Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Animation/American animation work group/Archive 1

WP:1.0 request
Hello! We at the Work via WikiProjects team for Wikipedia 1.0 would like you to identify the "key articles" from your project that should be included in a small CD release due to their importance, regardless of quality. We will use that information to assess which articles should be nominated for Version 0.5 and later versions. Hopefully it will help you identify which articles are the most important for the project to work on. As well, please add to your Arts WikiProject article table any articles of quality articles|high quality]]. If you are interested in developing a worklist such as this one for your WikiProject, or having a bot generate a worklist automatically for you, please contact us. Please feel free to post your suggestions right here. Thanks! Walkerma 05:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Glad to see this WikiProject is active again! We are still interested in hearing your choices of key articles. Thanks, Walkerma 05:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Marvel Superheroes
The entries Marvel Super Heroes (TV series) and The Marvel Superheroes Show need to be merged. --Jamdav86 10:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Revival
Expect to see this WikiProject re-launch by around November. --Slgr @ ndson (page - messages - contribs) 05:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to pipe in and say that I'm glad to see the project revived. I unfortunately will not be able to contribute any new content for a while, but I will gladly participate in any decision-making that goes on here and will continue to monitor a number of animation-related pages to guard against vandalism and fancruft. (Problem is that all of my animation books are in the States at the moment). So, kudos to SIgrandson. — BrianSmithson 22:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Felix the Cat FA
As an early project, I think it might be a good idea to turn our attention to Felix the Cat the article was identified as a Featured Article a while back (2003 I think), and standards have since changed. I still think it's a really good article, but it's bound to be placed on Featured article review one of these days, and in its current state, it would lose its FA status. The biggest area in which it is in violation is that it only has one or two inline citations. Anyone who has any of the standard animation histories (Beck, Barrier, Maltin, Solomon) or the Canemaker book specifically about Felix is encouraged to take at look at the article and to add inline cites wherever a potentially surprising, controversial, or contestible statement is made. Let's head off any FA loss at the pass if we can. . . . — BrianSmithson 22:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

American?
If this is the American animation wikiproject, why does the member tag say that "this user is a member of Wikiproject Animation"? Such a project does not exist. I wish it did, but it doesn't... in the meanwhile, someone should change the member tag so that it's accurate.

I do wish that there was a place to co-ordinate effort on articles about the vast amount of animation that's neither anime nor American, but I don't have the time or know-how to start a wikiproject... my time is better spent working on articles and lists, I think. Esn 05:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Participants list
I added a "supporter" (lack of better description) section for Wikipedian, like me, who makes edits to animation pages, but not sure if he or she wants to completely join the project yet. By making easier to join the group (instead of either being only "active" or "inactive"), the wikiproject can build a larger member base. Feel free to change the section name if there is a better description. ^_^  Jumping cheese  Contact 06:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Project Directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
 * User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
 * User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
 * User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 23:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

The Ren & Stimpy Show
Please review the recent edits to the page above. I can't be sure, because I know virtually nothing about the show, but I think that the recent IP edits probably qualify as vandalism. However, knowing the show's reputation and little else about it, I can't really be sure. Thank you. Badbilltucker 19:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Stablepedia
Beginning cross-post.
 * See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  23:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

''End cross-post. Please do not comment more in this section.''

WikiProject Futurama
I added WikiProject Futurama to the list of similar wikiprojects. We recently got Futurama up to GA status (finally) and are always looking for more things to do in our project. Let me know if there is anything we can do to support this wikiproject within the Futurama articles. Stardust8212 20:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Added Aqua Teen Hunger Force
I added a tag to the show Aqua Teen Hunger Force. - Illuminator of the Truth 17:04, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

What is the consensus on
I'm having a bit of trouble on another page regarding listing character traits for a fictional character. Could I have a heads up of what the consensus is from everybody else (I'm leaving the name out, to avoid bias based on people's opinions of the franchise).

We've got a fictional character from a long running teen drama/comedy series. The character is consistently honest and morally upright throughout the series (doesn't lie, doesn't cut class etc). However, there are two episodes where this is not true.

In one episode they want to go to a party, and they lie to get out of another engagement. They then have to lie to cover up that lie, and so on. In the other episode, they become embroiled in a school election and sneak in to school during the night to paste over an opponents posters with their own.

