Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Apple Inc./Archive 3

Articles for deletion/Apple.com
FYI. Airplaneman  ✈  02:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Priorities
Hey guys, the assessment drive is good and all, but I think we need to (metaphorically) sit down and strategize. Firstly, we need to talk about our scope, because if we decide that certain types of articles are not within what we want to cover, then we save time by not assessing them. Looking at our Featured Articles, all but the first four of 25 FAs are video games that just happen to run on the Macintosh, that we did nto contribute to nor ever will. This is ridiculous (and I might wind up fixing it myself). More to the point, I have worked very hard to make Macintosh a featured article. I defended it, single handedly, from being delisted about a year ago. Now it is up for a second FARC. If it is delisted, it will be even harder to re-list it. I went through a stage of wanting to tag everything with a template; everyone does. So please, lend the old timer your ears - don't fall into the trap of setting up red tape and gathering data you'll never use. Let's pull together on the time-sensitive issue, stop bickering over templates and color schemes on templates, and improve an article. Please. HereToHelp (talk to me) 04:00, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree completely that we've spent enough time on the layout of these pages! WP:DEW!!!!!!!!  This is not a social session; let's actually work on some articles.  Right now our collaboration is Macintosh, let's do some work.  HTH, could you set up a list of things that need to be done for Macintosh to keep it a FA?--   m o n o   04:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Basically, anything pointed out on the FARC page that hasn't been addressed. I think the biggest roadblock is referencing legacy model tech specs, which is why I made cite mac (see above). HereToHelp (talk to me) 04:37, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * So we can use everymac for sourcing? Airplaneman   ✈  21:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. We can.--   m o n o   00:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Or more importantly, we're going to, because there's no way to cite legacy specs in a way that is uniform, accessible, reliable, and neutral (non-commercial) better than this. HereToHelp (talk to me) 02:24, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking forward to it! This way, we can hopefully save Macintosh (I will get back to work once I know what to do with the refs!) and possibly push MacBook Pro to FA as well (concerns for a future FA were Apple refs). Airplaneman   ✈  03:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

←MB has a good shot at FA; MBA should be GA by end of summer; MBP is good as well.--  m o n o   04:10, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Apple Inc./Assessment
I've created the assessment department, as the main page was getting a bit crowded. Please improve if you can :). Airplaneman   ✈  18:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Found WikiProject iPhone OS/Article grading. I think it should be moved or merged to the current one so we can have one central assessment dept. Airplaneman   ✈  19:18, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

MobileMe article was updated as requested.
✅  Dwayne   was here! ♫ 22:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I will re-assess.--   m o n o   00:52, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Re-assessed to C class. Airplaneman   ✈  01:03, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Assessment Template Rebuild
I rebuilt the Assessment Template for the project. Let me know if there are any errors.--  m o n o   01:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Macintosh 128K/512K technical details
FYI. Airplaneman  ✈  04:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Discussion at User_talk:Airplaneman#Assessment_of_Redirects
You are invited to join the discussion at. m o n o  18:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC) (Using )

Split discussion at Jonathan Ive
Please see here for more information. Airplaneman  ✈  22:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Changes to assessment template
I'd like to propose adding the code at User:EdoDodo/TemplateSandbox to our assessment template. This addition will place Apple Inc. articles in categories based on their B checklist, by areas needing attention, as well as place articles with incomplete B checklists in a category for checking. If there are no objections and a few people agree then I'll add the code later today. - EdoDodo  talk 15:16, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - all for it! Airplaneman   ✈  16:41, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Careful Support: I looked through the ParserFunctions (anyone who doesn't know what that means, see here)and it should work. Make sure all the categories are created, then placed in a main category.  If it breaks, we'll revert and discuss.--   m o n o   17:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I have done intensive testing in my sandbox and the template always performed as expected. The categories have already been created and placed in a parent category in preparation for the code addition. - EdoDodo  talk 17:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Proceeding to add code, per discussion above, will revert and discuss if something breaks. - EdoDodo  talk 17:39, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I have finished implementing this and adding the code. The addition went mostly smoothly, the categories should be populated soon. The only small thing that went wrong was that I hadn't considered that "no" could also be written as "No", "n" or "N", so the template didn't account for this. It does now, so should work in all cases. If any of you spot any other mistakes or can improve the code in anyway then feel free to make edits, or drop me a message on my talk page and I will sort out problems as soon as possible. - EdoDodo  talk 17:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, sounds good! Airplaneman   ✈  19:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Further improved the template for more cases I hadn't considered (eg. project and file pages don't need checklists), moved it to a separate template to keep the main project banner template clean, and created new categories to browse articles that only have ONE issue. - EdoDodo  talk 15:41, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Cite mac
, a dedicated citation template for Macintosh tech specs, is ready for use! Airplaneman  ✈  03:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

WWDC
Members: be prepared for a sudden surge of vandalism and junk on iPhone-related articles, as iPhone 4 has just been released. m o n o  18:38, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * My eyes are peeled :)   Dwayne   was here!   &#9835;  18:53, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Apple File Security article was created as requested.
✅  Dwayne   was here! &#9835; 18:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

BigTop article was created as requested.
✅  Dwayne   was here! &#9835; 19:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

The Accessibility Verifier article has been created as requested.
✅  Dwayne   was here! &#9835; 18:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It appears Mono tagged it for PROD. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 18:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did. I also fixed the other ones.   mo no so ck   19:10, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

iPhone announcements
Okay, I know there is a lot of chaos, and a lot of anons getting involved. Please be civil, remember that there is no deadline, and wait for the dust to settle. HereToHelp (talk to me) 20:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, and then we'll fix it.  m o n o   21:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Since iPhone OS is now iOS, should we rename our task force? ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 21:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 21:55, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

