Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bridges and Tunnels/Archive 4

Not tunnels again
I am well aware (as per previous post) that tunnels and bridges are distinct, but I wanted to ask a question at "Wikiproject tunnels", except that there doesn't seem to be one. I wonder if it would be a good idea for a combined bridges and tunnels project? Anyway, I will ask the question here...

The opening of the new Gotthard tunnel led to a spate of edits involving the Seikan tunnel. I would like to ask people who are know essentially nothing about Japanese how easy it is to understand the origin of the name from the sentence in the lead beginning "The name Seikan comes from...", following the obvious links as necessary. I would like to try to make this clearer, but if everyone says it's clear already, I won't bother. Impressions please. Imaginatorium (talk) 07:55, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

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Madison Street Bridge (Portland, Oregon)
Project members are invited to expand and improve Madison Street Bridge (Portland, Oregon), which is about two former bridges in Portland. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:03, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

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Invitation to Women in Architecture & Women in Archaeology editathons
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Category inclusion in Category:Truss bridges?
I've always seen Category:Truss bridges (in the absence of a Category:Truss bridges by type sub-category) as having an important (but not its only) role as a parent for the "trusses by type" categories: Category:Pratt truss bridges‎, etc.

An editor is now 3RR warring to remove Category:Allan truss bridges from this cat, on the grounds that the three examples listed on WP (WP is not WP:RS) are all in Australia, thus the category should only be a member of Category:Truss bridges in Australia. This breaks the use of categories for navigation by type of truss.

If there's a reasonable and strong geographical scope to these (which would be to ignore the wartime Allan trusses in Burma), then they could belong in the geographical at in addition. But we need to preserve "by type" navigation as a technical description of the bridges and should not remove it, as is being done.

Thoughts? Andy Dingley (talk) 00:59, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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Backwater Bridge in Morton County, North Dakota
Backwater Bridge has been mentioned several times in the media due to the Standing Rock protests. For example, see this headline or picture 7 here. Is it sufficiently notable to have its own article and is anyone able to find out more information like when it was built, by whom, etc. please? Please ping me when you reply. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:39, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Disambiguation
Are bridges disambiguated by city name or river name? I see Monroe Street Bridge (Chicago) was moved to Monroe Street Bridge (Chicago River), but I assumed bridges were disambiguated by city. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:16, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is a standard, but if I was creating a disambiguation for bridges named the same, I would use location (country, state, county, city, etc.). The reason is that a river name might require a second disambiguation. For instance, there are eight rivers named Little River just within South Carolina (see here). So you're potentially having to add the location anyways. Such as Big Bridge (Little River, Horry County, South Carolina). - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 22:11, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Medora Covered Bridge
An IP editor keeps removing the "See also" section that I added to the article. Granted, it is only the appropriate portal templates, but they should be there, right? I have reverted this user twice now and don't want to get into an edit war situation. Could someone please help? Thanks. Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 21:38, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Feedback welcome for article being nominated for GA status
I am nominating Blue Bridge (Reed College) for Good article status and welcome feedback from project members, before or during the nomination. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:40, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of New I-94 and Highway 10 Interregional Connection Bridge


The article New I-94 and Highway 10 Interregional Connection Bridge has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * The proposed project has been delayed basically indefinitely as the project really hasn't secured any funding and hasn't really gained traction in the last few years.

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Monnow Bridge
This article has recently passed GA, and I've now taken it to Peer Review. Depending on how that goes, I would then like to try it for FA. I'd very much appreciate any feedback from Project members, at either stage. Many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 07:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