I consider both of the above to be staple-cliches of Teen comedy/drama genre (one or the other has happened in everything from Sabrina the teenage witch to saved by the Bell), think there should be some level of separation between these things and the character main personality traits (not a separate header or anything, just a wording indicating that they don't form part of the core persona), and think that it should be notes that they only happened once in a long running series.

Another user wants to use these two events as evidence of deeper flaws in the character's "nice guy" image, they also consider it irrelevant that each even happened only once, and irrelevant followed a cliche "moral message" formula.

What does everybody else think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfectblue97 (talk • contribs)


 * Hay PB! This page was on my watch page.  I can't comment...conflict of interests.    Jumping cheese   Cont @ct 11:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It's hard to say without seeing the text, but this statement: "evidence of deeper flaws in the character's "nice guy" image" sounds like someone is doing some original research which is not allowed in wikipedia. You should both take a step back from your personal feelings about the character/series and look at whether the text reflects "What happened in the show" or "What I think about what happened in the show". If the article has a significant amount of "so and so did this which indicates this" but you didn't retrieve that from a reliable source then there is a problem. Just remember to keep a neutral point of view and pull all "evidence" from a verifiable source. Hope that helps, feel free to drop the name of the article and I'll take a look at it myself. Stardust8212 14:01, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * It's exactly as you said WP:OR WP:OR WP:OR. What's particularly bad is that I'm having problems with a small core who are taking brief references or scenes and then either blowing them up or extrapolating on them based on what they think might happen in the real world, not based on what was actually written in the script.


 * A character might do something that is out of character, and somebody then comes along and trying to make it sound as if they are a significant underlying issue of the character's persona For example, X is pressured into stealing a road sign as a gift for Y. It is a one off incident that is scripted as a cautionary moral tale for the audience, but and the next day somebody has edited the page to say that "this shows that the character is only putting up a front of respectability, and is really a thief who is hiding their true nature", or that "Charater X is a know thief and vandal". They cite the episode as WP:V, and then get angry when I try to explain why they can't say what they said under W:OR.

perfectblue 15:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Perfectblue and Stardust8212 are on the money here. Wikipedia editors have no place making lists of character traits, extrapolating deeper flaws, or analyzing fiction; that's all original research. Instead, we should be finding third-party, reliable sources that provide such analysis and deferring to them. — Brian ( talk ) 22:33, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Hollywood cartoon
Just as an announcement, I added a "studio" field to the infobox (primarily because I found it unwieldy to smash the studio name and the producers' names in one "produced by" field). The new field is coded as optional in the template, but should be used whenever a cartoon short is produced by a company who is not also the distributor (which, in the case of most American cartoons, is often true). --FuriousFreddy 13:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Rugrats - Expert Needed
Is there anybody out thee with a good knowledge of Rugrats episodes?

perfectblue 13:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

List of works produced by Hanna-Barbera
This article needs to be restructured into a more accessible format. User:The Tramp was working on a table version, but the best solution would require input from more than one person. Can we get some discussion going on this? --FuriousFreddy 01:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Large credit sections of crew members?
Is there a guideline for dealing with the large credit sections that appear in many animated television series articles? Animated shows frequently have hundreds of people working on them, but I don't believe it's helpful to list every single minor crew member, although that seems to be happening frequently. Sometimes there are articles with a couple of sentences about the show, then 30 lines of credits. It would be useful to have a guideline so these can be edited consistently, IMO only the producers, directors, writers, and main character designers should be listed. Masaruemoto 21:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I've noticed the same thing recently, a lot of animated shows' articles have suddenly had large credit lists added to them by IP editors. I would remove them as most of the people credited on these shows are not notable enough to have their own articles, so the credit lists aren't much use. Pufnstuf 23:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The articles on the DuckTales episodes need some serious clean up.

 * Main discussion: DuckTales#The episodes (If you're watching this page, please read.)