See Talk:IPhone as well for a discussion on whether or not to mention prototypes in the article. Airplaneman  ✈  22:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The prototype secction has been moved to History of the iPhone. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 18:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Announcement
Hello members, i deal with article creation & article requests in the project and i realized that Personal Filing System is on the requests list. I cannot find any sources on that. I don't even think that exists. I cant find any sources through Google, i have also checked the Apple Developer's Website as i have an Apple ID to login and check. Should i remove this from the requests? Dwayne  was here! &#9835; 19:04, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, and you don't have to post every time you create an article.  m o n o   21:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Why not? It brings it to the attention of other editors and can only be beneficial. Airplaneman   ✈  22:41, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly :P  Dwayne   was here!   &#9835;  02:30, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Announcements

 * We'll be checking the activity of all members at the end of June. Inactive members will be removed.
 * Apple File Security has been nominated for deletion.
 * I have subscribed to a variety of bots for the project. They will find:
 * New articles
 * Articles with cleanup tags
 * Recognized content

Thanks, — m o n o   04:36, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Book:Apple Inc. and Book:Mac OS were created by me. Feel free to make some more (iOS, iPod, etc.)
 * Members should focus on improving Macintosh and working on the "things to do" backlog.
 * Let's try and recruit some more members, if possible.
 * A Signpost article is scheduled to cover the Assessment Department's recent backlog elimination drive.

Assessment template problems
I've noticed spacing problems when is placed in banner shells such as, there is come space below it. Examples: I will take a look into it, but I am not experienced with template coding. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Airplaneman   ✈  20:18, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Talk:MacBook Air
 * Talk:MacBook Pro
 * Talk:Mac Pro
 * Talk:MacBook
 * I suspect this may be because of my code addition, since the rest of the template is very standard and I doubt it would cause problems. I've asked for input at WP:Requested Templates. - EdoDodo  talk 06:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that fixed it - let me know if there are further problems. -- Ludwigs 2  08:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * whoops - I should point out that the actual problem was in the subtemplate WikiProject Apple Inc./ChecklistCategorization. The whole template seems overly complex, really.  would you mind if I took the time to clean up the code?  -- Ludwigs 2  13:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing the problem and feel free to make any changes you see fit, I realize that it is a bit complicated but I couldn't think of a simpler way of doing it. Happy coding. - EdoDodo  talk 15:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * is there any other kind of coding? -- Ludwigs 2  15:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing this, guys! :) Airplaneman   ✈  02:57, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Inherit B-Class Checklists
Hey everyone! There are still a fair bit of B and C class articles with incomplete B-Class Checklists, and it may be a good idea to do a backlog elimination drive (similar to the assessment one we did a few weeks back) for them. However, before doing that, I was wondering if it would be fine with everyone if I ran DodoBot through that category and inherited B-Class checklists from other WikiProjects (as in, if they've filled in the checklist and we havn't, copy it over). It's a feature I'm working on, but is fairly similar to what the bot has done in the past, so shouldn't take too long. Any thoughts on this? - EdoDodo  talk 06:46, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support – yes, anything to clear that backlog! :) Airplaneman   ✈  23:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Overly enthusiastic support: I felt obligated to say yes, so yes. Great.    m o no   pending changes begin june 15 01:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, after 5+ hours of coding to get it to work flawlessly I run a check of the number of articles that will be affected and... 8 articles. Ah well, guess it could be useful for other projects in the future. I've asked for approval to run it, as it is a new task for this bot. Should be going through them some time soon. - EdoDodo  talk 08:48, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done Only eight articles was kind of disappointing, but I guess this will function as a test run to then do it for this for other WikiProjects, or at a later date when there's more checklists around. - EdoDodo  talk 17:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, 8 is better than 0! And yes, this will be useful for other projects. Airplaneman   ✈  17:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * EdoDodo: I see a lot of non-WikiProject Apple Inc. templates. Could you run DodoBot to replace WikiProject Macintosh and macprojectarticle with WikiProject Apple Inc.?   mo no so ck   20:22, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply, I missed your message. While I would be happy to do it alongside other tasks (as I did when inheriting checklists), I think that doing that alone would be seen as a waste of server resources (sure, it can cause a small bit of confusion but it doesn't really change much), so I won't do it unless there is very strong consensus that it would be useful. - EdoDodo  talk 17:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Myst (series) inclusion
Hey all, going back to that little chat we had about video games—want to tag the Myst games as scope or not? I only bring it up because the images (all taken on Macs) are being tagged by the bot. They all received a concurrent Mac release, although only the first game was released on Mac exclusively at launch. It's not like they particularly need shepherding (I got them all to GA/FA a long time ago), just wonderin'. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 12:42, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be OK with tagging the main article and the first game for this project (and also for WP:MAC). Cross-platform games don't really need to be included in this project, but I've been tagging Mac-only games. I would suggest low importance for both this project and the Mac task force. Airplaneman   ✈  13:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I would agree with Airplaneman on this one, however if there is consensus for tagging the other games as well (since they are part of a series that originated as Mac, and are still Mac games) then I would be fine with that as well (all at low-importance, of course). - EdoDodo  talk 14:25, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. I went ahead and tagged Myst and Myst (series). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 20:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid of establishing a precedent - I don't think games should be a part of the project, but I know that Myst is special; the first game was even developed on Macs. That first game has also been released on iPhone iOS, so tag it accordingly. HereToHelp (talk to me) 21:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Why don't you think they belong? It's hardly an exhaustive list, and we can be choosy. Games and game companies such as Bungie were hugely important—Halo: Combat Evolved was touted by Jobs as the resurrection of the Mac as a gaming platform (and perhaps it would have if Microsoft had not turned the game into an Xbox exclusive), for example. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 00:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we agree; I just failed to communicate. Hand-picked games that are historic and who talk about the Macintosh or iPhone are fine. I oppose blanket listing of games that just happen to be available on the Mac, since that would give us way too many to be manageable, and they'd be totally tangential to our project. Is that what you mean by "be choosey"? HereToHelp (talk to me) 00:15, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ←More or less... I'm certainly not advocating grabbing every game that happens to be on Mac, just ones with more of a connection beyond that. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 00:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. HereToHelp (talk to me) 01:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

