Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Brazil/Archive 2

Norman Borlaug
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List of rivers of Rio de Janeiro
List of rivers of Rio de Janeiro is ready to be filled in - I'm going to go ahead and do just that with AWB. Shouldn't take long. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:28, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Brasília and Brazilian Federal District
What's the difference between the two? Are they the same? I cannot tell by reading the two articles, although there are a lot of repetition between them. If they are the same (like Washington D.C. and District of Columbia), perhaps they should be merged? Chanheigeorge (talk) 04:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

It´s almost like that, but Distrito Federal has federal representation in the Congress(Both at the Senate and the Camara). And Brasilia is the administrative capital per si, while Distrito Federal compasses both that city and most of the suburbs. André

GA reassessment of Jean Charles de Menezes
The above article has this project's banner on its talk page. I have conducted a reassessment as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found a large number of concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Jean Charles de Menezes/GA1. I have de-listed the article. This decision may be challenged at WP:GAR or the article may be improved and re-niminated at WP:GAN. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Question about Brazilian names
I noticed that many Brazilians on Wikipedia are referred to only by their first name. (See Brazil national football team for an example.) I was just wondering why that is, and since it seems to be consensus, maybe you should add it to WP:NC. Icestryke (talk) 04:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

That´s a cultural issue in Brazil. People are mostly referred by their first name or by some nickname. André

Article Nominated for Deletion
Prapsnot (talk) 12:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Pageview stats
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A-Class review for Brazilian cruiser Bahia now open
The A-Class review for Brazilian cruiser Bahia is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! — Ed   (Talk  •  Contribs)  19:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Esnupi's new articles
Hello, could someone please offer guidance to, preferably someone who speaks Portuguese? Thanks, Melchoir (talk) 01:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Is this is the TAM Airlines headquarters
I saw this on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregoripavan/3466156315/

Is this the headquarters of TAM Airlines? WhisperToMe (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It is the HQ, and it is now on Wikipedia. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposal of a rewritten article about the Brazilian "vestibular"
Original version

Rewritten version Editordeartigos (talk) 17:53, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The new version seems fine but it's unsourced. Maybe we should just improve the original one with some new information. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 18:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * That's the problem. According to wikipedia's policy the rewritten article falls under "original research" policy Editordeartigos (talk) 19:40, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

WT:Record charts
We are having a discussion about the legitimacy of www.billboard.br.com at WT:Record charts. Input from Brazilians is welcome.&mdash;Kww(talk) 17:29, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Featured article candidacy for Brazilian cruiser Bahia now open
The featured article candidacy for Brazilian cruiser Bahia is now open. Comments from reviewers are needed to help determine whether the article meets the criteria for featured articles; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! — Ed   (talk  •  contribs)  19:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Doughnut Days 2009
Is sonho the Portugese word for Doughnut or is it a particular type of doughnut? Should it be redirected? Get its own article? ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Wrong Rematch Event
"rematch from UFC 104 May 1st, in Montreal, Quebec, Canada at a unannounced event"

104 was obviously the original championship fight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.239.159 (talk) 18:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Proposed new article: "Race in Brazil"
Not such an appealing subject, to be sure. But please see this proposal on the talk page of the (confused) article "Ethnic groups in Brazil". -- Hoary (talk) 01:19, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

DJ Fratoni
This article on a subject related to Brazil is being discussed for deletion at Articles for deletion/DJ Fratoni. Voceditenore (talk) 08:50, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

BC New
Is this template, BC New, of any use to the project? It is currently orphaned. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 20:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Cacilda Borges Barbosa
Cacilda Borges Barbosa is currently up for deletion, based on lack of references and evidence of notability. Is anyone able to improve this article and add references, perhaps by translating the Portuguese WP article? --Deskford (talk) 00:24, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Categories for Discussion topic that may be of interest
Over here, CfD is getting into the Brasil vs. Brazil discussion. Any input is welcomed! Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:28, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Cleanup list at WikiProject Brazil/Cleanup listing
FYI - A massive discussion is taking place at a Request for comment (RfC) Requests for comment/Biographies of living people. About 50k of articles are currently unreferenced and therefore in danger of deletion, some of those are on Brazilian subjects, e.g. Mario Schmidt (historian and writer) was speedy deleted for being unreferenced and Márcio Thomaz Bastos, your Minister of Justice was double endorsed for deletion. I will add the proper template on the main page to have a bot generate the cleanup list after some days (hopefully). The cleanup link in the title above will then point to a list of unreferenced articles with the WikiProject Brazil template on its talk page. Please revise articles on the list, when possible,

Thank you. Power.corrupts (talk) 12:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) review them for contentious unsourced information pr WP:BLP concerns
 * 2) add references (you may e.g. lift references from the Brazilian page, if that page exists)
 * 3) remove the  template from the article.

