Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Argentina/Archive 2

Banner for articles
Now that we have many editors working on a range of subjects, perhaps it is time to start labelling pages that fall under the Project so that they can be monitored and point people back here for ideas, links, categories and norms.

The initial element needed is a banner for talk pages. Two WikiProjects I come across regularly use the following:

WPLondon TrainsWikiProject

The London template is a simple one that allows counting the number of articles and generating a list. The trains template has complicated syntax which adds the possibility of including an assessment of the article that can help monitor the Project and link to subprojects, although this may be much harder when we have such a wide range of subjects. It also links to the to do list, which I like, but otherwise it is probably far too ambitious.

Views?? Martín (saying/doing) 11:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * A suggested banner (WPArgentina):

Martín (saying/doing) 16:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I like it (as it is). —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 00:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks good. I should notice that in order to keep track of such articles, the template shouldn't be subst-ed . Mariano (t/c) 09:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes that's right. We'd need to explain carefully how articles should be tagged; and we should perhaps be quite tight on definitions - should all Argentine people articles be included in the purview of the project that we want to monitor and improve, or just certain categories? Martín (saying/doing) 09:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh and what next? A formal vote? Or start implementation after a few days if consensus is still there? Martín (saying/doing) 10:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think a vote is needed unless there's substantive disagreement. I'm thinking about the goal of this template. If it's mainly to let other people know that "WP:AR was here", it's OK as it is. If the idea is to monitor Argentine articles closely, there should be more than one template, since this is not a small country and we have a very large number of articles. Possible fields: cities/places/geography, people/organizations, history/economy/politics. We're not such a big project as to think of having subprojects, but these specific templates could be a starting point for them in the future. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 13:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Pablo is right, I think we should think over the purpose of the tag. Potentially, all articles under Category:Argentina could be tagged, rendering the tag unuseful. If we plan to use some kind of subject-taggin for control (say, tagging then as Category:WPARG high priority or Category:WPARG expand), then it would be nice to do it now in order to avoid future re-taggings. Check for instance Chemistry. I propose we add an optional parameter to the Template for sorting. But then again, if optional, it could be done later. In short, "No sé lo que quiero, pero lo quiero ya!" Mariano (t/c) 14:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I rather rashly created WPArgentina-geo‎ (see below) having read Pablo's comments as an example of a way forward. I now regret this as it is premature and I hadn't taken in the issues about tagging etc. I may put it up for speedy deletion but thought I'd share first. The chemistry banner is similar to the trains banner I mentioned above, although the trains model, I think, allows categorising by subject (and can be one or more subjects, e.g. person and history, or person and sport, in our case). I don't feel capable of creating such a complicated template and system but I am sure that there are editors who can help.

WPArgentina-geo‎

What would be the key subjects at this stage? I would resist a separate listing for people, as they fall under other subjects. My suggestions are geography et al, history, sport, transport, politics. (Entertainment, military, etc could come later). Martín (saying/doing) 16:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh it seems it doesn't work anyway, perhaps my use of '-' in the title. It's at Template:WPArgentina-geo anyway. Martín (saying/doing) 16:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I did it. I completelly ruined WPArgentina with 3 parameters for subject, importance and quality. CHeck it out, and tell me what you think. Should we cross over Importance and Quality to detect highly important articles with low quality? (e.i. Category:WPArgentina Top Stub articles, Category:WPArgentina Top Start articles,..., Category:WPArgentina Low FA articles) There would be some 5 x 8 = 40 categories if Topic not used. BTW, we could use a different qualification, but the 7 level scheme is sometihng of a standard right now. What's more, the WPArgentina template could automatically add the articles to the corresponding Class category. Mariano (t/c) 10:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

That's really good. I think it's important to use the 7 level scheme but it takes some study to assess the levels properly. To my mind there should be quite a narrow set of Top Importance headline topics and locations which require the most attention to bring up to a decent level of quality. It would be neater English to swap the Importance and Quality, though not crucial, and it's best to leave out the advanced use of Topic for now for categorisation - we'll have enough to do. Btw, looking at Category:Top-importance Australia articles they have the simpler categorisation system but use a table there. I guess that requires someone to keep updating that table, which is annoying, but it does show all the articles together.

In short I think it's ready to go - good work! Martín (saying/doing) 22:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

WPArgentina
OK, so we've got the new WPArgentina template for categorizing Argentina related articles in their talk pages. Questions to solve before we start making (ab)use of it:
 * 1) How to decide the article's importance?
 * 2) Are we going to categorize by topic? Later?
 * 3) Are we having simple categories, or also crossed ones? (Top importance stubs, etc)
 * a) If so, how many crossings (we can group importance and quality levels to reduce them)
 * 1) Are we going to create a small explanatory page to which the tag should link or use the existing ones?

What is important
We should write some guidelines on importance for every single topic. At least a short paragraph. Anyhow, this is going to be source of arguments. Mariano (t/c) 08:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * This is absolutely right. Criteria will help us focus and agree by consensus, rather than discuss page by page. Biographies need a separate set of criteria on top of their subject criteria.


 * But for the Top Importance articles, I think it is just down to a straight fight over a list (with some sort of criteria, in particular their wider importance to the Wiki project). I started a thought process for myself at User:Mtiedemann/ArgImportance‎, just to give myself an idea of how articles would trickle down, to then inform a set of criteria. There are High and Mid Importance articles there for illustration for me, but they are not really helpful to compile by list. Feel free to amend, or ignore it of it's just complicating stuff! Martín (saying/doing) 08:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Prehaps your Top category, with less than 100 articles is a bit strict, but at least it leaves no place to discussion. Mariano (t/c) 10:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * it leaves no place to discuss... - Oh dear! I hope I didn't mean that! Anyway I reconsidered my point above about no criteria, I think these are the easiest criteria - vital or core articles on Wikipedia, core subnational entities, core topics as defined by WikiProject and overall Wikipedia, individuals and events only of major historical and/or global significance. We can still discuss whether Perón has global significance, but I'd like us to be generally sceptical over additions. Martín (saying/doing) 10:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Er, you got me all wrong! (not hat I expressed it badly...) I meant that though a bit to narrow for my taste, at least it's clear and once settled won't produce any arguments! For instance, I would probably also include Alfredo Di Stéfano as a top one, but then others would also be very questionable. In short: I'll stick to yours. BTW, not many people around ain,t it? should we publicitate this a little bit more? Mariano (t/c) 12:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm listening by. :) Need time to think. I fear we will have arguments over certain articles... --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 13:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Somehting I forgot to mention. Some would call it an undocumented feature, others a bug, but fact is you can create a talk page for an article that doesn't yet exist, with the tag, creating a category of missing articles of High priority. Ain't it beautiful?
 * Never mind me... Mariano (t/c) 15:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Topic categorization
I think it is important to separate articles by topic, since some of us don't give 2 cents for either topic, but perhaps is not crucial to have it right now. Mariano (t/c) 08:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * If the template supports the topic, it's no harder to add the Topic field, even if it's not used for now. Martín (saying/doing) 08:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Right. We should then add further topics to the template. What is it missing? Mariano (t/c) 10:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess 'culture' is the major missing element: language, literature, music, media, cinema, television, cuisine - either as one broad group or each split out.


 * I imagine some people are interested in military history as a separate discipline, although I am sceptical of treating it as separate from social and political history, especially in Argentina; there would then be an argument for economics, which I also would not be too happy with. And should football be separate from sport? Martín (saying/doing) 10:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * And buildings, structures and monuments probably needs a topic heading. Martín (saying/doing) 10:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Categories crossing
It would be very usefull to have a list (category) of the most important poor articles, since they are probably a priority. Therefore, I suggest we have at least the following categories:
 * 1) High importance stub articles (Top, High - stub)
 * 2) High importance fair articles (Top, High - start, B)
 * 3) High importance fine articles (Top, High - GA, A, FA)
 * 4) Mid importance stub articles (Mid - stub)
 * 5) Mid importance fair articles (Mid - start, B)
 * 6) Mid importance fine articles (Mid - GA, A, FA)
 * 7) Low importance stub articles (Low - stub)
 * 8) Low importance fair and fine articles (Low - start, B, GA, A, FA)

Perhaps we could also remove the Low importance categories. Mariano (t/c) 08:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes this is important, I was getting scared of the 40+ categories and think this is the most useful set of categories. Martín (saying/doing) 08:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * What about have another set of categories crossed over with Topic? At least a Top-High-Mid Stub category per topic. Perhaps something different? Mariano (t/c) 10:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Grades explanation
We should create something like WikiProject Chemicals/Assessment and Category:Top-importance Australia articles for both importance and quality, perhaps together with topic 1 (What is important). Mariano (t/c) 08:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I wrote WikiProject Argentina/Assessment, but it still needs work (and fixes). The only thing that bothers me is that some articles need not be Featured Articles. For instance, without trying to offend no-one, Marcelo Tinelli should settle with a B-Class article, or perhaps even an Start-Class. How do we translate this to our scheme? Current schemes don't take that into account, so perhaps we won't either. Mariano (t/c) 10:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Despite writing many biographies, I have always worried how they should fit in to this - I imagine most are of low to mid importance and don't really need expansion. Lists of Provincial Governors or Estudiantes Players or Army generals would in my opinion be of more importance to complete than biographies of them one by one; it's just that lists are so dull to research and write. I think we can just do what the other projects do - call them low/mid importance, encourage work on more important topics, and recognise that most editors will carry on researching the details of footballers, politicians and singers rather than their context. Martín (saying/doing) 10:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Shaping up
I'd like we all concluded with the assessment and importance guidelines in order to start using the taggin as soon as possible.

I've tagged 3 talk pages with the template. I did it on non-existent articles, in order to keep it off the main road: Talk:Fauna of Argentina, Talk:Agriculture in Argentina and Talk:Electoral system of Argentina. That is, 3 different topics, 2 different importance, and one quality (needed).

I think the system is quite neat, but I'm a little bit dissapointed with the lack of response from the rest of the project. Mariano (t/c) 12:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think I have too much more to say, except:


 * Well done Mariano!
 * For some reason Di Stefano is almost unknown in England but you are of course right about him - Top or High (what about Fangio? Should he be High?)
 * Fangio, Monzón and Di Stefano can be just High.