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Strauss Trunnion Bascule Bridge?
I took a picture of this plaque in Chicago in 2015. Does anyone know if there is a Wikipedia article about this bridge, or if there should be one? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:12, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Take a look at Category:Bridges in Chicago. It's not the Wells Street Bridge is it? That's about the best known. Otherwise Franklin Street Bridge or Madison Street Bridge.
 * The "Strauss trunnion" is a form of bascule bridge, not a specific bridge. Joseph Strauss developed it, as an improvement on previous bascule bridges. A number were built around Chicago. To avoid a licensing fee, the Chicago city engineers then produced their own improvement upon this and claimed that it was no longer a "Strauss" design, thus didn't have to pay the licence fee. AIUI, there was a fairly notable court case over this.
 * So we ought to expand the content at bascule bridge, describe the Strauss design and the incidents in Chicago. That's the technical aspect. There's also a possibility that this (unidentified) bridge might justify an article because of its own individual history. That's a separate issue: is the bridge or its route noteworthy? Andy Dingley (talk) 17:34, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Bridges infobox
Quick note in the interests of promoting further discussion, a suggestion has been made at Template talk:Infobox bridge that one of the field in the bridge infox be altered. All opinions welcome. Avgas7 (talk) 04:14, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

nl:Ophaalbrug
Is there an English name for this type of construction? I feel sure that it can't be restricted just to the Netherlands and France.

A famous example - Langlois Bridge, painted by Van Gogh. Narky Blert (talk) 20:11, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * A modern example. Narky Blert (talk) 20:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Here's another - Magere Brug. English Wiki calls it a bascule bridge, but it very obviously isn't. The double beam and counterweight are characteristic. Unsurprisingly, Dutch Wiki calls it an ophaalbrug, which is not the same as nl:basculebrug. Narky Blert (talk) 20:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Verrazano-Narrows Bridge name
Someone suggested that I should post a note here drawing interested parties’ attention to edits at the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge page. This name should take a hyphen (-), not an en dash (–). In the context of bridge names, en dashes take the place of the word “to”: the Brooklyn–Battery Tunnel is the Brooklyn-to-Battery Tunnel. But the Verrazano is not a bridge connecting the Verrazano & the Narrows. Rather, it’s 2 alternative names for the same thing (the Verrazano Bridge and the Narrows Bridge) smushed together. This is exactly analogous to when Ms. Doe & Mr. Roe marry to become Mr. and Ms. Doe-Roe: they use a hyphen. In other words, the rule is not “bridges and tunnels use an en dash instead of a hyphen in their names”; you have to look deeper.

I’m a professional copyeditor with many years’ experience editing to both American and British standards. That makes me a bona fide en-dash weenie—probably the weeniest en-dash weenie of them all—but to use one in Verrazano–Narrows makes no sense. It is a contrived construction that flies in the face of convention. You can tie yourself up in pretzels arguing that it's not a bridge over the Verrazano Narrows (the Narrows themselves not being named for Verrazzano), but the terms "Verrazano" and "Narrows" are still not coordinate ones. Really, though, what's wrong with it is that it snags the eye.

I had made this point on the VNB Talk page and, not hearing any objections after a week, posted it at Moves Requested. The move to Verrazano-Narrows Bridge has been made, and I’m now in the process of going thru What Links Here and tidying up. But I wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of the reasoning behind the change so that nobody decides it must be a mistake and starts to undo it without discussion.

I’m also posting this at the NYC project. Let’s direct discussion to the VNB talk page to keep it all in one place, if that is agreeable. Gould363 (talk) 17:25, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City
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The longest pedestrian hanging bridge in the world
It is Europe Bridge (Zermatt). There is confusion over the name and location. Please help by commenting at Talk:Europe Bridge (Zermatt). Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:57, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Now moved to Charles Kuonen Bridge. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:05, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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Victoria Bridge, Bath
Victoria Bridge, Bath has had a 'disputed' tag on it for a couple of years regarding the definition of its construction type. There was some discussion on the talk page about this which is beyond my expertise, so would appreciate anyone from this project taking a look and suggesting a suitable resolution. From what I can gather it probably just needs to be worded more accurately. Derek Andrews (talk) 00:34, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Forth Road Bridge
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Lebanon Road Stone Arch Bridge
Hello. I've just created Lebanon Road Stone Arch Bridge, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Feel free to expand it. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 06:06, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I looked for J. A. Jowett's obituaries on Newspapers.com but couldn't find any. Looks like he was dead by 1901, but perhaps still alive in 1898... He apparently designed several bridges/reservoirs, and his wife died in Los Angeles in 1903.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:14, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Discussion of interest to this project
. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:09, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

