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Article for Deletion
Please see Articles for deletion/List of international adoption scandals. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 10:03, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

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I see that this WikiProject Adoption, fostering, orphan care and displacement is listed as a related project for some articles on IQ testing. I have posted a bibliography of  Intelligence Citations for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in those issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research and to suggest new sources to me by comments on that page. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 21:34, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Reorganized the Category:Orphanages
The category was getting a bit bulky, so for better org I created Category:Orphanages in Canada, Category:Orphanages in India, etc., and tied each of those into the "Category:Society of XYZ" cats for their country/region. Also created Category:Founders of orphanages. Hope some folks find this helpful. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:42, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

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Foster care
We have two newbies who have taken over the Foster care article in perfectly good faith, but, I believe their organization is incorrect. They are not used to high level articles/concepts, but articles, like places, where everything is lumped together. I have not been able to convince either of them. The article is seen by 500 or more people per day. This really needs some experienced editors. One isn't enough! Student7 (talk) 01:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you give a specific example? The article does look very bad.Tobit2 (talk)
 * See Talk:Foster care page. Student7 (talk) 14:00, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Rf feedback
Hi--I'm a new user Rfcso I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly. I just added an article on the Fostering Connections to Success and Increasing Adoptions Act of 2008; would love some feedback. Janedubs (talk) 15:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

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AFD
Tristan Dowse article up for deletion here. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 00:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

New article - Book about adoption by Dan Savage
New article - Book about adoption by Dan Savage. Feedback, and suggestions for additional research and more secondary sources - would be appreciated, at the article's talk page. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
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New article - The Kid (musical)
New article, The Kid (musical). Feedback and suggestions for additional secondary sources would be appreciated, at the article's talk page. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 07:11, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The Kid (musical)

Child Trafficking
I vote to include this. I know someone who was adopted because one of her relatives sold her. There is also the Guatemala scandal which was a huge child trafficking incident that has shaped much of US and World attitudes towards adoption and laws towards adoption. Child trafficking has also been a huge problem in International adoptions. The first adoptions done internationally by Holt were shown to have child trafficking issues involved, and in fact, currently China has closed its doors several times because of these problems to the point that NPR has made news reports on it. So I'd vote for Child trafficking to be added, not because it's related, but it is definitely within the scope of this project.--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 14:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Definitely. If only we could agree on a name and a logo we could start including all the relevent articles! Fainites barley scribs 15:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Child trafficking fits under the "Displacement," part of the name we came to a consensus on above.Tobit2 (talk) 15:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

adopting the rights of the child TDH Foundation has plenty linking trafficking for adoption. --Ninnep (talk) 17:05, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I was going to edit the stub for Child Laundering, which can be described as using money, deceit, or force to obtain young children, who are then given separate identities to create orphans ready to be adopted. These children are then given new paperwork to legitimize these new orphans, and are taken overseas to wealthy Western countries. I was wondering if anyone had any comments or suggestions on undertaking this? ChloeCBlaskiewicz (talk) 01:47, 6 March 2012 (UTC)ChloeCBlaskiewicz

Street children in India
I am currently working on creating an article titled Street children in India. Currently, a page about street children exists, but it only contains general information about street children around the world. Street children comprise a quite large subsection of the Indian population (estimates are around 100,000) that is excluded from the mainstream social governmental structures of India. They are one of the most disadvantaged groups in the population because not only do they face extreme poverty, but they also lack strong familial ties that provide emotional support. Many studies have also found that street children in India are subject to much abuse, both by common citizens and police. Understanding why children in India become street children and what hardships they face is important for gaining support to help them and for informing approaches to improve their condition.

Not only do I feel that an article focusing specifically on street children in India is an important contribution to this WikiProject, but I also believe that more articles need to be written focusing on street children in other geographic locations. By providing accurate information about the children in different areas, light is shed on the conditions of some of the most displaced and disadvantaged members of societies.

I would love feedback and suggestions from anyone who is willing to read my article draft when I post it in my Sandbox. (I’ll add the link here when it is completed). KiaraDouds (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Child Begging
Hello all! I am currently working on an entry on the issue of Child Begging, an important issue that Wikipedia lacks extensive research on. Because many of the children involved in begging are victims of human trafficking the article may possibly supplement the current entry on Child Trafficking. The current page on Begging is notably lacking and does not at all discuss begging facilitated by coercion, so I do not think that linking my entry with this pre-existing one would properly promote the topic. The entry I wish to create will emphasize the existence of child begging throughout a number of countries and shed light on the practice as a form of forced labor. Many of the children that are forced into begging have been orphaned or abducted, which is why this entry is a necessary contribution to a Wikiproject devoted to issues regarding child abandonment and its implications. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions I would love to hear from you, considering this is my first Wikipedia entry and I have much to learn.Avo92 (talk) 22:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to edit the Child Laundering stub
I am a student at Rice University studying Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities. I am planning to editing and expanding the stub for Child Laundering. It is not currently listed as a stub under WP:AFOD but I am proposing that it be considered for inclusion. Child Laundering could be best described as using money, deceit, or force to obtain young children, and forging new documents to legitimize these "orphans", and are taken overseas to wealthy Western countries. Due to the thousands of dollars in fees that prospective adoptive parents are willing to pay, the profits are enough for those who are willing to take advantage of the system. This is a major issue within the system of intercountry adoptions and is a subject that should be expanded upon. If any users of this Wikiproject have any ideas or opinions about how I might best undertake editing this stub and contribute to the WikiProject Adoption, fostering, orphan care and displacement, I would appreciate the help and advice.