Photo request: Gol headquarters
If anyone is in Sao Paulo, would anyone mind photographing the Gol Transportes Aereos headquarters? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 20:08, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Gracie Family template needs working on
I have created a gracie family template anyone wanting to adjust it be my guest.

Dwanyewest (talk) 06:34, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles bot
Okip  01:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Billboard Brasil
There's a discussion going on at WT:Record charts that could use input from Brazilian editors. In short, www.billboard.br.com has stopped publishing charts, and we would like to know if the magazine itself is still being published.&mdash;Kww(talk) 02:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Tijuca Forest X Cantareira
The largest urban florest in the world is not the Tijuca_Forest as written on the article. The actual largest is Parque Estadual da Cantareira (in Portuguese Brazillian). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Racabu (talk • contribs) 18:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Brazil-specific Disambiguation page: proposed move
At Talk:Luiz Henrique, i just proposed a move of the (supposed) Dab Luiz Henrique (which consists entirely of BR footballers with names like Luiz Henrique Rosa and Luiz Henrique Koprowski, and doesn't appear to qualify as a Dab page). I based my reasoning on my reading of Portuguese name, which i understand to apply fully to Brazil (beyond the nuances provided by the AFAI-can-see inapplicable succeeding sections). I'm an experienced Dab-cleaner, but as to Brazilian culture, i'm pleased just to come as close as i do to pronouncing "Pixote" correctly -- and to have suspected that some form of "double surnames" might come into play. (I've been called out for mispronouncing "Manhã de Carnaval"!) What the list have in common seems to be the given name "Luiz" and the maternal surname "Henrique", which doesn't appear to justify a Dab page, but the content could give a start to a given name page Luiz (and/or, it now occurs to me, a surname page Henrique (surname)). Specialist knowledge of Brazil is likely to improve the discussion at the section i linked above; please give a thot to participating. Thanks! --Jerzy•t 08:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Please don't do that. Your take on the name "Luiz Henrique" (or "Luís Henrique") is wrong. With all probability, both Luiz (Luís) and Henrique are given names. While a maternal surname Henrique is not completely impossible, it is a rare surname; on the contrary, "Luiz Henrique" or "Luís Henrique" are quite common given names. Ninguém (talk) 11:28, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Work needed
Kay, people, the history articles on here are terrible and those that are available are either badly written, non-formatted or hilariously wrong/biased. A number of major historical events lack good information, pages on Presidents and such are mostly two-liners. Even French Wikipedia has more stuff than us. I've worked a bit on fixing the political articles and some history articles on my knowledge, but I both lack the references needed and the time to undertake such a tedious task alone. I say it's time we all dive in and fix it up. As it stands now, the articles are terrible. They really need a group effort. --Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 21:28, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, let's organize this group effort then...you could start by pointing out articles in urgent need of attention, for example. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 21:45, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Could you give us a few examples? At least the ones that are the most important to deal with as fast as possible? --Lecen (talk) 00:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * The Revolution of 1930 is the most obvious, as it's two lines long and it's a defining pivotal point; Constitutionalist Revolution isn't great either; Getúlio Vargas's page is both incomplete, poorly organized and biased; there are NO articles on the Integralist rising or the Communist-ALN revolution; nothing on the 1923 revolution in RS; Eurico Gaspar Dutra's article is tiny; and articles on political parties are short and misleading.--Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 20:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * So, you want a focus on the Vargas's dictatorship era? You said that his aticle is biased, but you mean that it is favoring him or criticizing him? --Lecen (talk) 20:59, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * At the outset, yes, but the military era pages are also too short. But Vargas' era, from 1930 to at least 1954 are in woeful need of help. His article seems to be slightly biased against him, and ought to be written in the neutral way expected from a biographical article.--Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 01:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Then I am not the right person to help you out. Vargas tortured 20,000 people, murdered hundreds and senti thousands to intermnent camps. I can't see no godd in someone like him. I am already focusing on the Imperial era. Perhaps I will move later to the present era. But I wish you good luck. I don't know anyone around who likes Brazilian history. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 02:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Glorious indeed. I get to do it all alone. Glorious. --Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 12:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Maybe I can give you some help. I am mainly involved in other messy subject - Brazilian demography - where I am having to deal with some tons of sources that don't say what they are reported to say; but I am interested in Brazilian history. I am also not exactly a fan of Vargas, but I think I can be fairly objective about him. He did torture and kill people. He also lead the country during a difficult period - WWII included -, and was able to take some advantage of the struggle among the great powers to lever Brazilian development. Ninguém (talk) 02:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the main problem is the lack of sources. I will try to provide some to each president article, but understand that this will take much time. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 15:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Historiographical discussion at Platine War
People with knowledge of History may feel interested with the ongoing discussion at Platine War article. Salut, --IANVS (talk) 17:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons
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Brazil and weapons of mass destruction
I would like to ask editors to judge on the small controversy recently developed at this article's Talk Page. Guinsberg (talk) 19:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Deletion Request in Commons
There is a deletion request at Commons that involves all the images taken from Presidência Da República. It's located at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Photographs by Secretary of Press Palácio do Planalto. If you are aware of information that may help to clarify the status of the copyright on those images (either supporting or opposing deletion) you are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MBelgrano (talk) 17:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Almirante Tamandaré
I've created a disambiguation page, Almirante Tamandare, to help disambiguate the ship article Almirante Tamandare (1890). However, I suspect that this ship should really be called Almirante Tamandaré, after the town of Almirante Tamandaré. Can someone please check this, and adjust the disambiguation and town pages if necessary? -- The Anome (talk) 07:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Is this project still alive?
The question is very simple: is this project still alive? --Lecen (talk) 14:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Officially, it is semi-active. I keep it on my watchlist to see what people say here, but most of the new posts are requests for help or opinion. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 21:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I need more than that. I've a few articles related to Brazilian history which I nominated for featured (Honório Carneiro Leão, Marquis of Paraná) and good (Pedro II of Brazil and José Paranhos, Viscount of Rio Branco) categories. However, it would make everything easier if there were editors who could review them and vote in favor or against them. I am about to end the one about Pedro Álvares Cabral and a little help with that would be appreciated. Abraços, --Lecen (talk) 22:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Mário de Andrade FAR
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Brazil articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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Flag of Brazil
There's a peer review under way for Flag of Brazil. If anyone would like to leave an input, that would be very helpful! Limongi (talk) 15:08, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Templates in Category:Brazil municipality templates
There seem to be two formats of templates in this category:
 * Some are named "Municipalities of Foo" (where "Foo" is one of the states). Quite a few of these are incomplete, with no actual municipality names in them. Most of those that have names (all but ) have the names grouped. The grouping appears to be somewhat different in some of these.
 * Some are named "XXXMunicipalities" (where "XXX" is the name or abbreviation of one of the states). Most of these (all but ) list the municipalities without any grouping.

