Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Animation/SpongeBob SquarePants work group/Archive 1

Interviews
If you would like to sign up to be interviewed, please tell me right here. I will randomly draw someone's name each month from the list, and I will interview that person. The interview will be published in the newsletter. I am hoping that the opinions of the members will help improve the SpongeBob articles on WikiPedia. -AMK152 14:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Interview me sometime--User:NFAN3&#124;NFAN3 13:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

And me. Bowsy (review me!) 08:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

May I Join
Excuse me, but may I join this Wikiproject? I could use something to work on. King Toadsworth 00:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * You dont have to ask, just join in! Sign your name on the members section of the article. -AMK152 19:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Ha ha that is so cool I will I can add lots of good stuff--Aved 01:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

CFD notice
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. --Kbdank71 15:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Please also note Deletion review/Log/2007 February 20 for a review of the decision regarding Category:Actors by series. Tim! 08:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Episode Quotes to Wikiquote
Hi, I'm currently revamping the SpongeBob Squarepants page at Wikiquote, and I've noticed that many of the recent episodes listed on Wikipedia have quotes in them as well. I will gladly move them all over to the proper place, but I'm curious to where on Wikipedia I should point people to the direction of Wikiquote. I am aware that there is a link to Wikiquote from the main SpongeBob SquarePants Wikipedia page, but I'm afraid of people continuing to add quotes in the episode pages, with out realizing they're in the wrong place. So I guess I'm asking if I should add the { { wikiquote } } template to the end of the episode pages or watch the episode pages for all quotes and remove them if they should reappear. Thanks! Curlyro 03:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * There is a note in the WikiProject template on the Talk pages. Adding a Wikiquote link would be a great idea. Putting the link to Wikiquote on the episode Template would be a sugguestion as where to put it. - A M K 1 5 2 (Talk • Contributions • Send message) 12:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

CfD Notice
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. --Kbdank71 15:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Note: Although the above category doesn't in fact exist, it is the header under which the discussion is located, so the discussion link will work. -- BlueSquadron Raven  04:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Boating School needs to be wikifed
I feel that the more words in the plot need to be wikifed. If you are going to wikify a word, read WP:MOS first before doing it. Do not wikify words such as "he." Squirepants101 16:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab needs to be rewritten?
I was just looking at the plot here and feel that this too needs to be rewitten better and not in levels either, but in an actual plot-line, so to speak. However, I can not rewrite it myself, as I have not played the game myself. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 08:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Help
I'm interested in joining, however, I cannot find the template for signing my name on the article the way they appear. (It doesn't work with the four tildes; it doesn't show the "talk-contribs-count-logs" thing.) Help very much appreciated. The Bone III 22:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * To join, add   to the list. Replace USERNAME with your username. - A M K 1 5 2 (Talk • Contributions • Send message) 23:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The Bone III 23:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Wumbology
I have added the deletion tag for the Wumbology article. I do not beleive that it merits a merge with another article or to remain an article unto itself. It is simply not relevant enough in the SpongeBob universe to be considered encyclopedic material. The Bone III 21:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What about just redirecting that page to the relevent episode? Would that be better as instead? Captain Drake Van Hellsing 09:21, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

IT MIGHT BE..ILL TRY THAT..=] Push It Baby!! ..Dats Muh Song!!..=] (Tay) 13:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

HEY WHERE IS THE EPISODE PAGE FOR "im your biggest fanatic"?...=] Push It Baby!! ..Dats Muh Song!!..=] (Tay)