 * I'm happy with the assessment and importance pages but they do need others to contribute. Perhaps if we start using this, a few disputes will generate interests - we have to make a few mistakes to test the system anyway. Or we can put a notice on project members' pages
 * I agree, if we start using it they will have to contribute when they disagree. A message to the talk pages could be a good idea, but since there's certain paranoia regarding Spam, I will contact only the people I feel comfident.


 * Although it's a pain, maybe it's better that only a few people will be doing most of the grading for consistency.
 * Could be better, yes. Actually, its not a job I would be looking forward to...


 * I assume you feel buildings and structures can slot into others, which is fine.
 * No necesarilly. I though of buildings as either part of the Culture (museums, obelisco), History (casa de tucuman), Transport (bridges, routes), or politics (congreso, casa rosada). Perhaps the Topic missing is Science, what do you think? Tell me if you think there are any other Topics I should add.


 * I want to start using it now!
 * Well, Let's do it!


 * That was quite a lot to say in the end. Martín (saying/doing) 15:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I have one small doubt, best described with Category:High-importance Argentine articles. Should this category directly contain High-importance every-topic articles and high-importance every-quality articles, or should these be two different sub-categories? Of course, this little thing doesn't delay the use of the tag for the consolidated topics. Mariano (t/c) 08:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Article titles, routes, laws
If no-one objects, I'll follow policy and rename Ley Sáenz Peña to Sáenz Peña Law. Same with others (I think Argentine Law 1420 should be Law 1420 (Argentina)). I renamed Generación del '80 for this reason too.

Does anyone have a good citable source for National Routes? We have a gaping hole in that area. Same goes for important (historical) laws. Just a topic for you to think about when you run out of ideas for new articles. ;) —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 18:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * http://infoleg.mecon.gov.ar/ is useful for more recent laws and decrees and links to older laws that are relevant, which may be the important ones you're after.


 * The WP:UE issue is important. I've been meaning to turn my attention to the Universities, which are a mess of English, Spanish and a mix of both (University del Salvador??). Martín (saying/doing) 19:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Alberto Ginastera
Is there a reason why the article about the most important and famous Argentinian composer of the 20th century (or probably in all of history) is given "low" importance in the rating scale? This seems ignorant. Badagnani 00:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Probably the person who tagged it has not a wide knowledge on the subject. Please, first read WikiProject Argentina/Importance, and then re-tag if you still think it should be promoted. Mariano (t/c) 07:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Maps
Hi guys! Just a quick note to tell you that I'm not completelly lost; I'm working on map creation for our articles.

I've been gathering data and testing different software for it, and I'm arriving to something. Unluckily I don't have access to all the information I whant, since the free data available is limited and sometimes buggy while the good one costs money.

Nevertheless, I leave a map I created to show you what can be done, and hope to hear comments from you guys. This example is to be seen from near, since it was a lot of information, but that can be quickly changed. It was created with Quantum GIS and The GIMP, both open source, multyplatform programs. Mariano (t/c) 14:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Never thought you could get lost. :) I need to get my hands on that GIS (the GIMP I already have, oscórs). What do the tiny numbers mean? I like the idea (you know I love maps and all sorts of geo-stuff!). —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 18:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The tiny numbers I presume you mean the national/provincial routes. Dotted lines are railways, dark-brown Department divisions. Sadly it puts a tag on every single segment of the line, but you can remove it and place hand-put labels. You are more than welcome to download the QGIS siftware; I can send you all the shapefiles (data in a certain format) that I found, the ones I created from the originals, and the standarized projects for QGIS.

Nevertheless, I would like to set some standars before we start furiosly uploading maps, so they don't have to be changed afterwards if something changes. Also, it would be good to create map of areas that can be placed in several different articles instead of a different one for every single little town/stream/whatever. Mariano (t/c) 06:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * No es por ser aguafiestas, pero me parece que ya estamos llegando demasiado lejos. Desde ya traducir Aurora al ingles es WP:SELF, pero no importa tanto; ahora, hacer los mapas me parece un poquito mucho, a menos que pongas como referencia "guia YPF 2005", que ojalá acepten. —Argentino (talk/cont.) 16:11, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Maps are essencial to an encyclopedia, and I'm affraid the can't be just borrowed from other publications. There are programs to project maps from geographical information, so when we talk about creating a map, we are not currently talking about creating the data, just setting the colours, zoom, and labels for the existing information (usually in shapefile or raster formats). Thus, it can't be really considered WP:SELF. As references I would put the source of the data files. Where did you think came all the maps we use? check Maps and Blank maps and Mariano (t/c) 06:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

First two
OK, so I made 2 maps (actually two versions of the same one: political and topologycal), but I'm not completelly satisfied, mainly because when zoomed out (thumbed) they are not really usefull. Perhaps I should try doing lower resolution maps with bigger letters and thiker lines. What do you think? You can check them at Image:Map-Northern Patagonia-Argentina-political.png and Image:Map-Northern Patagonia-Argentina-topologycal.png.

Also, I'm not sure what areas should we cover, and at what scale: Patagonia is scarce, but some provinces are true bee-nests regarding cities/routes/divisions. Mariano (t/c) 13:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

SVG
Hi Guys. You know the vouge in Images is currently the SVG format. For those wishing to create/edit SVG files to be used in the Wikipedia (or elsewere!) I would like to recommend the GNU multiplatform Inkscape. It takes up some space, but it's quite cool and easy to use. You might be also interested in raster to vector conversion software. See ya! Mariano (t/c) 08:15, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Finalmente terminé, despues de arduo trabajo, un mapa de mi Patria como Dios manda. Úsenlo —Argentino (talk/cont.) 21:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

O juremos con gloria morir



Hello from Turkey
Hi people! I started this Boyoz article on a pastry that is very popular in Turkey, especially in İzmir. Turkish sources affirm that it is a product of the Spanish culture and a similar pastry can be found in Argentina, Chile, Peru and Mexico. Can anyone confirm this and if it is the case, can anyone bring any details or improvements. For example, I made an affirmation on the signification of a reportedly Spanish language word in the article (boyose), although I don't speak the language. Best regards. Cretanforever


 * That is very true. My wife is Judeo Spharadic and she loves them, most of Sephardic Jews in Argentina know them and it is very common in their diets. They are usually made with spinach and cheese fillings, I haven't tried them any other way yet. Regarding the etymology you are correct but the spelling is wrong, "Bollos" is the Spanish word to designate bundles or packs. :) Sebastian Kessel Talk 23:12, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's nice and moving to get such a confirmation from the other side of the world:) What a journey for one pastry, isn't it? :) In İzmir, we like boyoz plain, without any fillings. There are people who prepare them with cheese and spinach, but they are less commercialized in any case. I update the article according to the information you gave me and leave a link for "Bollos", if ever one of you writes an article on it. Best regards. Cretanforever

Irc or another comunication channel
Hi all, I think it would be nice to set up an irc channel for the WP Argentina effort. It's not difficult and it's more inmediate to get together. If there is consensus, I can try to manage it. Greets Deoomnisgloria 14:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Support. I've never used IRC, but it certainly wouldn't hurt. We need to leave a record of important conversations here for everyone to see, though, so as to be accountable to other users when we reach some important agreement. That is, let's not "move" this talk page to #wpargentina. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 14:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Support. I've used IRC for Wikipedia and it works great. —Argentino (talk/cont.) 13:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Support. Not sure if that usefull, but it couldn't hurt! Mariano (t/c) 14:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 16:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

William Brown
Hi Folks! I notice there's a WP:AR banner at the top of the William Brown (admiral) article, and thought it might be a nice idea to bring it up to FA status in time for his 150th anniversary in four months' time. Could more people review the article and make suggestions for improvements before it goes to FAC? -- Arwel (talk) 01:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Giardino
Hi, everybody! I want to tell you all that I have created my fist Wikipedia stub! It's Villa Giardino. Please visit, correct, expand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krazykenny (talk • contribs)


 * You can list your newly created articles at WP:ARNB. Don't forget to sing your comments in Talk Pages with ~, which is automatically translated into your username plus date-time. Welcome, and good wiking! Mariano (t/c) 13:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Argentinidad
Los invito a participar de Argentinidad, un proyecto wiki que usa el mismo software que wikipedia, y por ende funciona exactamente igual. Es una wikipedia de la argentina con un punto de vista patriótico-nacional.

Aquí se podrán crear artículos sobre la cultura, geografía, economía, historia, gente y demás de la Argentina, con la condición de que el punto de vista NO sea neutral, sino argentino. Este no es un lugar para la militancia política o social, sólo para escribir y "hacer algo". Para eso estamos, para los que nos cansamos de que insulten al País y ver como el mundo de nosotros ríe. Siempre se dijo, "hay que hacer algo" pero nadie lo hizo. Es dificil hacer algo, nadie por sí solo va a levantarse un día y transformar a la Patria en una potencia mundial, o expulsar a los ingleses de las Malvinas, pero no por eso se va a "hacer nada". Espero que te unas al proyecto, cordialmente

Andrés 02:10 19 nov 2006 (CET)
 * I regret that you feel it is necessary to have a wiki that presents an "Argentine point of view". On most topics I think Wikipedia does an admirable job of being neutral. If there are articles on the English Wikipedia which are an insult to Argentina, I am not aware of them (Argentine humour may come close in places, but most countries have jokes told against them; see for example New Zealand humour).- gadfium 20:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree whith gadfium: the greatness of the Wikipedia remaings in the fact that it`s a multicultural, neutral and all-human-no-matter-nacionalities proyect (somewhere I read that wikipedia it`s just like the "Gallactic Enciclopedy " created by Asimov in the Fundation trilogy). The simple act of create a wiki proyect based in the argentinian chauvinism, nacionalism and self pride unshaped the core of the wiki ideal itself. (I`m Argentinian and i`m proud of it, but i can see the defects of the great mayority of us, the argentinians) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodrigo Illarraga (talk • contribs)


 * I believe that Andrés is just trying to set a wiki-formated blog on Argentina. Which is nice, but has nothing to do with Wikipedia. Mariano (t/c) 11:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Argentina
I stepped in to help out with Portal:Argentina in April, but I was never planning to become the principal maintainer. I would like someone else to volunteer to take over running the portal. Please reply at Portal talk:Argentina.- gadfium 02:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

