Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Board and table games/Archive 5

Games workshop discontinued games
There are major issues with a few articles. I stubified Mordheim after its been left for over 5 years without references, full of fancruft and lists of things (some of which are probable copyright violations) as well as copy pasted text from old websites violating WP:COPYVIO. That page needs attention but so do Necromunda, Man O' War (game), Space Hulk and others. These pages need to brought into line. A lot of info CAN be sourced be level of fancruft on these pages is way too high-- Cailil  talk 00:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Robert Felt UK National Championship-winner 1990?
The article Robert Felt reads "In 1990, Felt became the first Scrabble player to win both the US National Scrabble Championship[4] and the UK Scrabble championship in the same year[...]" ... I can't find that anywhere. Sure, sites like this say the same, but the Association of British Scrabble Players lists Philip Nelkon as winner in 1990 (as does the wikipedia-article National Scrabble Championship (UK)), and the Felt Scrabble results at cross-tables.com don't mention the UK win, either. Some Scrabble experts here? Regards, Gott (talk) 16:58, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Halma board photo
I took a photo of my halma board in case it might be useful in our article. But I'm no photographer, so I wanted to ask whether any of you have thoughts on how it could be improved before I add it in. Thanks. Marnanel (talk) 17:21, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see the point of the box & rules to the side. (Makes it look like an eBay auction photo showing "what you get".) Also image is needs crisp focus. Also crop out any (non-uniform) miscellany at image perimeter. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 19:03, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Authors (card game)
I hope I am doing this right .. I have been researching for over half an hour just to finally find this screen!

I am writing because the history on the page for Authors (card game) doesn't bear up. The page shows the first deck of playing cards, released in 1861, included Louisa May Alcott. This seemed odd to me since Little Women (1868), Alcott's most famous work, depicts a family living through several years of the Civil War (1861-65). Alcott did have one small publication prior to the Civil War, but was hardly a famous author with enough renown works to be part of the game. Further research showed me that Robert Louis Stevenson and Mark Twain, also listed as being in the original deck, had no publications until after the Civil War.

I don't know who was in the original deck, as I don't have one, but I am fairly certain these three authors were not.

Blessings, Heather Wigle Cincinnati, OH

Omadarlin (talk) 11:53, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Middle-earth Collectible Card Game
I added some sources to Middle-earth Collectible Card Game, someone could check if they are sufficient to remove the Unreferenced template ?--Moroboshi (talk) 22:28, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Draft space pages
Draft:Adam Jury and Draft:Steve Crompton are draft space pages related to this WikiProject. If you have any independent reliable sources to add to any of these articles, we may be able to get them moved into article space.

If you are interested in helping out with more drafts, please see my list of draft space pages, and help me reach my goal of eventually getting them all to article space! BOZ (talk) 00:07, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

suggested designers
I can't add any of these people to the site, because I know all of them. But it strikes me that good articles could be written about designers Antoine Bauza, Paul Peterson, Christian T. Petersen, Eric Lang, Donald X. Vaccarino, and Mike Fitzgerald, all of whom are quite well known in our industry. Just a thought. I shall now go back to doing things which I am unbiased about.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:03, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Shogi
FYI a wikiproject for shogi has been proposed. See the proposal at WikiProject Council/Proposals/Shogi -- 70.24.244.161 (talk) 05:36, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Vuoden Aikuistenpeli
There is no article for the Finnish board-game award the Vuoden Aikuistenpeli. It is not included in the List of Game of the Year awards (board games). The Vuoden Peli is awarded in three categories: Family Game of the year (since 1994); Children's Game of the Year (since 1994); and Adult Game of the Year (since 1999). From 1994 to 1998 the categories were just Game of the Year and Children's Game of the Year. The Vuoden Aikuistenpeli is mentioned in the 7 Wonders (board game) article, which was the 2011 Adult Game winner. It is not mentioned in the Alhambra (board game) article. Alhambra was the 2005 winner in the Adult Game category. It is not mentioned in the Ticket to Ride (board game) article, which was the winner in 2005 in the Family Game category. The winner in 2011 in the Family Game category was Forbidden Island (board game), which also does not have an article. --Bejnar (talk) 05:10, 8 May 2014 (UTC).


 * I hate to sound like a jerk, but since these games don't have articles, I would suggest you be bold and start them yourself. Even stubs would be better than no article at all. And it sounds like you have a heaping helping of information (and probably verifiable references) on them already. — Fr&epsilon;ckl&epsilon;fσσt | Talk 14:06, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Board games are not my area of interest at all. I spent just a few minutes to garner that info. The reason I looked up the Vuoden Aikuistenpeli board-game award, was because I was thinking of putting Caribbean (board game) up for deletion, see below. It was listed as a nominee for the Vuoden Aikuistenpeli in 2005. I am not sure whether Vuoden Aikuistenpeli itself is notable or not as "the top board game award" in Finland, but I thought you all might know, or at least have an opinion. --Bejnar (talk) 16:14, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Caribbean (board game)
Is there any reason Caribbean (board game) should not be deleted? It seems to have no claim to notability. --Bejnar (talk) 16:14, 16 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I have posted Caribbean (board game) for deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/Caribbean (board game). --Bejnar (talk) 00:25, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet for Wikiproject Board and Table Games at Wikimania 2014
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Liverpool Rummy
Dear Wiki Editors/Writers: Thanks for providing valuable information on so many topics. I have a question about one of them; i.e., Liverpool Rummy. One of the rules of the game states, "The dealer deals a ten-card hand to each player. (In some circles, a 12-card hand is dealt...)". However, one of the "Objectives" of the game (in Deal #6) is to achieve: One Set of three cards, and Two Runs of four cards. As you can tell, this Objective requires at least 11 cards. Can you confirm that a 10-card deal is correct and/or can you confirm that a player would be required to "buy" a card in order to have an 11 card hand? Thanks, 24.127.232.179 (talk) 13:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)JimW