If you have any DVDs of DuckTales, or recorded episodes, or a channel that shows DuckTales(it doesn't have to be in English, people not from an English-speaking country are more than welcome to help.) please use these sources to help you with the cleanup, and try to clean up. TheBlazikenMaster 09:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

The Lord of the Rings (1978 film) FAR listing
The Lord of the Rings (1978 film) has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.--Dark Kubrick 19:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

New guideline on fiction: Delete animation-related articles?
I would like to call the attention of members of this project to the recently revised guideline at WP:FICT, which now states that all sub-articles on fictional subjects must independently meet a new (stricter) notability ruling than what was in place prior to the new guideline. If enforced, the new guideline would likely result in the deletion and/or merging of hundreds of articles on fictional subjects, such as fictional characters, television episodes, fictional locations, etc. There is active discussion / disagreement related to this issue at Wikipedia talk:Notability (fiction), and in the interests of ensuring the topic is fully discussed by interested editors, I would invite members of this project to participate in that discussion (whether you agree with the new guideline or not). Fairsing 21:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Proposed merger
The WikiProject Aqua Teen Hunger Force has only one member, but does have a few templates which are useful and in use. It also has only one member, and no recent activity. I think it would make sense if your group here were to take on that inactive project, possibly as a work group, possibly not. But the extant separate WikiProject is fairly clearly inactive, and unlikely to get any more members, given that no one has joined since the project began in February. John Carter 19:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Helpful book
Hey all, I recently attained the book "Drawn to Television: Prime-time animation from The Flintstones to Family Guy" from my University Library. I plan to use it to work on Futurama until I need to return it in December but if I can help out anyone else with their pet projects then let me know. Stardust8212 00:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Featured Article candidate

 * Trapped in the Closet (South Park), please voice your comments at Featured article candidates/Trapped in the Closet (South Park). Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 01:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC).
 * Thank you to all who commented at the FAC. Trapped in the Closet (South Park), was successfully promoted to a Featured Article.  Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 05:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC).

Merge proposal

 * Please see: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Comics - jc37 19:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Personally, I don't see the point in merging the two projects. Animated film and comics are two rather different (albeit similar in certain ways) art forms. -- Cinemaniac (talk) 01:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Looney Tunes on TV Article Proposal
Recently, there's been a proposal by Agtaz to create an individual article concerning the Looney Tunes television broadcast history. I've asked a few other WP:US-TOON and WP:TV participants for advice, and they give their support. In order for the discussion to spread out, though, I've posted this announcement at the main project page. Research and development for said article are currently underway. Any comments? Ideas? Suggestions? Advice? Anyone interested may either comment under this heading or here at my talk page. Input and feedback will be appreciated. — Cinemaniac (talk) 18:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Portal peer review
Portal:The Simpsons is on Portal Peer Review. Your feedback/comments would be appreciated, at Portal peer review/The Simpsons, before I eventually nominate the portal to be a Featured Portal Candidate. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 19:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC).

Possible Pixar task force?
There is now a proposal at WikiProject Council/Proposals for a group to deal specifically with Pixar productions which has gotten five members, which is generally thought enough for a task force. Would this project be willing to take on such a subproject? John Carter (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I can't say so for everyone, but I for one would be happy to join such a subproject. I've enjoyed Pixar's animation efforts over the past decade, and I'd be happy to help supply information.  — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 21:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson on Peer Review
The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson has recently been passed as a Good Article, and is currently undergoing a Peer Review. Any comments/feedback on how to further improve the article's quality would be most appreciated, at Peer review/The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson/archive1. Cirt (talk) 00:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Peer review has been archived, thanks to those who gave feedback. Cirt (talk) 03:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC).

The Last Temptation of Krust on Peer Review
The Last Temptation of Krust has recently been passed as a Good Article, and is currently undergoing a Peer Review. Any comments/feedback on how to further improve the article's quality would be most appreciated, at Peer review/The Last Temptation of Krust. Cirt (talk) 10:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC).