New Project on Mercosur
Greetings, I just wanted to let you know that I reserved a spot for Project Mercosur. It is basically a wikiproject on Mercosur and the countries that are part of it. Anyone interested please join, there's plenty of work to do. --Wesborland 23:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Falklands War
I've put it up for peer review here, and it was suggested that I find some Argentines to help balance out the article - it seems to have a definite British slant to it. Any help in improving the article is appreciated. Thanks, RHB 16:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for help on Eva Peron page
I notice that the Eva Peron article is part of this Argentina project. I am currently dealing with about three edit wars on the page. It is getting ugly and is threatening to destroy what was just deemed a Good Article. Can someone please step in here and help? We are currently dealing with an argument about magazine covers that may or may not be allowed, as well as an editor who keeps slapping the article with a NPOV tag but refuses to post an explanation for the tag on the Talk Page. Thanks. Andrew Parodi 03:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello all. Eva Peron is now a candidate for Featured Article status, but the nomination hasn't received feedback yet. Please look the article over, and comment. Thank you! --Fsotrain09 09:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

WPMILHIST
A discussion is going on at WikiProject military history whether or not a South American military history task force should be created. The suggestion is currently lacking support but if you are intrested in the topic could you please go to WikiProject Military History's talk page and say you are intrested and are willing to support the taskforce so it can be created. Cheers. Kyriakos 10:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Film titles
In film titles, the foreign version often becomes the title of the article, so we are having a discussion in Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (films), trying to establish what is correct for each language/country. We already have notice about Spanish titles capitalizing only the first word (after the article), but there is some doubt on whether this applies to Argentine films as well. We would appreciate if you could drop us a line about it. Hoverfish Talk 21:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Bilateral relations discussion
I would like to invite you all to participate in a discussion at this thread regarding bilateral relations between two countries. All articles related to foreign relations between countries are now under the scope of WikiProject Foreign relations, a newly created project. We hope that the discussion will result in a more clean and organized way of explaining such relationships. Thank you.  Ed  ¿Cómo estás? 18:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

wrong place in a Google Earth sattellital map (partido de Lincoln)
'''Wikipedia, in the software Google Earth its appear Partido de Lincoln, wich is not., The correct location is nearly. That point of sattellital map is PArtido de Junin.''' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.125.83.190 (talk) 17:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

re: Law of Argentina
Hi there,

This article is just an outline at present. I removed the 'cleanup' tag and replaced it with 'expert'. Compare with Law of Brazil for how it might be written. Thanks!--killing sparrows 08:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

National Bird of Argentina
Buenos dias! And greetings from Wikiproject Birds. Just to let you know that we have created a page for the Rufous Hornero, which we're given to understand is the national bird of Argentina. You may wish to move the national symbols of Argentina template from Hornero (which covers the whole genus), and if you can think of anything to add then please do so. Gracias. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  04:25, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Trade unions in Argentina
I started this stub article as part of WP:UNION, however, I have very few resources on the topic. It is a "Top" importance rated article for the Organized Labour project, and I would really appreciate if someone here would take a moment to have a look - at least for any glaring errors. Thanks.--Bookandcoffee 02:23, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I had a go at expanding this, writing pretty much off the top of my head. There's much more that could be done.  Something is needed first on the anarchist and socialist origines in the 1910s, 20s, and 30s, then on the rather complex history under Perón (and the relationship between the CGT and Evita, as after all her body was kept in the CGT building) and between the two peronatos.  Something on Vandor, for instance.  And perhaps a more nuanced account of the tensions between unionist gorilas and the Peronist youth.  But hope this helps.  --Jbmurray 04:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * For "off the top of your head" your expansion reads well - and provides a much better start to things. Thanks for the quick response. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 04:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Hola
Buenas! Volví. Me extrañaron? Che esto creció un montón, la lista de miembros debe ser 3 veces más grande de cuando me fui de aca. Yo era Argentino, ahora me cambié al nombre que uso siempre. Me fui porque me canse de todo esto, habia tratado de que me hicieran admin pero fue muy dificil y en las discuciones francamente les cerrabamos la boca a todos. ¡Si hasta pusimos "Malvinas" en el primer párrafo de su artículo! Bueno, voy a ver qué tan bien o mal estamos ahora y ver como mejorar nuestra situación más aún. --Argentini an 22:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Roads of Argentina
Hello people,

I was working about a year on the Spanish Wikipedia writing articles about Roads in Argentina. The category is es:Categoría:Rutas de Argentina. It even includes a featured article: Ruta Nacional 7

The current articles in English about Argentine routes are stubs. Does anybody want to start translating these articles to English? I don't have time to do it. Best regards, Alpertron 12:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I saw the articles in :es some time ago; they are really good. I'd love to see the most important routes featured in :en as well, but I'm also short on time. --Mariano (t/c) 13:42, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I started by re-doing Avenida General Paz (A001). Will do some more as time permits. I see that es:WP has a template on Routes of Argentina. I will create that template with national route numbers which will be mostly empty links until we slowly translate/build it up. -- Alexf (t/c) 15:01, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Created: Template:National Roads in Argentina. Now it needs creation of new Category (unsure: never done one yet). -- Alexf (t/c) 15:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! When you have time please also translate the historic national routes which are located on the category es:Categoría:Rutas_nacionales_antiguas_de_Argentina. I'm still adding maps and more information when I have time in the Spanish Wikipedia. Best regards, Alpertron 20:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Article Germans in Argentina needs attention
Not sure how active this project is, but I came across an article that needs attention. Germans in Argentina has the start of a great article, but it is still very non-encyclopedic in tone. I removed 1st person references, and tried to add section headers. The information is all there, but someone with more interest and knowledge in the subject than I needs to comb through and extract the encyclopedia article from this term paper. I did all that I could. Good luck. --Jayron32| talk | contribs 03:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Andrés Rivera
This article, about an Argentinian novelist, has been created, but with entirely Spanish text. On the Pages in Need of Translation wikiproject we are not sure whether he is notable enough for an article. Perhaps people here would like to have a look - you could leave a message on the article talk page or our project page. Thanks. Itsmejudith 14:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject:Argentine football
Hi

I believe that we really need to sort something out for Argentine football, the coverage is really recentist, hardly any of the great players from before the 80s have articles. Also people keep adding and removing players from the current squads without using the players in and players out subheadings and adding seemingly made up players. The Argentine Primera is miles behind even League 2 (4th Level) in sunny England in terms of the number of players with articles and the quality of team articles. There has been discussion of forming Wikiproject:Argentine football. If I can get some support here i will try and set it up. If it does happen we can keep track of when squads have been updated, players needing articles, good online source material, Argentine players playing abroad, what needs to be done etc. Let me know if you're interested, Regards, King of the North East 22:50, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Count on my support. I have been doing a lot of work in WikiProject Football lately and wondered why Argentine football does not have the same kind of quality coverage English football does. -- Alexf (t/c) 22:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And mine, you have my full support and of course my willingness to participate. I have started slowly working through each Argentine football club to correct mistakes, wiki links etc and to be able to have a football project would co--ordinate all our efforts and I am sure there will be others who would join once it was created. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 23:01, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Provincial flags
If any of you are interested in the Argentine provincial flags, please take a look at this post to the Graphics Lab. It is my guess that these two provincial symbols are supposed to resemble a historical flag used during Argentina's war of independence, but we need verification from somebody that speaks Spanish. Any help would be great. Valentinian T / C 15:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Photo of Russian embassy required
I have reformatted Diplomatic missions of Russia and have included a column which is to be populated of the various Russian diplomatic missions, and the article needs a photo of the Russian Embassy which is located at 1021, Capital Federal, Rodrigues Pena 1741. Can anyone in Buenos Aires assist with this? A map of the location is available here. Cheers --Russavia 04:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Help request for district naming scheme
Hello. I would like to know what is the established naming scheme for districts, or the solutions that have already been found: should they be disambiguated by the name of their department, or the name of their province, or depend on the case? Concretely, I stumbled on problems about the redlinks of at least two departments:

A) On Junín Department, Mendoza there are links such as:


 * 1) Junín, Mendoza
 * 2) La Colonia, Mendoza
 * 3) Medrano, Mendoza
 * 4) Mundo Nuevo, Junín district
 * 5) Phillips, Mendoza

B) Similarly, at Rivadavia Department, Mendoza there are links such as:


 * 1) Andrade, Mendoza
 * 2) El Mirador, Mendoza
 * 3) La Libertad (Mendoza)
 * 4) Medrano, Mendoza
 * 5) Mundo Nuevo, Rivadavia district
 * 6) Reducción, Mendoza
 * 7) Rivadavia, Mendoza

Just between these two departments, I see several issues, which are inter-related:


 * Q1: The main problem is about the two districts both named "Mundo Nuevo" which are both in the same departement – they can't be both named Mundo Nuevo, Mendoza (that could be a dab page, though) so the departmental ", Mendoza" suffix scheme breaks here. What are the rules or precedents for naming them, should they be Mundo Nuevo, Junín district or Mundo Nuevo, Junín or something else?


 * Q2: This brings the question of how should be named the other, non-capital districts: are they supposed to be all suffixed ", Mendoza" after the departmenent, or should they be suffixed ", Junín" and ", Rivadavia" respectively? That is, La Colonia, Junín instead of La Colonia, Mendoza, etc.? I don't know what are the normal usages here. The point is whether it's OK to have the inconsistency of each district being suffixed ", Mendoza" except the homonyms such as "Mundo Nuevo", or if it would be preferable to have consistency between the districts of each departement and have them all be suffixed with their departement instead of their province.


 * Q3: Plus, for the capital districts, is the Junín district supposed to be named Junín, Mendoza (as currently the case) or Junín, Junín (in the manner of New York, New York)? The point is the same, what is common usage, and the inconsistency of not having the same suffix inside the same departement.


 * Q4: A minor point: is the link La Libertad (Mendoza) a mere naming error, or was it done especially for some reason I ignore? (The "What links here" function gives 1 for the parenthetical, and 0 for the comma version. The dab La Libertad doesn't list it yet.)

I can do the handiwork to straighten this, but I first need to know the rules or naming scheme, and what to straighten them to.

