Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor/Help

We need the sandbox to have VE
The sandbox needs to accurately represent article space for it to fulfill its raison d'être. How long until this is online? Is it worth creating an article-space sandbox? As a stopgap, I updated the help page to link to a sandbox in my user space, which seems to work for VE. VQuakr (talk) 05:36, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * We're not going to have the VE in the Wikipedia space like that for quite some time, I think :(. I'm trying to think of what the best way forward would be. Article-space sandboxes are workable, but I worry we'd ire the new page patrollers :). Any other ideas? Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Besides a single sandbox in user space or in article space, the only other thing I can think of is a "smart" link that creates a user sandbox in the individual's user space when they click a "sandbox" link. Seems a little overcomplicated though. VQuakr (talk) 03:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I came across your sandbox while anti-vandal patrolling. I think there is a magic word to do what you would like. I just can't think of it off the top of my head. (Please ping me with the Notifications feature if you answer my comment. I don't think that I am going to put this page on my watchlist)-- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  03:37, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't this process be halted for now?
My understanding is that VE is currently opt-in on the English Wikipedia and will remain so for the foreseeable future; that means that help files should default to wikimarkup and avoid referencing the Visual Editor, because that reflects what new users are going to see. --Aquillion (talk) 22:50, 25 October 2013 (UTC)