Centralized TV Episode Discussion
Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here. This issue is affecting and if not yet, will affect all animated TV shows. --User: (talk) 01:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Original research and "fancruft" issues with Drawn Together episodes
A lot of filler and fluff exists in "Drawn Together" episodes - Character articles contain cruft, unsourced trivia sections exist - No sourced real world information... Argh! I should mass nominate many of those articles for cleanup. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:WikiProject Aqua Teen Hunger Force
Is it safe to assume that the ATHF WikiProject has been rendered obsolete? Nearly every page under the project has been redirected or deleted, and I seem to be the only member interested in improving it. Kamek (talk) 04:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Ralph Bakshi FAC
The Ralph Bakshi article is a current Featured Article Candidate. Please help get this overview of an important filmmaker in American Animation to FA status. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 08:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC))

"Hell Is Other Robots" Featured article nomination
"Hell Is Other Robots", an episode of Futurama, has been nominated for Featured Article status. Comments are welcome at the nomination page. Stardust8212 14:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Closed and promoted to Featured Article Status. Thanks to all those who helped! Stardust8212 01:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:FICT has been revised
WP:FICT, the notability guideline for elements within a work of fiction (characters, places, elements, etc) has a new proposal/revision that is now live Everyone is encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page. Ned Scott 22:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (serial works)
There is a proposal to split WP:EPISODE into a more general notability guideline, Notability (serial works), and make the rest of WP:EPISODE just a MOS guideline. Please join in at WT:EPISODE and/or Wikipedia talk:Notability (serial works). -- Ned Scott 22:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Selection of articles for offline releases
Hi, we at WP:1.0 have been testing a bot to select articles for offline release based on quality and importance assessments. We want an offline release of around 20,000-30,000 articles from all subject areas, and we want these to be picked based on a combination of importance and quality. Importance is considered more important than quality (we don't just want a collection including lots of FAs and GAs on trivia then find we failed to include Battle of Stalingrad, Spain or (heaven forbid!) Walt Disney. However, an FA like Coonskin (film) would probably be included, because although it's not a really important topic, it is clearly non-trivial, and a very nice article.

We have a tentative selection of WP:American Animation articles. A couple of comments: First, the hitranking is very rough, but should get much better. Second, there will be some articles that aren't in the table (like Shrek, but these will be considered in the actual runs.

The articles are ranked in order of Score3; the three score options are based on a balanced combination of quality and importance. I'd really like to know if people think this would be an appropriate ordering of the articles, and if it would be a reasonable selection if we picked (say) all articles with Score3 >900 (or >800?). If the ordering is wrong, how have we got it wrong? If you want to see lists for other projects, take a look here. We want to get these selections right, so please comment here, thanks! Walkerma (talk) 06:21, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, we now have some better ranking algorithms, I think. Please can you take a look and see if the articles are ranked in the right order?  Which do you like best - Score3, Score5, Score7, or something else? Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 17:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Userbox
Does this Project have a Userbox I can add to my user page? Copying the code for the one shown on the project page really messes things up. TIA! Captain Infinity (talk) 17:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * While the Wikiproject does indeed have a userbox, I'm surprised that I couldn't find a simple template for it at Userboxes/WikiProjects. Perhaps I overlooked it or something? — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 17:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I found no template for the userbox at my userpage, either. Ah well. . . — Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs) 17:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks to some advice from User:Revolving_Bugbear I was able to code a Userbox that did what I wanted it to. If anyone else would like to display it, use  . Captain Infinity (talk) 22:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

John T. Smith
I was watching Bunny Hugged yesterday, and working on the article. I added the Infobox and noticed the link to John T. Smith, who is a professional wrestler. I thought it odd but possible that he did the voice of The Crusher so I kept the link live. However in looking over the project page today I saw the note that it was the wrong John T. Smith, so today I de-linked him on both the Bunny Hugged page as well as The Crusher. So what happens to this task on the project page now? Should I remove it? Strike it? How does one note tasks which have been accomplished (or at least attempted, as it would be nice to someday link to an article about the correct John T. Smith). Captain Infinity (talk) 22:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Rather than unlinking the article it might be more useful to disambiguate the link to John T. Smith (voice actor) or something similar/appropriate. The overall goal of the project seems to be to eventually have a page for this person (I assume they are notable) so just removing all links referencing them is not beneficial. Hopefully seeing this redlink will inspire somebody to eventually write an article on him. Stardust8212 23:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * He does have an IMDB page here but it's very sparse, with voice work for only 11 shorts, 1950 to 1954. I doubt this makes him notable enough to warrant a page.  But I'll redlink him as you suggested. Captain Infinity (talk) 01:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In case anybody was wondering, John T. Smith was the long-unknown voice of the red-bearded hillbilly and the square dance calling jukebox for Hillbilly Hare. You can thank voice actor and expert Keith Scott for finding that out. Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs) 01:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Specialized "Welcome" message
I'm glad to see this project is starting to come alive again! Thanks to all those who have joined and showed their support for this WikiProject. But I was looking at some other Wikiprojects, and I see that they have a standard "welcome" message for editors, something like ~. Don't you think we should have a similar kind of template, so that we can welcome editors interested in animation, in a more organized fashion. In my last four months here, I've stumbled across many IP addresses who show an obvious knowledge of animation and its history, but in greeting them I couldn't think of anything but an aside to introduce them to the Animation Wikiproject. Does anybody think we should come up with a standard, specialized template for greeting users interested in animation articles? Comments are appreciated. Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs) 01:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's a nice plan, but I have idea how to go about it. Captain Infinity (talk) 02:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the positive comment. Unfortunately, I don't have any idea how to create such a template either. I hope some other participant who's been around here longer can put in their two cents. Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 02:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I had a look at WikiProject_Biography/Outreach and they have a welcome message by subst-ing WikiProject_Biography/Outreach/Welcome onto a page using . We could probably modify something similar to use. Hope that helps. Stardust8212 02:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