&mdash; Komusou talk @ 17:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

- Hello all - I'm nearly done a History of Argentine Nationality page as a undergraduate history assignment that I would love to have included in the WikiProject - it can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Argentine_nationality. How do I go about adding it? Thanks. mshamessMshamess 08:12, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Your attention please
I really do not believe that "José Domingo Molina Gómez" is a real historical character, yet he is supposed to be a former Argentine president, not only here, but in Spanish, French and Italian wikipedia as well.

And I also would like to point out that Justo, Ortiz and Castillo appear as "military dictators" in the Argentine presidents template.

Thank YouKeNNy 17:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Londres, Catamarca
I created this article, but I am severely limited by not being able to translate from Spanish. Someone please compare the article to its Spanish antecedent (click on the interwiki link) and make any necessary improvements. Thanks! Shalom (Hello • Peace) 04:07, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi - have translated across some of the extra info - check discussion for different information I've found about the origin of the name..--Pysproblem (talk) 10:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

List of political and geographic subdivisions by total area
Hi, I'd appreciates some help in adding the Provinces of Argentina to this list. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind, found a quick way to do it. Cheers again! bd2412  T 14:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Stub types
For those of you interested in geography, there are several new stub types under. Feel free to assign the templates accordingly. Cheers, Her Pegship  (tis herself) 13:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Tu-Sa?
I've just uploaded a stub on an Argentine trainer aircraft, the IMPA Tu-Sa, and was wondering if someone could tell me what the name "Tu-Sa" means? (in some sources, written as "Tusa", and in a couple as "Tu-Sa-O"). Argentine aircraft were/are often named for birds, insects, or indigenous tribes, so this might provide a clue. Because of the plane's terrible safety record, pilots joked that it really stood for Todo Un Sarcófago Aéreo, but I'm sure that's not what the manufacturer originally had in mind! --Rlandmann (talk) 23:40, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:María del Luján Telpuk
Look at the bottom of Talk:María del Luján Telpuk. Your project needs to set up its article categories.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested
Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 18:44, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Tierra del Fuego Province
I've filed a requested move of the article Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica, and South Atlantic Islands Province and thought people here might be interested in taking part. Thanks. Pfainuk talk 10:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Universidad Nacional del Litoral
I see that in List of Argentine universities the list of Northeast and Litoral is missing Universidad Nacional del Litoral (http://www.unl.edu.ar, National University of the Littoral). I will add it if it is OK. Mariostorti (talk) 22:17, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

New template
See User Italian Argentine to Italian Argentine citizens. Shooke (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Rename proposal for the lists of basic topics
This project's subject has a page in the set of Lists of basic topics.

See the proposal at the Village pump to change the names of all those pages.

The Transhumanist 09:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup
Currently, 1817 articles are assigned to this project, of which 212, or 11.7%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 2008-07-14.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.

If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 18:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

TAM tank A-class Review Open
An A-class review for TAM (tank) has been opened. Your comments are welcomed! Thanks!. JonCatalán (talk) 00:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Neuquén Group phot?
Perhaps someone from eastern Neuquén province reads this. There is a cliff where many different rock layers can be seen. See photo and associated paragraph at the article's end, a detailed map is in the cited source. It must look impressive e.g. at the bend where the road approaches the lake closest or from the heights farther west ("Cordon del Co. Colorado" in the map). A photo would be very nice to have. And it is certainly one of the natural treasures of Neuquén and might warrant inclusion in the province article. The 2006 source gives a good review. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 21:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

To many images in Argentina page
I posted a comment some time ago, that I feel there are way too many images in the Argentina article, and it should be pruned. Unfortunately there are not many comments or opinions. We'd like some consensus before making a decision on cleaning it up. I know be bold and all but I'll wait a short while to see what people think. -- Alexf42 17:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, there are way too many images, I suggest removing some of the images that are used on a number of other pages already and images that bear little or no relation to the section that they are placed in. E  P  11:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I disagree. My opinion is that the images currently in it adequately illustrate each of the sections, and are relevant to its content (I can try to explain why, image by image, if needed). Additionally, it could be difficult to:
 * determine which images are "more relevant", even less to have consensus abut what to leave and what to keep;
 * agree how many images are "way too many".
 * I believe that rearranging and/or resizing the images currently in it would help to make it look less "cluttered". Please don't prune it.
 * Regards, DPdH (talk) 02:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * As I posted in Talk:Argentina: "Well you agree with us that it is clutered. There are many pics wich can be taken out. In 'music' section: leave only Carlos Gardel (this one is very easy.). In 'history' section: remove "Río de la Plata aboriginals" and Velez Sarsfield (seriously people, WTF are those two doing there?) I want to take out a few more there but lets start with those two. Remove "Sailboats on the Uruguay River" In 'Rivers and Lakes'. In 'flora' remove palo borracho and in 'fauna' the sea lion. In 'Culture' remove "Street in Buenos Aires CBD". We can start with those I mentioned. --Tycho (talk) 21:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)" Bear in mind that removing them from there doesn't mean removing them from everywhere. many of those pics belong to: Culture of Argentina, History of Argentina, Music of Argentina and so on.--Tycho (talk) 00:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Latin American cinema task force
A Latin American cinema task force has been proposed at WP:FILMS, which would include the cinema of Argentina. (The existing Argentine task force would still exist as a sub-task force.) Interested editors are encouraged to sign up - if there is enough interest, then the task force will be created! Many thanks, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 20:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Argentina-related articles needing geographical coordinates
Based on a search of Wikipedia's articles related to Argentina, I've found some articles that I believe are about places in Argentina, and could usefully have geographical coordinates added.

The articles in question are listed in Category:Argentina articles missing geocoordinate data. At the time of writing, some examples included:
 * 1) Chimehuin River
 * 2) Club Hotel de la Ventana
 * 3) Estadio Cubierto Newell's Old Boys
 * 4) Mesopotamia, Argentina
 * 5) Mojotoro River
 * 6) National Route A014 (Argentina)
 * 7) Palacio San José

...and there are many more, as well. At the time of posting this notice, there were 241 articles in this category needing geographical coordinates.

Why add coordinates?
By adding coordinates, a Wikipedia reader can easily view the location on a street map, nautical chart, topographic map, by satellite photo, realtime weather map, and in many other ways. Coordinate data makes an article eventually appear in various services such as Google Maps' Wikipedia overlay, Google Earth, and Wikipedia's own internal map service. Coordinate data also helps readers looking for geographically-based data, such as locations near a reference point, or related information.

How can I do it?
The articles are all marked with coord missing tags, which need to be replaced with coord tags that contain the location's latitude/longitude coordinates; or you might be able to add coordinates to an existing infobox. You can find out how to do this at the Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Please let me know if this is useful, or if you have any questions! -- The Anome (talk) 09:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I might understand it for places, but it does not make sense to me for articles like National Route A014 (Argentina) mentioned above. It's a highway, not a place with one coord. Same goes for the River and the Mesopotamia region examples. -- Alexf(talk) 15:48, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Borges - review as good article
Jorge Luis Borges has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Articles are typically reviewed for one week. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here. Tom B (talk) 18:20, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Argentina article crashing mobile browsers
I just tried reading Argentina with Safari on an iPod Touch, and it crashed my browser. The article is currently 155,508 bytes. If this project is active, please prioritize splitting this article into smaller articles so readers can access it from mobile devices. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 10:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Holocaust Museum of Buenos Aires
- crossposted to WikiProject Jewish history -

I wanted to link some text in Adolf Eichmann: "The passport has been handed to the Argentina Holocaust Museum in Buenos Aires." We apparently don't have an article on this museum. Holocaust memorials lists Museo del Holocausto de Buenos Aires (Holocaust Memorial Museum, Buenos Aires, Argentina), and links it to the external official site of the museum at http://www.fmh.org.ar/ -- we apparently don't have an article at Museo del Holocausto or Museo del Holocausto de Buenos Aires. This museum is not listed at Holocaust museum, which possibly would be more correct than Holocaust memorials. Other possible titles/redirects: Argentina Holocaust Museum, Holocaust Museum of Buenos Aires. I will not be working on this myself. -- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 01:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Andrés Nocioni/1
Please comment at Good article reassessment/Andrés Nocioni/1.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:NOT#PLOT
Apologies for the notice, but this is being posted to every WikiProject to avoid accusations of systemic bias. Hiding T 13:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

mormon temple in Buenos Aires
There is a Mormon temple in Buenos Aires. Should the article belong to this WikiProject? LDS-SPA1000 (talk) 20:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes King of the  North   East  20:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD
The stub for Argentina-Greece relations is up for deletion. If anyone can find sources to rescue the article you'll be doing better than I did with English-language sources. Articles_for_deletion/Argentina–Greece_relations. Fences and windows (talk) 23:00, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Census info
Hi, anyone here know a good place to get census info for The Falkland Islands? See Featured picture candidates/Falkland Islands for the context — Jack · talk · 02:39, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

italo-argentinos
alguien puede hacerlo? []. Someone is able to do a good article about the italo-argentinian? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alessandro.pasi (talk • contribs) 18:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Feature article review notice
Che Guevara has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattisse (talk • contribs) 20:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for a 200-WikiProject contest
A proposal has been posted for a contest between all 200 country WikiProjects. We're looking for judges, coordinators, ideas, and feedback.