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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Reliable sources?
Looking through BoardGameGeek's list of linked reviews/articles/podcasts for a game currently at AfD: Terror in Meeple City (BGG page, AfD). As expected, a number of the sources are not in English. What do people think about which should/should not be considered WP:RS? What are the really well known board game websites internationally (and for that matter, what are the reliable sources in English for those of us less familiar)? This would help with AfDs as well as sourcing the articles, I think. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 18:05, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

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Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Hobby Games: The 100 Best
It looks like someone (or multiple people) have gone through and added notes to the games in this book, and the designers who commented on them. They did not get every game, so I am going through them one by one to make sure we have at least something from the book on every game article. Hopefully that will help build the articles that are in better shape, and add notability to those which are not! This concerns articles in both the BTG and RPG WikiProjects.


 * Acquire
 * Amber Diceless
 * Amun-Re
 * Ars Magica
 * Axis & Allies
 * Battle Cry
 * BattleTech
 * Blood Bowl
 * Bohnanza
 * Britannia
 * Button Men
 * Call of Cthulhu
 * Carcassonne
 * Car Wars
 * Champions
 * Circus Maximus
 * Citadels
 * Civilization
 * Cosmic Encounter
 * Cosmic Wimpout
 * Dawn Patrol
 * Descent
 * Diplomacy
 * Dungeons & Dragons
 * Dynasty League Baseball
 * El Grande
 * Empires in Arms
 * Empires of the Middle Ages
 * The Extraordinary Adventures of Baron Munchausen
 * Fire and Fury
 * Flames of War
 * Fluxx
 * Formula Dé
 * The Fury of Dracula
 * A Game of Thrones
 * Gettysburg
 * Ghostbusters
 * The Great Khan Game
 * Hammer of the Scots
 * Here I Stand
 * A House Divided
 * Illuminati
 * Johnny Reb
 * Junta
 * Kingmaker
 * Kremlin
 * Legend of the Five Rings
 * Lensman
 * London's Burning
 * Lord of the Rings
 * Machiavelli
 * Magic: The Gathering
 * Marvel Super Heroes
 * Metamorphosis Alpha
 * My Life with Master
 * Mythos
 * Napoleon's Last Battles
 * Naval War
 * Ogre
 * Once Upon a Time
 * PanzerBlitz
 * Paranoia
 * Pendragon
 * Pirate's Cove
 * Plague!
 * Power Grid
 * Puerto Rico
 * Renaissance of Infantry
 * RoboRally
 * RuneQuest
 * The Settlers of Catan
 * Shadowfist
 * Shadowrun
 * Shadows Over Camelot
 * Silent Death: The Next Millennium
 * Space Hulk
 * Squad Leader
 * Stalingrad
 * Star Fleet Battles
 * The Sword and The Flame
 * Tales of the Arabian Nights
 * Talisman
 * Terrible Swift Sword
 * Thurn and Taxis
 * Ticket to Ride
 * Tigris & Euphrates
 * Tikal
 * Toon
 * Traveller
 * Twilight Struggle
 * Unknown Armies
 * Up Front
 * Vampire: The Eternal Struggle
 * Vampire: The Masquerade
 * Vinci
 * War and Peace
 * Warhammer 40,000
 * The Warlock of Firetop Mountain
 * The Warlord
 * Wiz-War

It is a big job, so anyone that wants to beat me to it on any of these is more than welcome! Each game gets 2-3 pages of commentary, so there is plenty to work with but I am trying to at least get a minimal effort on each one. 65.126.152.254 (talk) 21:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Be careful with those additions when I look at the book on the catalogs it lists this book as a collection of essays and even by your own words, "commentary" these may not be considered reliable sources. A review of a product does very little to establish notability and essays even less so. Adding them to the articles does no harm, I am simply stating it does not necessarily establish notability. - McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 22:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm done, whether or not you approve. I don't know what being an essay or commentary has to do with my additions not being considered reliable sources, or why you think a review or essay has very little to do with establishing notability, but if you have a problem with anything I have added I don't know what to tell you. 65.126.152.254 (talk) 00:23, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Merger Proposal
I have begun a merge proposal Here I Stand (boardgame) into GMT Games. Any and all feedback would be appreciated. I would also like to know if there is currently any work done on a notability requirement for table top games, as looking at many of GMT Games games look to not satisfy WP:GNG.- McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 22:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

American mahjong listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for American mahjong to be moved to American Mah Jongg. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 23:17, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Backgammon
Hi, I recently created the article Backgammon match strategy which is now being threatened with deletion. Any help improving it would be appreciated. MaxBrowne (talk) 13:12, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

"Eurogame"
The usage and primary topic of is under discussion, see talk:German-style board game -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:28, 20 July 2015 (UTC)