The Principal and the Pauper is on Peer Review
Please see Peer review/The Principal and the Pauper/archive1. Cirt (talk) 22:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion: Get and use Not Just Cartoons: Nicktoons! by Jerry Beck
This specifically has to do with Nicktoons-related articles - I posted this notice in many other places, but I decided it would be a good idea to post this here too.

Not Just Cartoons: Nicktoons! by Jerry Beck would make a good source for many articles.

This makes the creation of separate articles for *many* fictional characters feasible. Having information about the development of the character will make the articles satisfy Notability (fiction) WhisperToMe (talk) 02:19, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

FAC notice

 * FYI, The Last Temptation of Krust is currently on WP:FAC. Cirt (talk) 19:46, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Treehouse of Horror V PR
Just letting you know that this is currently having a peer reviw here. I'm hopful I can nom this soon. Buc (talk) 17:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello!
Hello, I'm Italian, I am the founder of http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progetto:Cartoons in It.Wiki. (Yeah, I'm G.M. Sir Lawrence)

Do you copy by our project? Eh,eh,eh! So, in our Project is born the question of the name, "Cartoons". I think that Cartoon is the American cartoon like anime is the japaneese cartoon. Your Project is better than our, help our, is it better Cartoons or American Animation like name? Your Wikipedia is better than our you are more organzize than our.

Thank you. (I see that the image of Superman is in our project, do you see our project, aren't? Eh,eh,eh!) G.M. Sir Lawrence --82.53.172.22 (talk) 17:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, our parent project is WikiProject Animation. The term "cartoon" seems to, according to the cartoon page, have been initially a full-size drawing which served as the basis for later works, which tended to transfered to canvas or tapestry. I guess the term came in use because the original "cartoons" on paper are now often transferred to film or celluloid to make the animated cartoons we see today. But even there the term "animated cartoons" seems to be the more "basic" one to describe the pictures in cartoons. Sorry, I myself can't read Italian, so I can't verify if this page was copied from there or not, although for all I know it might be. :) John Carter (talk) 18:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Possible renaming/expansion of project?
Right now, anime is covered by WikiProject Anime and Manga, and animation from America by this project. Would the members of the project object to broadening the scope of the project a little to perhaps cover all animation not covered by any other project, and possibly renaming the project WikiProject Animation to reflect the broader scope? Basically, I think the only changes would be inclusion of European, African, Australian, South American, and the Asian animation not covered by WikiProject Anime and Manga, which probably wouldn't add that much to the existing scope, but it would ensure that someone at least would be working with that content. John Carter (talk) 14:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I was a member of the (not very active) Web Animation WikiProject and I wasn't even aware that it had been merged into this one. I think it's a good thing, for the record, I just wish I'd known about it. Anyway, I've created quite a number of animation articles, most notably the list of animated feature-length films.  Esn (talk) 05:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Lost Our Lisa on Peer Review
Lost Our Lisa on Peer Review. Your comments would be appreciated, at Peer review/Lost Our Lisa/archive1. Cirt (talk) 09:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Modern animation in the United States
Hello. Unreferenced articles needs your help. Modern animation in the United States has been categorized as lacking references since June, 2006. Could you please take a minute out of your busy day to help add sources? Thanks for your time. Viriditas (talk) 12:51, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Felix the Cat
Will people here kindly keep an eye on Felix the Cat? A seemingly well-meaning anonymous editor is repeatedly adding information to the article without citing any sources. I have tried to explain to them on their talk page that new additions to articles must be attributed to reliable sources, but so far to no avail. The edits are to a particularly contentious part of the article, over who created Felix (Otto Messmer or Pat Sullivan), which is an area that needs to be carefully sourced to avoid POV issues. Thanks for any help, — Dulcem (talk) 13:09, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