List of crossings of the Rahway River
Just wanted to inform you that the new List of crossings of the Rahway River page doesn't look like it is up to the usual standards of other "crossings" pages I have seen. I am only tangentially connected to this project, as I'm a member of WikiProject U.S. Roads, so I don't know what the actual standards for this type of page is. I just know that, compared to other similar pages, this one doesn't look as good. Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 00:13, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You are right, normally there are more columns. See List of crossings of the Schuylkill River with more columns, but other rivers have only a few columns. See List of crossings of the River Thames or List of crossings of the Seine. If there a standard, I do not find it.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 20:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Bridge 463
Please tell me more about Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Bridge 463. It does not have a Wikipedia article here, but there are several references to it:


 * historicbridges.org/bridges/browser/?bridgebrowser=ohio/clevelandrr2/
 * https://bridgehunter.com/oh/cuyahoga/bh57567/
 * https://bridgehunter.com/oh/cuyahoga/bh67109/

Also, B&O - Cuyahoga River Bridge No # 464
 * https://bridgehunter.com/oh/cuyahoga/bh57589/

Information, please.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 20:05, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Korean War Veterans Memorial Bridge
Is anyone able to find the name of the architect of the Korean War Veterans Memorial Bridge please?Zigzig20s (talk) 04:58, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * www.aisc.org/nsba/prize-bridge-competition/prize-bridge-winners/gateway-boulevard-bridge-over-the-cumberland-river/ states that HNTB was both the engineer and the architect. Or maybe this reference roadsbridges.com. - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 04:40, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Tunnels tag?
The Talk:Tunnel article talk page and a few others, such as the Talk:Fehmarn Belt Fixed Link, have the tag, but most do not.

Some editors want that tag, and others do not. There are three alternatives:

1. The Bridges tag on all tunnels.

2. No tag for the structure of tunnels.

3. A new WikiProject Tunnels tag for tunnels.

This Talk:Bridges page is a relevant page to start a discussion. Please answer with:


 * Bridges - and why
 * None - and why
 * Tunnels and why

Answer here!--Dthomsen8 (talk) 15:29, 3 December 2017 (UTC) tag, but most do not.


 * Have you considered renaming the project WikiProject Bridges and Tunnels? Here are a few relevant items that include both:
 * Bridge and tunnel (disambiguation)
 * Bridges and tunnels across the Yangtze River
 * Category:Bridge-tunnels
 * List of bridges and tunnels in New York City
 * List of tunnels and bridges in Hong Kong (oops)
 * Template:Bridges and tunnels in Dubai
 * Template:NRHP bridges (in the box header)
 * --Elizabeth Linden Rahway (talk) 11:30, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, another choice! Editors, consider *Bridges and Tunnels as another answer for the discussion.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 13:40, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * And that (four) would be my choice. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Happy 2018! I made the bold move. Would someone with the requisite permissions please update this template? Elizabeth Linden Rahway (talk) 20:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a discussion on Village pump Technical help, but so far no actual help.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 20:16, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Fixed today. See top of this page, or any bridge talk page.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 22:48, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * as this change is pretty fresh there appear to be many tunnels that aren't categorised. Is there a way we could get a list of every article with the word "tunnel" in and go through them? ShakyIsles (talk) 03:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Goat Canyon Trestle
I am curious why Wikiproject Bridges withdrew the tag from the article about the Goat Canyon Trestle? Is the Trestle not a bridge?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:14, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The talk page now has "WikiProject Bridges and Tunnels |class=B |importance=Low" instead of "WP Bridges" so the class and importance are shown.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 13:16, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I see. Thanks for the clarification.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:48, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * There was recently on the program "Abandoned" a segment on this trestle, with some details.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 13:15, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Interstate and U.S. Highway tunnel categories
The categories Category:Bridges on the Interstate Highway System and Category:Bridges on the United States Numbered Highways exist. Could we start Category:Tunnels on the Interstate Highway System and Category:Tunnels on the United States Numbered Highways? Or could the pre-existing categories be expanded to include tunnels? Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 02:40, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate coordinates
At Cleddau Bridge there were coordinates locally defined that were being overprinted by those pulled from Wikidata by the infobox, rendering both illegible. While I've fixed the issue on this article it may be happening elsewhere as well and is something to look out for. Thryduulf (talk) 23:12, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Class-A Review of Goat Canyon Trestle
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Cau Vang
Cau Vang ("Golden Bridge") seems to be making headlines. Project members are invited to help expand this newly-created article. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Goat Canyon Trestle
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Discovery Bridge vs. Broad Street Bridge, Columbus
A new stub was created for Discovery Bridge (Columbus, Ohio) during WikiConference North America. Google Maps displays "Discovery Bridge", which seems to have replaced the Broad Street Bridge, but now another editor and I are wondering if Discovery Bridge (Columbus, Ohio) or Broad Street Bridge (Columbus, Ohio) is the more appropriate title, per common name. WikiProject Bridges and Tunnels participants may care to weigh in on the discussion on the article's talk page. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