NA Class Assessment
I noticed that a lot of our articles are assessed as NA class, while we actually have more specific categories for most of them (Category:Image-Class Apple Inc. articles, Category:Category-Class Apple Inc. articles, etc.). Would you guys be fine with me running DodoBot through them to assess them correctly? - EdoDodo  talk 14:48, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and while I'm doing that I will also standardize our assessment banner to on the articles I go through, as requested by Mono (as I mentioned above, I will only do this if I am also making another edit alongside it). - EdoDodo  talk 16:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do. Airplaneman   ✈  18:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yay! — m o n o   21:41, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

✅ Categories and Templates are done, bot is just finishing off Images. - EdoDodo  talk 06:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW, Category:Unknown-importance Apple Inc. articles looks a bit scary at the moment. Airplaneman   ✈  13:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, there are a lot of unknown importance articles. Perhaps some of these could be automatically assessed by my bot (for example tagging all unknown-importance articles in Category:Mac OS games as low importance). If you guys would be fine with automatic importance assessment then I'll study the categories a bit more in-depth and propose some kind of plan. As well as this I suggest removing bottom and no importance, because these are highly non-standard (used by less than 10 WikiProjects), and are not recognized by the bot that creates the assessment table, so will not show up properly. In addition to this, there are no current uses of bottom-importance, and all uses of no-importance are incorrect (it should only be used for disambig and redirects, the articles currently in there should all be moved to low importance, which my bot could do if there is consensus for removing it). -  EdoDodo  talk 14:25, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * All of the above sounds good. I have no objections. Airplaneman   ✈  19:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. — m o n o

I have removed bottom and no importance, as agreed above. All articles that were no importance have been moved to low importance. As for automatic assessing of importance I would like to invite you all to take a look at User:DodoBot/AppleImportance. Discussion on the current suggestions, as well as more suggestions are all very welcome. - EdoDodo  talk 19:39, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Macintosh FAR
For those who don't know, Macintosh has been nominated for delisting of featured status. After an exhaustive battle with little enthusiasm (blame iPhone, and iPod is even worse off), I'm ready to call it quits. I thought I'd make an announcement here first. (Next question: do we call it A-class or go for a GA nom?) HereToHelp (talk to me) 02:28, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

My inactivity
Hello everyone, please don't mind my inactivity on the project, I'm on a short wikibreak and I'm editing on and off. Although I don't believe that there is anything on the requests list. Thanks,  Dwayne   was here! &#9835; 19:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Since there was already this section, I'm adding that I too am leaving until mid-August. Try not to let things erode too much while I'm away. HereToHelp (talk to me) 04:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup on Apple Campus has been completed.
✅  Dwayne   was here! &#9835; 20:00, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Collab
What do you want to be the next collaboration? Please suggest items here. — m o n o   00:21, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * While it was already collaborated, I say that the next project is to bring Apple Inc. back to GA status. GamerPro64 (talk) 02:20, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Or Macintosh. Either would be fine with me. Airplaneman   ✈  Review? 02:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with both. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 21:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I believe Macintosh is passable at GAN, so I nommed it. Apple Inc. sounds good to me... — m o n o   23:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree, Apple Inc. is probably a better choice... Ryan Norton 04:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

possible mergers...
Result was: '''Merge Happy Mac, Sad Mac, Chimes of Death, Chime (Macintosh) and other Mac startup behavior to "Mac startup" for now, rename if necessary later. Merge utility stubs on Mac OS X to Mac OS X Utilities. — m o n o  04:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Tentative inks for proposed articles: OS X Utilities, Macintosh startup behaviors

I have two possible mergers in mind. happy to do it if there is some consensus these would be good mergers. -- Ludwigs 2 06:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * merging Happy Mac, Sad Mac, Chimes of Death, Chime (Macintosh) and others into one page on Mac startup behaviors (including other info, like startup key combos)
 * merging most of the utility stubs you can find on Mac OS X into one article called 'OS X utilities'
 * Those both sound like good ideas... what would we call the combined chimes/status article though? "Mac startup"? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 21:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * yeah, I was thinking something like that, though I'll be the first to admit that 'Macintosh startup behaviors' aint too sexy as titles go. I'm open to any better suggestion. Though I suppose I could do the merge and redirects under that name; we can always move the page later.  -- Ludwigs 2  00:35, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support all – as for a name suggestion, I think the name you have best describes the topic. What are we going to do with the infoboxes and screenshots, though? Airplaneman   ✈  Review? 02:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Keep the important ones. — m o n o   04:32, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok. I'll try to plow through the mergers tomorrow. I'll keep all the screenshots, and try to merge the infoboxes as best I can - we can add or prune as needed after. -- Ludwigs 2 05:40, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support both but I prefer Mac OS X Utilities for consistency. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 13:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support all but as per above I prefer Mac OS X Utilities for consistency. RN 02:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Multiple merge discussions
Located at Talk:Apple Magic Trackpad. Your input is needed! Airplaneman  ✈  02:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Macintosh startup created
… but I'm having difficulty writing a good lead. Please help improve! Airplaneman  ✈  22:05, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

External links for Apple product articles
Transferred from User talk:Mono — m o n o   19:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC) Hi Mono,

Since you are the coordinator for the Apple Inc. Wiki Project Group, I figured I should just communicate with you directly instead of posting messages on 21 Apple related Talk pages.

