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Pronouns for Kiruko
So few days ago I created Kiruko who despite looking a girl, is actually a male character who had his brain transplanted to his sister. As a result, I'm kinda confused with what gender pronoun use with Kiruko. In the first two episodes it is a mystery as Kiruko claims she is a woman but when Maru confesses to her, she claims she is a man in a woman's body. Still, in later episodes, Kiruko claims that she is actually Haruki, a guy as noted by his/her personality or chemistry when interacting with Maru so I'm lost with what to write in the article. Any idea?Tintor2 (talk) 18:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have watched the series, and i think it is better to just mention how she is mentally Haruki in the opening paragraph and use the pronouns she/her elsewhere on the page. ／talk 12:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The recent manga chapters keep making emphasis on this when the character changes between the Japanese words "watashi", "boku" and "ore" to hide her true identity but when in a casual scene, Maru simply introduces himself as Kiruko's boyfriend to a man who believes that's Kiruko so I'm confused. Tintor2 (talk) 19:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I haven't read that far into the story yet, but I'm glad it's not that big of a spoiler :") Again, it's debatable as we could also use the pronouns he/him instead, but personally, i would lean towards using she/her because most of the characters in the story refer to her as a girl. Also, i doubt any reader would be confused by it, as you have already explained the same in the lead. ／talk 05:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Unrelated to this, but since you originally added the covers for Where Our Blue Is, do you suggest adding the back cover featuring Geto as well? It is substantially different from the two covers already present in the article, but I'm not sure since it might fall under grounds for deletion due to too many covers. Are you familiar with it? ／talk 05:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

English sources

 * Newspapers.com has an extensive archive anime/manga articles including movie reviews.
 * J-Fan was a short lived UK magazine on anime.
 * j-pop.com - Viz media's online magazine for anime reviews/features.

J-Fan was a print magazine only lasting two issues and the creator has made the two issues available for free online. I haven't seen any problems with it. Anime covered include: Patlabor 2, Project A-Ko, Irresponsible Captain Taylor, Madox-01, Ghost in the Shell (1995 film), Ranma, Hayao Miyazaki films, and a Koichi Ohata interview. It actually resolves an issue I had previously where I was searching for English language print sources for Project A-Ko. Harizotoh9 (talk) 20:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Notice of reliable sources noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard about the reliability of Dani Cavallaro's work. Members of this WikiProject may be interested in joining as her publications are cited in multiple articles related to anime and manga. The relevant thread is at. Thanks! — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh ) 23:00, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The discussion has come to a consensus to designate Cavallaro's publications as generally unreliable and phase out all citations of her work. I'd greatly appreciate people's help tagging and cleaning up on the many articles where she's been referenced. — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh ) 21:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

She is cited heavily on the following articles which will require heavy re-writing: Harizotoh9 (talk) 20:47, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Howl's Moving Castle (film) (GA)
 * Princess Mononoke
 * Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion (GA)
 * Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle (GA)
 * Weaving a Story (GA)
 * Misato Katsuragi (GA)
 * Neon Genesis Evangelion (GA)
 * Lilliputian Hitcher (GA)
 * Kaworu Nagisa (GA)
 * Splitting of the Breast (GA)
 * Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (film) (GA)
 * The End of Evangelion (GA)
 * Kiki's Delivery Service
 * List of Neon Genesis Evangelion movies
 * Kyoto Animation
 * The Day Tokyo-3 Stood Still (GA)
 * She said, "Don't make others suffer for your personal hatred." (GA)
 * Those women longed for the touch of others' lips, and thus invited their kisses (GA)
 * The Castle of Cagliostro (GA)
 * X (manga) (GA)
 * Syaoran (Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, clone) (GA)
 * Castle in the Sky (GA)
 * Rei Ayanami (GA)
 * Kimihiro Watanuki (GA)
 * Hedgehog's Dilemma (Neon Genesis Evangelion) (GA)
 * Both of You, Dance Like You Want to Win! (GA)
 * Shinji Ikari (GA)
 * The Beast (Neon Genesis Evangelion) (GA)