 * "Wumbology" is from the episode Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy IV. The Bone III 21:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

oooooooo lol..=] Push It Baby!! ..Dats Muh Song!!..=] (Tay) 02:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Clearing needless single episode articles
Single episode articles do not need to exist for most series. Only certain shows of high regard (The Simpsons, Dr. Who), that can have actual information, need them. An episode needs to be capable of having more than just a plot summary; along with a nice, concise plot summary, they need to have at least well sourced development, and reception sections. Examples of this can be found here, here, and in any of the episode articles here. Obviously, they won't just pop up for every episode article, but it is easy to tell that this is very unlikely to happen for this series. I plan on doing this in five days if no concerns are brought up. If they are brought up, I will address them. Nemu 19:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you merge these articles, what would happen to the title cards? Would they be tagged for deletion or would they be readded back to List of SpongeBob SquarePants episodes (A few days ago, former admin User:Betacommand removed all of the images from the article per WP:FU. Before that, I opposed having all those images in the article and I still do. If these images are readded, the article might regain the reputation of being a "giant fair-use disaster."). Pants (T) 23:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * They'll tagged as orphans. With the newfound strictness towards non-free images, they certainly won't be going back to the list. Nemu 23:54, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have a few concerns:
 * SpongeBob is as high regard of a show as the Simpsons. It is a very notable and popular show, and many of the episodes are notable as well.
 * What about all the work put into the episode articles, plot summeries and some production details? People have put in a lot of effort on trying to improve these articles. Yes, quotes belong on Wikiquote. Trivia is trying to downsize. Some trivia even includes production details.
 * I have looked at some Simpson episode articles and saw that they look pretty much the same as SpongeBob, except the name of the show and that the Simpsons includes more production details. SpongeBob does have information on production details, and if you look at a few of the articles you'll see them. Audio Comentary, DVD bonus features, interviews with cast and crew can be found on the internet or on DVDs that can provide extra information on the episodes. However, I only own the SpongeBob Movie DVD. If I had the others, like season box sets, I would use these to improve the articles. I believe the SpongeBob SquarePants articles have potential to improve. You name the specific problems and I believe they can improve. I'm sure that a compromise can be made. Please name me, in your opinion, the best SpongeBob episode article and the worst SpongeBob episode article also. - A M K 1 5 2 (Talk • Contributions • Send message) 20:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, its a children's show that is pretty popular. It is no where near the standing that The Simpsons has gained over the years. The only production details on these episode articles are trivial goofs; these are nothing close to what is needed. There is no way that they have enough to actively source the articles either. It's likely only notes of the series's main production anyways. They also need reception, which is unlikely for 10 minute cartoons.


 * I looked at twenty of the episodes, and they all have the same junk or lack of content, so there is no way to choose a best or worst. Nemu 21:02, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * SpongeBob is not only watched by children. Many teens and adults watch the show as well. There are some production details in some of the episodes. Scene removals and stuff like that. What is your opinion of cultural references? I'm sure there is a way to distinguish a best and a worst. Like I said before, SpongeBob episodes do have production details, they just havn't been added yet. Like I said before, trivia needs to be cleaned up. - A M K 1 5 2 (Talk • Contributions • Send message) 21:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It is watched by all ages, like every show, but the vast majority are children. Scene removals are too trivial to care about. You need true production notes similar to the ones in the example articles. That is doubtful for ten minute cartoons. There may be a couple points here and there, but they will not suffice for actual sections. Cultural references are trivial, unless they are the basis of a full episode. Those can easily be integrated into a plot summary if needed. Please provide a couple examples of "production notes" if you really believe that they are note worthy. Nemu 21:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't want this discussion to get ugly. Since you havn't proposed a compromise, I have:
 * Plan A. Keep the articles the way they are.
 * Plan B. Merge episodes into 5 articles: Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. If an episode is good enough for its own article, its contents can be put back in its article. The Infobox would be cut of the episode list and serve as a place to provide writers, directors, guests, airdate, prod #, etc. Each season article would basically look something like this:

Head, describing season.

Episodes Name
Plot summery, production details, cultural references (within plot summary, like your suggestion) and other information goes here. Info box would be located to right of section.

Episodes Name
Plot summery, production details, cultural references (within plot summary, like your suggestion) and other information goes here. Info box would be located to right of section.

Episodes Name
Plot summery, production details, cultural references (within plot summary, like your suggestion) and other information goes here. Info box would be located to right of section.

etc.
etc.