Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball/Archive 20

Players who didn't play for champion teams
Say a player is in the active roster for a team, suited up every game but never played a single game for some reason (most likely coach's decision), then that team won the title. That player got included in the awarding ceremony and got his own ring or something. My question is, do we add that achievement to that player's infobox highlights? I cannot find a case in the NBA where a player didn't play any game, but is in the active roster, both in the regular season and playoff for a champion team. Dieter Lloyd   Wexler 16:36, 14 February 2024 (UTC)


 * If a player did not play a game for a team, his supposed team won't even be listed in the infobox; so to answer your question, no. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Unless he was injured for the season. Joel Embiid is listed as a player for the 76ers from 2014 despite not playing any games during the 2014-15 and 2015-16 seasons. Alvaldi (talk) 18:15, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Apparently this was discussed before. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association/Archive 34, with the Embiid example. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:09, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * See WP:NBARING. WP:NBA only lists if player was on playoff roster, regardless if they played or not. —Bagumba (talk) 20:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

why is the answer to this important if it has never occurred before? Rikster2 (talk) 20:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)


 * It might not be in the NBA, but it has in the PBA, considering that tournaments are very short. Dieter Lloyd   Wexler 21:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

CBA non-roster players
I am working on User:TonyTheTiger/sandbox/Todd Leslie. Did the CBA have a practice squad of non-roster players?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:National Basketball Association
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:National Basketball Association that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. -- Zoo  Blazer   06:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested multiple moves at Talk:1992 PBA All-Filipino Conference Finals
A request for multiple pages to be moved is taking place at Talk:1992 PBA All-Filipino Conference Finals, which may interest this WikiProject's members. GoodDay (talk) 16:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Carrying (basketball)


The article Carrying (basketball) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Carrying is colloquial but I have not come across a rule book or ruleset that lists carry(ing) as a violation. From what I've come across, the rulesets define the carry as the hand dropping below the basketball, but it only serves to stop a live dribble. If a player dribbles again after stopping his dribble, whether or not a carry is used to stop the dribble, a double dribble violation is called. If a player lifts his pivot foot after stopping his dribble and places it back down without shooting or passing the ball, whether or not a carry is used to stop the dribble, a traveling violation is called. Suffice it to say there is no carry violation in the rule book."

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 * I don't think this is a good prod candidate. It needs more eyes on it. There is some legitimate confusion over what constitutes "carrying," but the term commonly appears in basketball discourse (for example, ). Zagal e jo (talk) 23:08, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Isn't "carrying" another form of traveling (basketball)? As WP:ATD, it should be redirected instead to that article. Howard the Duck (talk) 00:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * There are separate hand signals for traveling and carrying (see page 63 of FIBA's rules). Zagal e jo (talk) 04:27, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ooooh so these are different violations, at least FIBA-wise, right? Howard the Duck (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It appears so. Zagal e jo (talk) 22:52, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

About Draft:Alimat Abiola
Hello all,

This draft is currently (about 10 am UTC 18 Mar 2024) tagged for speedy speedy deletion.

As you can see, the draft's only references are from EuroBasket statistics.

It would appear from this and this that she may have played College Basketball for the - "(EX Arkanases, USA)", in that "leadership.ng" mention but presumably Arkansas Razorbacks women's basketball, and may well have been picked as a participant in the Nigeria women's national basketball team in "call-up list of players" (sports247.ng mention) for preliminary matches leading up to Women's basketball at the 2024 Summer Olympics.

I would appreciate your opinions and assistance with this.

Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:18, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I've cleaned it up and it is no longer tagged for speedy speedy deletion. It does however need significant coverage to be moved back to mainspace. She seems to come from England and attended three colleges in the United States where she played college basketball. I only did a brief search for sources but didn't come up with anything that was both independent of the subject and significant. Alvaldi (talk) 11:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

"Referees" or "Officials" in Template:Basketballbox?
There is a discussion relevant to this project at Template talk:Basketballbox, requesting that the word "referees" be replaced by "officials". Please contribute there if you have a comment. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:19, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Professional chronology in articles
I am participating in the WP:CUP. I am trying to score a lot of points at WP:GA. User:AirshipJungleman29 reviewed my Talk:Jordan Murphy (basketball)/GA1 nomination and I am now having second thoughts on my response. It is commonly accepted to have a new subsection for each new team affiliation in a bio. Typically, in these subsections we merely note when a player signed with a team, was traded or left a team. He asked me to try to avoid sequential stubby paragraphs and I merged a bunch of minimal paragraphs. Should I be doing this. Is it O.K. to have limited transaction announcement style paragraphs?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


 * People do it, but it's poor form for GA. Per MOS:OVERSECTION:  —Bagumba (talk) 04:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)