The Principal and the Pauper at WP:FAC
The Principal and the Pauper is up at WP:FAC, comments would be appreciated. FAC discussion page is here: Featured article candidates/The Principal and the Pauper. Cirt (talk) 15:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

FAR
Scooby-Doo has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Ultra! 14:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The Ren and Stimpy Show
Im going to watch over Ren and Stimpy, Hey Arnold, Family Guy and The Mighty B. Gregory E. Miller (talk) 22:53, 15 May 2008 (UTC))

Looking for a Wizard magazine...
Hey all. I have a rather specific request. Does anyone have a copy of ''Toons! The Animation Magazine'' #1? Toons was a short-lived Wizard spinoff from the late 1990s. The issue I'm looking for had a picture of Pikachu on the cover. I mainly want it because I think it might have some information on "Nazis on Tap", the "lost" Simpsons short. If anyone has a copy, or could let me know how to get one, I'd really appreciate it. Zagalejo^^^ 06:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:FLRC of List of Avatar: The Last Airbender episodes
List of Avatar: The Last Airbender episodes has been nominated for the removal of its Featured list status. The discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Avatar: The Last Airbender episodes. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 01:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
 * The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
 * The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
 * A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot  ( Disable )  22:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Airbend season articles
Currently, the season pages for Airbender are listed as "articles". I think they need a bit more prose content to really establish themselves as an article. Right now, the majority of the page is just a list of episodes. The "Production" section doesn't really contain production information, just a list of who directed the episodes, wrote the episodes, appeared in the episodes. I mean, the director and writer info is straight on the table of episodes. Given how the other season articles have the same information, but are going through featured list nominations (Lost (season 3), The O.C. (season 1), The Simpsons (season 1)), I really think that the Airbender pages should be doing the same. The "prose" content in the articles is really-if you look at it closely-just list of people in sentence form. The only season "article" currently out there is Smallville (season 1), and that's only an article because of the fact that if you remove the episode table everything is else pure prose on how they made each episode.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  01:25, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup
Currently, 599 articles are assigned to this project, of which 246, or 41.1%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 2008-07-14.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.

If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:21, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

William Hanna FAC preps
I've taken this article from this to this, in preps for filing it for FAC. I could you some help now with:
 * 1) finding a free image of Hanna
 * 2) some good copyediting
 * 3) expanding the lead
 * and when that's done I'll unlink the repetitive links (things can change during ce, so I don't want to do now), then file for FAC.

Any help is greatly appreciated. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 02:43, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Robotech articles
A bunch of Robotech articles were prodded recently (with the comment that they are major and important but unsourced...). I deprodded and partially merged the character articles into List of Robotech characters, so someone will have to complete the merge and turn the article names into redirects.

I also deprodded VF-1 Valkyrie since it's a major toyline and basis of a Transformers character.

Left prodded are the major storyline Malcontent Uprisings, and articles Pioneer Expedition, SDF-4 Izumo, Garfish class cruiser (Robotech).