In two cases, this results in the following duplication of templates:
 * and
 * and

Personally, I prefer the templates with the names grouped and named "Municipalities of Foo", but I wanted to bring this to your attention because I didn't know if the Project members have a preference. I was thinking of filling in the templates that have no names, but wanted to check with you first. I would like to propose the following:
 * Pick a naming convention for the templates (either "XXXMunicipalities" or "Municipalities of Foo"), then merge the duplicate templates and rename any that need it.
 * Pick a format (either group the names or not) and standardize the formats. If grouping, decide what level of grouping is wanted.

I would be glad to help with any of this if I can. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In both cases, "Municipalities of Foo" is better organized, though "Municipalities of Espírito Santo" is incomplete. Normally, "Municipalities of Foo" templates are better, but some states have no template at all, and some states such as São Paulo have unique templates. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 18:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

small correction about Igreja Matriz
Just want to make a small correction on Vila Bela da Santissima.  Igreja Matriz is the name of the church, not a type of church. Igreja = Portuguese for church, and Matriz = is the name, and should therefore be written with capital letter.

"Today due the to fact that most inhabitants descend from former African slaves the town creates the impression of a town in the African jungle rather than in one the Amazon jungle" is in my opinion somewhat exaggerated. It's not a town of black people, they are distinctly Brazilian but with a higher average of African [physical] features than elsewhere.

That's it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.88.194.151 (talk) 00:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Help with some translation
The Bernardo Vieira de Melo page has recently been created on the English Wikipedia, having been translated (using a machine translation, I'm fairly sure) from the Portuguese page. I have managed to clean up most of the faults of the machine translation, but I am unable to clarify one apparent idiomatic problem. The original Portuguese text contains the sentence:
 * Em 10 de Novembro de 1710 deu o 1º Grito de República do Brasil, sendo preso em Recife em 1712 e embarcado para Lisboa com seu filho.

which the machine translation renders as
 * On November 10, 1710 gave a cry of the Republic of Brazil, being arrested in Recife in 1712 and shipped to Lisbon with his son.

Clearly, this is not a valid translation. Can anyone here provide a better one? I have tried to contact the article's original author on this topic, to no avail. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


 * "On 10 November 1710 he 'gave the first cry for a Republic in Brazil' and was consequentely arrested along with his son in Recife and from there sent to Lisbon, Portugal." Is that better? Regards, --Lecen (talk) 19:03, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


 * In other words, he was the first person to call for the creation of a Republic of Brazil. I think that works better.  Thanks!  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing
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Brazil-Portugal relations
the page needs to be expanded, sourced and organised. Ive done stuff off the top of my head but its awfully late now, and i hope to be in bed soon.Lihaas (talk) 19:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Juliana de Aquino
Juliana de Aquino on EN currently redirects to AF 447, while pt:Juliana de Aquino is its own article