I was curious if I could enlist the help of either yourself or other editors from the Apple Inc. Wiki Project team. I have a conflict of interest of posting about Apple products since I am employed by iFixit. I want to be able to provide quality content to multiple Apple product articles on Wikipedia, but I would be contributing from a biased point of view.

If you, or another editor from the wiki project team, could please check out my user page, all of the information and reasonings of mine are posted there.

Straife (talk) 00:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, coordinator is not supreme content director (we use consensus, not dictatorship), but I'll still help. Face-angel.svg Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, iFixit doesn't appear to be reliable (no offense; reliable=peer reviewed and stuff), which leads me to believe that the addition of external links would not benefit the quality of the article (If the link is relevant, helpful and informative, it should be included). As I'm not familiar with the product/service, (maybe it is reliable) I can't exactly determine where these might be appropriate. I know you'll find a good deal of similar sites in external links sections, however, these sites really aren't helpful and shouldn't be there. You mentioned that the site was referenced in WP articles already, and this basically shows that the user who added it had to "crowdsource" from a "knowledge wiki". — m o n o   00:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the quick response. In terms of reliability (peer review etc*) iFixit is not always 100% accurate in its content, since it is both contributed by community members and employees with both parties providing varying levels of quality consistency. iFixit's content goes through a peer screening process before a guide can actually be viewed by all visitors to the website. However, I only provided a list of iFixit repair manuals that were of a high enough quality to be worth linking to from a Wikipedia article. Since you are not familiar with our content, would you be able to pose my request to the rest of the Apple Wiki Project team? I am sure that someone in the project team has heard of iFixit and would be able to determine if my suggestions are valid.

I am not attempting to promote any products that iFixit sells (replacement parts and tools). I am merely trying to share the content/knowlede that iFixit provides at no cost. If a Wikipedia editor finds a source that has easier to follow instructions, better quality images, and less paid ads on a website, I would have no qualms with them choosing to not link to iFixit repair manuals. I just feel that it is important for Wikipedia readers to have access to knowledge about how to repair the electronic device they are reading about. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this subject.

Straife (talk) 08:23, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll bring this to the project discussion page. — m o n o   19:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Transferred from User talk:Mono — m o n o   19:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject UserBox
I'm still new to editing Wikipedia, but I would like to help out with this WikiProject. Apple is one of my favorite companies. How do you get the WikiProject UserBox? Leet Sher (talk) 16:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * To place the WikiProject Apple Inc. userbox on your userpage, simply copy and paste the following code onto your userpage:
 * This will also automatically add you to Category:WikiProject Apple Inc. members. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 17:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * This will also automatically add you to Category:WikiProject Apple Inc. members. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 17:31, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Ircle
Ircle could use some expansion if someone here has the time to put into it. Google books alone turns up quite a bit of material. There is also the whole mIRC vs Ircle bit that could also be covered. --Tothwolf (talk) 20:59, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

New Barnstar
How is this? --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 15:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * iLike. Airplaneman   ✈  00:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good. - EdoDodo  talk 02:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Weekly IRC discussion
Would anyone be interested in creating a weekly live discussion on IRC at a fixed time regarding the project? — m o n o  04:14, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I don't know. It sounds like a good idea, but just how many people will be on? I for one cannot promise to be on at the same time every week. I'm on Wikipedia quite often as of the past year, but have used IRC a grand total of one time. I think it is also a bit misleading to add "To talk right now, join our chatroom" just because we don't have members on IRC 24/7. Questions will be found just as if not more quickly here via members' watchlists. But this reminds me - how about a newsletter? Airplaneman   ✈  04:25, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I started the idea at WP:APPLE/O, but I'm really pushing my copyediting skills to the limit right now (7 articles at a time); maybe early August. Want to help? — m o n o   04:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes! Airplaneman   ✈  05:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This sounds like a good idea, but there may be issues with timezones. Anyway, if you want to give it a go I'll be happy to come along, I'm on IRC like 12 hours a day anyway. - EdoDodo  talk 06:48, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to come, i'm always in IRC.  Dwayne   was here!   &#9835;  06:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to come too. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 01:24, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Updates
 ℳ ono   19:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Collaboration ideas at Talk:Apple_Inc..
 * Macintosh GAR at Good_article_reassessment/Macintosh/1.
 * IRC chat time (around 24-2 UTC?) to be discussed.

New hardware template
Hi everyone! I’ve been working on a new Apple hardware navbox. My goal is to consolidate and simplify the current navboxes (Apple hardware; Apple hardware before 1998; Apple hardware since 1998) by listing all the product families, but not necessarily all the members of each family. Some current templates have done this and the result is a large navbox with links to many non-existant articles.

As a part of this project, I have created articles (from sections of the main article) and stubs gathering many similar models of Apple products (PowerBook 100 series; Power Macintosh (first generation); Power Macintosh (second generation); Power Macintosh 5000 series; Power Macintosh 6400 series). I also hope to consolidate articles about the various models (like the Macintosh II and Macintosh Quadra families).

