Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Language/Programming/04

TODO
Here is what needs to be done on the page:

Series
 * red-links need to be created
 * Hunt down duplicates and re-direct/merge.
 * user Perl vs {{User:Quasar Jarosz/Userboxes/Perl}}
 * user prolog vs user pro
 * Make each language internally consistent
 * The entire set of userboxes for a language should use a consistent color scheme:
 * [Always:] The standard language color scheme
 * [Optionally:] A scheme for that language, that does not change between the levels, such as the {{User:ZabMilenko/Userboxes/php coder}} set for PHP
 * Individual Userboxes
 * Any image or abbreviation in the left "id box" should link to the article about the language, but the "-x" should not be linked
 * The right "info box" needs to link to, and only to a category or transclusion page
 * Make sure the userbox represents the skill level (and that the non-specified version makes no skill claims).

This Page
 * The markup should be cleaned:
 * If it is a straight-forward list, then use {{subst:User:LukeShu/Userboxlist2}} - this is a version of {{Template:Language table}} optimized to reduce server load, with the downside of having to "subst" it. What it actually does is configure {{User:LukeShu/usbl}} so you don't have to.
 * If it includes several lists (PHP), or list with individual items (Python), use {{User:LukeShu/Usbklist}} inside of usbktop/usbkbottom
 * Here is a list of templates LukeShu has made that are relevent:
 * {{Template:Language table}} (formerly User:Lukeshu/Userboxlist)
 * {{User:LukeShu/Userboxlist2}}
 * {{User:LukeShu/usbl}}
 * {{User:1LukeShu/Usbklist}}
 * I am working on this right now--it seems that userboxlist2 causes errors in a couple of them/changes the way they display, but most of them have been OK. LPC userbox is incompatible with userboxlist2 (as far as I can tell) as it is not in the template namespace.  I will continue working on this and will keep you posted. --Jp07 (talk) 23:25, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Other
 * Do the stuff in italics on the page, such as Ruby, Smalltalk, Tcl...
 * Fix Amazonien's mess.

Thank you ~ LukeShu (talk) 20:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC) OrangeDog (talk • edits) 18:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

'''Mesa? Modula?''' Why are Mesa and Modula not on this list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trudyjh (talk • contribs) 23:47, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Smalltalk

 * FIXME: MOVE VOTE: Please move Template:User SmallTalk to Template:User Smalltalk (lowercase "t") or Template:User st, based on a consensus

I vote for "User Smalltalk", to avoid future name clashes with anything that can be abbreviated "st". OrangeDog (talk • edits) 17:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

SQL
SQL ? Jaydlewis (talk) 05:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems SQL was dropped during the split with markup, as it did not clearly fit one or the other. I've added it, and will eventually go through and find any others that were dropped. ~ 10nitro (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

VHDL
VHDL?--UltraMagnus (talk) 09:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * What about it? If you want a userbox for it, feel free to create it (following the existing formats) and add it here. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 16:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The already is several in existence for it (check my userpage for one) unfortunately I am too unfamiliar with wikicode to add it here.--UltraMagnus (talk) 16:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup guide
When fixing these userboxes, remember the following: OrangeDog (talk • edits) 17:32, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Create new categories if they have been replaced by new language cats
 * Use to format the box
 * The id (js) and name (JavaScript) should link to the article, while the skill level (beginner) should link to the category (:Category:User js-1)
 * The ID (js) should link to the article, while name (JavaScript) should link to Category:User js, and the skill level (beginner) should link to Category:User js-1.
 * Use  to add the category Category:Computer language user templates
 * Transclude each template on its corresponding category page
 * Check that categories nest correctly
 * Search categories for duplicates and unnecessary alternatives and redirect to the canonical templates

unified programming/markup box?
Is there a box similar to Babel for programming and markup? It would seem there isn't. Perhaps it would be good to copy the babel template and modify it for use with programming languages. Just a suggestion. I suppose I could give it a shot if I have some time. Quillaja (talk) 13:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC) It seems I had a little time, and I made an example. It's at User:Quillaja/Userbox/Programming. It would look something like on the right. (10/29: removed because it was a bother.) It requires that the template for each language be located in the "User" path, like "User prog-2". With a quick test, it fails on the "User t|2" (template) userbox. I'd guess that's because of using the pipe in the name. Using | didn't solve the problem. Quillaja (talk) 14:12, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * What's wrong with Userboxtop and Userboxbottom? OrangeDog  (τ • ε) 19:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing; I just didn't know about them. I also liked the simplicity of the Babel template, but it appears Userboxtop, etc. are more flexible. Quillaja (talk) 23:32, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Other markup languages?
Userboxes/Programming documents a mechanism for specifying a userbox even if there is no specific template for it. Is there a similar mechanism for a markup language not listed in Userboxes/Programming? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz (talk) 15:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think that would be necessary; markup languages are considered a subset of programming languages in WP:UBS. --Gyrobo (talk) 16:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The wording of the userbox for, e.g., HTML, is different from the wording of the userbox for, e.g. Ada. That would appear to indicate that the distinction is recognized. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz (talk) 19:38, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * That's a good point. And if they were the same, they wouldn't be on two different pages. If you wanted to make a series of generic templates for "This user can write in XXX", I'd support it. --Gyrobo (talk) 19:52, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I might if nobody beats me to it, but right now I'm in the process of writing several articles and am finding that things I want to refer to don't exist, leaving me with the prospect of writing more articles than I had planned. I'm also still learning the culture and infrastructure of Wiki, and probably shouldn't develop any templates until I'm more familiar with things. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz (talk) 20:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Hope you like them, you can change around the text if you like. --Gyrobo (talk) 21:40, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Guidance on skill levels?
Shouldn't someone write some generic non-language specific guidance on what the different skill levels mean? This information would help users choose the "correct" skill level and could be placed in the Introduction. Stieltjes (talk) 20:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Mesa? Modula?
Why are there not userboxes for Mesa and Modula? Trudyjh (talk) 23:50, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

PL/I
The language is PL/I (roman numeral I), not PL/1. Peter Flass (talk) 00:48, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Limit exceeded
Towards the end of the Gallery, starting with 2.48 VHDL, the userboxes stop to show. That appears to be due to some limit exceeded: Post-expand include size: 2048000/2048000 bytes (which can be seen as an HTML comment near the end of the page)

I'm not (yet) sure how to remedie that. Obviously the page is quite large, and should probably split into many partial pages. --H.Marxen (talk) 20:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I have split programming languages into two subpages A-L and M-Z. I've also changed the navigation box template.  I hope I got it all right. --H.Marxen (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2013 (UTC)