Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Alberta/Archive 1

Creation
I created this page but I am new at this - is anyone out there interested? 18:05, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm in, strictly dedicated to improving the Calgary-related articles. -b 21:37, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation
Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Tito xd (?!? - help us) 18:30, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The obvious choices are Alberta (a class), Edmonton (a class), Calgary (a class), Ralph Klein (b class), etc.. I think that there are lots of smaller aticles that are quite good too.  By the way I'm going to start ancouncing any AB-related articles I am involved with on this talk page, and encourage others too as well.  This way we can all be more aware of what other people are up to. Kevlar67 09:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, but thanks! These help us identify qualitiy articles as we push to Wikipedia 1.0. Do you have any more recommendations for us? Tito xd (?!? - help us) 05:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

AB-related articles I have created or heavily modified recently
Here are a list of my recent ones that everyone should be encouraged to add to if they know more: finally Anyone else have anything to share? Kevlar67 10:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * created Kyle Chipchura (hockey player)
 * created Canadian Ukrainian (language dialect)
 * added CAN/AB section to Unincorporated (legal/geographic term)
 * created or modified roughneck, oiler, motorman, and driller (oil) (Oilpatch occupations)
 * created Iwan Pylypow, Block Settlement, Edna-Star, Alberta and Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village; and completely rewrote Ukrainian Canadian (Ukrainian Canadian history)
 * created/heavily added to Westlock, Alberta and Westlock County, Alberta which I believe are now the standards against which all Alberta small-town and rural county articles should be judged.
 * merged oilpatch and Canadian Oil Patch (industry background)


 * My main Alberta contributions have been Lethbridge-related. I drastically expanded the Lethbridge article, created its sub articles (and most related articles) and created/edited most of the articles in southern Alberta. --Kmsiever 19:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Municipality template
I have created a new templete for municipality infoboxes in Alberta. It is bases on the BC infobox and so I hope it makes things more consistent. I think it is quite a bit cleaner and looks better than the old one. Anybody want to help implement it? Alberta municipality infobox --Arch26 23:59, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've added Superimpose to this template (overlays a dot on the map image). This allows using generic (shared) map images for locations. - Qyd(talk)05:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Canadian city naming convention
To try to get a good consensus, I am posting at all Canadian regional wikiprojects: Wikipedia talk:Canadian wikipedians' notice board. Thanks! -- Usgnus 21:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Alberta stub template and category

 * Provincial Stub Proposals - Should templates and stubs be created for Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland & Labrador? (See related SFD discussion regarding N.B., PEI, and Manitoba (plus the territories)). Agent 86 02:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

wikiproject banner
I've added WikiProject Canada to a few articles and lists that are related to the project, and that would need expansion. Another ideea is to designate Collaborations of the month, for artiles that would benefit from some focused attention. Qyd(talk)22:30, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Counties
I started to add the missing articles about counties and municipal districts (the red links from Alberta). The articles are little more than stubs now, with just demographic data and community lists. They could use some help with economy, geography, attractions. - Qyd 06:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Banff National Park - peer review request
I have been working to get this article to featured status, with help from two other editors. Until recently the article's talk page was empty, so I don't think this article has had the scrutiny needed. I've posted a peer review request, and would greatly appreciate feedback, comments, or suggestions. Thanks. -- Aude ( talk   contribs ) 02:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

New Category
I just created Category:Festivals in Alberta and started to add articles. Add more if you know of any. Kevlar67 16:14, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Moving Calgary and Edmonton articles
It has been proposed that Calgary, Alberta be moved to Calgary and that Edmonton, Alberta be moved to Edmonton, in similar fashion to articles such as Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec City, etc. The discussion is at Talk:Calgary, Alberta and Talk:Edmonton, Alberta respectively. Skeezix1000 13:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Almost forgot. Similar discussion at Lethbridge, Alberta.  Skeezix1000 13:10, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Calgary has been moved. Discussion ongoing at Talk:Edmonton, Alberta and Talk:Lethbridge, Alberta.  Skeezix1000 11:50, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Did the Talk page for Calgary not get moved? --Kmsiever 05:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Banff National Park - Featured article candidate
Banff National Park is now a featured article candidate. You can leave comments at Featured article candidates/Banff National Park. --Qyd 00:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Today, Banff National Park is main page featured article. Congratulations Aude and other editors. --Qyd 05:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

History: Proposed Merge
Please, go look at History of Alberta. It is currently pathetic. It needs help. It needs much more detail. Curently, however, it is dwarfed in sized by the history sections on Edmonton and Calgary pages, and Lethbridge now seems to have it's own seperate history page !!! I propose narrowing the scope of those articles and transferring some of the material (for example, about early exploration, etc.) to History of Alberta, as well as taking any material from the history section of Alberta and History of Canada we feel would help. Any thoughts? Kevlar67 00:16, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Oppose: The History of Alberta article can be expanded without the need to merge the other articles/sections. Nearly all significantly-sized city articles have their own history subarticles. --Kmsiever 02:35, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Partial Support, lots of information can be copied from the city history pages (I would oppose moving or merging). Links to the individiual pages can also be provided in a "see also" section. --Qyd 02:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Proposal for Template
Scotland is a sub-national entity, but it still has a great template listing Scotland-related topics. see:

there are plenty of other good ones just like it, see:

I think that is MUCH more important that the current Alberta template which is just an over-grown list of countries and census districts (no offense) Any support? Maybe I'll make a draft one in my soapbox to show off!! Kevlar67 23:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

VERY rough first draft
Topics on Alberta  For your consideration. Kevlar67 00:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: Alberta is used exclusivly for communities, and was created together with similar templates for all provinces (consider c0nsistency across provinces). The navbox you propose should not replace Alberta, but should be applied to articles of general interest regarding Alberta (like the ones listed in the template itself). --Qyd 14:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I quite agree Alberta still has a place, but a Alberta topics box would fill another need. Sorry if I sounded too dismisive of the good old template.Kevlar67 23:09, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Suggestions
Here are some links that you might consider:
 * First Nations in Alberta for First Nations
 * List of Alberta general elections for Elections in Alberta, possibly extra link to last elections (Alberta general election, 2004)
 * Executive Council of Alberta for Cabinet (currently Government of Alberta redirects there, that may be changed to include all government branches)
 * List of communities in Alberta for Communities in Alberta/Communities
 * List of Alberta Indian Reserves for Indian Reserves, add Métis in Alberta (either here or at history)
 * add List of Alberta Municipal Districts to communities types
 * Mountains of Alberta instead of Mountains in Alberta
 * List of Alberta provincial parks instead of/for Category:Parks in Alberta
 * Lakes of Alberta and List of Alberta rivers instead of more in Geography
 * Category:Companies based in Alberta instead of Category:Companies of Alberta
 * ATB Financial instead of ATB Finacial (typo), eventualy masked as Alberta Treasury Branches
 * add List of airports in Alberta to Economy
 * Alberta (song) for Alberta anthem

Generally, links to categories should be replaced with summary lists in navigation templates (links to articles in the main namespace are preferable) Good initiative. --Qyd 14:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

PS: the noinclude Category:Alberta navigational boxes should probably be replaced with Category:Canadian navigational boxes, unless there are enough Alberta navboxes to justify a separate category. --Qyd 14:50, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Love all those suggestions, but I'm a little hazy as to your proposed rules on lists vs. categories, and the reasoning behind them. Other than that, I agree fully.  Kevlar67 23:12, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Let's do this
I see the template project has been abandoned, let's try to resuscitat it. How would this work?

The template shortcuts (buttons) will only be functional once the template is put in place. --Qyd 13:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * It looks fine to me; I have no problems with it. --Kmsiever 15:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Created at Topics on Alberta --Qyd 16:56, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Template cat
I found out we actually do have a lot of Alberta nav-box templates. see:
 * Template:AB-FedRep
 * Template:ABPremiers
 * Template:Alberta Progressive Conservative leadership 2006
 * Template:Alberta politics
 * Template:First Nations in Alberta
 * Template:Treaty 6 First Nations in Alberta
 * Template:Treaty 7 First Nations in Alberta
 * Template:Treaty 8 First Nations in Alberta
 * Template:Calgary AM
 * Template:Calgary FM
 * Template:Edmonton AM
 * Template:Edmonton FM
 * Template:AJHL
 * Template:Calgary TV
 * Template:Edmonton TV
 * Template:Lethbridge TV
 * Template:Lloydminster TV
 * Template:Red Deer TV
 * Template:Medicine Hat TV
 * Template:AB Expressways

That's quite a few, IMO. Kevlar67 12:36, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Up untill two months ago, all navboxes were in one category, the sorting has only recently started; further sorting would be a good thing, go for it. Here's another one Alberta rivers and lakes. --Qyd 18:05, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I took the hint about Alberta having too large a list of counties/municipal districts, and replaced those with links to this lists: Towns of Alberta, Villages of Alberta and Hamlets of Alberta; these could fit into the proposed Topics on Alberta as well. Cheers. --Qyd 18:05, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 18:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Wild Rose
We had the wrong link on the main Alberta page, so I created a stub for the right species of wild rose, Rosa acicularis and linked to it. I think this symbol is an important part of Alberta culture, and I think we need to expand this article. Kevlar67 05:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion
Presently, there are three entries in the Churches in Edmonton category Category:Churches in Edmonton. Recently, they were placed into Articles for deletion/Bayside Community Church a mass deletion attempt of a number of Churches during this Advent season. They include:


 * First Presbyterian Church (Edmonton), a congregation since 1881, (125 Anniversary just celebrated in November) when Fort Edmonton was still in the Northwest Territories, and
 * St. John's Cathedral, Edmonton, and
 * City Centre Church.

Are there reasons why any of the Buildings and structures in Edmonton category Category:Buildings and structures in Edmonton should remain? Or do we suggest that the Museums in Edmonton category Category:Museums in Edmonton be purged as well?

I'm suggesting that if you don't want to see these articles purged, vote (and I hope you enter KEEP) now!!

BTW, if there's more to add to First PC, go for it!!

Bacl-presby 16:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Bacl-presby 16:03, 22 December 2006 (UTC) goodbye, City Centre Church Sorry Bacl-presby 18:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Well, the mass Afd was pulled, BUT....someone in Prague has suggested that FPC and City Centre Churches are still nn. Agree or disagree?
 * Articles for deletion results

Regions
Would it be beneficial to have an article (or perhaps separate articles) for the different regions of Alberta (Central, North, South, Calgary, Edmonton, Rockies)? I've noticed several articles referring to some or all of these regions. --Kmsiever 17:45, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, there probably should be articles on areas listed in List of regions of Canada, if not as sepatate pages, at least as a "Regions" section in Geography of Alberta. Calgary Region and Edmonton Capital Region already do the job. --Qyd 16:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I hadn't see the Canada page before. I guess that just solidifies it, and since Calgary and Edmonton already have one each (although they're pretty empty beyond population data), perhaps the others should have their own as well. I think a consistent look should be used for each. I can start on a Southern Alberta article. I live here and can probably do a better job on that one than on the others. --Kmsiever 18:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Excellent work on Southern Alberta that would be a good example to follow for Northern and Central Alberta. --Qyd 20:41, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I based most of it on the Calgary and Edmonton regions (I also used Okanagan as a resource). The Alberta First website sure came in handy; it will be a good resource for the other regions. --Kmsiever 01:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Provincial templates update
Should the provincial templates be updated with the standard Navbox generic layout? Please comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada. --Qyd 23:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Peer review request
A peer review request has been placed for Lethbridge. --Qyd 05:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

History and Historic Sites
I've been working hard to fill up History of Alberta, please help. Also I created a new cat, Category:Provincial historic sites of Alberta, help populate. And can any one make a map out of this for the main article of that cat? Kevlar67 03:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Started a map here: List of provincial historic sites of Alberta/Map. --Qyd 04:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

"Membership"
Hey, WikiProject Alberta!

I'm relatively new to the Wikipedia community, but I've already been making some contributions to the effort. I've created three articles (1, 2, 3) regarding the hamlet of Fort McMurray, Alberta, and was wondering if I could get in on this WikiProject Alberta thing.

What's involved with committal to the project? How does it all work? Please forgive my newbishness,

Brennan Conroy, proud resident of Fort McMurray.

Realdeal 55 22:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The sole purpose of the project is, as stated on the project page, to improve articles pertaining Alberta. This page can also be used for discussing issues related to the articles of interest, as well as establishing guidelines. Anyone is most welcome to participate, in pure wikipedia spirit. --Qyd 23:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Welfare in Alberta
I was thinking why don't we have a section in Alberta regarding the free handouts given by the government to people who don't want to work? --Parker007 23:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not even the article Quebec (where this handouts are a much larger part of the budget) has a section on that. A mention about welfare (or lack thereof) would be more appropriate in Economy of Alberta. --Qyd 03:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Or on welfare. Kevlar67 02:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Add to "To Do"
Here's a big task that could keep up busy for a while: Go to Category:Categories by city. There's lots of categories there. We need to create subcategories for each of those for Calgary and Edmonton for sure, and many of them for Lethbridge, Red Deer, For Mac, etc. Now obviously, there's no point in creating Category:Monasteries in Calgary if we don't have any articles to put in it. But I'm sure we can find, or start, some articles for Category:Education in Edmonton or Category:History of Calgary. Don't you think? Kevlar67 02:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * FWIW, many of those have been done for Lethbridge. Not all of course. --Kmsiever 01:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I saw that, good work on Lethbridge. While we are at it, we should look at Category:Categories by geographical location. You go in and look at that, and look at the excellent coverage we have in Category:Categories by country, Category:Categories by city, and even Category:Categories by state of the United States. Then compare that to the poor coverage we have on Category:Categories by province of Canada, this needs to be fixed. Kevlar67 22:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Weekly improvement article
What would you all think about picking an article related to Alberta each week and we all jump in and improve it in whatever way we can. I've seen other wikiprojects do something like this and i think it would be fun (and is much needed) for us to do something like this. --Kmsiever 01:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure we have the (committed) numbers. But if you want to try, I'll try to help.  Kevlar67 20:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Peer review Calgary
A new Peer review request has been placed for Calgary, see Peer review/Calgary/archive1. --Qyd 18:31, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Alberta/List of Alberta-related topics
Hello. I'm writing to inform the members of this project that I have moved the article List of Alberta-related topics to WikiProject Alberta/List of Alberta-related topics per discussion here. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 20:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Alberta-geo-stub sub-types
I've proposed some sub-categories for the Alberta geography stub; please comment there if you have any thoughts on the matter, be they pro-, con-, or sideways. Alai 19:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)