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Swiss Bridge at Cardiff Castle
The bridges infobox doesn't appear to have a section for "demolished". This little bridge was so destroyed in the 1960s and "Closed" doesn't seem quite right. Any suggestions? KJP1 (talk) 11:15, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Seems like we need a section for demolished then. It would be relevant to a lot of bridges. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:26, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you're right. There must be hundreds, if not thousands, of demolished bridges. Templates aren't my forte but I think they might be yours. Do you know how to make an additional field? KJP1 (talk) 11:59, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm an expert on templates (day job). However I'm not allowed to here, you'll have to ask an admin. You might ask or  who've done most of the recent work on it. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:00, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * KJP1 and Andy Dingley, there is destroyed and collapsed. we could probably make demolished work as an alternative to destroyed for planned/sanctioned destruction. for now, I have changed "closed" to "destroyed". Frietjes (talk) 14:05, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I would tend to see "destroyed" as meaning "bombed" or similar, owing to hostile action. It's worth distinguishing demolition owing to falling from use or poor condition from that. I'd include destruction by a retreating army as "destroyed" too.
 * There's also the question of bridges that collapsed and were then demolished some years later (and both would be relevant). It's fairly common that one span of a bridge is somehow destroyed, but the rest of the bridge isn't "tidied away" for some years afterwards. Severn Railway Bridge would be one, as would almost anything across the Rhine in 1945. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:10, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Andy Dingley, you can use both destroyed and collapsed in the same box. my suggestion was to allow for demolished as an alternative to destroyed, which would still allow for the use of collapsed in the same box. Frietjes (talk) 14:39, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I would like to see all three, and the ability to use them in combination. A bridge which either collapses or is destroyed could well be demolished years later. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:40, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Frietjes - I tend to agree with Andy that 'destroyed' has hostile connotations that 'demolished' doesn't. If all three can't be done, demolished as an alternative to destroyed would be great. Many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 15:31, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Scope of Category:Toll bridges in England?
It has been a pretty significant news story that the tolls on the Severn bridges have finally been withdrawn. As a result, the cats have been removed from Severn Bridge etc. But should we do this? These are bridges which have long (50+ years) been toll-paying and form a key part of the history and politics of "toll bridges in the UK" (and so are interesting to general searches and navigation for such). Although I agree that they are no longer, should they remain in the categories anyway? Or do we need categorization for "former toll bridges"?
 * ?   Andy Dingley (talk) 15:31, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Good question. I vote for a "former" subcategory, which would also come under Category:Former toll bridges. --Wire723 (talk) 16:03, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * That's probably enough - do we really need to go down to the same geographical level? Andy Dingley (talk) 16:50, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:Former toll bridges in the United Kingdom and Category:Former toll bridges are looking good following your extensive work. --Wire723 (talk) 15:18, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

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How to treat the half-demolished Philadelphia, Wilmington and Baltimore Railroad Bridge No. 1?
Hi. In 2018, the city of Philadelphia demolished the truss and superstructure of Philadelphia, Wilmington and Baltimore Railroad Bridge No. 1, but left its pilings to support a new swing bridge to be built for a nearby bike-walk trail. Should information about this new bridge be placed in a new WP article, or in the existing PW&B#1 article? PRRfan (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

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Barbara Walker Crossing
I'm less familiar with standards for bridge articles, so I invite project members to take a look at the recently-created Barbara Walker Crossing entry. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:07, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation template/category
Does the project have a template and/or category for disambiguation pages? Road disambiguation has been used on some of the bridge disambiguation pages, but I think a more-specific template and/or category should be used. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 00:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

State Route 99 Tunnel listed at Requested moves
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Goodpasture Bridge, Oregon
The Goodpasture Bridge is Oregon may or may not have been destroyed by fire. Sharing with projects members who may be interested. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:55, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Gerald Desmond Bridge (2020-present) Has No Rating Yet
Gerald Desmond Bridge (2020-present) recently got split away from Gerald Desmond Bridge (1968-2020), and it has no ratings from this group. Can someone here please rate it, because I don't know how to mark it so it can be rated. Because of this split, Gerald Desmond Bridge (1968-2020) may need to be reassessed. Thank you. Interstate 11 (talk) 00:59, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

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The first railway suspension bridge, Niagara Falls Suspension Bridge, requests a Peer Review and Assessment
Hi, I would like to invite the project to review the Niagara Falls Suspension Bridge after my 13-fold expansion. I would also like the project to assess this bridge's importance to the project and if it qualifies as A-class before I bring it to FAC. I feel the bridge is an important bridge both locally and internationally; it was: Please take a look and leave your comments at Peer review/Niagara Falls Suspension Bridge/archive1. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jappalang (talk • contribs) 01:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * the first successful railway suspension bridge, disproving the general opinion then that suspension bridges could not handle trains,
 * the first bridge that started John A. Roebling's distinctive style,
 * part of the Underground Railroad,
 * made a symbol of inspiration for the United States in its rebuilding after the civil war.

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Brig o' Doon: what are "cranked" cobblestones?
In the entry for the bridge in Scotland Brig o' Doon, the cobblestones on the bridge are described thus: "The line of the cobbles in the roadway is cranked, due to the belief that this pattern would stop witches from crossing."

I have no idea what it means for cobbles to be cranked. Searching the Internet, I only find repetition of this same comment. I am posting this here in the hopes that some bridge aficionado knows about cranked cobbles and can update the entry. AristosM (talk) 17:31, 6 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I have no specific knowledge of cobbling technology (or anything else relevant), but I think that in ordinary language, "cranked" is just another way of saying "crooked", and it may well be more common in Scottish English. (I am reminded of the Lockerbie 747 terrorist attack, in which it emerged that film from the BBC news had to be subtitled for American viewers.) Imaginatorium (talk) 05:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I might accept that except for the word "pattern", which leads me to believe this might be a particular arrangement that deliberately creates a lack of lines or something like that (that's pure speculation from me). Regardless, I would like someone who does know to expand the sentence. AristosM (talk) 05:30, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Farnsworth Avenue Bridge
I just created an article for the Farnsworth Avenue Bridge in New Jersey. There are claims that it was built in 1831, making it possibly the oldest bridge over a railroad in the Western Hemisphere. Thriley (talk) 06:30, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Osman Gazi Bridge
Gooday. I am interested to learn of what deck wearing surface is used. On Google Streetview, I cannot see any expansion joints (across). The article is devoid of any details relating to the deck construction, which is stated off-Wiki to be of the Orthotropic deck type. I would imagine there may be sliding and/or stepped overlaps for the steel sections, and there should be reciprocal flexiblity on the wearing surface? Likewise expansion joints for the earthquake-resistance factor? Could it be that rubber-crumb is included into the aggregate to achieve a non-cracking surface? With overhead Mediterranean sun on the black surface and the cooling water, there would be a large thermal range. Or is it that the steel acts as a giant heat-sink and cools the surface acceptably into the water? I don't want to struggle trying to hypothesise and explore blind alleys on this, so if anyone could clarify I would be grateful. I'm not planning any changes to the main article, it's the Osman Gazi Bridge aspect that I'm researching. Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Dead wikilinks in lists
I'm a long-time editor, just became active again over the last couple months after a decade of dormancy, so I'm sure things have changed in my absence. That said, a list I rebuilt from practically the ground up, List of bridges in Florida, today had an editor come in and add dead wikilinks to bridges that probably will never be notable enough for their own pages. I always assume good faith, and I'm under no delusions that I own anything, but I'm more curious as to whether dead links are now encouraged to prompt others to create pages for them, or if I would be correct in reverting the changes to remove links to bridges that probably won't qualify for the notoriety criteria to have them? Eagles PhilliesFanInTampa 16:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Never mind. I'm going to revert, because it appears it's a n00b who was 48-hour muted for doing similar to other pages. I'd still like clarification for the future what y'all think, though. :-) Eagles PhilliesFanInTampa 11:41, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Suspension bridge listed at Requested moves
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Posey and Webster Street tubes listed at Requested moves
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List of Colorado Department of Highways bridges on the National Register of Historic Places listed at Requested moves
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Queen Elizabeth II Bridge, Newcastle upon Tyne listed at Requested moves
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High Level Bridge listed at Requested moves
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Pol Sangi listed at Requested moves
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Hayden Bridge (Springfield, Oregon) Article Review
Hi! Would someone be so kind at to review Hayden Bridge (Springfield, Oregon) for the wikiproject? This is the first bridge-related article I've created, so I would love some feedback on it and help to improve the article if you are able. Thank you, Tyrone Madera (talk) 02:45, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Union Bridge, Tweed listed at Requested moves
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Busandaegyo listed at Requested moves
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Laguna Garzón Bridge
This bridge, though important to a certain extent, actually is a mere stub. Hope that members of this WikiProject that have time can expand it substantially. Thanks!--RekishiEJ (talk) 06:57, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Input requested in content dispute at Suspension bridge
Should the death of a dog in the 1940 collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge be mentioned in the list of notable collapses at Suspension bridge?

Discussion at Talk:Suspension bridge. Meters (talk) 20:17, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Providence and Worcester railroad bridge listed at Requested moves
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BDI Bridge listed at Requested moves
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Kangaroo Point Bridge listed at Requested moves
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Requested move at Talk:BDI Bridge
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2022 Crimean Bridge explosion listed at Requested moves
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Project-independent quality assessments
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Proposed refactoring of geographic feature notability
We are discussing a proposal to refactor the guidelines for geographic feature notability. Please feel free to join in the discussion of this proposal. — hike395 (talk) 03:53, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

I-35W Mississippi River bridge is at GAR.
FYI, I-35W Mississippi River bridge was sent to GAR. Not sure why this project was not notified. Dave (talk) 21:46, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Content assessment
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Crimean Bridge listed at Requested moves
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Owensboro Bridge
Owensboro Bridge needs a bit of TLC. Much of the content is outdated, or sourced by what appears to be user-generated content. I'll chip away at it, other are welcome. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:21, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Review
Cet article est très dense en informations disponible malgré que l'introduction soit vraiment courte, le statut est très bien vu car on a 20+ membres qui travaillent sur cette page pour pouvoir la raffiner. La seul chose qui pourrait être améliorer est l'introduction en la rendant un peux plus dense. NotWeace~ NotWeace (talk) 07:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Translation into English for the English WP: "This article is very dense in available information despite the fact that the introduction is really short, the status is very well seen because we have 20+ members working on this page to be able to refine it. The only thing that could be improved is the introduction by making it a little denser. NotWeace" Martin of Sheffield (talk) 08:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Railway tunnels in Victoria, Australia listed at Requested moves
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