Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Archive 85

Ian Gibbons (biochemist)
Ian Gibbons (biochemist) -- was the Chief Scientist of Theranos, who took his own life amid controversy over the company's technology. Recently expanded article and nominated for Good Article consideration. Thank you, Princessa Unicorn (talk) 03:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Sanctus Real
Sanctus Real has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 02:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Potential AfD for biog article
Biog of Nicolas Sarkis appears to be promoting his book and little else. I can't see what makes the subject notable. The article refers to his book as his 'first' but he has no other publications. There is little that comes up on a search of his name. The biog is mainly sourced from his publisher's website, other citations are dead or deprecated links (one to Bloomberg is generic and takes you to current news). Repetition used to create headings. I will tag it soon if there's no objections. Thelisteninghand (talk) 16:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography
An RM that will be of interest to editors here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:22, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

How to deal with SPA biography editors
How to deal with users convinced (in over 100 edits) that everyone is of a certain nationality, sometimes even in direct contradiction to the sources? It's not wrong enough to be obvious vandalism and there are useful edits as well, but it's wrong often enough to be disturbing. --mfb (talk) 07:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Eddie Izzard
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Eddie Izzard, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. &#x0020; The topic of the discussion is on moving the article due to Izzard's recent name change. Note, I'm making this notification manually as the RM doesn't seem to have been added to the list at the top by the bot. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:43, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Living people articles with talk pages, but no WP:BIOGRAPHY tag
Here's an SQL query that trivially finds living people pages that have talk pages but are not tagged as being under WP:BIOGRAPHY: https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/72401

I hope this is useful. &mdash; The Anome (talk) 16:28, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Notice of RFC on Rod Steiger
For those interested, there's currently a RFC asking should the biography of Rod Steiger include an infobox? Thanks! Nemov (talk) 03:49, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Imadaddin Nasimi
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Imadaddin Nasimi that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. EpicPupper (talk) 01:17, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Tom Westman still under relisted AFD discussion
More input is welcome, especially after two relistings. Link: Articles for deletion/Tom Westman (2nd nomination). George Ho (talk) 10:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Colin Espie
Y'all may want to take a look at Colin Espie: an editor recently added a number of in-text URLs. My recollection is that these are discouraged. 76.14.122.5 (talk) 20:13, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Input requested
A thread has been started at the talk page for regarding recent edits. Any input will be appreciated. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 23:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red April 2023
--Lajmmoore (talk) 07:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Proposed deletion of Robert Wiedemer


The article Robert Wiedemer has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Has failed WP:N for 10.23 years. After cleanup and reconstitution, I found little else to support an article, and what I did failed WP:RSP."

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Good article reassessment for William Bradford (printer, born 1663)
William Bradford (printer, born 1663) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  19:26, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Isaac of Nineveh
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Isaac of Nineveh that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  ❯❯❯  Raydann  (Talk)   09:37, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Discussion of interest
The discussion here, at Talk:Leo Frank, may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Manual of Style/Biography
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. &#x0020;The discussion is about removing the living qualifier from MOS:DEADNAME. Thanks. Sideswipe9th (talk) 23:27, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

First ladies of the United States
I've created a page at User:Thebiguglyalien/First ladies of the United States to track the progress of the U.S. first lady articles, with the goal of getting them all to good article status. I encourage anyone interested in this to look at it and see if there are any articles they'd consider improving. Thebiguglyalien ( talk ) 20:48, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments are used by Wikipedia editors to rate the quality of articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:33, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Garrett Glaser
Someone who might be Garrett Glaser is looking for assistance at WP:HD and I'm wondering if anyone from this WikiProject would mind trying to help them out? I left some general information on their user talk page, but perhaps someone might be able to add to that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Need help with controversial BLP
Page of Marc Gafni has been in kind of an editor war for last ten years. I need help resolving dispute on the talk page, but also over long time, make the article balanced according to WP:NPOV. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Netanya9 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:George O. Petrie
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:George O. Petrie that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Material Works   (contribs)  10:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Li Rui (politician)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Li Rui (politician) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Material Works   (contribs)  13:11, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

One Survivor category still under discussion
The Category:Winners in the Survivor franchise has been relisted and ongoing for a while. Your input there is welcome. George Ho (talk) 22:51, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Help on writing a bio for a notable academic
Hello! I found someone who is super notable, and definitely worthy of an article. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the field he works in to effectively write a biography; and I was hoping someone here would be willing to put in the time. Thanks! I started a draft at Draft:Mark Girolami. There are lots of useful links attached to his Wikidata, so take a look: BhamBoi (talk) 00:35, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:B. J. Pak
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:B. J. Pak that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 02:35, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

James Meade
Hi. For some strange reasons the article about James Meade, an Economics Nobel Prize winner, was missing. I created a stub, but I can't improve it. MrKeefeJohn (talk) 13:12, 17 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Wow. Super notable; surprised be didn't have an article! BhamBoi (talk) 16:10, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:58, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Gene Robinson
Gene Robinson has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:45, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for David L. Cook
David L. Cook has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 18:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Jonathan Stone
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Jonathan Stone that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 12:43, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Request for Review of Simon Duffy (Producer)
Hello, WikiProject Biography and WikiProject Musicians members,

I am reaching out to request a review of my recent submission, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Simon_Duffy_(Producer).

The article focuses on the life and career of Simon Duffy, a notable songwriter/producer who has made significant contributions to the music industry. Given the subject's notability and relevance to the biographical and musician genre, I believe this article falls within the scope of WikiProject Biography and Musicians.