The Transhumanist 00:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

If you're looking to create a stub...
Hello. I've been working on Find-A-Grave famous people, a sub-project of WP:MISSING. MISSING tries to identify possible gaps in the comprehensiveness of Wikipedia. In any case, there are a number of biographies related to Argentina in this backlog. In particular, for names that start with Q there are only 4 remaining articles to create and two of them are about Argentinean actors: Camila Quiroga and Ignacio Quirós. So if anyone is nice enough to create basic articles about these two, I'd be grateful. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 19:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject TRANSWIKI
You are invited to join WikiProject TRANSWIKI and join the Spanish language transwiki project. The aim is to draw up a full directory of missing articles from Spanish wikipedia and build a team of translators to work at bridging the gaps in knowledge. We need your help, so if there are any Spanish speakers here please join up as your language skills are crucial. We want to improve our coverage of Argentina in English right? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 17:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Popular pages
I have requested a list of popular pages for this project at. --Ysangkok (talk) 15:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Help Needed!
I am working on a project with my AP Biology class. Our assignment is to take a stub article and transform it into a FA. My group is actively working on perfecting the pudu deer article, and I noticed this project organization has pudu deer on its list of articles to improve. We would greatly appreciate additions/critiques to the article. Thanks! Lisa Anne893 (talk) 03:31, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Argentina to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at WikiProject Argentina/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 00:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Please Help!
I am part of a group involved in developing a stub article into a GA article as part of an AP Biology project. We edited the Pudu page, and it is ready for a GA review. No one has come along to review it yet, and our grade is riding on this. We would greatly appreciate a GA review, especially from one of your members as the article is listed on your page. Thanks!Kyleemmroz (talk) 14:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

GA nomination
The article May Revolution has been nominated as good article. Review by users with knowledge of Argentine history is welcomed MBelgrano (talk) 15:40, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
This message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the WP 1.0 assessment system. On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the WP 1.0 bot will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's summary table will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the WP 1.0 project homepage. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 02:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced Biographies of living people
I suggest listing this project into User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects, to have a tool to trace unsourced Biographies of living people related with Argentina. For this to work right, it would be needed to request a bot to add WPArgentina at Category:Argentine people and subcategories.

If there are no complains in a week, I will proceed to add it. MBelgrano (talk) 16:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles bot
Okip  01:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Gaucho Rivero
There is an ongoind discussion about deleting the article Gaucho Rivero, located at Articles for deletion/Gaucho Rivero. The Gaucho Rivero, or Antonio Rivero (his real name) was a man from the XIX century history of the Malvinas, who killed the british governor and other people for reasons that are in historical dispute. Of course, much of that dispute is related with sovereignty.

Normally I wouldn't post this kind of messages here, but the nominator did so at the Falkland Islands work group, and now the discussion is unbalanced with people from that point of view, and I'm getting tired of their constant insults and downgrades. As the deed is done, and he refused to post here himself to prevent this Votestacking, then I do it myself. I would have prefered that no special announcings like this were made either here or there, but at this point this is what should be done to keep things fair. MBelgrano (talk) 21:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Buenos Aires Barrio
Template:Buenos Aires Barrio has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Ruodyssey (talk) 02:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

San Isidro, Buenos Aires Gallery photo#2

This photo was taken in Nagasaki, Japan (not in San Isidro, Argentina).

San Isidro city is sister city of Nagasaki (is not sister city of Nagoya). In 1996 San Isidro City sent this monument to Japan and it is at the Peace Park Memorial of Nagasaki. There are many monuments from diferent countries at that place.

The name of the monument is "TRIUMPH PEACE OVER WAR" B&#39;Rat Ud (talk) 02:27, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Historiographical discussion at Platine War
People with knowledge of History may feel interested with the ongoing discussion at Platine War article. Salut, --IANVS (talk) 17:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

In the News - Election of the first Secretary General of Unasur
Currently, there is a proposal for this item to feature at In the News (Wikipedia Portal). If interested on this topic, join a debate on its nomination, here. Salut, -- IANVS (talk | cont) 16:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

A-Class review for ARA Moreno now open
The A-Class review for ARA Moreno is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! — Ed   (talk  •  majestic titan)  08:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

A-Class review for Rivadavia class battleship now open
The A-Class review for Rivadavia class battleship is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! — Ed   (talk  •  majestic titan)  06:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Use of the term "Argentina"
Surely research suggests that the term "Argentina" is inappropriate for any time prior to the establishment of the Argentine Republic in 1853? Events prior to the actual establishment of the Argentine Republic are surely more attributable to the United Provinces of the River Plate, or the United Provinces of South America, or the Argentine Confederation. To attribute all events to "Argentina" must be to give an inaccurate picture of a mythical continuity. The period between 1810 and 1853 was undoubtedly a time of great turmoil and needs to be correctly described. There is no difference between the evolution of this state and others where, for example, the United States begins with the United States Constitution or Britain begins with the unions of England with Scotland and Wales. 86.16.134.133 (talk) 14:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Apologies. When I wrote the above I thought I was logged in.

Agent0060 14:55, 4 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent0060 (talk • contribs)


 * The first uses of the word "Argentine" to make reference to Buenos Aires or the areas around it are dated from 1800, at the Telégrafo Mercantil newspaper. MBelgrano (talk) 17:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Vital Articles
To refine the location and improvement of articles that really need to be of high quality, I have created WikiProject Argentina/Vital articles (the word "Vital" is simply because the page is a project-specific version of Vital articles). I have included a number of articles by my own initiative, but feel free to add others I forgot, or remove others that may not be so important. MBelgrano (talk) 16:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Argentine articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Argentine articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Sunday, November 14th.

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WikiProject cleanup listing
I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:06, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Liberalism and radicalism in Argentina


The article Liberalism and radicalism in Argentina has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Unreferenced essay, fails WP:NOTESSAY, WP:N and WP:V

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Jeepday (talk) 11:50, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Featured article candidate
The article Lionel Messi has been nominated as featured article candidate by Taro-Gabunia. Leave comments at Featured article candidates/Lionel Messi/archive1, and have in mind the Featured article criteria. MBelgrano (talk) 12:29, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Jorge Aliaga
Our little article on Prof Jorge Aliaga is up for deletion (discussion here: Afd Jorge Aliaga). I have had a good look around and there seems to me, in addition to his academic physics stuff (which appears insufficient) - using google translate - quite a bit on him with regards to University politics.. or politics more generally. Does anyone here know anything about him. Is he notable? (Msrasnw (talk) 00:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC))

Memory Park photos up for deletion
Please see:
 * commons:File:Parque de la Memoria - Buenos Aires - Dennis Oppenheim - Monumento al escape.jpg
 * commons:File:Parque de la Memoria - Sin título - Escultura de Roberto Aizenberg representando seres fragmentados.jpg

Can a native speaker of Spanish have a look at the relevant copyright law that is linked from here: Freedom of panorama? Is it illegal to put photos of public sculptures/artwork in public parks on Facebook, Flickr, the Commons, etc..? --Timeshifter (talk) 04:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Argentines of European descent
I note that the article Argentines of European descent (created from the recently-deleted 'White Argentines' article, but with significant changes) appears not to be listed here as either a 'Vital article' or 'Recognized content'. As there is an edit war brewing, and relatively few contributors are involved, I would appreciate if others with a knowledge of the subject might help out. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:32, 19 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Let me clarify a detail: the idea for the "Vital articles" page is simply to gave some ideas to users who may have not decided yet in which article work. It is not meant at all as a judgement over the topic of the article (Videla is there, after all...), and the presence or absence of articles in it does not mean anything about them. Even more, I wrote most of that list by my own initiative, but anyone can include more articles in it, if avoiding spam of garage bands or very specific topics. "Recognized content" are the articles that were approved at some of the quality checking systems in wikipedia. MBelgrano (talk) 01:00, 19 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification, MBelgrano. In any case, it would certainly be useful to get wider input into the article, and this looks a sensible place to ask. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:04, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of José Domingo Molina Gómez for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article José Domingo Molina Gómez is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/José Domingo Molina Gómez until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Cambalachero (talk) 01:26, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Mfd notice of WikiProject Mercosur
I have nominated WikiProject Mercosur for deletion at WP:MFD. Please comment here for any concerns. Thanks. JJ98 (Talk)  01:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

List of heads of state of Argentina
Two interim presidents are missing but to other are not. Also, the third triumvirate is missing.--46.12.45.67 (talk) 18:30, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hay, is anyone there???--46.12.45.67 (talk) 19:58, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I have already explained this to you. The list is based in bibliography. Cambalachero (talk) 20:00, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * So, bibliography says not about the interim?--46.12.45.67 (talk) 09:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Bibliography considers the interim presidents beyond the scope, and works only with real, democratic or defacto, presidents. Cambalachero (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * But two interim presidents are already in the list.--46.12.45.67 (talk) 19:01, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * That's the advantage of using bibliography: it is not us who will decide what to list and what not to. As for Lastiri and Guido, they took power following the regular succesion laws, staying as presidents during the time period until a new one was elected. It is different than the cases of José Domingo Molina Gómez (military) or Ramón Puerta and Eduardo Camaño (democratic), who became presidents "to fill the void" while a higher organization discussed who should be appointed president. Those are the cases that are dismissed. Cambalachero (talk) 02:04, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

2011 Puyehue eruption flight disruptions
I was wondering whether a Air travel disruption after the 2011 Puyehue eruption article for the 2011 Puyehue eruption should be created? This would be analogous to the Air travel disruption after the 2010 Eyjafjallajökull eruption article.

Please discuss at: Talk:2011 Puyehue eruption

65.94.47.63 (talk) 10:15, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

What is "Colon" in "Colon road"?
Hola! In a featured list candidacy I was asked to wikilink "Colon" in "Colon road" (Estrada do Colon). I am not sure which Colon is meant here, so I hope to get some input from somebody more familiar with the region. "Colon road" appears in connection with Iguaçu National Park and was one of the reasons for listing the park as World Heritage in Danger. bamse (talk) 07:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Club Atlético Palermo
Comments would be appreciated at Articles for deletion/Club Atlético Palermo. Thanks. Zagal e jo^^^ 23:58, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Cultural impact of the Falklands War
Hi. When you have time, could you see Talk:Cultural impact of the Falklands War ? Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 08:52, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Cambalachero (talk) 12:55, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

A-Class review for May Revolution
There is an A-Class review open for the article May Revolution, at WikiProject Military history/Assessment/May Revolution. Any comments are welcomed. Cambalachero (talk) 03:21, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Federal Penitentiary Service Intelligence
Is this a real agency? Federal Penitentiary Service Intelligence

It's totally unsourced. Even if it is, shouldn't it be merged into the article about the prison service? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 15:35, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It does exist, although I too am of the opinion that it ought to be merged into the page dealing with its parent organization (most of the Argentine intelligence articles should, IMHO). --190.19.100.143 (talk) 01:27, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

School areas of Buenos Aires
Hi guys!

http://www.buenosaires.gov.ar/areas/educacion/niveles/primaria/distritos/index.php?menu_id=19790

