, or ideological" - Numerous example can be given; Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Cuba, Republic of Congo, Chile, Western Sahara, Angola, East Timor, Salvador, El Salvador, Haiti, Libya, Panama, Indonesia, Iraq, Afghanistan and others; perpetrated either by US forces, US-backed militias or dictators deliberately placed in power by the United States. If you require more I would direct you to the following pages: On a more personal note I would recommend reading "On Western Terrorism" by Andre Vltchek and Noam Chomsky Doc H e u h (talk) 18:33, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * United States and state-sponsored terrorism
 * United States and state terrorism
 * List of authoritarian regimes supported by the United States
 * United States war crimes
 * Targeted killings/assassinations by the US government

Including categories
This guideline is explicit that "Userboxes should NOT automatically include categories." Yet for example template:Userbox includes a  variable which automatically adds the user to the specified category. I have seen other userboxes achieve the same effect using. Is the template flawed? Are other users ignoring the guideline, whether for good or bad? Or, does "automatically include categories" have a specific narrow meaning in this context? For example if the template should not automatically include userbox categories but may include user categories, that would make sense to me. Should the guideline read, "Userboxes should NOT automatically include the userbox categories."? I'd appreciate some clarification. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 09:30, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't know if this is a similar issue or not, but my user page is showing up in Category:Wikipedia-related user templates. This is possibly due to transcluding User iar, which uses non-standard markup. I put a noinclude tag around the category, but it doesn't appear to have done anything. There may be other userboxes with the same problem, based on a offhand glance of a few userboxes and categories. If someone more experienced in template coding could take a look at it, I'd appreciate it. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 21:51, 29 December 2015 (UTC)