Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bagpipes/archive 1

Talk
Hey, excellent to see someone's taken the intiative to set something like this up! I'll be trying to flesh out some Australia/New Zealands Pipe Band pages when I get a moment. I've been a member of the Haileybury College Pipes and Drums(Current Australian & South Pacific Juvenile and grade 4 champions, past New Zealand national Champs) for quite some time, and have had affiliation with Australia Highlanders (aka Nunawadding).


 * Thanks for joining the project. Hopefully this was a good idea, I've already learned tons about pipe bands from doing those infoboxes.  I play with Elliott Bay PB in Seattle, we placed 14th in grade 3B at the 2005 world championships.--Musaabdulrashid 05:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Oz
I don't know about other PipeBand associations or organisations in the world, but in Australia they don't have many member bands - little enough that one could potentially list them on the appropriate wikipage. I've tinkered with this idea in Talk:Victorian Highland Pipe Band Association and gummAY 12:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * There is currently a global list of pipe bands, but as of now it is only external links. I dont know if it would be best to have a separate page for AU/NZ pipebands, or if they could just be listed there.  We should do somthing with that page though, or it will be deleted.--Musaabdulrashid 05:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Noted. On that page I've started turning what external links into wiki links I could. I don't think a separate list is needed for AU/NZ pipebands, but I get the feeling that not a great deal of them would be notable enough to be included on the global list, hence I've put them on the relavent state association pages, so we can say the members of that state. *shrug* happy to follow your lead on this. --gummAY 05:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

open tasks
WikiProjectPipeBandTasks

here is our template for open tasks, which can be easily edited.--Musaabdulrashid 22:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Infobox
Maybe Pipe Sergeant should be added to the infobox. Also, please correct the spelling (sergeant, not sergant). JFPerry 00:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

If we're doing Pipe Sergeant, how about Drum Major? --gummAY 05:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Good ideas, as of now though we have no acctual template for the infobox, just the static one on this page that you can copy and paste onto other articles, so we need to go to every article and change add the the second e to sergeant. You can also add P/S to all the infoboxes very easily, though many pipe bands don't list them very prominently, and not that many have drum majors.  If anyone can figure out how to get the infobox to work with a template we could definetly put it in there.  Generally, what does everyone think of the purple (thistle) infobox below the grey one? --Musaabdulrashid 01:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Grading System
Almost every band page we've written refers to it ... but I can't find good sources to actually write the article. Has anyone else got any? --gummAY 11:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * the page on Pipe bands lists grading systems in scotland, and I put the British Columbia Pipers Association's grading system in their page.--Musaabdulrashid 02:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * How about using the format grade X to link to a definition of the grading system? It's not a dedicated article, but at least it gives a description of the system. Thoughts? --MatthewLiberal 20:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops, I just realized that Musaabdulrashid has already done that by using Pipe_band instead. Either one works - it's the same text in the definition - but sorry for the redundancy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewLiberal (talk • contribs) 20:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Template created!
The most exciting moment thus far into the project had arrived: we have an infobox tenplate. It is not perfectly as I envisioned it, but it should work fine until we get it perfect. Obviously, we wil now need to go to all the pipe band articles (all 21 of them, or whatever) and replace the old static infobox with the new spiffy template.--Musaabdulrashid 20:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Ideal infobox
I have moved this from the project page to the talk page because it resembles more of an internal discussion than a public statement--Musaabdulrashid 02:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC) 



'''Simon Fraser University Pipe Band



Here is a more ideal infobox, which is unfortunately very difficult to make a template for. see: List of infoboxes/Proposed 

Pipe Band Associations
I notice an article Pipe Band Association has appeared. How to link it in with the rest of the pipe band articles, and the various associations? --gummAY 12:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That article appears to be from late April. I think we could in-text link it from pipe band somehow.--Musaabdulrashid 00:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Project Directory
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 * Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 00:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Userbox for members of Pipe Bands
I made this userbox for members of pipe bands:

To use, type.

Thanks, BagpipingScotsman 01:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Scottish Power Pipe Band
I wrote the article, it could use some improvements but just thought I'd let the masses know. Scotsman  talk  02:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Pipe Band List
Just as Musaabdulrashid predicted the list has become "all inclusive," although the opening paragraph defines the criterion. I don't want to be BOLD until there is some kind of a concensus. See List of Pipe Bands - Discussion. Any suggestions and help would be welcomed. Srebob 18:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)srebob

Other meaning of "piping"
You should definitely clarify in the intro that this has little, if anything, to do with piped links on Wikipedia. Not seeing a picture or anything, that's what I sort of thought at first. $$\sim$$ Lenoxus " * " 18:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Image for templates
I thought the project could use an identifying image for its templates, so I created Image:Bandicon.png. I think it's pretty straightforward, but if anyone has any comments to make, I would love to hear them. Alekjds talk 20:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

2007 offseason
Would be good to see some action here now that the Northern Hemisphere is pretty much in the offseason. How about expanding some of the band articles, and adding pictures? Pipeband77 23 September 2007 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 08:42, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Pipe Band associations
I have just created articles for the main US pipe band associations (EUSPBA, SUSPBA, MWPBA, WUSPBA). They're accessible at list of pipe band associations. Any improvements would be appreciated! It would be great to have a 'members list' showing all the bands in each association, although we certainly don't have articles for all the bands yet. --MatthewLiberal 17:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

New grade two band articles
I just created articles on several grade two bands in the EUSPBA, namely Saffron United Pipe Band, Monaghan Pipe Band, Manchester Pipe Band, and Charleston Police Pipes and Drums. They're not great - mostly stubs - but there's room for expansion! By the way, could someone create categories for grades three and four? (I don't know how to). They exist for one and two, so it seems like we should be 'fair and balanced.' --MatthewLiberal 19:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

To add a category, just add the tag and the category will be created. It might take a day or two as a Wikipedia guru needs to verify its worthy of an official tag. --Pipeband77 19:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Notability and citations missing tags
Just FYI to the champions in this project, I have tagged 1/2 of the articles listed under Category:Pipe bands and will finish the other 1/2 soon. Existence is not proof of notability, and while some of the pipe band articles assert their notability, almost all lack reliable sources. I think many are vanity articles that will not meet WP policy with closer examination. • Freechild   'sup?   18:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Userbox for WikiProject Pipe Bands members
I designed an updated Userbox for members of this Project, using Image:Bandicon.png. Any comments for or against adoption as an updated Template? B. C. Schmerker (talk) 04:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Sample Userbox: User:B.C.Schmerker/User boxes/User WPPipeBands