That link has information about school coverage areas in Buenos Aires. If you work on articles about Buenos Aires, please take advantage of this link WhisperToMe (talk) 23:31, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Province names
There's a proposal on Talk:Córdoba Province (Argentina) to move all province articles requiring disambiguation in the title to PROVINCE, Argentina (with a comma instead of parentheses).  Night w   14:59, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured article candidacy for South American dreadnought race now open
The featured article candidacy for South American dreadnought race is now open. Comments from reviewers are needed to help determine whether the article meets the criteria for featured articles; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 09:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Argentina will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Argentina's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't understand the proposal. What do you propose us to do? Cambalachero (talk) 16:14, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry if this was confusing! I'm hoping that people will have interest in either doing off-Wikipedia events - like real life edit-a-thons about women's history in Argentina, or that Wikiprojects will want to do focuses for the month of March. For example, Wikiproject Architecture and Wikiproject Astronomy are developing focuses on women architects and astronomers for March. Perhaps this project would want to work on articles about women in Argentina! SarahStierch (talk) 18:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Mass deletion request
You may be interested to follow commons:Commons:Deletion requests/PD-AR-Photo de la Guerra de Malvinas. Photos taken in Argentina in 1982 are in the PD in Argentina, but not in the US, and may need to be deleted. Cambalachero (talk) 16:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Buenos Aires train crash
A major train crash has happened in Buenos Aires. Assistance from members of this WikiProject in expanding/improving the article is sought. Mjroots (talk) 18:37, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The article has several errors. Please check the Spanish version. Best regards, Alpertron (talk) 21:37, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The Spanish version says that there are two hypothesis, a malfunction of the brakes, and a human mistake. A bold statement... with no reference at all. And I checked the other references in the section, they say that there's no conclusive info to set an official cause yet and that the judiciary will investigate. Right. Nowhere in them someone blamed the driver or some other human mistake. Those things are so common in that wikipedia that I prefer to skip translations altogether, I just check the articles to see if they have images to take. Cambalachero (talk) 12:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The first error is the title: Buenos Aires rail disaster. Maybe you forgot last year's disaster when 11 people died in Flores Station. Yesterday there were Russian and British newspapers cited as references. It is clear that these are not reliable sources. Fortunately they were replaced. Best regards, Alpertron (talk) 16:27, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't blame me, the article was moved some hours ago by someone else. Feel free to join the talk page, the title is under discussion right now Cambalachero (talk) 17:08, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Which agency will investigate the disaster? That agency needs to have a Wikipedia article. I recently started articles on various investigation agencies of rail accidents around the world. WhisperToMe (talk) 22:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Buenos Aires rail disaster, maybe we can add year 2012 or station "Once" in the name of the article to diferency from others posibles accidents arouund the human history. Like in the spanish article title "Accidente ferroviario de Once de 2012"--Feroang (talk) 01:45, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest against using "Once". For people in Buenos Aires it's clear, but foreign people will not relate the incident to the train station, which is unknown abroad. It can be even confusing, because "Once" has a specific meaning in English, which is neither the station nor the number. But n any case, it may be better to discuss this at the article talk page. Cambalachero (talk) 03:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

May Revolution
There's a FAC open for the article May Revolution at Featured article candidates/May Revolution/archive4. All comments are welcomed. Cambalachero (talk) 02:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

WP:CONSISTENCY in WP:BLP sports stubs
I just came across Facundo Arguello (tennis) and Facundo Argüello (soccer). There should be consistency between how Argentine sports BLPs handle accents. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:12, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Review for Economic history of Argentina
Economic history of Argentina was nominated for Good Article status in late January, however it's still waiting for a review. Can someone from the WikiProject take a look at it and help in the decision of whether it should, or should not, be recognized as a good article? Thank you.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:52, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Merge comment needed - Platine War
Should Platine War merge to Battle of Caseros? Please comment at Talk:Platine War. Thanks, D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  02:54, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Geography question
What is the difference between es:Meseta patagónica and es:Desierto patagónico? Do we adequately cover them both in our single article Patagonian Desert, which says it is also called the Patagonian Steppe (I'm guessing this is the Meseta equivalent)? Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:35, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * A "meseta" is a plateau, a flat terrain of high altitude. A steppe is a type of dry and continental climate. The Spanish article "estepa" defines that it may be used to set it appart from the hot deserts (when we say "desert" we think in sand and heat), but I'm not an expert in geography, so I can't be sure if that's correct. What I do understand is that "meseta" is the terrain, and either "desert" or "steppe" are climates. As for the articles, yes, a single one is right: it's the same geographic feature, and we would write the same at either one. Cambalachero (talk) 13:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Argentine cuisine
Due to contentious editing at Template:American cuisine, this has resulted in the deletion of the image at Argentine cuisine template. You may wish to discuss whether to keep the image or not, but someone should watch the template to see if further contentious editing at American cuisine results in spillover to your template. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 11:34, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested Moves
These won't show up on WikiProject Argentina alerts, so I inform manually: Discussion is at Talk:Andres_Artunedo. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:10, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Maria Jose Gaidano → María José Gaidano
 * Raquel Giscafre → Raquel Giscafré

May Revolution
There's a FAC open for the article May Revolution at Featured article candidates/May Revolution/archive5. All comments are welcomed. Cambalachero (talk) 00:27, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Yerba_mate#Requested_move:_.E2.86.92_Ilex_paraguariensis
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Yerba_mate. KarlB (talk) 05:00, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

José de San Martín
I have recently worked with the article José de San Martín, which I may nominate for GA in the future. If someone else wants to check it and propose changes, it would be better. Cambalachero (talk) 15:49, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Gada82 photos
image:Gada82.jpg and image:Gada82-Roland.jpg have been nominated for deletion for failing NFCC. -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 21:15, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

May Revolution
The article May Revolution has been nominated as a Featured Article Candidate. Please read the article provide reviews here Cambalachero (talk) 01:23, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

List of 2015 Pan and Parapan American Games broadcasters
Hi I am trying to fill this article out with the Argentinian broadcaster of the games. Any information and links would be helpful! Intoronto1125 Talk Contributions  01:12, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

This project dead?
Doesn't appear to be any activity here. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:59, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Juan Manuel de Rosas
Hi. I want to bring Juan Manuel de Rosas to Featured Article. However, there is an editor called Cambalachero who has been in a personal crusade to whitewash Argentine history. He won't allow anyone but him to touch the Article. Thus, I would need the full support from other editors. - --Lecen (talk) 01:15, 12 December 2012 (UTC)


 * With Pacho O'Donnel's book? So you have given up your old concerns about revisionism? Cambalachero (talk) 01:22, 12 December 2012 (UTC)


 * There isn't anyone else in here? - --Lecen (talk) 09:14, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Lecen...this wasn't a very neutral message to the project.--Amadscientist (talk) 20:26, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * So what? I wrote this on 12 December. It was not a message calling anyone to serve as neutral third party or to take part in a RfC. And it's quite correct. So far all my attempts to edit in that article have been reverted either by Cambalachero or by his buddy MarshalN20. That's why I had to look after other venues to deal with this situation. --Lecen (talk) 20:33, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Commons:WikiProject Argentina
Hi! Remember that we have Commons:Commons:WikiProject Argentina. Please make sure all material on this page is in English as well as Spanish WhisperToMe (talk) 01:31, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Mónica Cosachov
Could I get someone to look for good quality references for this article? Cosachov looks to be a serious composer, but the references in English aren't that great. Using Google books I found some in Spanish, but my language skills aren't up to sorting them out.Pkeets (talk) 13:50, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:Seasons in Argentine rugby union
Category:Seasons in Argentine rugby union and its 57 sub-categories, which are all within the scope of this WikiProject, have been nominated for merger to parent categories. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:03, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Youth Olympic Games 2018 Logo.png
file:Youth Olympic Games 2018 Logo.png has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 12:24, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Mercosur
has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 01:05, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Union of South American Nations topics
has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 01:35, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Spanish / Lat Am MOS
Are there any editors interested in getting Manual of Style/Spain & Spanish-related articles improved to the status were it can be RFC-ed for a formal guidelina as WP:FRMOS is? If so please comment on Wikipedia Talk:Manual of Style/Spain & Spanish-related articles. Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:03, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

2013 Buenos Aires train crash
Assistance in expanding the 2013 Buenos Aires train crash article from Spanish language sources would be appreciated. Mjroots (talk) 22:32, 19 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm working on it Cambalachero (talk) 01:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

The Missing
Apparently I am not logged in. My name is Robyn Dunstan. My email (s) are : robyn_ld@bigpond.net.au /robynd@bpsrecovery.com.au.

Please tell me any thing - about the missing.

No - one has accounted for this tragedy.

Wikipedia (Argentina) ... should be able to help. At Last.

Let the world know what really happened to your LOST brothers & sisters.

Much Love ... Robyn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.173.75 (talk) 06:01, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Election results
I have compiled the results for the October elections (votes and seats), but do not have the new seat totals for the parties in Congress. Does anyone know where I can find them? The official website only seems to list by blocs (i.e. major parties and allies). Cheers, Number   5  7  22:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update
As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at ~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man ) 04:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Project banner
I propose to remove the image File:WikiProject Argentina.svg from the project banner, and replace it with the flag of Argentina as it is. That's what most wikiprojects on countries do. Cambalachero (talk) 18:36, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I personally disagree; I am of the opinion that our logo looks better and more original than a flag and, considering that it has been used for such a long time, it has become part of our identity as a WikiProject. Moreover, whereas it is true that the banners of most country-specific WikiProjects seem to depict flags, there is a substantial number that do not.
 * The templates for Canada, Chile, Colombia, Croatia, Denmark, Peru, the Philippines, Russia, Sweden, Turkey, and the United States show logos.
 * The templates for Albania, Hungary, Paraguay, Portugal, and Serbia show national coats of arms.
 * The template for Greece shows a painting.
 * The template for Japan shows a photograph.
 * --190.19.107.25 (talk) 00:07, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Good news, everyone!
Some months ago, a huge number of Argentine photos from 1971 and onwards were being deleted from Commons because of the URAA. The consensus has now changed, and now it was decided that "URAA cannot be used as the sole reason for deletion. Deleted files can be restored after a discussion in COM:UDR. Potentially URAA-affected files should be tagged with ." See here Cambalachero (talk) 16:43, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

AfD regarding Morocho
I know nothing about the word or the term Morocho, whether it is notable enough to have its own article, or should be merged/redirected somewhere else. Please see Articles for deletion/Morocho. Thank you.--Animalparty-- (talk) 07:35, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014
You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in the Americas may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Argentina At Wikimania 2014
Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to: Project leaflets Adikhajuria (talk) 17:10, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses
Pleas add information about this country to this articles.--Kaiyr (talk) 05:44, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Message
I recently tried the { { WikiProjectNotice|Argentina } } to advertise the project on a talk page but it is not working. Savvyjack23 (talk) 23:57, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

"Argentine Criollo"
FYI, the usage of "Argentine Criollo" is up for discussion, see Talk:Anglo-Nubian -- 65.94.171.225 (talk) 05:45, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Today's Featured Article discussion
Please see Today's featured article/requests/2013 Rosario gas explosion. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:08, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Argentine units of measurement
This is a new article: Argentine units of measurement; it is one of many contributed by an editor who appears to be copying verbatim from at least one dubious source. Could someone look at it and assess its accuracy? I can see oddities: under 'capacity' there are two lists, one of German names copied from one book, and the other of Spanish names copied from a different book. Does not seem very plausible.

