Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anarchism

Cleanup drive


Our cleanup backlog has grown since the last drive, so thought we could kickoff another push for the month of May. There are currently 228 articles tagged in total with 386 tagged issues. Can we get it down to zero?

For a place to start, I thought biographies of living people (BLPs) and articles in need of citations would be good. To cross off finished items from the list, there is a link above to edit the section (so as not to bother watchers of this page). Open to any other ideas here as well to make it interesting. Perhaps we should set up a mailing list for editors who have participated in the project previously?

If this is your first time participating in a cleanup drive on Wikipedia, (1) you're invited to be bold and try your best to resolve cleanup issues, and (2) if you have any questions or need a hand, please respond below and someone will help! czar 14:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Oof, there is a lot of work to do on some of these articles. Some should be simple enough to fix but damn, others have much deeper problems that I'm not sure simply addressing the CN tags will solve. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Addressing the tags is enough to remove it from this list but if an article needs more support, feel free to bring it to discussion so others can chip in too.  czar  03:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, we can't fix everything all at once. It's a work in progress. As much as I'd like to fix everything everywhere, as long as we don't have falsehoods or policy violations hanging around... it's ok that some things are a bit crap. -- asilvering (talk) 03:38, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Czar: Hey, we seem to have gone way over the limit of templates on one page, which I think has come down to both the cleanup drive transclusion and the recent literature transclusion having introduced a lot more than the page can handle. I manually archived a section and removed a bunch of templates from another, but this problem still persists. I think we may need to consider that striking every resolved entry, rather than simply removing it from the list, is causing problems of its own. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok no, after doing a bunch of archivals and changes, then just fiddling around with removing random hings, I identified the newly-added "Recent stubs" template as the source of the problem. I have temporarily removed it, just so the entire page doesn't break. We need to figure out what went wrong with it before we add it back in. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There is a backlog drive for sourcing unsourced statements starting tomorrow, which can be a good reason for finishing our above list. :)
 * Also nice work on sourcing List of self-managed social centers, ! czar  11:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ooh we're close to finishing this one off! Don't know how much time I can spend on this area this month, as my attentions are focused on the Women in Green edit-a-thon, but I hope we'll be able to address these last few before the end of the unsourced statements drive. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 09:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your citations on Ungdomshuset, ! czar  12:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No problem, I just thought I could help since I know Danish and could get Danish sources. There's still room for improvement in the article :) //Replayful (talk &#124; contribs) 14:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Just finished the last few articles needing citations and/or footnotes. I'll let the cleanup listing reset this week and add some new targets. I think this week will be a big drop in cleanup issue count and we're already halfway (54%) to goal. czar  00:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

We're two thirds (67%) of our way to goal! New cleanup tags added for your consideration above: Factual verification needed and Unreliable source cited. Take a peek and if you struggle with any article, bring it here for discussion as you're likely not alone. czar 04:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * This has unfortunately resulted in quite a few articles being stubbified, which has reversed some of the progress we made with the stub expansion drive. So if anyone has the time and energy to expand some of these stubs, that'd be appreciated. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Challenges
There are a few cleanups that look particularly challenging and I thought I'd list them here for consideration separate from the list above, in case someone is interested in a meatier project. czar 16:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Talk:Governance without government – consider merging
 * Talk:Acayucan Rebellion - cites a source many times but not page numbers
 * Talk:Anarchism in China – cites a source many times but not page numbers
 * Anarchism in Germany needs to be written as a general history rather than as an overview of German anarchist figures; will require removal
 * Anarchism in Spain was originally written with general references that were never clear what was being sourced to what, if the content was sourced anywhere at all; needs to be rewritten from sources with footnotes
 * Confederal militias needs to be rewritten from scratch to make organizational sense
 * FEJUVE only uses a single source and needs some expansion from other listed sources
 * Heroic Corps – general copy edit needed to make suitable for a general audience; might want to confirm sources
 * Lev Chernyi needs to remove closely paraphrased sources, likely by removal
 * Talk:Rewilding (anarchism)

Recent literature (2024 Q1/Q2)
For not-as-recent lit, see WikiProject Anarchism/Recent literature

New thread for 2024 and anything we've previously missed. Feel free to add! czar 03:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Books

Articles

Book/film reviews



Journals
 * Anarchist Studies (2024), vol. 32, no. 1.