Is anyone interested in using Portuguese sources to build a true English article? WhisperToMe (talk) 23:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Systematic removal of HDI data for Brazil
Someone apparently spent considerable effort to add data from List of Brazilian states by Human Development Index to the infoboxes for each state. They seemed to me be relevant; I'm not familiar with HDI. User:Hentzer has removed most, if not all, of the HDI data from the state infoboxes without any comment or explanation. Have I missed a consensus to remove HDI? Thanks, I'm concerned when I see systematic deletions. SBaker43 (talk) 05:23, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * To be honest, we call it "vandalism" to remove content without explanations here in Wikipedia. Unless he provides a decent reason for removing that content, I will add it back. Another user already questioned him about such removals. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 22:30, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Translation/creation request: Articles on forts needed
There are six forts in Brazil named "Forte de São João", if anyone would like to use Portuguese Wikipedia to create some English Wikipedia articles on them. Particularly desired is the article on Fortaleza de São João (Rio de Janeiro), in Rio de Janeiro. Wareh (talk) 20:44, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies is a Featured article nominee
The article about Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies, a 19th century Italian princess and wife of Pedro II, the second Brazilian emperor is now a Featured article nominee. Comments, criticisms, supports or opposes are welcome. See: Featured article candidates/Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies/archive1. --Lecen (talk) 16:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Tapirapé Wikipedia Page
The page on the Tapirapé should be looked at. It has only two book resource and is essentially just a summary of one of these books. The beginning part of the page talks about the Tapirapé people being a culture still existing today, but the rest of the article only discusses the Tapirapé in the past tense, stopping on their history at the 1950s, the beginning of major colonial contact. Doesn't that seem a bit conflicting? The article overall does not have a neutral voice, but rather goes into great visual descriptions of the Tapirapé people's supposedly "old" lifestyle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivafranzia (talk • contribs) 02:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Empire of Brazil FAC is now open!
Empire of Brazil is now a Featured Article candidate. Your opinion (either as support or oppose) is welcome. Here is the page: Featured article candidates/Empire of Brazil/archive1. Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 14:19, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Is this Wikiproject dead?
Is this Wikiproject dead? --Lecen (talk) 15:23, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's officially semi-active, but I'd say nothing much happens here except for some discussions here. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 15:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * To increase the activity, I will post a WikiProject invitation link to Portal:Brazil WhisperToMe (talk) 20:58, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Done :) WhisperToMe (talk) 21:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Important move request on Portuguese monarchs. Share your thoughts.
I have requested the move of article John VI of Portugal to João VI of Portugal in here: Talk:John VI of Portugal. Since he had a very important role in Brazilian history, I thought it would be necessary to warn this WikiProject. Share your thoughts there, it's important. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 03:40, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Mura people from pt.Mura... Request for proofreading
I've just translated this very small article (only 2 paragraphs). My Portuguese is only basic/med. I have no idea who best to ask to proof-read. There is the one red word 'inquiry' which I know I'm absolutely wrongly translating. Help needed. Thank you.--Tallard (talk) 10:19, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Just made an attempt at a copyedit. Take a look and see what do you think about it. Cheers! Ninguém (talk) 16:34, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I am curious, why does this project talk page have no edit links for sections? creating edit on entire talk page is not normal...
 * Ok am doing small English copy-edit. Some points:
 * "just war" for whom? Really? it is not they who asked inquiry from government?? seems odd
 * "inquiry" (profligate of autos??)... I am sure this is wrong, you have no suggestion?
 * "Tapuios" why did you remove? it is in citation.
 * "loss of freedom" is not the way this is said in English, sovereignty should be the word here, unless you have a special justification
 * "regional society" does not exist in English, unless in Portuguese is referring to a specific organisation, nearby settlements is correct otherwise.
 * Thanks again for your help :)--Tallard (talk) 20:04, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

The colonists had asked for permission from the Portuguese Crown to respond to Muras' resistance with a "just war", which, in this context, means a license for the colonists to wage an all-out war and exterminate or (more likely) enslave the Mura.

"Devassa" is a kind of inquiry, I suppose. A legal procedure against activities seen as illegal at the time. They would lack the modern requisites of presumption of inocence, contradictory, etc., though. "Autos da devassa" were the documents relating to the devassa - accusation, evidences, alegations, confessions, etc. It does not have a precise equivalent in modern Portuguese language, nor in modern Portuguese or Brazilian law.

"Tapuias" is a term that essentially means "non-Tupi Amerindians". In this context, it is confusing, since the Mura themselves, who were not Tupian, would be "tapuias".
 * OK, I see the challenge, but since it's in the middle of the quote, it needs to be reinserted. Brackets could be used to help reader... eg [other] Tapuias. Maybe you find a good way to reinsert it? thanks :)

I don't think the Muras had "sovereignity" that they could loss; they certainly had not a State. The original says "liberdade", which translates into English as "freedom" or "liberty", not as "sovereignity" - which would be "soberania" in Portuguese.
 * sovereignty in English does not imply any legal documentation or official statehood, it simply refers to running your own life (or group). The present wording in English is too limiting in its scope. Sovereignty is this exact context is always used in aboriginal politics to mean exactly this, so I'm going to replace it in the text.