Other discussion places


 * Johnuniq sandbox list - discussion of this editor's contributions
 * Cardarelli critique - looks at one reference which contains many dubious claims

Thanks! Imaginatorium (talk) 06:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!


Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Graduados
There is a current FAC for the Argentine telenovela Graduados at Featured article candidates/Graduados/archive1. Reviews would be welcomed. Cambalachero (talk) 16:38, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Railway and Transport Articles
Are there plans to update any of the rail transport related articles? There has been a lot going on recently and they are mostlly very out of date, from commuter rail articles to Subte-related articles. I wouldn't mind helping with a bit of guidance. Segata 123 (talk) 22:17, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

I am making improvements to some transport articles including Transport in Argentina and Tren de las sierras, though I will try to improve a few more articles. I also wish to request the creation of EcoBici (Buenos Aires).88.106.188.72 (talk) 22:41, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I (and others) have made major improvements to a few pages and would like to request re-evaluation as they have not been assessed in a while. Some of these pages were simply not included in the WikiProject and I have added them, they would also need evaluation. These are: Rail transport in Argentina, Transport in Argentina, Tren a las Nubes, Tren de las Sierras, Line E (Buenos Aires Underground), PreMetro E2 (Buenos Aires), Line C (Buenos Aires Underground), Line H (Buenos Aires Underground). I have also created two new pages which are currently unassessed: Posadas-Encarnacion International Train and Grupo Emepa. I'm sorry to dump a lot here and I'm aware that many of these won't get seen, but I will leave them here for future reference. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 22:58, 7 April 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ Cambalachero (talk) 13:47, 8 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Though I agree with all your assessments and am very grateful, I have one disagreement in the importance rank of Rail transport in Argentina as I think this should be "Top" importance rather than "High" and also be made a vital article like Transport in Argentina. The reason for this is not only that it is a significant means of transport, but also the subject includes important parts of Argentine history and I simply see it as being far more important than the individual Subte lines since it covers a lot more ground. Though obviously rail transport is not as important as it once was, I think in a historical context it is extremely significant in the country. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 14:29, 8 April 2015 (UTC)


 * A few more new articles: Trams in Buenos Aires, Ferrocarriles Argentinos (2015), Federico Lacroze, Península Valdés Railway, Puerto Deseado Railway and Polvorín Workshop. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 21:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

New article
Just wanted to let you know my Gaucho brothers and sisters that i started a new article that should be reviewed by other project members and has to do with Argentina. I don't know how to-or if it is appropriate to-list this on the project's page. Well the article is Contra Las Cuerdas. Muchas gracias y Dios los bendiga! Antonio novio de Luisana Lopilato Martin (por aqui) 08:20, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Move Request
Talk:Paraguayan War

The above move request may be of interest to this group. WCM email 23:00, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

British invasions of the Río de la Plata listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for British invasions of the Río de la Plata to be moved to British invasions of the River Plate. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:33, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

CPA - cara de manzana
What is "cara de manzana"? Eldizzino (talk) 16:51, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Cara (side) and manzana (city block), so cara de manzana is side of a city block. Assuming your average square city block, it would have 4 sides or caras. Don't confuse with Manzana, Spanish for Apple, in this context, Manzana is an old unit of measure equivalent to a hectare. 181.41.237.81 (talk) 20:36, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Economy of Argentina
I want to draw the attention of active editors towards the edits of a few particular users pushing a very right-wing POV in articles related to the Argentine economy such as this one, or ones to do with YPF and Vulture funds, etc. Though I am seeking outside mediation for the Economy of Argentina article and it would be best to not include too many parties from this wikiproject for fear of an all-out editing war, I think editors should keep an eye on these articles for POV-pushing and systemic bias (which this wikiproject aims to counter). Though I have not been on Wikipedia long, I am beginning to understand why there are so few editors left on wikiprojects like this one, which is a shame because if things continue as they do then Wikipedia will become predominantly a mouthpiece of the right-wing British press and financial institutions rather than and provider of objective encyclopaedic information. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 18:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride!
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help?
I'm not sure that anyone here can help, but if one doesn't ask, one will never get. There has apparently been a change in websites for the Argentine Ministry of Culture. Whoever did the change, seems to have broken all of the links to their site. just one example. There are hundreds, if not thousands of links to this site on both English and Spanish Wikipedia, Wikicommons, and maybe others but I don't use other Wikis so cannot say for sure. That is just the impact to Wikipedia. I am sure that the issue impacts anyone who may have had a link to their site. My Spanish is insufficient to evaluate the pages on the new site and find what I want and a search does not get me to any page that identifies cultural figures. Thus if I plug in say "Anita Bence" on the search engine at the new site, I get no results at all. "No se encontraron resultados para la búsqueda". (This is important, as we were working on a GA nomination). How is that even possible that there are no results on such a notable part of Argentine cultural history? I guess my question is multi-fold: Thank you. Any help will be appreciated. this may be something you need to know about. SusunW (talk) 14:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Are they aware they did this? (Surely it was not their intent to create reference problems)
 * 2) Is there a way to notify them that they did this and see if they can correct it?
 * 3) If the answer to #2 is no, can anyone find the equivalent sourcing pages on their new site in the hopes that from our side we could have a bot correct all the links? I don't even know if that would be possible, I am not technically skilled, but it seems to me that there surely is a way to link the old address to the new address.
 * Yes I know, see my post on User:Calliopejen1's talk page. It's a massive blow because it was such a tremendous resource. I don't know what has happened, but the site has been taken down.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The twitter account for the City of Buenos Aires is here, and the facebook page is here. The facebook page for the BA Ministry of Culture is here. (The website seems to have been a city Ministry of Culture initiative rather than a national initiative.)  You could try contacting someone through one of those pages? Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Emilio F. Mignone - help needed for a draft about a sensitive topic
Hello Argentina experts. This draft appears to be about a notable person - there are many references available. However, it also seems to be a controversial topic. Knowing very little about politics in Argentina, I am hoping that someone from this project will help to get the draft ready for mainspace, and check the references I added for reliability.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 23:17, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Cleanup needed for Gigantes del Sur
I created Gigantes del Sur based on es:Gigantes del Sur. It needs some major cleanup and expansion. See the edit history for the original Spanish version and a rough translation before I removed all of the essay-like materials. Unfortunately that removal also took out a lot of the team's history.

If you can read Spanish, are familiar with Volleyball in Argentina, or are familiar with sports-related templates, your expertise is especially valuable. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  23:18, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Climate of Argentina
I am thinking of uploading climatic maps of Argentina from reliable sources such as INTA and CONICET. However, I am unsure about their terms and conditions regarding the usage of images for CONICET and INTA. They have really good maps for temperature and precipitation, particularly the INTA one. Could someone clarify this? I do not know that much Spanish. Thanks. Although I have search for free images on the web and on Wikimedia commons, the precipitation map is very bad as it is only in inches and may be inaccurate as it has no source attributed to it. The temperature map is okay although the INTA ones have very good resolution and looks really nice.

I did realized that the images are for non–commercial uses, which makes them not free images according to Wikipedia. Could someone send an email to both of them requesting that they license the selected images with a suitable one for Wikipedia. I am not sure how the emailing works nor do I know how to email an entire message in Spanish (to avoid any complications) so if someone with fluent Spanish can do it, that would much be appreciated. Thanks

The map links are Temperature from CONICET,, Temperature map from INTA and Precipitation map from INTA. Ssbbplayer (talk) 03:58, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

RfC for requested page move of United Provinces of the River Plate
The renaming of this page has been discussed for some time, we would appreciate your involvement and voicing your input on the appropriate title for this article. Please see the discussion here. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:20, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Subte
Hello there! and I have copy edited this article and are about to update the mainspace version today (from a sandbox draft). We're planning on nominating it to GA status as well. If any of you is interested in joining the effort, please do! Regards, FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  19:37, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

History of South America
I've been working on History of South America. Any assistance with copy editing would be much appreciated. -- Marek . 69    talk  22:33, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

[]
Hi! I'm running an editathon to raise the profile of female Antarctic researchers. I'd really like to profile Viviana Alder. Hr initial page is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Viviana_Alder

However, I can't speak Spanish and I think I might be missing some really useful references. Any help to improve her page would be greatly appreciated!

Janstrugnell (talk) 11:21, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Notice to participants at this page about adminship
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Help with an article?
I'm going to post this in a few places just so it gets a good amount of people looking at the article in question. The article for Animal World, the first published book by Antonio di Benedetto, is up for deletion. It looks like there should be coverage out there, as there is mention here and there about the book getting various accolades including a national prize, but I can't really find much. This is partially because of the language barrier, as most coverage is going to be in Spanish, but it's also likely because most of the coverage predated the Internet and as such may not be on the Internet as a whole or in places that we'd all know to check.