 * Anarchist Developments in Cultural Studies (2023), vol. 2023, no. 2

Special issues
 * Journal of Iberian and Latin American Studies, volume 29, issue 3, 2023, special issue on Iberian anarchism in twentieth-century history

czar 03:05, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Developing Countries WikiContest
Hi everyone. Next week marks the beginning of the 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest, which is dedicated to improving articles about the Global South. Articles focused on Africa, Asia, Latin America and Eastern Europe account for roughly one quarter of our project. If you fancy taking on some articles for improvement during this event, feel free to spool through our categories covering Africa, Asia and South America, as well as relevant parts of Europe and North America. We also have some vital articles from these regions that still need improving, so if you fancy taking those on, they are:


 * Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria
 * 🇷🇺 Mikhail Bakunin
 * 🇨🇳 Chen Jiongming
 * 🇷🇺 Peter Kropotkin
 * 🇲🇽 Subcomandante Marcos
 * 🇷🇺 Sergey Nechayev
 * 🇮🇳 Bhagat Singh
 * 🇷🇺 Leo Tolstoy
 * 🇲🇽 Emiliano Zapata
 * 🇨🇳 Zhuang Zhou

I don't know how much I'll be able to participate, as I'm feeling quite burned out at the moment, but I think this would be an excellent opportunity for us to expand our geographical focus. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Fictional anarchists
The List of fictional anarchists doesn't currently meet the list notability criteria, namely that there isn't sourcing that covers this group as a list. It's more of a collection of original research and primary sources that would be sufficiently handled as a category (if there are enough notable fictional anarchists). Wanted to see if anyone else had sources or thoughts before sending it to AfD or merger. czar 16:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I think categories are probably the way to go in general, but I think there probably is coverage of individual parts of that list - eg there's a whole special issue on anarchists and comics here. -- asilvering (talk) 01:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I could see a potential article about anarchism in fiction based on sources like that but not a list of fictional anarchists. czar  14:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We already have Anarchism and the arts, which is a bit broader in scope. gobonobo  + c 01:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Too broad, I think, and properly it should be about the interaction between arts and anarchism (ie, Anarchism AND arts), not simply characters who are anarchists, or storylines that are about anarchism (ie, Anarchism IN arts). -- asilvering (talk) 18:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd be inclined to !vote keep if that list were nominated for deletion. Per WP:CLN, per academic sources that consider the evolving representation of anarchists across works of fiction (and list them, , ), or per WP:IAR. Aside from a strict reading of NLIST, is there a reason this should be deleted? We have plenty of crufty listicles on wiki that ought to be memory holed, but this list doesn't strike me as egregious. gobonobo  + c 01:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It's not that it's the most egregious but it's been tagged for cleanup and sourced to primary or unreliable sources so we should figure out its prognosis. I think the sources you cite make a case for an article on how anarchism appears in fiction but not necessarily fictional anarchist characters as a group or class, unless you're seeing something I'm not. czar  14:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I see that you tagged it for cleanup. And there are primary sources in the article that could be addressed/replaced, but the majority of the references are reliable, citing books for the most part. As to NLIST criteria and the characterization of my sources, I beg to differ. The first source,
 * is explicitly about anarchists in British fiction, not anarchy in fiction. The paper goes on for 26 pages about the anarchist character in British fiction, exploring specific instances, and treating them as a class. The second, Against Anarchy, also explores anarchist characters as a class in several places, discussing, for example, their association with a set of clichés, preconceptions, and stereotypes in early modernist fiction. gobonobo  + c 15:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Having looked into this some more and taken some more time reading the individual list entries, I think I would also be inclined to vote keep in an AfD. At the same time, I don't think this is a particularly useful list article, nor do I think it could become a particularly useful article. Part of the trouble is that there are some works that are entirely about a group of anarchists, so you end up with effectively no reason to exclude any character from The Anarchist Cookbook (film), which starts to become a bit ridiculous. I also see that the characters in each medium really are dealt with in very different ways, so I'm unconvinced that a hypothetical FL-level version of this list would hold together. More reasonable, I think, would be List of anarchists in television, List of anarchists in comics, etc. (Or just Anarchists in television, Anarchists in comics.)
 * Which is to say, I think we can reasonably remove the notability tag and leave "making this into a better article" as a building-the-encyclopedia project, not an urgent maintenance task. -- asilvering (talk) 18:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Which is to say, I think we can reasonably remove the notability tag and leave "making this into a better article" as a building-the-encyclopedia project, not an urgent maintenance task. -- asilvering (talk) 18:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)