These articles need to be referenced and cleaned up. Since Robotech is a hybrid Japanese/American universe, I've informed you guys. 70.51.11.210 (talk) 06:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Smurfs
A bunch of Smurfs articles were just prodded, see Category:Proposed deletion as of 17 August 2008 70.51.11.210 (talk) 12:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Homer Simpson
Hello, I've recently been working on Homer's article and I would like some feed back on it. At the moment, I'm not worried about copyediting, but any input relating to anything (especially stuff that could be added) is more than welcome. Thanks, Scorpion0422 02:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Felix the Cat FAR
Felix the Cat has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 02:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Animation
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for American Animation
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 23:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Joint task force for animated films
A joint task force on animated films has been proposed on WikiProject Films. Interested editors are encouraged to discuss and sign up. If there is enough support, the task force will be created. Thanks! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 20:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Missing some key areas
I noticed there's no article for American animation itself. O_o I can't help you with it, and I'm sorry for prodding you folks without giving my own effort, but it seems very odd that I can't find any consolidated information, especially with a WikiProject dedicated to it.  Oc t  ane  [ improve me ] 10.03.08 0326 (UTC)

Ralph Bakshi
The Ralph Bakshi article is once again up for FAC. Can you lend your commentary? (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 17:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC))

Ralph Bakshi
Hi there. Ralph Bakshi is a current featured article candidate, but I'm not exactly 100% clear on some of the references. Could someone check the page numbers for Leonard Maltin's book Of Mice and Magic: A History of American Animated Cartoons? I don't have a copy, and I can't find it on Google Books. Any help in getting this article promoted to FA status would be appreciated. Thanks. (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 13:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC))


 * Another request. Does anyone have the book Unfiltered: The Complete Ralph Bakshi? Could you check it to make sure that there's nothing missing from the article, or that any of the information in the article is incorrect? (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 13:47, 24 February 2009 (UTC))

Battle of Mars
Battle of Mars was prodded. I deprodded it because I think it should be merged into First Robotech War. 76.66.193.90 (talk) 06:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Robotech articles
There's a mass reorganization, merging, etc proposal up for Robotech at WT:ANIME 76.66.193.90 (talk) 11:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Article alerts
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If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the  parameter, but forget to give a link to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Wikipedia:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts.

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Coordinators' working group
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. &mdash; Delievered by §hepBot  ( Disable )  on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 04:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

South Park Featured topic drive
WikiProject South Park participants have started a page at WP:SOUTHPARK/TOPIC to organize featured topic drive collaborations. The primary goal is to improve the quality of articles about South Park episodes, with the ultimate end goal of getting sets of episodes by season to Good Topic or even Featured Topic status. We are starting off by focusing on Season 1, to get it to Good Topic status, see WikiProject South Park/Featured topic Drive/season 1. Any help is appreciated, and feel free to comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South Park/Featured topic Drive. Cirt (talk) 22:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Ralph Bakshi/archive7
Please help out by reviewing the article at the FAC page. Thanks! (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 03:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC))

GA Sweeps invitation
This message is being sent to WikiProjects with GAs under their scope. Since August 2007, WikiProject Good Articles has been participating in GA sweeps. The process helps to ensure that articles that have passed a nomination before that date meet the GA criteria. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. Instead of reviewing by topic, editors can consider picking and choosing whichever articles they are interested in.

We are always looking for new members to assist with reviewing the remaining articles, and since this project has GAs under its scope, it would be beneficial if any of its members could review a few articles (perhaps your project's articles). Your project's members are likely to be more knowledgeable about your topic GAs then an outside reviewer. As a result, reviewing your project's articles would improve the quality of the review in ensuring that the article meets your project's concerns on sourcing, content, and guidelines. However, members can also review any other article in the worklist to ensure it meets the GA criteria.

If any members are interested, please visit the GA sweeps page for further details and instructions in initiating a review. If you'd like to join the process, please add your name to the running total page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles from the worklist or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. With ~1,300 articles left to review, we would appreciate any editors that could contribute in helping to uphold the quality of GAs. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 21:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Copyediting help with Bart Sells His Soul
Bart Sells His Soul - This article is currently undergoing a GA review, at Talk:Bart Sells His Soul/GA1. Additional help with copyediting would be much appreciated. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 21:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Bart Sells His Soul at Peer Review
The article Bart Sells His Soul is currently undergoing a peer review, input would be appreciated at its peer review page: Peer review/Bart Sells His Soul/archive1. Cirt (talk) 02:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Are there enough articles on this subject to justify an Outline of American animation?
By the way, here's a relevant discussion about subject development you might find interesting.

Now back to the question...