I’ve kept the navbox ideas in one of my subpages, because it’s a work in progress. I welcome comments and suggestions. I’ve haven’t yet collaborated on Wikipedia, so please be gentle. Thanks! Jonathan Holbert (contributions; mail; talk) 20:23, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi there, nice work! I have changed the Mac section to use subgroups, since in my opinion that's a cleaner solution. I hope you don't mind, and if you disagree with me, by all means, feel free to revert me, it's in your userspace afterall :). - EdoDodo  talk 01:06, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoa, that's a much better template! Airplaneman   ✈  16:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Nice work. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 17:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! This is still a work in progress. I still don’t know how I feel about the subgroups, but until I think of something different, it’s better than what I had. Being my first big collaborative effort on Wikipedia, I am curious how I would propose submitting a future version of this navbox to be used on all Apple hardware articles — Jonathan Holbert (talk) 17:28, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Apple Inc. articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

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Macintosh articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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We would like to ask you to review the Macintosh articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a rhombus symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!

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Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Justine Ezarik/1
Be advised that there is a reconsideration of a delisting going on at Good article reassessment/Justine Ezarik/1.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

iOS & Apple TV
Many articles, such as Apple TV, iOS (Apple), and iOS version history show the Apple TV running iOS. None of those statements are sourced, and it isn't mentioned anywhere on Apple's website. Should these statements be removed from the articles? ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  21:01, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Whether or not it's source in the articles is one matter, but it's fairly clear by a quick google search that it does run a version of iOS. (e.g., ). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 21:07, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing
I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, [http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListing.php?project=Apple_Inc. this project's listing in one big table] or [http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListingByCat.php?project=Apple_Inc. by categories] and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Invitation to participate!
Hello! As you may be aware, the Wikimedia Foundation is gearing up for our annual fundraiser. We want to hit our goal, and hit it as soon as possible, so that we can focus on Wikipedia's tenth anniversary (January 15) and on our new project, the Contribution Team.

I'm posting across WikiProjects to engage you, the community, in working to build Wikipedia not only through financial donations, but also through collaboration in building content. You can find more information in Philippe Beaudette's memo to the communities here.

Please visit the Contribution Team page and the Fundraising page to find out how you can help us support and spread free knowledge. ǝɥʇ M0N0 22:17, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

RfC on the use of terminology like “GiB” (gibibyte) on Wikipedia
Notice: An RFC is being conducted here at Talk:Hard diskdrive#RFC on the use of the IEC prefixes. The debate under consideration is the use in this table of the “Hard disk drive” article of nomenclature such as “KiB”, “MiB”, and “GiB” to describe capacities. The governing guideline on MOSNUM is Quantities of bytes and bits. The quality of the discussion can be improved by broadening participation of the discussion. This will hopefully more fully achieve a consensus. Greg L (talk) 17:55, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Stub that needs attention
Neon Play's article is probably notable, but it needs wikification. Steven Walling 22:19, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

final cut express discontinued, update template
no longer available as final cut pro x is only $300.

this leaves logic studio (and express) and filemaker pro as the last for-pay software still available from apple exclusively outside their app store. logic studio express will probably be discontinued when logic studio is released for the app store so the prosumer category will disappear.

other problems with the template:

1. facetime missing under bundled software.

2. ios apps made by apple are nowhere to be found. apple develops 13 iphone apps of which 10 are universal (ipad as well) some are paid and some are free. these would make great additions to the template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.130.131 (talk) 08:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

iTunes movie charts
Is it possible to find online iTunes movie charts for romance and independent movies? All I can find is the general chart.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Moving Numbers (software)
If you Google "numbers spreadsheet" you will not find the article here on the Wiki. Is there any naming guide that says the article should be Numbers (software) and not Numbers (spreadsheet) or something similar? Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:46, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The appropriate place for the question is at Talk:Numbers (software). HereToHelp (talk to me) 01:01, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Apple University
should Apple University be created? The corporate university has been in the news lately for keeping Steve Job's flame alive at Apple. 70.24.247.61 (talk) 05:42, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Steve Jobs logo
I found: It discusses Jonathan Mak Long's fame regarding his Steve Jobs tribute logo, and how it was similar to another image by Chris Thornley. The article says "In the world of graphic design, similarities between images are quite common, said Juliette Cezzar, director of the communication design program at Parsons The New School for Design in New York City. But Mr. Mak’s case shows how easy it has become to unearth similar images or outright copies." WhisperToMe (talk) 02:39, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * "Dispute Over Apple Image Shows Internet's Reach." The New York Times. Thursday October 13, 2011.