Anyone here want to see what they can find? It might be a good chance for a WP:HEY rescue. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:00, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to Women in Food and Drink editathon
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Latin American 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Latin America/The 10,000 Challenge ‎ has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Brazil, Mexico, Peru and Argentina etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Latin American content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 350 articles in just six days. If you would like to see this happening for Latin America, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Latin America, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thankyou.♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

FLC for Latin Grammy Hall of Fame
I nominated the article for Latin Grammy Hall of Fame for FLC. The Latin Grammy Hall of Fame contains several recordings done by Argentine artists inducted into the hall of fame. I'd appreciate thee feedback! Erick (talk) 01:41, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Cannabis in Argentina needs improvement
We have a new article Cannabis in Argentina, but it could really use improvement and expansion, especially from anyone who can read Spanish sources. With a little polishing, it'd also be really useful to make a translated version for Spanish Wikipedia since it's a topic of increasing interesting these days. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 03:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages
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AfD Argentina related
There is an Argentina related AfD discussion under way @ AfD Nicolas Aguirre. Tapered (talk) 01:53, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report
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Página 12
Hola!, I was trying to update the article of Página 12 newspaper, I may need some help to improve it and make it right. I think it represents an important piece of history of Argentine journalism, and history of the country itself. Thanks!

Agustin6 —Preceding undated comment added 22:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


 * history of the country itself? You are aware that Pagina 12 has just 2 or 3 decades of existence, right? Cambalachero (talk) 20:34, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

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Argentinian museums on the List of music museums
Hi there, I have introduced the List of music museums, and a couple of Argentinian museums are not yet written in English and do have an article in Argentinian. Are there users at this project that like to write these articles? Best regards, Ymnes (talk) 19:32, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

RfC on election/referendum naming format
An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation). Cheers, Number   5  7  15:34, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Allentiac
There is an article, on Spanish Wikipedia, Idioma allentiac, about a language, now extinct, that was spoken in part of Argentina. I recommend having an article about it on English Wikipedia.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 22:42, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The article exists.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 22:48, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Discussion of an Argentine speleology source at the reliable sources noticeboard
There is a discussion on the reliability of an Argentine speleology publication from Carlos Benedetto of the Instituto Argentino de Investigaciones Espeleológicas (IN.A.E.) at the reliable sources noticeboard. If you are interested, please participate at. —  Newslinger  talk   09:58, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Notability of this band
Hi, a discussion came out: Talk:Venezuela Aid Live. Where we noticed that the article of Bersuit Vergarabat cites zero articles and has a lot of other articles in different languages, most without sources (except Spanish and French?). Anyhow, I am not dealing with that, but it will be nice if somebody checked the notability of that band and looked for reliable sources if the article has the merits to stay. --MaoGo (talk) 16:08, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Argentine or Argentinian for TV naming
There's a discussion at WT:NCTV about which to use for naming articles. Any input would be appreciated. -- Netoholic @ 08:10, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Payún Matrú for Featured Article-hood
Greetings, I have nominated Payún Matrú for a featured article nomination. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. The instructions for the review process are here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:43, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Payún Matrú for Featured Article-hood
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RA nuclear reactors
While creating RV-1 nuclear reactor, I read many claims on how RA-1 Enrico Fermi was one of the first nuclear reactors. In the vogue of Chernobyl (miniseries), I think it is maybe important to develop the article of RA-1 with more details on its characteristics (in RV-1 you can find an infobox) and history. Also an article on RA-2 would be nice due to its mortal nuclear accident.--MaoGo (talk) 13:38, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Up for deletion Andy Auld (pilot)
I've improved sources, but more always helps. Important Falklands War squadron commander and successful pilot. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 11:57, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

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Mauricio Macri
I am reviewing the GA nomination of the article on President Mauricio Macri. The nominator has retired and someone is needed to update the article according to my suggestions. If any of you are interested please let me know. Векочел (talk) 21:52, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Chagas disease FAR
I have nominated Chagas disease for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  20:44, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

RfC on naming of Argentina TV station articles
More input on this topic would be appreciated at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (broadcasting). -- Netoholic @ 12:43, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Merge discussion alert
I'd like to alert members of this WikiProject to my proposal to merge a new article Palermo, Argentina into the long-time article Palermo, Buenos Aires. I figured maybe there had been a municipal split, but then I figured that information would have been added to the article, and I find no sources elsewhere confirming that or suggesting that there's already a city or town called Palermo in the vicinity of Buenos Aires that's different from the expansive Palermo area of Buenos Aires. Even if it is a matter of a former neighborhood incorporating into a distinct municipality, the appropriate action here would have been to move the existing article, not create a new one. Largoplazo (talk) 16:26, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Assessments, added Statistics section
Greetings, For Argentina WP, I added progression, pie graph, rainbow; added wikilinks "Quality operations" and "Popular pages". Note that some of these templates use "Argentine" instead of "Argentina". JoeNMLC (talk) 18:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Category:WikiProject South America projects has been nominated for renaming
Category:WikiProject South America projects has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. —⁠andrybak (talk) 11:48, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Spanish-language sources needed for Argentine film article
Would someone be willing to help find sources for Heroine (1972 film) (Heroína)? It's currently up for deletion, but I suspect there are reliable sources out there in Spanish. Thanks. ~EdGl  talk  15:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Request for collaboration—Cueva de las Manos
I've made significant additions to the article on Cueva de las Manos, and I would love it if anyone from WikiProject Argentina would visit the page and provide input/help with editing. It's currently rated B class and I'm hoping to get it to GA status. Please feel free to stop by and help with the article. Thank you in advance! Tyrone Madera (talk) 21:28, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Attack on HMS Invincible up for deletion
Revisiting the Falklands/Malvinas war. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 14:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Pedro Pablo Ramírez
Recently, a user has added edits to the Pedro Pablo Ramírez page claiming that he was a fascist, I tried to revert it but then another user came in and reinstated them, the only source being used to classify him as a fascist seems to be from 1943, and at the time the U.S. was pressuring Argentina to declare war on the Axis powers, so its reliability is dubious, it seems that there is no modern source that actually tries to argue that he was a fascist, though I could be wrong, but I would like to see WikiProject Argentina intervene on the dispute, I believe it is in a better position to solve it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pedro_Pablo_Ram%C3%ADrez -- 201.20.127.160 (talk) 06:54, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Adding template to talk pages
Hi, I just recently joined the project. What is the policy regarding adding the project's template to articles? I recently added the template to the talkpage an article about the theoretical Islas del Atlántico del Sur department, which was removed by another user (not a member of this project) who stated it was not part of the scope of this project. Is there some procedure by which an article is accepted as part of the project? Boynamedsue (talk) 17:41, 23 June 2021 (UTC)


 * It seems that we are talking about Islas del Atlántico Sur Department, now a redirect (and before that, it had this content]). If I understood it correctly, it seems to be about a subdivision of the Tierra del Fuego Province, Argentina, composed by territories claimed by Argentina. Let me get this straight... an article about a political territory with no actual territories under its control? Does such a thing even exist anywhere, besides papers? That's only worth a footnote in the article about the province, perhaps a redirect, and nothing else. That article is redundant and we don't need it.


 * As for the talk page template, the purpose is to inform casual users about this project, and to help the project itself by categorizing the talk pages by article development (from stub to featured) and by overall priority for the project. We do not "own" any article or talk page, and nobody has exclusive rights to add or remove those templates. In this specific case, if adding the template simply aggravates the discussion, then ignore it and don't place it. Cambalachero (talk) 17:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that makes sense in terms of templates. Paper governmental divisions can clearly be notable if they have sufficient coverage in secondary sources. As this page exists in other WP's, it looked to me like the article had been incorrectly deleted, especially given the edit summary used. Having said that, I have had a good look in Spanish and English on-line sources, and I'm not convinced that there is enough there to satisfy WP:GNG. There could be offline, but I am not going to be looking for it. Boynamedsue (talk) 19:41, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

This discussion proposes to update WP:PLACEDAB and the way Argentinian cities are disambiguated.
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names) § WP:PLACEDAB and disambiguating by state/province. 162 etc. (talk) 22:30, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

TFA nomination for Chagas disease
I have nominated Chagas disease to appear as today's featured article for an unspecified date. Please click here if you would like to join the discussion. Z1720 (talk) 18:14, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Pa Mis Muchachas
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pa Mis Muchachas that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 05:02, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red translation contest: April to June 2022
At the beginning of April, WikiProject Women in Red is launching a three-month translation contest focused on increasing our coverage of women's biographies. As the Spanish version of Wikipedia is one of the more popular sources for translation, members of WikiProject Argentina may be interested in participating.--Ipigott (talk) 09:29, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

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Requested move at Talk:Death and state funeral of Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Death and state funeral of Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 10:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

That probably was cryptic... why do we care about that? This RM involves about 50 state funeral articles, including at least one that is related to this WP. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:13, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Good article reassessment of Mauricio Macri
Mauricio Macri has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. SeeAlsoPolice (talk) 22:32, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Mariano Moreno
Mariano Moreno has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:01, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Just noting that the original nominator is not able to improve the article, so that outside help is very much appreciated. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 07:46, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Buenos_Aires_Underground
Publicising RM. ---  Tbf69   P •&#32;T 12:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments are used by Wikipedia editors to rate the quality of articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project decides to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:10, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Cities
It recently came to my attention that a few months ago, an editor named bulldozed their way through, comprehensively adding the trio of ,  and "Province category that duplicates the 'Populated places in Province' category that the place is already in" practically right across the board. I've already cleaned out the base country category, and can proceed with cleaning out the "Populated places in province" + "Province" duplication — but as I'm not particularly knowledgeable about Argentina, I don't know and can't easily determine which places do or don't actually belong in — so could somebody associated with this project take a spin through that category to determine what belongs there and what doesn't? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 15:27, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Juan Martín del Potro
Juan Martín del Potro has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Questioning notability of Anita Bobasso and Jorge Perez Evelyn
During arguments with another user over content within these articles (the latter of which is a WP:COMMONNAME argument), I have performed a WP:BEFORE on both of these subjects and could not find any sources to establish notability for either of them. While my next step is an attempt at deletion, I do not see any success with a PROD, and while I would like to send one or both of these articles to AfD, I am currently not inclined. Is there anyone more experienced with these subjects able to assess these articles and see if it's possible to AfD? I will support deletion if the arguments are strong enough. Thanks! Jalen Folf  (talk)  16:58, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon
 Hello WikiProject Argentina:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a  month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there! Grnrchst (talk) 12:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)