Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Torrent Project/Archive 2

Offer to seed
If you'd like us (BitTorrent Inc) to seed/track this on our bandwidth please let me know on my work email (jpp at bittorrent.com) Trapper 04:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be great! However, I haven't even gotten the torrent to work with more than 1 person. I don't think you should host it until we're positive that torrent will work. Once again, thanks for the offer. Nominaladversary 15:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The torrent is working. Hooray. Nominaladversary 15:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! If this is working nicely now, can I suggest sending a "press release" to Signpost and Community Portal. If you can confirm & include the excellent news from the John Pettitt, that would be even better.  Thanks, Walkerma 17:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Give it a day or so to allow me to get it on my server before you tell the world Trapper 17:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll see if i can keep the uploading going. Thanks for help. It will be running full blast from 3pm to 8 pm on 7/11/06. 72.68.56.70 03:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Ow, sorry Paleorthid! Paleorthid has been seeding as well, sorry to take the spotlight. Much thanks to Paleorthid as well!!
 * Ok it's on a server with a 10mbit symmetrical connection (my personal co-lo box) and I'll add one of the bittorrent.com gigabit seeders shortly. Feel free to tell the world Trapper 05:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I shall tell the world. I'll do what Walkerma said. Nominaladversary 14:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Torrent is working great here, I have submitted it to Mininova here.--digital_m e (TalkˑContribs) 16:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Got it up at isohunt. Check main page. Nominaladversary 15:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 70+ seeds - looking good Trapper 18:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * FYI I've uploaded about 20GB on this torrent in the past 3 days - given that my server seem to be about 35% of most clients download that implies close to 60GB of traffic or about 350 downloads. Trapper 20:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * thats a lot of gigabytes...well, once we reach i guess 100 seeders you can pull most of them down...or something Nominaladversary 00:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * out of interest SOS Children have had about 7500 downloads so far --BozMo talk 15:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

What is on the CD?
I can't seem to find what is on the cd. The only information is an image of a cd with 'wikipedia 1.0', but to the best of my knowledge that's not quite finished yet. S Sepp 18:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, the torrent is of the CD on the children's SOS website. Of course there will be trouble of keeping up with the file, but torrents are easy to make. Here is a link. 72.76.173.193 20:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * http://fixedreference.org/2006-Wikipedia-CD-Selection/ - what it contains. In total the CD has 2011 articles, more than 8000 images and over 3.5 million

Logo
Should we have a logo to display in our 'user talk page'? Just a thought, you know, something that shows a picture of a computer getting the wikipedia cd really fast from the BitTorrent logo. Something of that nature. Nominaladversary 02:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Watch out for copyright issues on images you use, you don't want BitTorrent suing you (unlikely, but let's be safe here). Walkerma 15:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I only run the engineering end of BitTorrent (VP Engineering) so I can't talk specifics of logo use however but if you stick to the guidelines on the tradmark use page on bittorrent.com you'll be fine Trapper 18:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Does anyone want to make a logo? I'm not very good at drawing on the computer.... Nominaladversary 14:52, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Peer IP of value
I added my IP to my listing under our project Member List. I am hoping this will enable others to set my IP as a peer known to them, track when I am seeding or offline. Maybe Trapper or Seth or ? can reply if this is an accurate understanding of what setting a peer IP does? -- Paleorthid 15:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Taking it off. I don't think it means what I think it means. -- Paleorthid 19:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Expand to take advantage of BT?
I am currently seeding the CD full time and think it's a great project. I'll also try to add a the torrent to my home-brew server. However, I have to ask: BitTorrent, in my experience is best suited for large files, and makes large files much more feasable to use. I'm wondering if we should consider making a DVD version downladable or even one designed to use an arbitrary abount of space (in the GB range.) I'm considering that it could be valuable for people to be able to download these files for machines which are not ordinarily online. For example, people who travel often with their laptops may have spotty or even rare internet access but would be able to torrent the large file and store it locally. Perhaps this is already being considered or implemented and I missed it, or perhaps we should consider it now. Any comments? 48v 21:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I would be interested in having parts of Wikipedia for offline use. However, I don't want the article database dump because it is too big, too complicated (XML, MySQL), and I don't want or need obscure articles about Jar Jar for example.


 * In terms of size, I think that 1-2 Gig is a pretty feasable range for a bit torrent. I think the bigger problem is how to take that 'dump' of all the information and make it user-friendly. I think that getting wikipedia offline is more a question of putting a UI over the big xml dump. 48v 18:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * This Wikipedia CD "selected articles" is a good approach. I hope there will be variations for general use (i.e. not just for school use) with some sort of selection criteria by editors. These could also be packaged by category (astronomy, history, and even Star Wars for the Jar Jar article, etc.)


 * It might also be useful (but maybe not feasible?) to have update packages that only have the changes (like a patch) as new articles are added or revised over the years to come.


 * Anything is possible, we just have to know what direction we want to go in, and set our goals to that, making a torrent is very easy. The only problem is, we can't make a torrent without the Wikipedia DVD. But if there ever is a Wikipedia DVD, we'll get started on it right away.Nominaladversary 14:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps my question would be better directed to people organizing the content rather than just the bit torrent team. I'm really trying to bring up the idea of making a user friendly offline version which seems different from the goal here, which is distributing previously developed material. I'll ask there in the near future. Thanks for the input. 48v 18:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Tracker Down ?
I'm getting timeouts trying to talk to the tracker - is it down? Trapper 18:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm getting the same thing. 48v 19:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Tracker status (using μTorrent) has been showing as "offline (timed out)" since Friday. -- Paleorthid 19:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah the tracker is down, I have no idea why though, I got it off of mininova. They're still displaying the tracker up...hm. I hope its just temporary, if the problem exists for longer than a week, we'll have to change the torrent.Nominaladversary 13:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Phogotorrents doesn't say anything about http://tracker.phogotorrents.com:2006/announce. Nominaladversary 14:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Ditto for not working, but at least DHT is working fine (4 seeds, 6 leechs) IMacWin95 16:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Did someone add a tracker? At the isoHunt site it shows another tracker, and it up. I think everyone should download that torrent. I'll update.Nominaladversary 17:48, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I added more trackers, its just that no one is downloading. Trackers are up. Nominaladversary 19:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Trackers for wpcd.zip.torrent

 * http://tracker.phogotorrents.com:2006/announce (timed out - offline)
 * http://www.phogotorrents.com:2710/xiiyycmbcafumv0lpw22jk8bhz3dufsr/announce (working, not clear to me if registration is required)
 * http://www.bitthailand.com/ (registration required)
 * http://tpb.tracker.prq.to/announce (working)

Someone please confirm the pirate bay (tpb.tracker.prq.to) tracker is working for them. -- 67.185.75.97 05:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This is so wierd, I was just using http://tracker.phogotorrents.com:2006/announce and http://www.bitthailand.com/ and i was able to connect to 2 peers and there was also another seeder. There is also another torrent i think on this page...For pirate bay no news, sorry. Nominaladversary 13:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)