Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Antarctica Highways

Naming convention
What does the DOT use? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  04:18, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * We may have to refer to the Antarctic Treaty --TinMan 04:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Really? I thought the penguins were in charge of the roads. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  04:51, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The way I see it, we can either go by the semi-official name ("Antarctica Ice Highway X") or by the common name (insert penguin speak here). I prefer the former, personally. -- T M F T - C 04:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * According to this source:, the penguins are quite happy with Principle 2 --TinMan 05:06, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Argh...beaten by the "common name" supporters again... Maybe we can work out a compromise - how does fish for "Antarctica Ice Highway X" sound to the penguin folk? -- T M F T - C 05:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Better yet,  Penguin Path Z. This'll be sure to please both sides. -- T M F T - C 05:18, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think we'll have to use the "Penguin Path" terminology. The penguins' governmental employees unions use that terminology, and if you've ever dealt with them, you know that it's not a good idea to ever ruffle their feathers. Badbilltucker 18:48, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

SVGs
I couldn't find anything in the Antarctica MUTCD regarding shields (plus the one thing I did find about them was written in penguin-speak), so this will have to do. Hope the penguins approve... -- T M F T - C 05:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's even in the black and white penguin colors. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  05:42, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * This is the only shield I've found on Route 1. It doesn't seem to have a east/west or north/south orientation. It might be a beltway. --TinMan 14:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

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 * This project is a joke, it's not a real project... --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * shhh!  S tratosphere (U T) 06:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What should it be under? Politics (since it's penguin politics), Transportation, or whatever? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * HAHA. I don't know who put it there, but this Wikiproject is under Geograhpy/Antartcia of the Wikiproject Council Directory. Now that's funny.--TinMan 20:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Should we leave it there? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * lol, there is a big ass notice at the top of the page that it's a joke, not our fault if it's added... ;)  S tratosphere (U T) 21:40, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Let's just leave it there and see what happens :) --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:48, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

It's still there. ;) --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Road Rules
This is the only place in the world that I know of where sliding on your belly is an acceptable way to travel down the road. Does anyone know if they drive on the left or right side of the road? --TinMan 18:37, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I believe they drive right down the middle. Probably part of the reason Antarctica has the highest head-on collision rates (among penguins) in the world. -- NORTH talk 06:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The professional drivers have to follow the rules their base set up or they will be fired. It is expensive to travel home from Antarctica, and if you are fired the employer probably won't pay your trip home. Tourists follow the I-rule (I have right of way). --BIL (talk) 09:38, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Rush hour photo
Does anyone here know if this picture showing the perils of rush hour traffic is one we can use or not? John Carter 16:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It was created by the NOAA, so yes. ( [ →] zel zany  - new age roads) 16:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Uploaded at Image:Antarctica Route 1.jpg ( [ →] zel zany  - new age roads) 17:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I thought this was real
My, my.  Marlith  T / C  04:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Who said it wasn't? Apparently we didn't give someone enough hush money. --Triadian (talk) 07:15, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Does This Project Watch Any Articles?
And how many? Rau's talk 00:44, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, we watch lots of articles... but only because we're paranoid and think that the articles might be watching us... --Triadian (talk) 07:18, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

some day...
This might be a legitimate project. Me  what do u want?  Your Hancock Please  22:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Penguins

 * Would the penguins be a hindrance or a help to safe travel on the highways of Antarctica? --Candlewicke (Talk) 00:18, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Some rebellious penguin groups have been known to plant IEDs on Antarctican highways. In this case, a hindrance. --Triadian (talk) 00:30, 11 December 2008 (UTC) (Yes, I'm back to Wikipedia, but with stipulation.)
 * We tried to tell the President that the troops in Operation Polar Storm would be seen as occupiers, not liberators, but he's in the pocket of Big Herring. You can't force democracy on Emperor Penguins. - Dravecky (talk) 02:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Antarctica: Nomination for Deletion
I'm about to nominate the article "Antarctica" along with "Category: Antarctica" for deletion on the basis of WP:Notability. According to the guideline, "the topic of an article should be notable, or 'worthy of notice'". Antarctica, obviously, is none of those things. The world doesn't seem to care about it and it really doesn't care about the world. No real wars have even been fought there. Plus, while the rest of the world is going crazy about global warming, Antarctica is experiencing cooling. It's obviously not on Planet Earth. The article also fails the section about "received significant coverage"... when's the last time you saw a news reporter live from McMurdo Station? I would also challenge Antarctica on WP:Verifiability. I mean, have you actually been there? ...Exactly! For all we know, it could be a made up land: propaganda created by the penguins to keep humans away from their warm island paradise. The fat waddling birds are sipping on pina coladas laughing over their ingeniosity. The Antarctica article just doesn't have a place on Wikipedia... don't get me started on "The Moon". --Triadian (talk) 07:40, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Just as Tatooine is a notable fictional location in Star Wars, Antarctica is notable as a fictional location in Stargate: SG-1, Stargate Atlantis, Who Goes There?, and several other notable works. - Dravecky (talk) 08:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:NOT#PLOT
Apologies for the notice, but this is being posted to every WikiProject to avoid accusations of systemic bias. Hiding T 13:23, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * *snort* --Rschen7754 (T C) 08:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I think somebody's bot lost the plot over WP:NOT. Orderinchaos 03:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

The big question
Who owns all the gas stations? What are the gas prices like? D rew  S  mith     W  hat I've done  12:31, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * All I know is that the penguins run on an alternative fuel source of regurgitated fish. It's not cleaner, nor is it humane, but it beats the heck out of drilling for oil with your beak! --Triadian (talk) 03:31, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Which side?
See discussion at File talk:Countries driving on the left or right.svg Guy Macon (talk) 14:22, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * It depends on which area you'd be driving on. In other words, if you are an American in McMurdo Station you'd be forced to drive on the left side of the road. Mahahahahahaha. But anyway, good point. Alec scheat (talk) 07:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Avid viewers of Frozen Planet episode 2 will have noticed that penguins alternate between the American and British systems on different days. SmartSE (talk) 13:20, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

RFC on coordinates in highway articles
There is currently a discussion taking place at WT:HWY regarding the potential use of coordinates in highway articles. Your input is welcomed. --Rschen7754 01:35, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Toll roads?
Are any of Antarctica's highways toll roads? And if there are any, do toll booths include E-Z Pass lanes, or does everything have to be paid in fish? —Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 18:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject template
I went to add to the talkpage of Penguin (just for a start), but it turns out we have no such template! Somebody create it, please? darwin fish 10:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC).
 * There is. User:ACBest/WikiProject Antartica Highways. You can just stick that guy in brackets - - and use away. Not sure if it will actually do anything, though... VanIsaacWScontribs 02:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Mmmm… thanks, but no. When I tried it, it just showed the project template — "This article is within the scope of" etc — very nice, as such — but the parameters referring to class and importance rating don't do anything. I suppose you can't just stick 'em in there and hope for template magic, but would have to create the whole thing first. Still, why not stick ACBest's template, as is, on a few relevant articles? darwin fish 20:12, 11 June 2012 (UTC).

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 * Thank you for your offers of tools and layout, mr Harej, but I think WikiProject Antarctica Highways is very well maintained just as it is. My experience of it is more good than bad: a little frightening because of the fish-eating penguins, but also exhilarating. I don't get many chances to feel useful on Wikipedia, but here I do.  darwin fish 00:44, 15 January 2015 (UTC).

Atlantis?
If Atlantis is ever found to be located under the ice of Antarctica, will historical roads there fall under the scope of this project? Will we need a separate task force for that? Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 09:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Looking for confirmation
I've heard a rumor that the Antarctic Treaty Secretariat is proposing construction of an Antarctic Beltway, to be designated Antarctica Route 0, a (mostly) overland (atop-ice) passage around the circumference of the continent, connecting all the coastal stations belonging to treaty members. Construction preparation is supposedly to begin in summer (late 2015) with extensive surveys and glacial stability testing. I hear the first leg to be worked on is the critical McMurdo Bypass, which will relieve the town of the burden of the heavy through-traffic six months of the year.

Is there any truth to the other rumor that the penguins are demanding submission of an environmental impact report before the plan can be approved? Evensteven (talk) 21:42, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The penguin request has been received, but due to language difficulties, it is unclear if the report will be delivered. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 02:04, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I contacted Duolingo, the online language-learning program, to ask if they could locate speakers of Penguinese, but the process promises to take some considerable time. Looks like some project delays might be forthcoming. Evensteven (talk) 06:10, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Apparently there are millions of native speakers of Penguinese, each fluent in one of several dialects, but apparently finding those qualified to offer translation services, even at a rudimentary level of expertise, is exceedingly difficult. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 19:41, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Quite so! And I hear now that there are some internal squabbles about some wanting the report to appear in the Emperor's Penguinese, while others prefer the Polar dialect. There's talk about organizing a March. Evensteven (talk) 20:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I've seen a couple news reports about how some of them are demanding an increase in the minimum wage down there as well. I have a feeling that the Antarctica Federation of Government Employees is probably involved in this in a big way. John Carter (talk) 20:43, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Regarding a march, it's been done before: I've heard it's a regular part of the political scene down there. Regarding their minimum wage: They know how to earn more fish. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 21:15, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I saw that documentary too. But they'll have to pick their route well, 'cause the annual father/child rookery-to-coast walk-a-thon is getting underway. And I suppose the AFGE thinks it might have an inside track on getting construction contracts. They are experts at snow jobs, after all. Maybe they're fishing around for added support for union wage hikes too. Evensteven (talk) 21:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Only time will tell. I think the marches will continue, probably every year, as this seems to be the limits of their patience.  Thankfully, the marches are peaceful. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 22:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

And John, I do believe that you were in on the ground floor of this project. Has it turned out to be everything you expected? Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 22:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The best part about this group is that there seem to be a lot fewer edit wars than a lot of the other projects. I suppose the "fingers" issue might be a factor in that. John Carter (talk) 22:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Welcome new member
Welcome new member, CoffeeRansacked2, to one of the most under-staffed projects in Wikipedia. Please feel free to look around and help where you can ;) Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 20:16, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Project member Dravecky died a few days ago
died last Saturday, April 23. See his talk page for details.

He is listed as a member of this WikiProject. I will leave it up to his fellow WikiProject participants to decide when it would be appropriate to remove him from the list of active participants.

Unfortunately, unlike some other parts of this WikiProject, this is not a joke. I wish it were. Ed, you will be missed. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  20:31, 27 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Because of the nature of this project, there is no reason to remove him from the participant list. If/when maintaining the list becomes problematic, this issue can be revisited. Etamni &#124; &#9993; &#124; ✓ 01:13, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

New Resource
Meetup/Antarctica I hope you all attend the first meeting at Antarctic Road 1.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 00:42, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

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Idea on way to cause maximum disruption
Move this to prefix its name with "humorous" and try to start an actual WikiProject for roads in Antarctica. However, I would not be able to help with this endeavour. (Please ignore this, I'm just grmbling about how this isn't a real WIkiProject.) Ellenor2000 (talk) 07:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)