ChloeCBlaskiewicz (talk) 01:19, 10 March 2012 (UTC)ChloeCBlaskiewicz

Guatemala
I've just rewritten Adoption in Guatemala from scratch - not only was it entirely outdated (it was from 2007, before major legal changes), but it was remarkably one-sided - it talked about the Hague Convention as "these so called reforms", entirely failed to mention the endemic corruption and abuse of process, etc etc etc.

This isn't really my field, though, and it's not much of a rewrite - would someone with more expertise care to take a look at it? Thanks, Shimgray &#124; talk &#124; 20:45, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Editing Suggestions to the "Child Laundering Page"
Okay......I'm an dufus and apparently I thought that I was supposed to edit your actual page. Needless to say that I was wrong, but that still meant less work for you!

Nevertheless, here were some general suggestions that I did notice while running through your page
 * the body of your page needs restructuring gramatically to fit Wiki standards. Nothing too drastic, but something along the lines of what I did for those few sections
 * Your references and footnotes need fixing as well. The footnotes will automatically be listed in the order you cite the article, and the reference list can just be put in bullet-style format. Again, just follow the generous example I mistakenly provided.
 * In-text links could be increased. I'm just referring to the blue links that will redirect you to another page when clicked upon. You may want to add more on the "see also" section as well.
 * You may want to join other WikiProjects as well. WikiProject adoption is good, but certainly there are others as well. Maybe WikiProject Children? Abuse? Crime/Criminal Activity?

Hopefully these suggestions get the thoughts flowing. As you can see, this is essentially what I left in your talk page on the article site itself. Hopefully, this larger community can see these suggestions and help you out.

J hernan26 (talk) 06:27, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Foster Care Independence Act
Hi all, I have updated the Foster Care Independence Act page. I worked on the project as part of the Wikimedia project through an MPA policy analysis class. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks, Jrose88 (talk) 17:24, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Street Children in Latin America
I am currently a student at Rice University pursuing a minor in Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities (PJHC). One of the minor's projects is to improve the quality of Wikipedia articles on issues related to social inequality. I have chosen to improve the Street Child article by creating a related article about "Street Children in Latin America." Because the Street Child article is related to this WikiProject, I thought I would post on this page to invite you all to read and possibly contribute to my page.

Street children in Latin America experience many of the issues that the Street Child article discusses. Most researchers have grouped street children in Latin America into two categories: home-based street children and street-based street children. The former refers to children that spend their days on the streets but have physical homes and families to return to--but are forced to search for work on the streets because of poverty. The latter refers to children without physical homes, children who work, sleep, eat, and play on the streets. Although it is difficult to determine just how many street children currently exist in Latin America, some sources such as UNICEF estimate that as many as 45% of children in Latin America are, will be, or have been street children at some point (home-based or street-based). These numbers are debatable, but the underlying issue of street children remains. In relation to this WikiProject, street-based street children are often orphans and/or abandoned, while both street-based and home-based street children are displaced from their homes.

Once I'm done with the article, I'll post a link to it. Meanwhile, if anyone has any suggestions for sources or is interested in collaborating with me on the article, please let me know.

Avw1 (talk) 17:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Forced adoption in the UK
There is currently a proposed deletion and an NPOV discussion about this newly-created article. Paul B (talk) 19:08, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Nowhere for info about Children's homes ?
I was trying to fix a link in a stub about a small children's home (which originally had a link to Children's Home, a historic building in Massachusetts). I eventually changed the link to Children's home which redirects to Orphanage, but it doesn't seem to cover the topic of "looked after children" (UK terminology: that's a redirect to the relevant legislation). Group home goes some of the way... I edited it a little to generalise it to include children, not sure whether that was wise. I'm not an expert in the topic, and any info will be very country/culture-specific, but I'm noting it here to draw to the attention of subject experts. Over to you. (The original article of concern may no longer exist: I reluctantly PRODded it as not notable, just one home for 8 children with no particularly interesting history.) Pam  D  10:30, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl FAC
Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl is currently undergoing a Featured Article Candidate review at Featured article candidates/Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl/archive1. I would invite anyone interested in going by, looking at the article, and if inclined, adding your comments. Regards. GregJackP  Boomer!   19:49, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Renominate Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl FAC
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Child and Family Services Review
Why is the Child and Family Services Review page marked as low-importance? It should be marked higher. The page is US-specific, but the CFSR process affects every child welfare system in every US state. I think the low rating is keeping editors from adding to the page, when it needs to be fleshed out. Only a few people have edited it so far, and it needs work. Waltzedout (talk) 23:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

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Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home
Hi. I've added Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home to the project. This is a former Mother & Baby Home in Ireland (closed in 1961) that received attention last where when a possible mass grave was discovered on the site and records concerning the deaths of 796 children were revealed. It has re-entered the news last week after it emerged that in 2012, the responsible authority had raised concerns about the illegal trafficking for adoption of up to 1,0000 children from the home to the United States. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:57, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Main adoption article
I don't know how active this project is any more, but active watchers/participants might want to take a look at the main adoption article - an editor is requesting lots of citations/references for the potential negative effects of adoption on adopted people. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:49, 28 August 2018 (UTC)