Task force parameter in project banner
I thought it was confusing that the iOS task force used `iphone=` in the template and asked for help to set up an alias. I didn't notice until now, but the person who responded went ahead and made the change. Can anyone help update project documentation and convert `iphone=|iphone-importance=` to `ios=|ios-importance=` in the article in ? --Pnm (talk) 00:19, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Importance?
This project does not seem to be using the importance parameter. Was this intentional? E.g. Steve Jobs should be an article of Top importance, many others low. It is a very helpful guide for people to know where to put their focus. --TimL (talk) 01:34, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Nominated iPad for FA
In case anyone has any comments - see this. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 22:30, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Firefox
I noticed that Firefox is tagged as under the scope of this project, but as Firefox is owned by Mozilla, I'm a bit curious as to the rationale there. Thanks, Peacock28 (talk) 15:20, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Good question; I searched a bit and found that the tag was added in . Apparently, all software available on the Macintosh platform is automatically added to the project. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 17:17, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that be like putting all music-related articles under the scope of this project, because music is available on iTunes? Peacock28 (talk) 19:49, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not defending this practice; I don't think it makes a lot of sense, either. But nor did I come up with it. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Details on the bot task are here; the category list used (which was curated by a project member) is here. The project is free to set its scope as it sees fit; I have no strong opinion about the inclusion of Firefox in the project scope. FYI Xenobot is no longer operational. – xeno talk 23:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Xeno. I have noticed that the bot is no longer active, but figured that you were the person to ask. I don't have strong feelings about this decision, either, I just agree with Peacock28 that it seems excessive – there's nothing specifically relevant to this WikiProject about Firefox and other software which happens to be available on Apple platforms. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 12:26, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Apple Inc. advertising and Apple media events merge proposal
A merge discussion is occurring. Additional input might help reach consensus. --Kvng (talk) 16:40, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Firefox article needs repair!
Hello WikiProject Apple! The Firefox article is really outdated and in need of repair. It would be great if we could put together a team to help maintain it - or at least bring it up to date. Thanks  ҭᴙᴇᴡ ӌӌ   15:16, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Disputed: Cambridge Ring/AppleTalk
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:AppleTalk. -- Trevj (talk) 14:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

(hot potato?) iPhone 4 and other touchscreen phones are not "Slates". Discuss (nicely).
Hi, I am not here to start a war or anything, believe me! But I am an industry professional with 10 years of touchscreen phone ownership and use. I am very interested in all things mobile, so have read *a lot* of mobile phone and tablet computer reviews, articles and editorials.

Until reading Wikipedia I has not heard of the term "Slate" referring to any mobile device form factor. My first serious introduction to the term was a series of "rumour" articles for the iPad (some coining the names "iTablet", "iSlate"). Before that all touchscreen tablets were called just that; Touchscreen PC's or Tablet computers. Later, HP and Microsoft used the name "Slate" to refer to a class of Windows 7 tablet computers (e.g. the HP Slate).

I cannot find any articles that predate Wikipedia's entries that mention "Slate" as a form factor, or more specifically the "Slate Phone" form factor. I don't believe they exist.

Touchscreen phones were always referred to as "Touchscreen phones", "touchscreen smartphones" or just "smartphones". A great example is a review of one of my first smartphones from a respected review site, TrustedReviews: TrustedReviews Orange SPV M500 Review. Nowhere is the term "Slate" used and this phone could be argued to be physically very similar to an iPhone or Android phone (albeit with an antiquated OS). If it were a common industry term then it would have been mentioned in the detailed review at least once.

So I'm trying to build a consensus around the deletion of "Slate" as a mobile device form-factor (including in Apple iPhone articles) because I think it's a Wikipedia invention and not a term used widely in the industry. Anywhere it is used seem to come after the Wikipedia entries and I don't think it's Wikipedia's job to invent terms.

That's my case.X4n63r (talk) 21:41, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Discussion: Photoshop was rewritten in Objective-C for Mac
Hello

I think needs the attention of someone familiar with Mac. Could someone please attend to it?

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 07:24, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Apple Lightning
Could anyone please add more info to the page as they know it? Thanks. 3&#124;9&#124;3&#124;0&#124;K (talk) 08:55, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

I think the project should be mid-class. I mean, look at the other dock article... 3&#124;9&#124;3&#124;0&#124;K (talk) 08:55, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Requested articles
Especially since iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 are out, I made the following article requests: I would like to help out on any of these – maybe we could create sandboxes for each of these? 17:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Reminders (application) – to-do list application for OS X 10.8 or later and iOS 5 or later
 * Notes (application) – notes application for OS X 10.8 or later and iOS


 * Passbook (application) has been created. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 06:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Avast! Antivirus
Apparently an editor is saying that despite avast antivirus being available for apple computers the article is NOT within the scope of this project. Would you mind correcting them please? Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 12:49, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I had reverted it twice but Barts1a have reverted them back, just any non involved member, can post on his talk, and get this matter done. Well, every major antivirus software makes one for Mac, not a single of them are within this project. Similarly, Avast makes one for Windows, why it isn't a part of WP Windows/ Microsoft. As obvious, Apple WP should be covering 'Apple' products. Firefox runs for Windows but it isn't the part of the project and vice versa. Cluttering a talk page with unnecessary WP banners doesn't help. extra 999 ( talk ) 06:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Help with info for iOS article
Recently, I've presented some new information to add to Apple articles. I've asked for help to make the edits since the reference for the info is a book written by the founder of the company where I work, and I'm here on the company's behalf.

On the iOS page, an editor gave a positive reply to one of the new pieces of info — the market share for iOS — but didn't add it. I don't want to put this info into the article myself because of my conflict of interest. Can someone here help?