The Transhumanist 01:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

List of Teen Titans episodes listed at Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates
List of Teen Titans episodes has been nominated for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Matthewedwards : Chat  15:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
I've nominated this article a week or so ago, and has received only one a comment since then. If anyone would like to comment, I would greatly appreciated it.  The Flash  {talk} 21:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Spoiler Warning Discussion
A discussion is underway at Village pump (proposals)/Archive 55 discussing whether spoiler alerts should be added to all articles that cover a fictional topic or if spoilers should be removed by removing all plot summaries from all articles, except for any sentences that can be sourced to secondary sources only. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 04:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

New Member
I'm new to the project, and just thought I would introduce myself. Sean (talk || contribs) 04:51, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
This message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the WP 1.0 assessment system. On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the WP 1.0 bot will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's summary table will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the WP 1.0 project homepage. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 02:31, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Toon Zone RS assessment
Members of this project are invited to comment on an assessment of Toon Zone (www.toonzone.net) as a possible reliable source. Arsonal (talk) 02:21, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Santiago Cohen
This article about animator Santiago Cohen is an almost unreferenced BLP. He seems to have enough of a body of work to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines but I have been unable to find any suitable third-party references through researching his book illustration work, which is my area of expertise. So I've given up for the time being and am posting here in case any experts in the field of animation feel like cleaning up the article.--Plad2 (talk) 10:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

A question on animated films....
For animated film projects, when is "filming" considered to have begun? Is it with the commencement of character design and actual animation creation involving particpation of director, artists, and animators? Or is it only considered to have "begun" once the animators finish their work and voice actors begin their own contributions to the final product? Thanks  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:37, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

American Animation articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the American Animation articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (&diams;) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!

For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 00:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

List of Metalocalypse episodes
Another editor and I are working on this article which is part of your project (I think) and we do not agree on what is and is not a copyright violation on the page. Much of the text can be find on other websites and what is and isn't a copyright violation isn't always clear. In my opinion, it's starting to look like we're not going to come to a conclusion so I'd like to ask editors here to contribute to the page and/or the conversation regarding the text. Any help with the article would be greatly appreciated. Ol Yeller '''Talktome 05:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit warring at Bob's Burgers
I'm pretty certain edit warring is going to continue at Bob's Burgers (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob%27s_Burgers&action=historysubmit&diff=420094059&oldid=420042863). Various editors, both registered and unregistered, continue to add a section on the opening gags despite lack of sources, notability, and the content being trivia. A talk page discussion was created to avoid the edit warring, but it's clear that the champion of maintaining the section does not grasp the policies at hand. Feel free to weigh in.Luminum (talk) 05:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Animation newsletter - May 2011
The May 2011 issue of the WikiProject Animation newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. JJ98 (Talk)  23:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Renaming to Aqua Teen Hunger Force to Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1
Please comment here for the requested move for discussion of renaming to Aqua Teen Hunger Force to Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1. Thank you for your time. Regards, JJ98 (Talk / Contributions)  08:27, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Animation/American animation work group to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at WikiProject Animation/American animation work group/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 21:56, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

B-Class checklist
Greeting, I am a coordinator for WP:ANIMATION. A B-Class checklist will be added to the project banner, along with the work group text, including the importance function. The B-Class checklist will include 6 point parameters to assess against the criteria. If you have any questions, please discuss at our talk page. Thank for your time. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions)  20:53, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Proposal to add American animation work group under WikiProject United States
Greetings, I am a member of WikiProject United States, it was recently suggested that the American animation work group of WikiProject Animation might be inactive or semi active and it might be beneficial to include a joint work group for it in the list of projects supported by WikiProject United States, which Kumioko have added some of the projects like WikiProject American television and WikiProject United States Government. After reviewing the project it appears that there have not been any active discussion on the talk page in some time and the only content updates appear to be simple maintenance so being supported by a larger project might be beneficial. This discussion is intended to start the process of determining if the project members are interested in the joint task force being added to the projects supported by WikiProject United States. If have any thoughts, comments or questions, please let me know. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions)  11:02, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have added American animation work group to the WikiProject United States banner since there any no objections. I will begin to asses some of the articles myself. If have any concerns or questions, please let me know or ask at the project. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions)  22:47, 22 November 2011 (UTC)