Grave of the Fireflies
A discussion regarding the plot summary for Grave of the Fireflies is taking place at Talk:Grave of the Fireflies. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 11:48, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Is it "Pretty Cure" or "PreCure"?
It seems some people want to change it from "Pretty Cure" to "PreCure", as shown by recent page name changes of Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure to "Soaring Sky! PreCure" and "Pretty Cure All Stars F to "PreCure All Stars F", with claims it is "misspelled". I have since moved the page names back. Should I start discussions on the talk pages of the affected articles (Talk:Soaring Sky! Pretty Cure and Talk:Pretty Cure All Stars F OR should I start a thread on Talk:Pretty Cure about this? It seems that TWO users are trying to determine the page name changes across ALL Pretty Cure pages on their own, as shown at Talk:Wonderful Pretty Cure! (there is now a page-name request there). In my opinion, there should be more eyes on this before it gets out of hand. Suggestions on how I should proceed would be appreciated.--Historyday01 (talk) 17:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Don't have advice, but there's probably a decent argument to be made that Precure is the common name for the franchise/series. Though, that's not what's being argued at that RM (it's hard to follow). Precure appears more in advertising, used more in the fandom, arguably used more in sources. Of course, I haven't done the legwork to actually verify whether that's true; this is just what I know about being around the anime fandom. Personally, I think it's fine to leave the pages at Pretty Cure until someone makes an argument that touches on some of those points. &#8213; Synpath 22:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, that's a good point. I did start a RfC about this, actually, at Talk:Pretty Cure, hoping to get some more eyes on this issue as it doesn't seem like there has been a discussion about it before (unless I missed it). Historyday01 (talk) 20:10, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, the source we have for the name (the Toei Animation website) says the name is PreCure. But it's a little inconsistent: most but not all of the text says the name of both the overall franchise and the individual series is PreCure, but most of the graphics and a few of the text titles use Pretty Cure. Oh, and the URL. (I note that the exceptions where the graphics and the text both agree a series is named PreCure are all very recent series, so this was likely a recent change.) Loki (talk) 02:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Honestly, that's what I found too, as it seems inconsistent... And I hope the RfC I created can, possibly, help: Talk:Pretty Cure Historyday01 (talk) 20:11, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

English Wikipedia page for seiyuu Yuko Iida
Hello!

I'm new to Wikipedia and wanted to add a translation for the already existing Japanese Wikipedia page of the voice actress Yuko Iida (飯田友子) but since I couldn't directly submit a translation, I made a new page which is currently pending review. I used the same template and content structure as other Wikipedia pages for Japanese voice actresses, as well as many of the resources listed by the corresponding Japanese Wikipedia page, but I wanted to let you guys know in case someone wants to take a look.

Sorry for the bother and thank you beforehand. I hope I can further contribute to the WikiProject! Link to the page is right here ->Draft:Yuko Iida MoonsideYasu (talk) 19:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * This isn't necessary, but I like to have a Japanese title and a translated title for such cases. So, if you use text editing, instead of using "title=", you'd use "script-title=ja:" for the original Japanese article names, and then add "trans-title=" for a translation of the title. Especially when it comes to articles like these where a majority (if not all) of the citations are in a separate language or you're transferring it over from a different WikiProject that only has non-English citations. It can be more of a pain to deal with, though, so again it's not a huge deal, but I would personally recommend it. Sarcataclysmal (talk) 09:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your reply @Sarcataclysmal! I really appreciate it
 * I see how it could be useful as well, I will definitely try to add it to the citations!
 * Thank you so much for letting me know once again. MoonsideYasu (talk) 14:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello!
 * Sorry it took longer than expected since I have been very busy working on a draft for Comiket, among other things.. I added the translation for the citation titles as kindly suggested by @Sarcataclysmal. I think it was a great idea and definitely helps someone not familiar with the original language of the source to have a more efficient understanding of it.
 * Since it has been a while, and I am afraid the number of submitted drafts within Wikipedia keep piling up, I was wondering if someone from the WikiProject could promptly review it and accept the submission if everything is alright. I would definitely be immensely grateful. The draft for the Wikipedia page is right here Draft:Yuko Iida.
 * Briefly after I submitted the draft for review, @Miraclepine contacted me about the draft but I am unsure if they ended up taking a look or not.
 * Sorry for the bother and thank you all so much beforehand. If there is anything I could change or improve please let me know as well!
 * I look forward to keep on working and helping with other pages among this WikiProject. MoonsideYasu (talk) 19:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I haven't had a chance to look at the draft, but since I was pinged, I would like to note that I didn't contact you about the draft; that was just a welcome message that happened to cite the draft as my reason for said message.
 * Also, speaking of waiting, Wikipedia is an all-volunteer project, so all editing here is dependent on both volition and free time, AFC decisions included. Since the backlog is at most three months (two times I wanted almost two months for a draft I submitted to be accepted), it would be best to be patient and wait for an AFC reviewer to decide. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:53, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Miraclepine Hello! Thanks for the quick reply.
 * I see, since I wasn't sure I thought it would be a nice idea to ping you but I deeply apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you so much for letting me know, since there is an already existing Japanese Wikipedia page for the voice actress but I couldn't submit a translation, I thought it wouldn't have to go through the process of determining if it's worth an article space. Please forgive me for my lack of knowledge.
 * Once again, thank you and I apologize for the the trouble caused. MoonsideYasu (talk) 23:59, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

From Five to Nine: merger discussion
There is a discussion taking place at Talk:5→9 From Five to Nine over merging From Five to Nine (manga) and 5→9 From Five to Nine. Your input is highly appreciated. lullabying (talk) 09:11, 16 June 2024 (UTC)