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Sydney Johnson USA Basketball role
I am having a bit of trouble understanding which role Sydney Johnson had for USA Basketball that is described as "a team scout for the USA Basketball February 2020 FIBA AmeriCup Qualifying Team." I see 2022 FIBA AmeriCup qualification and does not include a 2020 team.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * 2022 FIBA AmeriCup qualification spanned from 2018 until 2021, with the USA playing between Feb 2020 and Feb 2021. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

photo evaluation on Victor Hampton (American football)

 * ''cross-posted from

The person pictured on Victor Hampton (American football) is playing basketball, but there's no mention of any basketball career. While the Flickr page says it's Victor Hampton and it's a Gamecocks account (and he played for the South Carolina Gamecocks football team), I wonder if there is any chance it's the wrong guy.

Would someone with more sports knowledge help out here? = paul2520 💬 19:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi . Honestly, I wouldn't recognize Victor Hampton, but looking at the Flickr link, the picture seems to have been taken at a charity basketball game, rather than an official college basketball event. There were probably several people involved who were locally notable but not members of the South Carolina basketball team. Zagal e jo (talk) 01:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That makes sense & is a relief. Thank you, ! = paul2520 💬 02:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Note
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpe_Adria_Cup

Article forbids linking countries... 93.143.139.254 (talk) 13:24, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * According to Wikipedia rules, wikilink should not be used for countries. Maiō T. (talk) 16:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

National under-16 and under-17 basketball team
A national under-16 team that advances from a continental championship to a world championship will automatically become a national under-17 team. Many articles use both age categories in the title. And many don't. Compare these examples: So I would propose that all under-17 articles be renamed to "(Country) men's/women's national under-16 and under-17 basketball team". Could you comment on that? Thanks. (My proposal also applies to U18/U19 teams.) Maiō T. (talk) 16:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Germany men's national under-16 and under-17 basketball team
 * Germany women's national under-17 basketball team


 * There is one more thing to note: FIBA Americas and FIBA Oceania also organize under-15 championships. So if we take Australia for example, the name of the article should look something like this:
 * Australia men's national under-15, under-16 and under-17 basketball team
 * It's all the same team that plays three championships in three years. (The proposed title is quite long; it might be better to write it as ...under-15/16/17...) I've been waiting for someone to answer me for ten days. This debate needs to get going. User:Pelmeen10, we recently talked about this topic, could you comment here as well? Maiō T. (talk) 11:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I would've made the u-16 the article name then redirect u-17 to it. Only 16(?) teams qualify to the u-x world championship and for most countries the u-16 and the u-18 are the primary teams. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:53, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The article title needs to reflect the content too, so teams not participating in both competitions don't need the change, but those who do - yes, I support the rename. I haven't yet familiarized myself too much with the non-european teams. Have you checked all the articles and write it more clear what articles would you like to rename? In "current title → new title" format.
 * I would say go ahead and rename the pages if nobody disagrees. If you don't get enough feedback, or would like include more participants, you can start a page moving process. Check Requested moves Pelmeen10 (talk) 16:09, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Your idea is romantic. If it was the only proposal, I would vote for it. But now, there is the proposal that I and Pelmeen10 support.
 * Do you think I should add those articles for renaming here to this discussion? Maybe there will be a hundred of them...


 * Belgium women's national under-17 basketball team → Belgium women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * Czech Republic women's national under-17 basketball team → Czech Republic women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * France women's national under-17 basketball team → France women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * Germany women's national under-17 basketball team → Germany women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * Hungary women's national under-17 basketball team → Hungary women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * Italy women's national under-17 basketball team → Italy women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * Latvia women's national under-17 basketball team → Latvia women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * Portugal women's national under-17 basketball team → Portugal women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * Russia women's national under-17 basketball team → Russia women's national under-16/17 basketball team
 * This is the European Women's U17 category. I'll look at the other categories tomorrow, it's late tonight. Maiō T. (talk) 20:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

New Zealand men's national basketball team
I have tagged New Zealand men's national basketball team with too many sections and very long. Just reaching out here to gauge interest in any clean up. Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I assume the edits in question were related to the likely block evader? The WP:EVASION policy says:  —Bagumba (talk) 05:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The page was edited heavily by a now-blocked user. I'm not seeking to have all their contributions reverted, but rather checking if anyone else agrees that the page has too many sections and is too long. DaHuzyBru (talk) 13:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Got it. If the topic should remain ambiguous, you should feel comfortable to pare it down, if you choose. Best. —Bagumba (talk) 13:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Oldest basketball player
I have started a discussion at Talk:List of oldest professional athletes by sport. I have found newspaper articles that confirm Whitey Von Nieda appeared in a professional game in 1978 when he would have been aged 55; neither source mentions his age. Any assistance in how to prove this feat would be appreciated. CalDoesIt (talk) 05:18, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Naming college teams in national team rosters
In 2024 FIBA Men's Olympic Qualifying Tournaments squads, how should college teams be labeled? Via their full athletic name (like "Utah Utes"), or the short name of the college (such as "Sacramento State"), or the long name of the college (such as "Ateneo de Manila University").

In infoboxes for players, we use the short name (so it's "Texas" for Kevin Durant), and for coaches, it's still the short name (so Rick Pitino coached for "Kentucky", "Louisville" and "Boston Celtics"). In soccer/football infoboxes, it seems they use the athletic name of the college (like "Indiana Hoosiers"). We do need guidance on this so that there'd be a standard. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)


 * 2020 FIBA Men's Olympic Qualifying Tournaments squads looks like a mixed bag too, with both plain college names and then some like "Davidson Wildcats" and "Iowa State Cyclones". It seems like coaches who were in college and pros use just the college name interspersed with the full pro teams' names e.g. Larry Brown (basketball).  I'm inclined to list the full college name for natl team rosters. —Bagumba (talk) 21:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * By "full college name" meaning "Davidson College" instead of "Davidson Wildcats", is that right? Howard the Duck (talk) 12:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant the full school+team name e.g. "Iowa State Cyclones" and not plain "Iowa State". —Bagumba (talk) 12:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, that's noted. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As for infoboxes, it's just the college name, like "Kentucky". Is that right? Howard the Duck (talk) 12:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's consistent for college as documented at Template:Infobox basketball biography. I'd be open to using the school+team name for the "Career history" section of college coaches also, but WP:CBBALL should be involved in that discussion. —Bagumba (talk) 13:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * TBH, I'd be okay with whatever is adopted/is the standard, it's just that we have to stick with it. AFAIK you guys had a discussion about this a few years back and I don't think any of the positions have changed since then and I'd be okay with whatever was agreed upon. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:13, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd also say that using just the college name for coached teams should be documented as well, if it hasn't already. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * One of WP's many de facto standards. —Bagumba (talk) 13:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I have a follow-up question. Some people may have coached men's and women's college basketball teams in their career. How are these distinguished? What if a person coach both the men's and women's teams in some point? Howard the Duck (talk) 22:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Not sure if this is a standard, but Paul Westhead and Michael Cooper put (men's) and (womens's) next to college teams, but not for pro. —Bagumba (talk) 04:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I guess pro teams don't need this as they use full names.
 * College teams in the US have mostly the same names for men and women's teama tho, e.g. basketball teams of either sex in Duke are both the "Blue Devils". Howard the Duck (talk) 09:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I have another question: the "default" is for you to assume that someone coached a men's team; however it's not always clear cut. Geno Auriemma apparently coached women's teams exclusively, and the infobox doesn't specify that; you'd have to check each team, and yes, all of those were women's teams. I suppose someone has to have a bare minimum of knowledge to know this, or maybe read the lead. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Olympics
For anyone who's in an article-creating mood, the 2024 Summer Olympics starts in two weeks and there's several qualified basketball players missing articles: see up to 5 in the men's 5x5 tournament, up to 32 in the women's 5x5 (though not all rosters finalized), 12 in the men's 3x3, and 10 in the women's 3x3. Any with interesting facts can be featured at DYK during the Olympics; see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know for more information. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

3x3 Cup anomalies
This is the first time I see two different articles of the same competition having 2 seperate articles, while the main article is made into a disambig. page
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 Europe Cup (currently disam page)
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 Europe Cup – Men's tournament
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 Europe Cup – Women's tournament
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 AmeriCup (currently disam page)
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 AmeriCup – Men's tournament
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 AmeriCup – Women's tournament
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 Asia Cup (currently disam page)
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 Asia Cup – Men's tournament
 * 2024 FIBA 3x3 Asia Cup – Women's tournament

My question is why? The two articles also duplicate some information. I'm not sure if this is against MoS anyway. But there should be the main tournament page, and only if necessary, the subpages (men's and women's) to cover the topic in more detail. I tried to make 2024 FIBA 3x3 Europe Cup into an article, but i was reverted by the creator. Pelmeen10 (talk) 23:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)