"Nearby settlements" would be wrong in this context, as nearby settlements quite probably would have joined the Cabanos as well. What the text means is the central colonial authorities in Belém, and the loyalists around it. "Regional" here, at least in Portuguese, is opposed to "local".
 * 'regional society' has an entirely different meaning than what you are thinking, it refers to a company or non-profit organisation. 'settlements' effectively does imply colonial authorities as you say, it does not imply other Cabanos. Settlement in this English context is standard terminology to express a significant colonial locality (as opposed to local aboriginals). Does 'sociedade regional' mean Portuguese capital far away or local Portuguese towns? If we're 'local colonialists' vs the 'colonialist authorities many km away', then something like 'regional political authorities' would be more appropriate. This needs more clarification, thanks :)

And, of course, you are welcome! Ninguém (talk) 15:22, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind I inserted my comments among your responses, since it looks like only us two talking :)--Tallard (talk) 20:23, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Of course not; indeed it makes it easier to understand the dialogue.

Tapuias: I propose something like "the Muras and tapuias (a name that doesn't designate an actual tribal identity, but merely stands for non-Tupian Amerindians)". I fear that the use of that term in the original is a sign of poor research, and consequently of poor quality of the source; a Historian of colonial and/or Imperial Brazil should know that the word is completely imprecise. Perhaps this is a quotation from a primary source, that the editor in pt-Wikipedia failed to recognise as such?

Sovereignity: OK; it sounds really strange to me, but that's probably because Portuguese is my first language.

Nearby settlements: this expression conveys to me the impression of small villages close to the Muras. But those would be probably on the side of the Cabanos, too - the Cabanagem was a wide uprising among the lower classes of Pará, not an ethnic revolt against the Portuguese and White Brazilians, and it was particularly strong in the hinterland. The Muras and other Indian tribes played a secondary role in it. What the original text means is quite certainly the authorities in Belém; the author would be thinking of "region" here as meaning the whole of Pará. I think "regional political authorities" may do the trick, though of course the original text would probably be minding not only the authorities, but the establishment around it, including merchants, contractors, landowners, and other private people whose interests were best served by the established order instead of the rebellion. Ninguém (talk) 16:14, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Octavio_Augusto_Ceva_Antunes
Does anyone know what journals Octavio_Augusto_Ceva_Antunes published his works in? If we know, then it may be enough to save the article. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:57, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Article Feedback Request
I am a student working with the Wikipedia Ambassador Program. My topic is Landfill Gas Clean Development Mechanism Projects in Brazil. Thanks for your feedback and suggestions. Deefalvo (talk) 16:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Education policy in Brazil


Please help with this article.

It has been developed by students liaising with Wikipedia as part of an important liaison project with universities - WikiProject United States Public Policy - which, if successful, will expand to bring many more quality editors to Wikipedia.

The course ends in a few weeks.

Please make comments, suggestions, etc. on Talk:Education policy in Brazil. Many thanks,  Chzz  ► 03:47, 16 April 2011 (UTC) (Online Ambassador for this specific course)

Advice about translating the full name of Salvador, Bahia
At Reference desk/Language, there has been discussion about the most accurate English meaning of São Salvador da Bahia de Todos os Santos because the current translation ("Saint Savior of All Saints' Bay") seems inadequate. However, most of the participants in this discussion (including me) are not native Lusophones or experts in the Portuguese language, so perhaps someone here (maybe a native of Salvador, Bahia!) could offer some useful information or advice at WP:RD/L. Muito Obrigado. —— Shakescene (talk) 04:21, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It was actually the previous translation ("San Savior of All Saints' Bay") that seemed inadequate, because "San" is Spanish, not English, and it doesn't make sense to translate one word into Spanish and the rest into English. [ I recently edited it] to "Saint Savior of All Saints' Bay", because Saint Savior is an expression occasionally used in place names in English. Another option is "Holy Savior of All Saints' Bay", though that seems to reflect "Salvador Santo da Bahia..." rather than "São Salvador da Bahia...". "Holy Savior" is what it said until [ an anon changed it] to the macaronic "San Savior" a few weeks ago. —Angr (talk) 06:09, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Should be Holy Saviour: it refers to Jesus Christ, not to a saint called "Saviour". And probably "Bay of All Saints" wold be better than "All Saints' Bay". But what is the point of "translating" a propr name? Ninguém (talk) 19:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Brazilian Portuguese help
Hi! What would be the Brazilian Portuguese words for "Recovered" and "Unrecovered" as in the recovery or lack of recovery of a human corpse? What is "Storage"? And is "Cozinha" used for an aircraft galley? It's for a translation of an Air France 447 seat map WhisperToMe (talk) 15:43, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The litteral translation for "recovered" would be "recuperado". "Achado", "encontrado", "reencontrado" are also options; without knowing the immediate context, it difficult to chose. "Unrecovered" would be "não recuperado", or "perdido", or "desaparecido". If talking about a missing human corpse, the usual words would be "encontrado" vs "desaparecido". "Storage" as in "warehouse" is "armazém"; "storage" as in "container" would be "container" in Brazilian Portuguese (I suspect that it is unacceptable in European Portuguese, which might have a different word instead of this Anglicism). "Storage" as in "the act of storing" would be "armazenamento". And yes, cozinha would be any kitchen, including an aircraft or ship galley. Ninguém (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Mfd notice of WikiProject Mercosur
I have nominated WikiProject Mercosur for deletion at WP:MFD. Please comment here for any concerns. Thanks. JJ98 (Talk)  01:11, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Photo request - Rio de Janeiro
Are there any editors in the Rio de Janeiro area that could take some photographs for an article please?

The RMS Magdalena (1948) was wrecked on the Tijucas Rocks, between the Carragas and Palmas Islands, approx 15 miles south of Rio. Some small parts of the ship, such as her bell and some portholes are now at the Jurujuba Yacht Club, Niterói. Photographs of these would be appreciated for use in the article. Mjroots (talk) 04:58, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

1995 Brazilian Grand Prix GAN
The 1995 Brazilian Grand Prix is being reviewed and has been placed on hold for an initial seven days to allow time for the lead to be developed and for more detail to be added regarding fuel checking - see: Talk:1995 Brazilian Grand Prix/GA1.  SilkTork  *Tea time 22:25, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

A task force for Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo
I know this is WikiProject Brazil, but can there be a Rio de Janeiro Task Force and a São Paulo Task Force? I thought about a Rio de Janeiro task force since that city is hosting the 2016 Summer Olympics and a Sao Paulo task force because it is the largest city in Brazil. The articles about buildings and places in those cities don't have as much extensive coverage as their counterparts on the Portuguese Wikipedia, so such articles need expansion soon. Jim856796 (talk) 07:36, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * See WikiProject Council/Guide/Task forces for instructions. However, it is advised that only big projects (such as 100 users or more) should begin creating task forces. A task force for a project of four or five users may be doomed to failure. It may be better to keep everything Brazilian-related just at this project.
 * There may be a better alternative: instead of task forces, you may organize the work in subpages for specific topic, such as listing some important pages related to Rio de Janeiro (or other topics) needing creation, references, expansion, NPOV check, copyedit, etc. Such pages may be useful even for a single user, and may be turned into task forces if they show their own autonomy. Cambalachero (talk) 14:21, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I was planning to create articles for every São Paulo district (besides expanding the already existing ones), but when I think of the amount of work it will take, it kind of discourages me. Any effort to gather some editors to expand such pages would be welcomed by me. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 18:04, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * True, since the Brazil WikiProject has been semi-active, all the subpages keep saying, "Welcome to the WikiProject Brazil". Well, I like to possibly add Category:WikiProject Brazil articles to populate any articles into the banner. I like to possibly add intro to all subpages myself. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions)  04:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil is now a featured article nominee
Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil is now a featured article nominee. Anyone willing to review the article and give his/her support is welcome. --Lecen (talk) 12:20, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

The Empire of Brazil task force has been created. Join the team!
The Empire of Brazil task force has been created. It has as goal the improvement of all articles related to Brazilian (and Uruguayan until 1828) history between 1822 and 1889 during the Empire of Brazil era. Join the team, you're welcome! --Lecen (talk) 19:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Santos FC seasons
I have FINALLY finished the Santos FC season list. It took a lot of work but I think it is good enough to be a FL. I hope this list serves as a basis for other editors to do a season-wide list on their favorite clubs like Flu, Fla, Sao Paulo, etc. (since I have done most of the work lol all you have to do is change a few words, nvm if your team is from the Sao Paulo state).

I just want some imput to see what needs to be done before I turn it in to the FL people for them to judge. Looking at other club's season lists (looking at Barcelona's hurts my eyes by seeing how ugly and disorganized it is...and note! Apart from mine, that is the best one I have found) and seeing how they still became FL, I don't think it will be a problem making my list to FL status. I just want pointers.

BTW I have upgraded Santos' club template. It looks like this:

I think it is a great basis for other clubs to base it off from. Let me know what everyone thinks. Strawberry on Vanilla (talk) 19:58, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Saci
I am just wondering why the word "Saci" appears misspelled several times with a "ç" on the article about the Brazilian folkloric figure, if in Portuguese the character "ç" is never followed by the vowels "e" or "i" and only can be followed by either an "a" or an "o". There's no sillabe "çi" or "çe" in the portuguese language, only "ci" and 'ce'. The correct pronunciation of this word is "saci" and not (ever, never, not in time or space) "saçi". Electrobird (talk) 04:57, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

What is "Colon" in "Colon road"?
In a featured list candidacy I was asked to wikilink "Colon" in "Colon road" (Estrada do Colon). I am not sure which Colon is meant here, so I hope to get some input from somebody more familiar with the region. "Colon road" appears in connection with Iguaçu National Park and was one of the reasons for listing the park as World Heritage in Danger. bamse (talk) 08:51, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I edited it to the actual name "Estrada do Colono"/"Settler's Road", as you can see in this news article: http://ecoviagem.uol.com.br/noticias/ambiente/wwf-brasil-repudiou-a-abertura-da-estrada-do-colono-pr-e-pediu-providencias-3331.asp it's the correct name for the road. Piva0 (talk) 02:39, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Article about Prince Afonso, son of Emperor Pedro II is now a FA nominee. Share your thoughts.
Hello to everyone. Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil has been nominated to Featured Article category. It's a very small article and quite easy to read it. Anyone who has the interest on reviewing it and sahring your thoughts about it is welcome. Here is the link: Featured article candidates/Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil/archive2. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Requested moves on footballers article
There are several requested page moves on Brazilian footballers' articles that could use some opinion and comments: Any comments, both support and oppose, are highly appreciated. Cheers. — MT (talk) 04:21, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sandro Ranieri → Sandro Raniere (Discuss)
 * Nilmar Honorato da Silva → Nilmar (Discuss)
 * Thiago Emiliano da Silva → Thiago Silva (footballer) (Discuss)
 * Frederico Chaves Guedes → Fred (footballer) (Discuss)
 * Thiago Alcântara → Thiago Alcántara (Discuss)

Project in Spanish
WikiProject Brazil has been created is Spanish Wikipedia: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Brasil

I hope that people add it!

--EdgarFabiano (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

RfC: Italicization of Portuguese terms in Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil
Wikipedia's Manual of Style specifies that italics be used to mark "phrases in other languages and for isolated foreign words that are not common in everyday English" and words "that do not yet have everyday use in non-specialised English." Comments welcome at Talk:Afonso, Prince Imperial of Brazil. Lecen (talk) 13:15, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Monarchy restoration?
The article Monarchies in the Americas says that there was a failed attempt in 1993 to restore the Brazilian Monarchy. But that info has no wikilinks, articles such as 1988 Constituent Assembly or History of the Constitution of Brazil provide no further information, and the pretenders Dom Luiz de Orleans e Bragança and Dom João Henrique have no articles (at least, under such names). Is there an article with more info about this? Cambalachero (talk) 19:55, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * In 1992, Brazil's Congress passed an amendment to the Constitution which determined the holding of a referendum for voters to decide if the country should have a republican or a monarchical regime ruled by a presidential or a parliamentary system. The referendum was held in 1993 and the majority of voters favored the republican regime and the presidential system. See Brazilian constitutional referendum, 1993. Limongi (talk) 01:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Jacupiranga State Park
I really need a photo, please!! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:55, 22 November 2011 (UTC) ✅ Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:24, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

A Brazilian article in Today's Featured Article?
I've recently nominated Princess Maria Amélia of Brazil on Today's featured article/requests to be shown on the next 1 December. If there is someone who believes that the article should appear, post your comment. If not, then do it too. --Lecen (talk) 18:44, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Duke of Caxias is now a Featured Article candidate
Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias is now a Featured Article candidate. If you're interested, please review the article and share your thoughts on its nomination page. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 00:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Superior Court of Justice
The Superior Court of Justice (Brazil) article hasn't been rated yet. I think it has some importance due to the size of the Brazilian democracy compared to other countries in terms of number of electors. Jgsodre (talk) 14 December 2011 —Preceding undated comment added 02:07, 14 December 2011 (UTC).

Featured article candidacy for South American dreadnought race now open
The featured article candidacy for South American dreadnought race is now open. Comments from reviewers are needed to help determine whether the article meets the criteria for featured articles; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 09:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Interlagos
I wonder is Interlagos's Autódromo José Carlos Pace situated in the Interlagos neighbourhood, as the Interlagos article claims. To my understand, the Portuguese Wikipedia's article says the neighbourhood in in the district of Socorro and the circuit is in the district of Cidade Dutra. Can anyone confirm this, as I had to rely on Google Translate to read the Portuguese article. I have already asked about the circuits location at WikiProject Formula One's talk page but no one answered.

I also had another question about the circuit there, so if somebody can help with it, please answer to that question at F1 project's page. --August90 (talk) 09:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * While the Portuguese language Autódromo José Carlos Pace's article says it is located in the neighbourhood of Interlagos, in Socorro district, the Cidade Dutra's artile says the circuit is actually located there. Google Maps places "Cidade Dutra" right on the circuit when you zoom the map to a certain scale. Take a look at this map (Socoro district is highlighted in blue) and compare it with Google Maps (for some reference: the line separating Socorro to the districts to the northeast in the map is the river that appears at Google Maps). I find it reasonable to say the circuit is at Cidade Dutra, though I'm not 100% sure. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 00:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Victor for your comment. Unless some contrary opinions arise, I'll edit the article in a few days. --August90 (talk) 15:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

TV Alterosa
TV Alterosa is pretty much unintelligible, and has a list of stuff under the heading "signal" that has no context. Can somebody in your project please improve this article?  PK T (alk)  15:21, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Brazil will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Brazil's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Lula recovers from cancer
I have recently nominated the article Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva to appear on the main page at the "In The News" section, because of Lula's recovery from cancer. The discussion takes place at In the news/Candidates. Have in mind the criteria detailed at In the news before supporting or rejecting the nomination.

In any case, a salute to all Brazilians from Argentina, and I hope you enjoy these news. Your national leaders are an example that all South American countries should admire and follow.Cambalachero (talk) 15:04, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Merge comment needed - Platine War
Should Platine War merge to Battle of Caseros? Please comment at Talk:Platine War. Thanks, D O N D E groovily   Talk to me  02:54, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested article (Francisco de Oliveira)
Could somebody translate pt:Francisco de Oliveira to English Wikipedia? (interview with English subs as a useful elink) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 16:29, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Benedita da Silva article majorly needs help
The Benedita da Silva article is in need of help! It reads like a highschool paper and has no citations. --Gyroid (talk) 19:59, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Help with womens football
I have created Women's football in Brasil so any help would be appreciated.Dwanyewest (talk) 18:19, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The correct name for this article should be Women's football in Brazil, which already exists as a redirect. I think we should redirect Women's football in Brasil to Women's football in Brazil and add the content of the redirected article to the target page. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 20:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Women's football in Brazil was the original article, before being turned into a redirect. You should had reverted that change rather than simply copy the text somewhere else. I have fixed it. Cambalachero (talk) 12:45, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Peer review for Brazilian military leader of the Paraguayan War has been opened
A peer review has been opened for Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre. One of the greatest Brazilian military officers, he fought in several conflicts: Independence of Brazil (1822-24), Cisplatine War (1825-28), Platine War (1851-52) and Paraguayan War (1864-70). Share your thoughts on this link. Thanks! --Lecen (talk) 14:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

User assistance
Can someone whose able drop a word at User talk:Juniorpetjua? The user hasn't yet communicated in English, and I'm assuming they're Brazilian (apologies if I'm mistaken). Cheers, CMD (talk) 16:54, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Given his language and the articles he has contributed to, I guess we can assume he's Brazilian. What kind of advice would you like us to give to him? Just a welcome message or something concerning his edits at South America? Victão Lopes  I hear you... 17:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I was hoping some sort of short Portuguese welcome and note to use English would be useful, although a note on South America would be useful too. They have been pointed towards WP:3RR by another editor, but that won't do much if they aren't fluent in English. I'd like for them to be able to express their point, in some way, although it may be worth asking them to focus on Portuguese wikipedia (or perhaps another language one if they speak another language) if their English is not that developed. CMD (talk) 18:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've just created a section at his talk page. Victão Lopes  I hear you... 22:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Appreciated, CMD (talk) 03:41, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Portuguese is the main language. Just like every country, they have different priorities in what languages to learn since its a country with several languages — Preceding unsigned comment added by WitsBlomstein (talk • contribs) 10:03, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Sao Paolo churches
I've started Category:Churches in São Paulo (city), help would be appreciated in expanding from Portuguese wiki and improving them.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:33, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Orfeu
Hi everybody, does anyone have the time and inclination to deal with Orfeu? I've no knowledge of the film and don't want to barge in and mess anything up. davidiad.: 18:09, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Election and new mayors
Well, as most of you surely know, Brazil will be electing mayors for every municipality in its territory in the next month. Excluding the cities that will reelect their mayors, I guess there will be thousands of articles which will require edits in January 2013, when all those new mayors take power. I am referring to the "|leader_name = " part of all infoboxes (in articles that have been added an infobox already) and, in some cases, to the "History" or "Politics" sections, in case they exist. Is there a way to program a bot so it could do the work for us, or should we assemble a task force of editors willing to update the information? 'Cause until recently I still came across articles on Brazilian cities with infoboxes containing mayors that ruled until 2008, suggesting nobody updated the information even years after the election. Victão Lopes I hear you... 21:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre is now a Featured Article candidate. Please, review it.
Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre is now a Featured Article candidate. A Brazilian officer with a long career in arms, he fought in the independence of Brazil, in the Platine War, in the Paraguayan War and in other conflicts. He was also a politician, a member of the Liberal party, and he fought for the abolition of slavery in Brazil. Please, review the article and share your thoughts on the page nomination, in here. --Lecen (talk) 11:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Help with a Featured Article candidate
I'd like to ask anyone who has any interest in military history to review Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre. So far Malleus Fatuorum and Dank have reviewed (and given their support) it. However, an extra pair of eyes would be really, really welcomed. The candidacy page is here. Thank you very much, --Lecen (talk) 15:58, 26 September 2012 (UTC)