My submission has undergone an initial review, and I have since made necessary revisions based on the feedback provided. However, the review process for the updated version has been delayed, and I am hoping that someone from this WikiProject could help by reviewing the article and providing further guidance or feedback.

I appreciate any assistance you can provide in reviewing this submission, and I am open to making further improvements based on your feedback. Thanks for your consideration.

Sincerely, LeftfieldArchivist LeftfieldArchivist (talk) 10:03, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The same query has been responded to on WikiProject Musicians so it is probably best for the discussion to continue there exclusively, just to keep everything together. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 12:58, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Mike Holloway (Survivor contestant) nominated for deletion
The article Mike Holloway (Survivor contestant) is nominated for deletion. Your input on the nomination is welcome. George Ho (talk) 11:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red May 2023
--Lajmmoore (talk) 18:27, 27 April 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Notice of RfC on Colleen Ballinger
There's currently a RfC asking should the biography of Colleen Ballinger include an infobox? The input of uninvolved editors would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! - Nemov (talk) 19:18, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Leopoldo Saínz de la Maza
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Leopoldo Saínz de la Maza that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 14:14, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Henry Moore
I have nominated Henry Moore for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 15:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

RfC on establishing a biography infobox guideline
You are invited to join the discussion at Village pump (proposals). Nemov (talk) 18:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Tamaz V. Gamkrelidze
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tamaz V. Gamkrelidze that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. SkyWarrior 19:17, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

RfC about WP:COP-HERITAGE
See Wikipedia talk:Categorization of people

WP:FORUMSHOPPING to overturn prior Categories for Discussion results concerning overcategorization by ethnicity. This would change to "at least one" (from zero or one), a major shift for descent and diaspora categories contrary to 18 years of documented guidelines. Most biographies should have zero descent categories, as Categorization of people are sufficient. Some may have one, but there has never been a documented need for two or more, and certainly never "at least one". It could explode the number of such categories. William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:38, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

H.A. Willis
Editors' comments are sought at Talk:H._A._Willis regarding whether the infobox should note that one child has died. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:27, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Tommy Sheehan (Survivor contestant) nominated for deletion
The article Tommy Sheehan (Survivor contestant) is nominated for deletion. Your input there is welcome. George Ho (talk) 23:34, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

List of Survivor (American TV series) winners nominated for deletion
I nominated List of Survivor (American TV series) winners for deletion. Your input there is welcome. George Ho (talk) 19:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Chris Kempczinski
Hello, WikiProject Biography editors! On behalf of McDonald's, I've submitted a few requests to update the page for president and CEO Chris Kempczinski. In addition to a proposed addition about his current tenure, I've suggested adding mention of his Economic Club of Chicago speech and adding additional text about his tenure as president of McDonald's USA. Users Crystallizedcarbon and FeldBum have been helpful in updating the article on my behalf, but there are multiple edit requests which remain open and I'm hoping some editors here may be able to help. Thanks for your consideration. MattMcDonalds (talk) 20:04, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Discussion opened regarding early Chinese aristocrats
There is a proposal that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject to make changes to how surnames of early Chinese figures are defined in a particular infobox at Talk:Chinese surname. Casting a wide net after no interest from more targeted WikiProjects. Folly Mox (talk) 03:36, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Edward III of England Featured article review
I have nominated Edward III of England for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  15:17, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Seeking Reviewers: William Graif
Hello, seeking reviews on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:William_Graif

Please assist in making it publish-worthy, thanks so much! :) Binchy10 (talk) 03:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Early life of Keith Miller Featured article review
I have nominated Early life of Keith Miller for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

RfC on lead of Ronald Reagan
You're invited to particpate in a discussion regarding the lead in the biography of Ronald Reagan. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 13:00, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Brian Halligan
Brian Halligan has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. CMD (talk) 12:18, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Loosey LaDuca
I've nominated Loosey LaDuca (American drag performer) for Good article status, if any project members are interested in improving or reviewing. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Mistress Isabelle Brooks
I've also nominated Mistress Isabelle Brooks for Good status, if any project members care to improve or review. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Infobox officeholder
and I are in disagreement about whether template officeholder should be used for, e.g., deans. See the discussion at Talk:R. Duane Ireland. Input from knowledgeable editors will be appreciated. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 08:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The officeholder infobox is the only way to list the position of dean in the infobox and this is how it is done on most American university dean articles. I have added an academic infobox module to list what is unable to be listed with the officeholder infobox. I don’t think there is any real issue here. Aquabluetesla (talk) 16:50, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Please keep the discussion centralized at Talk:R. Duane Ireland. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 17:40, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Third opinion posted. – Reidgreg (talk) 23:35, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Henrietta Maria
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Henrietta Maria that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. EggRoll97 (talk) 03:42, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Discussion about reality TV players at WT:NBIO
I opened the discussion about reality TV players and WP:NACTOR at WT:NBIO. Link: Wikipedia talk:Notability (people). George Ho (talk) 17:31, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:34, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lester E. Holt


The article Lester E. Holt has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails the notability guideline. Currently cited to two sources: (1) Find a Grave, in contravention of WP:RSP (2) A hand-waved collection of 30 newspapers, seven of which repeat the same information that amounts to 'airplane tester died in crash'."

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Newer discussion at Talk:George Maharis (2023)
Link: Talk:George Maharis. George Ho (talk) 23:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red - June 2023
--Lajmmoore (talk) 09:14, 28 May 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging