Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anthroponymy/Archive 3

Scope of Archive3: Individual Names / Individual Articles &mdash; discussion of individual articles or small closely related articles in a group. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Franz Xaver
Dear anthroponomists, please can we figure out which of the six different pages Franz Xaver, Francis Xavier, Xaver, Xavier, Xavier (name) and Javier (name) should be combined? For example, at the moment if you got to Franz Xaver you get a list of people with those forenames, but no explanation that they're all named after Francis Xavier. —Blotwell 02:53, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that this is an issue that this project needs to confront. Does anyone have any suggestions for how we should merge various name pages. Remember 19:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, here goes:
 * Francis Xavier redirects to St. Francis Xavier, an article about the person, which is fine.
 * Xavier (name) and Javier (name) overlap. Merge and redirect as Xavier (name), because more of the content is about Xavier than Javier.
 * Cut the list of people named Xavier from Xavier, and paste into the merged article Xavier (name). Make Xavier a pure disambiguation page.
 * Merge and redirect Xaver to Franz Xaver for the reason stated in it.
 * Include See also links between the articles where appropriate. - Fayenatic (talk) 22:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Make it so. Remember 23:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

List of Japanese names AfD
Of possible interest to this project, since the page is listed as being in its purvue, is Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Japanese_names. —Quasirandom 15:52, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Active discussion about category hierarchy for surnames
Members of this WikiProject may well be interested enough to join in at Category talk:Surnames, except those who are only interested in given names! - Fayenatic (talk) 18:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion tag
An article I was working on, Fitzmorris, was just tagged for speedy deletion. I gave a response for keeping the surname article on its Talk page, but I'd appreciate other voices in support of keeping the article. Please make those comments on the Fitzmorris Talk page. Thank you. Rosiestep (talk) 06:39, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Good news! Article was saved from deletion. Rosiestep (talk) 15:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Fitzname naming convention
Is there a policy statement on Fitzname article naming?
 * I've created a few surname articles with the suffix lower case (for example, Fitzduncan, Fitzhugh, Fitzmaurice, Fitzmorris, Fitzstephen).
 * I believe the better spelling would be with the suffix as a captial letter (for example, FitzGerald).
 * Note, no space between prefix/suffix, and no hyphen (though we should include "Fitzname", "Fitz Name", "fitz Name", "Fitz-Name" people within the article proper).

I also posted this question on the Fitz talk page. Rosiestep (talk) 21:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)


 * "Use common names" is a principle that would apply here. As long as the great majority of people spell these names with the suffix in lower case, we should do likewise (even if doing so may not be strictly correct). -- Visviva (talk) 08:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Great answer. Thanks. Rosiestep (talk) 19:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Kaveh (given name)
It appears that "Kaveh" could be represented as a given name either as a subsection of Kaveh or as an article Kaveh (name). I did not want to create the article or add the section myself, but wanted to bring it to your attention as I ran across it. See this search for articles with the prefix 'Kaveh' as a starting point. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 15:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Additional article category added
I have created Category:Non-article Anthroponymy pages, which accommodates articles that have been talk-page tagged with. The typical content would be redirects, though I see that one wikiproject category page has been so tagged. Please indicate here if you have comments or objections to this category creation or use of the 'class = NA' parameter. Regards, User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC).

Perhaps a problem with quality and importance parameter interpretations
Please see Talk:Collins (surname)/Comments for my response to an editor on this matter. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 03:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Eighth 'top' importance article
When I took a look at Williams (surname), I found that it had not been banner-tagged nor assessed. I have assessed it as start-top, bringing the top count to 8 and the start-top count to 2. I wonder, though, whether William (name) and Williams (surname) should be merged and a list page prepared for biography link content .. or perhaps a category for biographies as the list could eventually be mightily long. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 16:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Ian
Could one of you take a look at Ian. It looks like a surname page that we might want to add/split off a dab page. Not sure. Someone just trimmed it significantly. . . (John User:Jwy talk) 06:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The content removed by the IP-anon has been restored (not by me). "Ian" appears to be one of those rare short words that is used as a human name exclusively.  I would suggest that precedent be bent in this case so that the creation of a disambiguation page is not done; i.e. let's leave the human names and fictional names together.  If non-name uses of Ian or IAN emerge or are found, a dab page can be created thereafter and all the fictional Ians could be offloaded to that new page. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 11:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK? candidate
Taylor and Taylor (surname) were listed as "Articles needing attention" on our project page; I did those edits 2/2/2008. That led me to Taylor (name) (now Taylor sept), an article about a Scottish clan branch and its namebearer, (namebearer split out into Donald Cameron ('Taillear Dubh na Tuaighe'). I didn't put the Anthroponymy template on Donald's Talk page, but I think it might belong as it shows the evolution of a nickname into a surname.  Any comments?  The Donald article is also a 2/3/2008 selfnom for "DYK?".  Any feedback about that would also be appreciated.  Thanks. Rosiestep (talk) 22:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * comment added at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clans of Scotland --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 11:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

'Did you know' candidate? ... Ryan (given name)
I have suggested at Talk:Ryan (given name) that Ryan (given name) might meet the criterion for inclusion in the 'Did you know' information set. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Herzog
Anyone interested in extracting out the name description info at Herzog (a necessary dab page) to an appropriate name article? Speaking of names, I had a hard time finding this project, though I knew it existed, because of the rare project name. . . . (John User:Jwy talk) 04:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I did, and then CorenBot slapped me upside the edit window for stealing someone else's copy. Now I can't see the alleged source, due to corporate web-choking, but the ref is on my talk page. I guess I'll take a look from a different machine later, if nobody beats me to it. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help. And no worries.  The linked site owner was kind enough to say:
 * "This article is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. It uses material from the Wikipedia article "Herzog_"." (John User:Jwy talk) 23:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

FAR for Korean name
Korean name has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Kaypoh (talk) 02:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I made a couple of minor fixes on the article and quite a few copyedits on the References; also, clustered References and External Links by language. Rosiestep (talk) 23:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The outcome of the FAR and FARC were to downgrade the article from FAR to B-Class. I have placed a question about best-practice related to re-classing articles that have lost their FA classification through FAR/FARC; see Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)