Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Academic Journals/Lists of pages

Populating lists of pages
(This section was moved from User talk:DePiep.)

As in, e.g., WikiProject Medicine/Lists of pages/Articles. You said it's done manually. Like, with pencil and paper? :o) Could you please elaborate? I've started this: WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Lists_of_pages. Thanks! Fgnievinski (talk) 05:15, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I've used this HTML:  and I could also have used the API:  but in any case, there's a limit of 500 counts, so it takes many continued pages to get the full listing. Then there was some text editing, for which I used vim. Fgnievinski (talk) 05:21, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes I write those pages on a paper, and then add them to the page ;-). I meant to say: the list is created by manual actions, like: 0. Start WP:AWB 1. list the "Categories:Medicine articles by quality", 2. write then in a text-file with  added, 3. then turn these talkpages into article pages, 4. Save those in a different file, 5. Then edit the target list page by adding those two external lists.
 * This could be done by a bot, but I have not found time to set that up and ask a bot-author.
 * You already got this, I see.
 * The 500 limit is on AWB-script not WP:AWB, right? I installed and used WP:AWB (an exe file that runs separate from this wiki on your computer). Last time, it did not have a 500 linmit. Good tro know: to compile lists, you don't need edit permission for AWB. You do need permission to edit using AWB (see the documentation pages). Will take a look at your new page. -DePiep (talk) 07:50, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have created Recent changes in Academic Journals, see your central page WikiProject Academic Journals/Lists of pages. It's a handcrafted template (there is no meta-template for this yet). If you have any questions, tell me. -DePiep (talk) 09:55, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You might consider this setup for the various lists:
 * 1. All articles + their talkpage (=content)
 * 2. All non-articles + their talkpage (=support/help/template/...)
 * Note: My impression is that the maximum number of pages in one list page is ~30,000 (up to 1MB page size). Beyond that, the page will function but editing/updating it is very very slow (and possibly the simple RC clicking response too). For this reason, WP:Medicine (with 30000 articles) was split up. Your WP:AJ has 14,000 pages, so even doubling them (talk+subject) could be in one page (28,000 P). Limiting to Articles+talk only would reduce that number of course. -DePiep (talk) 10:04, 15 July 2015 (UTC) -DePiep (talk) 10:07, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for taking the time to share your tips! I might try AWB if fellow editors at WPJournals find the listing useful. I'll move this using discussion over to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Academic Journals/Lists of pages. Thanks once again. Fgnievinski (talk) 16:28, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

unless you oppose I will change the set as proposed:
 * 1. Articles + their talks
 * 2. Non-articles + their talks

IMO the majority of editors who do follow edits, are interested in content edits. Only specialised editors (liek you or me) want to follow non-article subject edits (like templates, WP:AJ pages, etc).

Also, adding the talkpages 1:1 makes sense because when one is interested in edits of an article, why then not look at the preliminary/posterior talks about it? -DePiep (talk) 18:35, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ See current version. btw, what a Great project WP:AJ is! Keep it up. Any remarks? -DePiep (talk) 22:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Makes total sense! I was going to grep my text files to do that, but I noticed it's already up -- thanks once again! Fgnievinski (talk) 22:35, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * OK then! Now let's spreed the message of asap. I'd like to see it used by more regular WP:AJ editors. From here, getting more editors involved is good (regular list updates is another issue ;-) ). -DePiep (talk) 22:50, 15 July 2015 (UTC)