If anyone here is interested, I've also posted a request at the iPad page that hasn't had any replies yet. Thanks, --Rkrueger (talk) 15:45, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject iOS
There is a new WikiProject, WikiProject iOS. I am not sure of the best place on WikiProject Apple Inc. for a link to it. —Wavelength (talk) 16:36, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

User:Mono and his inactivity rule
Since User:Mono stipulated in the first version of the "news" of the project that inactive members would get removed, and he has not substantially contributed to WikiProject articles since March 2011, is the rule now invalid, or does he get removed from the list? The reason I'm asking is because it's not the most welcoming thing for potential joiners to read, and it's not even specified after what period a user would get removed, so even if the rule were upheld by community consensus, it's not enforceable in the absence of this unspecified parameter. I obviously think that anyone inactive for ten minutes should get removed from the list, but that might just be me. :) Samsara (FA • FP) 16:56, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Request for comments: Establish standards for version history tables in software articles
I'd like to introduce the Template:Version template to Wikipedia with the goal to establish one standard for version history tables (or lists). It simplifies creation of release histories, standardizes release stages and makes the content more accessible. Please comment on the template talk page (there already is some discussion). Thanks for your contribution. Jesus Presley (talk) 07:05, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

RFC discussion confusion
I recently made an RFC for an article covered by WikiProject Apple (Talk:Cydia), and one of the suggestions for publicizing an RFC is to post to the talk page of a relevant WikiProject. But this talk page says "This page is for discussion of the project only." - perhaps that text should be adjusted to invite article content dispute resolution notices as well? Dreamyshade (talk) 00:21, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Newbie
Hi, this is Ajayupai95 from India, and I'm a big time Apple enthusiast. So can I please get an oppurtunity to join and participate in this WikiProject????

Ajayupai95 (talk) 13:03, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure, just add your name to the member list and start improving Apple articles! The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 16:20, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

SHSH questions
In connection with editing an article on SHSH blob I would like some input on what it exactly does. I commented here that I understand that it is just an authentication key iTunes need to see before the firmware is allowed onto the device and the key corresponds to the version of firmware on the device. I read on the Umbrella thingy and it looks like the key can be stored locally, then the software simply has to forward the iTunes call back home and present it back as its coming from home. It looks like that simplest explanation is that device needs to be presented with the key corresponding to whatever version firmware that will be loaded and presented by a means of "respoding back" to its "call for home" thus the use of very specific brand name software or single supplier server service such as Cydia is not a requirement for rollback. Do I have this right? Cantaloupe2 (talk) 03:45, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * You are correct that Cydia and Cydia's servers are not required parts of the process of saving or using SHSH blobs; they are just commonly-used tools for doing those things. Dreamyshade (talk) 04:44, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Invitation for additional opinions
If anyone is interested in iOS-related subjects, the articles iOS jailbreaking, Cydia, SHSH blob, and Greenpois0n have a lot of active talk page discussions that would benefit from additional perspectives and opinions. Most of the discussions involve just one other editor and me. Thanks! Dreamyshade (talk) 01:28, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe the said "one editor" is me. Saying "one other editor" is misleading when there has been RfCs with more than one editors beside you contributed in substantial amount. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 02:20, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * By saying "most" I meant to convey that the bulk of the discussions have been between us, not all of it. I hope that wasn't misleading; sorry. Dreamyshade (talk) 02:30, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Invitation for comments
I recently proposed transferring the sections of the iPad accessories article to a table and would love to get some more opinions or feedback on this. Please post your comments at Talk:IPad accessories. YuMaNuMa Contrib 06:22, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Request to review and give comments
I created an article on Inside Apple, a novel by Adam Lashinksy, very recently and have placed it under the preview of WP Apple.... Could someone please review it an also send me their comments ???? Thanks in advance and hope that you will be satisfied with it... It is however, short o content.. So if anyone could help build it, it would be great!!!!Ajayupai95 (talk) 14:28, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:KIS label
Your WP:Keep It Simple label, is in danger of being deleted. See (Templates for discussion/Log/2013 February 6.) If you still want it, you may wish to move it to a project subpage. Also see user label for technical details. Feel free to review my planning page, User:PC-XT/KIS, and talk there if you have questions. PC-XT (talk) 22:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was move, so I'm updating the location in the user page resources section of the project's main page. PC-XT (talk) 04:44, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

B-class ratings? what?
Why is that when I added WikiProject Apple to Talk:NimbleBit, I got something about B-class assessment criteria apart from just the class and importance? Super cuty 27 07:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Articles listed in Apple Wikiproject need to pass the standard B class assessment criteria to be listed as a B class article. You can simply assess it yourself by inserting the template listed on the Wikiproject banner into the Wikiproject banner template "code", however make sure assess the article correctly so important articles that do need be improved aren't classified incorrectly. Obviously as you may know, if you wish to promote an article to GA or FA status, it need to pass a formal standardised review. YuMaNuMa Contrib 04:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. If that's the case, I'll see what I can do about the B Class assessment. :) Super cuty 27 07:01, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

iPad Good Topic
The iPad articles are quite close to reaching Good Topic status, currently the only article that needs to be promoted is the iPad accessories article, given that the iPad mini is considered a separate product. There are currently a few recommendations on that article's talk page, if you can improve it, please do so! :)

YuMaNuMa Contrib 05:03, 1 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Also, I think the iPad_Mini page is a start class article which might need improving. Super cuty 27 01:13, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Apps Proposal
A proposal for a WikiProject Apps has been made at WikiProject Council/Proposals/Apps. As WikiProject Apple Inc. is a related WikiProject, members of this WikiProject are invited to join the discussion. Thank you. XapApp (talk) 02:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

iOS 7
Hi! I'd appreciate a little extra input into what is now becoming an edit war on the iOS 7 article regarding the inclusion of a proportionally large criticism section. I have opened a talk discussion there, yet IP editors keep re-adding the section despite a lack of reliable sources, and the fact that it causes extreme bias. I don't know whether semi-protection is warranted, but it'd be good if some people could help back me up; I don't want to fall foul of 3RR, so I can't protect it myself any more. Thanks! drewmunn talk 10:23, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Final Cut Pro
Hi again! Would you mind popping over to the Final Cut Pro talk page, where I've started an RfC on the differentiation between the eponymous software and Final Cut Pro X? Your views are very much welcome. Thanks in advance! drewmunn talk 12:04, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Newton logo.png
image:Newton logo.png has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:15, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Request Move's on Iphone 5s & Iphone 5c
As the main project affiliated with these articles i am posting a polite notice here that two page moves are underway on these pages. Blethering  Scot  22:14, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Requested Move - Apple Store = Apple Retail Store
Discussion on Talk:Apple Store. Please take a look. Thanks ツ Jenova  20  (email) 09:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

WP Apple Inc. in the Signpost
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Apple Inc. for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 12:26, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Just a reminder: we'd love to feature WikiProject Apple Inc. in the Signpost, but this can only happen if editors respond to the interview questions. We hope to hear from you. –Mabeenot (talk) 23:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:IPod Touch and others
It was nominated for deletion here. ,.  « Ryūkotsusei »  00:16, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I've redirected IPhone for similar reasons.  « Ryūkotsusei »  21:54, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Same with iLife. Old TfD is here: Templates for deletion/Log/2006 May 13.  « Ryūkotsusei »  05:03, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Mac Pro GAR
Mac Pro, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Someone not using his real name (talk) 23:02, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Apple Inc. At Wikimania 2014
Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to: Project leaflets Adikhajuria (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WP:VG comments subpages cleanup
Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Apple Inc. articles that would be affected by this action are these: If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Apple Inc.'s use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. -Thibbs (talk) 15:52, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Cartoon Network Universe: FusionFall
 * Matt Casamassina
 * Descent (video game)
 * Gangstar: West Coast Hustle
 * The Settlers II

WikiProject X is live!


Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

MacBook (2015 version) merger discussion
We have reached an impasse in Talk:MacBook (2015 version). Please add your thoughts to the discussion.—Totie (talk) 00:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Merger
I propose that List of products discontinued by Apple Inc. be merged into Timeline of Apple Inc. products. The discontinued article is just a list and contains no specific dates whilst the timeline does and I don't see the need for both articles. MB1972 (talk) 12:38, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

MacBook listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for MacBook to be moved to MacBook (2011 and earlier). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Transmission (BitTorrent client) listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Transmission (BitTorrent client) to be moved to Transmission (software). This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:46, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed change to Template:Apple Inc. operating systems
See for proposed change and  for previous version.

Changes:
 * Total makeover of MacOS section, splitting non-mainline-items into a new sub-section and splitting classic and MacOS into sub-sections
 * Total makeover of the Apple I/II/III/Lisa section, removing Apple I as it has no Apple OS and clarifying what OS goes with what line of computer
 * Within each list or parenthesized sub-list, Re-order items by approximate initial release date in all sections
 * Add a link to the related category Category:Apple Inc. operating systems at the bottom
 * Add some other wikilinks and other minor changes

If there are no serious unresolved objections within a week, I plan on implementing the change. If I neglect to do so, I invite any editor to make the change after the discussion, if any, has died down and all serious objections have been dealt with. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  16:41, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I have implemented the change. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  20:38, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Infobox: fonts with OS X
Given how popular OS X is with designers, I thought an infobox listing fonts bundled with OS X and their Wikipedia articles would be nice. (Windows has one.) So I've modified that for OS X as of Yosemite and put it up on my sandbox. Any thoughts? I've just done the Western alphabets for now. (Tried doing this a while back but could never get my head round the coding then.) I think this would be nice on articles for some of the fonts most strongly associated with OS X such as Hoefler Text, Chalkboard, Menlo, Monaco and so on. Blythwood (talk) 23:55, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

History of the iPhone
This article kinda sucks and it written like they are selling the phone by listing all the countries it is sold in. Should it be merged with iPhone? MB1972 (talk) 11:43, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I actually think it's OK. The iPhone article, which should really be more a description of the features and cultural impact of the iPhone would become very lumpy with lots of tables of release dates and that this feature was added with iOS 4.2.7 or whatever. Blythwood (talk) 19:33, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

unlock G4
this is my first time on hrer. i have a G4 and would like to know how to get past the lock code. can you please let me know how to do it. i do landscaping and my wife cleans houses. if you ever need anythong let me know thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2EDC:5F90:9CED:41C8:BF35:A508 (talk) 05:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

GAR for Apple TV
Apple TV, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. --sstflyer 14:03, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Covering internal Apps
Hello, on the outline there was a comment by user:Jimthing on covering apple's internal apps. I think this is a great idea and should be added to the scope of the project. Here is a link to that discussion.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakesyl (talk • contribs) 01:19, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Set index article for Steve Jobs films
There is a discussion about Steve Jobs (film), a set index article listing films named after Steve Jobs. The discussion can be seen here. Editors are invited to comment. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 15:54, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

"WikiProject iOS"
Someone has made a request to merge WPiOS inot WPAppleInc, for the discussion, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject iOS -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:27, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

macOS
The new name is already causing some inconsistency across Apple articles, where ‘OS X’ is being replaced. Maybe it would be an idea to form a consistent naming policy for this? See also the on-going discussion at talk:OS X.–Totie (talk) 18:32, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

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Assessment of the article Tim Cook
The article is currently evaluated as being a start-class article. I am uncertain whether this is still an accurate accurate assessment. I suspect the article might qualify for a reassessment as a C-class article. SecretName101 (talk) 05:39, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Notification of requested move discussion at Talk:TV (software)
The subject is to whether or not change the name of the article to "Apple TV (software)". You're welcome to join the discussion over at Talk:TV (software). – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · contribs · [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=PhilipTerryGraham&project=en.wikipedia.org count]) 16:49, 7 October 2017 (UTC)